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pushing liquids/struvite crystals

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Jean B. - 25 Jan 2005 23:48 GMT
As you know, Mingy was just hospitalized because he had a lot of
struvite crystals.  Now that he is home, I am trying to get him to
drink, but most of my usual tactics and even the diluted tuna
water are failing.  He did just lick the liquid off of can of
Science Diet Savory Cuts (chicken), but that's not a lot.  I am
perfectly willing to go out and get lots of cans of such foods and
let him do that, if that is all he is interested in right now, but
I am also wondering about no-salt chicken broth, no-salt beef
broth, and Lactaid, which he used to like.  IIRC, the latter might
be high in magnesium and hence may not be a good idea.  I guess I
need to see whether a nutritional breakdown of the broths tells me
anything.  I will also pose that question to you experts....
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Phil P. - 27 Jan 2005 03:02 GMT
> As you know, Mingy was just hospitalized because he had a lot of
> struvite crystals.  Now that he is home, I am trying to get him to
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> need to see whether a nutritional breakdown of the broths tells me
> anything.  I will also pose that question to you experts....

Jean,

Go to the USDA Nutrient Data Laboratory

http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/srch/search.htm

You can search the nutrient composition of almost any food.

If you type in chicken bullion you'll get: "Soup, chicken broth cubes,
dehydrated, prepared with water" and the nutrient composition.

For example, chicken bullion cubes prepared with 6 fl oz contains 2 mg
Magnesium/9 kcal.

s/d contains 13 mg magnesium/100 kcals - so the magnesium content of the
bullion cubes is too high - although you could mix the cube in a pint of
water to get  .125 mg/oz or better still, a quart to get 0.0625 mg/oz. At
that dilution, he couldn't drink enough to take in enough magnesium to
cause a problem.

Magnesium isn't really the problem - its the urine pH.  At urine pH less
than 6.1, struvite doesn't form regardless of the magnesium content of the
food.  The tendency of struvite to form is determined by urine pH.  The
magnesium content of the diet only becomes important when urine pH is
greater than 6.1.  s/d produces an acidic urine that dissolves struvite.
You really need to get him on a struvite-dissolving diet.

Phil.
Jean B. - 27 Jan 2005 15:31 GMT
> Jean,
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> Phil.

I just boiled chicken in water--no additives.  Oh, I agree with
you.  Need to get the s/d not the c/d for one thing.  And canned.
But then MINGY has to eat it, or it does no good!!!!  
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