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trueblue - 26 Jan 2005 22:54 GMT
just recently confirmed that my 19 year old cat is deaf and blind.
clearly, she doesn't hear me when i clap my hands over her head (not
*that* close) and her pupils are fixed and hugely dilated.  

she's eating and using the box as usual, but i feel terrible for her.
has anyone here had a similar experience and what are your thoughts on
the cat's comfort in this condition?  we have no intention of putting
her down, but i hate to think that she's *unhappy* in any way.

thanks in advance,

parismom
bethmeryle@yahoo.com - 27 Jan 2005 02:13 GMT
> just recently confirmed that my 19 year old cat is deaf and blind.
> clearly, she doesn't hear me when i clap my hands over her head (not
> *that* close) and her pupils are fixed and hugely dilated.
>
> she's eating and using the box as usual, but i feel terrible for her.

> has anyone here had a similar experience and what are your thoughts on
> the cat's comfort in this condition?  we have no intention of putting
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> parismom

Hugs to you and kitty.  My almost 19 year old cat has also recently
gone deaf, but not blind.  I feel bad for him, but he seems to be doing
ok.  It sounds like your cat knows her way around (box, food).  Just
make sure she can find her way to her comfort spots, and make time for
extra brushing (if she likes that), cuddle time, etc.  

Take care
Beth
Rene S. - 27 Jan 2005 14:21 GMT
My thought would be to not move items around the house (furniture, etc)
so she doesn't get confused or walk into them unexpectedly.

Rene
zuzu22@webtv.net - 27 Jan 2005 14:43 GMT
>just recently confirmed that my 19 year
>old cat is deaf and blind. clearly, she
>doesn't hear me when i clap my hands
>over her head (not *that* close) and her
>pupils are fixed and hugely dilated.

Was this confirmed by you or a vet? If you haven't brought your cat to a
vet do so immediately and have her blood pressure checked. If you took
her to a vet you need to confirm whether or not the blood pressure was
checked. Unfortunately a lot of vets don't have BP monitors and if yours
doesn't you'll  have to search your area for one that does so you can
get it checked ASAP. Untreated high blood pressure will cause your cats
retinas to detach which could explain the blindness and is common in
older cats. Norvasc is the drug of choice for getting high blood
pressure under control. Left untreated it will kill your cat. If the
blindness *just* happened and is caused by high blood pressure, getting
the cat on meds right away will increase the chances that the cats
retinas will reattach and the cat will regain its vision.

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parismom - 27 Jan 2005 20:00 GMT
dear zuzu and all the rest of you guys,

i've made an appointment with a vet that has a blood pressure monitor
for critter and we're going tomorrow early AM. i'll get back and let you
know what's going on.

thanks for all of your insight!

abby (i'm parismom and trueblue - depending on which computer i'm using)

> >just recently confirmed that my 19 year
> >old cat is deaf and blind. clearly, she
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> - W.H. Murray
kitkat - 28 Jan 2005 04:27 GMT
Hey Abby,
I emailed you directly before I got my new newsreader set up. Now I can
post to the group again without the hassle of AOL.

ANyway, just in case you didn't get my email. I also have a cat that is
both blind and deaf. We inherited him this way...and we didn't know
about his "condition" before we saved him. I think we would have taken
him anyway. ;) I digress...

I, too, worry that Jasper might not be happy. I often wonder what it
might be like if my whole world were dark and silent...with just a
shadow once in a while or depending on vibrations for sound.

Jasper is an old fella...we aren't even sure how old but we suspect
around 12. He is the sweetest thing though and all he wants is to be pet
and loved. So, we are much obliged...  :-)

He does bump into stuff from time to time...I don't think it can be
avoided completely. But he does have a pretty good internal map of our
home and gets around quite well. Sometimes we think he is faking his
blindness and deafness for sympathy. ;)   He does seem to be a
relatively happy guy. He is in a nice warm house, with a mommy and daddy
who love him and a sister, luna, who could do without him but tolerates
him nonetheless. He gets fed and pet and has a nice clean place to poop
and pee. I do think things could be a lot worse. I can't imagine putting
him down because he cant see or hear, but as I said...I worry about him
just the same.

just wanted you to know you are not alone,
pam
parismom - 28 Jan 2005 15:40 GMT
thanks for the kind words, pam.  your kitty is very lucky to have you
all.

abby

> Hey Abby,
> I emailed you directly before I got my new newsreader set up. Now I can
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> just wanted you to know you are not alone,
> pam
zuzu22@webtv.net - 28 Jan 2005 05:09 GMT
>i've made an appointment with a vet that
>has a blood pressure monitor for critter
>and we're going tomorrow early AM. i'll
>get back and let you know what's going
>on.

Oh good. If it turns out to be high blood pressure your cat may also
have concurrent kidney issues. I'm sure the vet will recommend a full
blood workup and at 19 this is definitely a good idea. If there are
kidney issues as well, keep in mind that renal failure is a manageable
disease and there are a lot of excellent resources on the 'net that you
will find extremely helpful. My favorite is http://www.felinecrf.org

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parismom - 28 Jan 2005 15:39 GMT
to all:

had ginger checked out this morning by the vet that had a kitty cuff for
BP.  perfectly normal.  except for a heart murmur, my sweet cat is in
perfect health :-).  her pupils *do* react to bright light, so the doc
thinks she has cataracts, which is very reasonable for a 19 year old
cat.  if ginger were six years old, i might have considered cataract
surgery, but she's way to old to go under anesthesia, imo and the vet's,
as well.

she sent me home with a bag of science diet AD (don't know what the A is
for) to try to get her a little higher in weight than her usual 6.6
pounds.

otherwise, i'm glad i went, thanks for all of the concern and advice and
we'll go on from here.

sometime, i'll tell you about our newest cat, buffy :-)

abby

> >i've made an appointment with a vet that
> >has a blood pressure monitor for critter
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> - W.H. Murray
Ivor Jones - 28 Jan 2005 16:53 GMT
> to all:
>
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>
> abby

Hey, that's great news :-)  You didn't comment on her hearing so I take it
she's definitely deaf..? Still, she's not doing too badly for her age, so
just take good care of her and give her plenty of food, warmth and most
important of all, love.

Purrs to your kitty :-)

Ivor
Mary - 28 Jan 2005 17:37 GMT
> to all:
>
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> otherwise, i'm glad i went, thanks for all of the concern and advice and
> we'll go on from here.

19 is really old. That is when my cat really changed, and became
kind of like a big baby. I'm sorry your Ginger has to go through
hearing and sight loss, but I am sure glad she has you.

> sometime, i'll tell you about our newest cat, buffy :-)

Please do!
Ivor Jones - 28 Jan 2005 19:10 GMT
>> to all:
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> kind of like a big baby. I'm sorry your Ginger has to go through
> hearing and sight loss, but I am sure glad she has you.

19 is only late middle age for some cats..! My friend has a beautiful
calico/white girl who is 18. She is a little shaky on her paws but can get
about perfectly well, although she has trouble jumping up on the window
sill ;-)  The oldest cat I've known personally was Sammy, who was a
permanent resident at the rescue shelter where I volunteer. He died last
year at 22 :-(

The oldest cat I've heard of is Whiskey, who was 33 in March last year:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/animals/newsid_3520000/3520218.stm

Ivor
jacquie0 - 28 Jan 2005 22:15 GMT
>>>to all:
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> Ivor

The AD in the cat food stands for Adult Diet.
Mary - 28 Jan 2005 23:20 GMT
> >>>to all:
> >>>
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> >
> The AD in the cat food stands for Adult Diet.

And I WISH 19 were "middle age" for more cats. For most it is
old age.
Karen Chuplis - 29 Jan 2005 03:04 GMT
>>>> to all:
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>>
> The AD in the cat food stands for Adult Diet.

I don't think so. a/d is a high calorie food for cats that have experienced
weight loss (anorexia).  
jacquie0 - 29 Jan 2005 05:05 GMT
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>>>>>
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> I don't think so. a/d is a high calorie food for cats that have experienced
> weight loss (anorexia).  

I'll let you tell that I work for that, and then see he has to say to
you about what a/d stands for.
Mary - 29 Jan 2005 05:28 GMT
> >>The AD in the cat food stands for Adult Diet.
> >
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> I'll let you tell that I work for that, and then see he has to say to
> you about what a/d stands for.

Wanna try that again? :)
jacquie0 - 29 Jan 2005 16:35 GMT
>>>>The AD in the cat food stands for Adult Diet.
>>>
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>
> Wanna try that again? :)

Oooooops. LOL I'll let you tell that to the vet that I work for, and
then see what he has to say.
Karen Chuplis - 29 Jan 2005 19:14 GMT
>>>>> The AD in the cat food stands for Adult Diet.
>>>>
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> Oooooops. LOL I'll let you tell that to the vet that I work for, and
> then see what he has to say.

Well, fine, but here is the home site:

http://www.hillspet.com/zSkin_2/products/pd_product_list.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Epr
d_id=845524441760567&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302024497&bmUID=1107026485
046

And the description is "Canine/Feline a/d® - Canned     Recovery
(debilitation, cachexia, anorexia)"
Ivor Jones - 29 Jan 2005 20:11 GMT
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> Well, fine, but here is the home site:
>
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> And the description is "Canine/Feline a/d? - Canned     Recovery
> (debilitation, cachexia, anorexia)"

That link was unusable here, may I suggest you use http://tinyurl.com 
which reduced the above to http://tinyurl.com/4alp9

Far better IMHO ;-)

Ivor
Meghan Noecker - 29 Jan 2005 01:19 GMT
>she sent me home with a bag of science diet AD (don't know what the A is
>for) to try to get her a little higher in weight than her usual 6.6
>pounds.

You might try Royal Canin's senior food. Maynard loves it. It is a
little softer than normal kibble, and it has added glucosamineand
vitamins to help with older cats. He moves better and seems to have
more energy, and he loves the stuff. Maynard is 18 1/2.

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Larry - 30 Jan 2005 01:55 GMT
I had a blind and deaf kitty too, her name was Stacy.  She got along well
with the disabilities.  Only problem is that when Stacy would bump into one
of my other kitties and start hissing and swatting.  She was so sweet and
cuddly.

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