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how is AOL like your Cable Company???!!!

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Foxsrus1 - 28 Jan 2005 02:29 GMT
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AOL to Drop Direct Usenet Access
BizReport - 6 hours ago
... AOL users still would be able to access Usenet groups from other providers,
including Google Inc., which packages the newsgroups for free as "Google
Groups.". ...
AOL to Drop Direct Usenet Access
KFMB, CA - 7 hours ago
... AOL users still would be able to access Usenet groups from other providers,
including Google Inc., which packages the newsgroups for free as "Google
Groups.". ...
AOL to drop direct Usenet access
Globetechnology.com, Canada - 9 hours ago
... AOL users still would be able to access Usenet groups from other providers,
including Google Inc., which packages the newsgroups for free as "Google
Groups.". ...
AOL to Drop Direct Usenet Access
Washington Post, DC - 13 hours ago
... AOL users still would be able to access Usenet groups from other providers,
including Google Inc., which packages the newsgroups for free as "Google
Groups.". ...
India Business, AOL to Drop Direct Usenet Access
Keralanext, India - 15 hours ago
Dropping Usenet will let AOL focus more on more popular community features such
as message boards, chat rooms and online journals, said AOL spokeswoman Jay ...

AOL to Drop Direct Usenet Access
The Porterville Recorder, CA - 15 hours ago
... AOL users still would be able to access Usenet groups from other providers,
including Google Inc., which packages the newsgroups for free as "Google
Groups.". ...
AOL to Drop Direct Usenet Access
Durant Daily Democrat, OK - 15 hours ago
... AOL users still would be able to access Usenet groups from other providers,
including Google Inc., which packages the newsgroups for free as "Google
Groups.". ...
AOL shutting down newsgroups
ZDNetIndia, India - 19 hours ago
... Usenet newsgroups were once a primary destination for Internet users to
chat about interests ... early days of the Internet before the Web took off,
AOL and other ...
AOL to Drop Direct Usenet Access
San Jose Mercury News (subscription), CA - 21 hours ago
... AOL users still would be able to access Usenet groups from other providers,
including Google Inc., which packages the newsgroups for free as "Google
Groups.". ...
AOL to Drop Direct Usenet Access
Rapid City Journal, SD - 22 hours ago
... AOL users still would be able to access Usenet groups from other providers,
including Google Inc., which packages the newsgroups for free as "Google
Groups.". ...

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Cheryl - 28 Jan 2005 03:42 GMT
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Ok, see all that repeating is just lame.  I have a question for
AOLers (or someone who knows): Does AOL give you their SMTP gateway
address? Because even if you can access a newsreader and *get* news
feed from other sources, it doesn't help if you can't *send*. Even
3rd party providers require (at least mine do!) that you have your
own SMTP gateway to send through.

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Cheryl

PawsForThought - 28 Jan 2005 17:37 GMT
>From: Cheryl jlhshadow@nospamhotmail.com

> I have a question for
>AOLers (or someone who knows): Does AOL give you their SMTP gateway
>address? Because even if you can access a newsreader and *get* news
>feed from other sources, it doesn't help if you can't *send*. Even
>3rd party providers require (at least mine do!) that you have your
>own SMTP gateway to send through.

I really know nothing about newsreaders.  I did try one with my AOL and
couldn't get it to work.  I didn't know I had to have a gateway address though.
I'm trying Google Groups but really don't like it much.  AOHell sucks :(

Lauren
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Mary - 28 Jan 2005 17:49 GMT
"PawsForThought" <darnit7@aol.comnolitter> wrote > I really know nothing
about newsreaders.  I did try one with my AOL and
> couldn't get it to work.  I didn't know I had to have a gateway address though.
>  I'm trying Google Groups but really don't like it much.  AOHell sucks :(

Lauren, are you in an area offering cable broadband? Like Time Warner?
I have had it since they introduced it here three years ago, and I think
you'
would like it.
PawsForThought - 30 Jan 2005 00:43 GMT
>From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com

>Lauren, are you in an area offering cable broadband? Like Time Warner?
>I have had it since they introduced it here three years ago, and I think
>you'
>would like it.

I'm not sure if we have Time Warner, but we do have SBC Yahoo DSL.  We have it
at work and I do love it.  Been thinking about getting it for home now that I
don't really need AOL anymore.  Do you mind if I ask how much do you pay?
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Mary - 30 Jan 2005 01:11 GMT
> >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> at work and I do love it.  Been thinking about getting it for home now that I
> don't really need AOL anymore.  Do you mind if I ask how much do you pay?

Not at all! Our cable TV service is $45 per month--high, I think, since we
get no movie channels--and our broadband Internet (Time Warner Roadrunner)
is about another $45, including taxes etc. So the total bill is $90 per
month. This is for two computers on a wireless network. (Meaning that I had
it first, then they hooked my husband up via wireless network connection.)
It was $39.95 (aka $40, lol!) three years ago when I got it. Then there was
a special for hooking up my husband, and somehow now it is $45 for both of
us. THEN the cable company came out with digital telephone--and we signed
up. That service is another $40 per month all taxes included--but here's the
great thing: we get FREE long distance 24 hours, 7 days, to the US and
Canada. Even intra-state is free. So we have NO long distance phone bill.

Right now Time Warner is offering 6 months for $29.95 per month. The upshot:
I was paying $20.00 per month for my ISP plus about $30 for the telephone
line on dial-up. So when I switched to cable I actually saved money for a
connection that is ten times faster. Instant image downloads, etc. I love
it. (No, I don't work for them!)
PawsForThought - 31 Jan 2005 12:49 GMT
>From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com

>Not at all! Our cable TV service is $45 per month--high, I think, since we
>get no movie channels--and our broadband Internet (Time Warner Roadrunner)
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>a special for hooking up my husband, and somehow now it is $45 for both of
>us.

We have satellite tv and pay about $45 a month for that.  No movie channels but
I had to take the upgraded package so I could get Soapnet (I'm totally addicted
to All My Children :)

>THEN the cable company came out with digital telephone--and we signed
>up. That service is another $40 per month all taxes included--but here's the
>great thing: we get FREE long distance 24 hours, 7 days, to the US and
>Canada. Even intra-state is free. So we have NO long distance phone bill.

I haven't heard of digital telephone.  Wow, that's great you get free long
distance.

>Right now Time Warner is offering 6 months for $29.95 per month. The upshot:
>I was paying $20.00 per month for my ISP plus about $30 for the telephone
>line on dial-up. So when I switched to cable I actually saved money for a
>connection that is ten times faster. Instant image downloads, etc. I love
>it. (No, I don't work for them!)

I'm not sure if they offer cable here, or just the DSL.  We have the dsl at
work and I do love it.  If I need to download a large file, I download it at
work, then burn it to a cd to take home.  But I am going to look into a faster
connection at home and possibly dump the aol.  Thanks, Mary!
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Mary - 31 Jan 2005 18:06 GMT
> >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com

> We have satellite tv and pay about $45 a month for that.  No movie channels but
> I had to take the upgraded package so I could get Soapnet (I'm totally addicted
> to All My Children :)

Ahh! For years I was a Guiding Light and Young and the Restless person ...
I still peek at them. Used to be that AMC people were also General Hospital
people. :)

> >THEN the cable company came out with digital telephone--and we signed
> >up. That service is another $40 per month all taxes included--but here's the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I haven't heard of digital telephone.  Wow, that's great you get free long
> distance.

It was so new we must have been in the first batch to get it. It is very
clear
and the free LD helps with the budget. The only thing is: when the cable is
out your phone is out. So I kept an MCI line. But anyone with a cell
phone would be fine. (I have them but forget to charge them!)

> I'm not sure if they offer cable here, or just the DSL.  We have the dsl at
> work and I do love it.  If I need to download a large file, I download it at
> work, then burn it to a cd to take home.  But I am going to look into a faster
> connection at home and possibly dump the aol.  Thanks, Mary!

Any time. Since you use satellite TV, DSL is probably the best for you.
I have never used it but understand it is just as fast as cable.
Cathy Friedmann - 30 Jan 2005 01:31 GMT
> >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> at work and I do love it.  Been thinking about getting it for home now that I
> don't really need AOL anymore.  Do you mind if I ask how much do you pay?

My answer is similar to Mary's.  I signed up for broadband cable as soon as
it became available here - in my case, Adelphia, & the cost is $40/month.
IMO, well worth it.  For ex., can actually peruse the binaries ngs easily,
without any loss of patience!  I don't know if there'd be a noticeable
difference in connection speed between cable & DSL.

Cathy
PawsForThought - 31 Jan 2005 12:51 GMT
>From: "Cathy Friedmann" clfr@adelphia.net

>My answer is similar to Mary's.  I signed up for broadband cable as soon as
>it became available here - in my case, Adelphia, & the cost is $40/month.
>IMO, well worth it.  For ex., can actually peruse the binaries ngs easily,
>without any loss of patience!  I don't know if there'd be a noticeable
>difference in connection speed between cable & DSL.

Thanks, Cathy.  I am going to see if we can get cable here, but I think it
might just be dsl.  I think I've heard that cable might be a bit faster than
dsl.  It sure would be nice getting away from dial up.

Lauren
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Steve Crane - 31 Jan 2005 13:15 GMT
The other alternative is satellite. It costs $60 a month, but you have
to pay up front to buy the satellite receiver ($500). Speed is very
good for most web sites. It suffers when you are using a secure
website. I notice this when I do my online bill paying through my bank.
This has something to do with waht is called satellite latency - the
microsecond delay to send a signal up to the satellite and then back
down again - that seems to annoy secure sites. Where I live there is no
other high speed option. No cable, no DSL etc. For most web sites and
for email it is every bit as fast as the T3 lines into the corporate
office. It's an alternative when there are no other services available.
If they string cable down here one of these days I would probably go
back to cable - no interference with heavy weather. We lose connection
in very heavy rain, snow and very high winds. Ice storms mean you have
to go out an clean off the satellite dish to get reception back.
Cathy Friedmann - 31 Jan 2005 21:17 GMT
> >From: "Cathy Friedmann" clfr@adelphia.net
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Lauren

One away from dial-up, you'll never go back again.

Cathy
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> See my cats:  http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
> Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
> http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
> Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
jamie - 30 Jan 2005 21:53 GMT
> Ok, see all that repeating is just lame.  I have a question for
> AOLers (or someone who knows): Does AOL give you their SMTP gateway
> address? Because even if you can access a newsreader and *get* news
> feed from other sources, it doesn't help if you can't *send*. Even
> 3rd party providers require (at least mine do!) that you have your
> own SMTP gateway to send through.

SMTP is only used for email replies directly to a user.  Posting
messages in a newsgroup uses the NNTP server to which you are
connecting with your newsreader.

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 jamie  (jamiemck@newsguy.com)

         "There's a seeker born every minute."

Cheryl - 31 Jan 2005 00:56 GMT
> SMTP is only used for email replies directly to a user.  Posting
> messages in a newsgroup uses the NNTP server to which you are
> connecting with your newsreader.

Well, yes, but I seemed to remember using OE years ago and it still
required having all of the accounts filled in with valid server
addresses before it would work. Email included. I just removed my
SMTP address from Xnews and it is sending news articles fine, so I
was incorrect. Thanks. It could be easier for AOL users to use a news
reader with a separate news provider than I had thought.

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Cheryl


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