Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / January 2005
bah! oscar's losing weight ... a bit *too* fast
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Monique Y. Mudama - 24 Jan 2005 17:01 GMT I took Oscar to the vet for her second steroid shot (she had an "indolent ulcer" on her lower lip). The lip is doing great, but when the vet weighed Oscar, she was eight and a half pounds. That would probably be great, except that she was almost 10 pounds in early December, when I switched her to Wellness canned food from Nutro dry. As the vet said, "Sometimes these wet food diets work a little *too* well."
The vet agreed with me that Oscar's body is about ideal; she looks good, but really shouldn't lose any more weight. So I'm bumping her from 1/3 can twice a day to 1/2 can x 2, so that she has opportunity to eat more if she'd like. Sure, it wastes some food, but if if it keeps her on track ... Oh, and I've definitely been supplementing her meals with treats, which I'll continue to do.
I'm going to look into a pediatric scale. I can weigh Oscar at the vet's for free, but the trip is traumatic. If I can't afford a scale, the vet suggested bringing her in once a month for a weighing. Oscar has a healthy appetite, so if she keeps losing, the vet would like to do some bloodwork "just in case." I strongly suspect, though, that this is simply a reaction to her change in diet. She's not getting as much filler crap as she was.
Anyone have any recommendations for scales? Is it okay to just look for the cheapest one available, or are there quality/brand issues?
As the vet said, "We'd love it if our overweight cats would lose weight this fast, but it always seems to be the ones who don't need to!"
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Meghan Noecker - 25 Jan 2005 11:44 GMT >I'm going to look into a pediatric scale. Where would you find one of these? I have been wanting a scale that covers the 5-10lb range, and I haven't been able to find one.
I would really like to have better weights on Maynard since he can go up and down in a hurry.
On a side note, I had a very interesting coincidence yesterday. after all the discussions about weight, feeding, and wanting to have an elderly cat a little on the heavier side; my sister decided to weigh my cats (she ought to weigh hers, they are both gaining).
Anyway, she weighed Maynard and announced that he is 7 1/2 pounds. I was quite shocked as I was sure he was in the 8 to 8 1/2 pound range, and is looking pretty darn good right now. No waspy waist, not so boney. And he moves well and even trots sometimes. He hasn't begged to be lifted onto our laps. He doesn't jump much, but he is hauling himself up okay.
And then, to make it worse, my sister launched into a lecture about how skinny and frail Maynard is right now. And how he weighs the same as when Tiget had to be put down. And she is so worried about him, and I need to be more worried about Maynard. Blah blah blah.
I was really upset. I am the one who warned *her* when Tiger was losing weight. She insisted he was just losing his winter coat. He commented that he was walking slowing, taking the stairs slower, and looked to be in pain. She denied it for 4 months before suddenly trying to give him glucosamine in extra cat food. But his appetite was bad. So, after another 2 months, she took him to the vet, and found out it was too late tobring him back to health. His body was shutting down, and his intensines were failing.
So, to have her lecture me like I was failing my cat really bothered me. After she left, I sat there seething, ad then wondered if I really was in denial. Could I not be seeing him correctly. How on earth could he weigh only 7 1/2 pounds. That was how much he weighed two years ago when he lost weight because of the abcess.
So, I weighed him myself. I weighed us both twice and me 3 times as my weight changed. I got 8 - 8 1/2 lbs. Wanting to make sure I wasn't in denial, I doublechecked with a calculator. 8 - 8 1/2 pounds. My sister must have screwed up her math, and bumped the scale, or not double checked the weights since it can change with multiple readings.
I felt much better, knowing that my "feel" of Maynard's weight was accurate. But still irritated with my sister. So, when she came back down with the dog, I had her re-weigh Maynard. She got looked puzzled and admitted to a weight of 8 1/2 pounds. So, at least she knows the weight is good. I still don't see how she say that he is so skinny and frail. He weighs the same as Kira and nobody complains about her being light.
Anyway, I thought that was interesting. My whole take on the situation was challenged right after the discussion here. It was a wakeup call, and a good confirmation as well.
But I would still like to have a scale that can be mmuch more precise than weighing myself with and without the cat. That scale only does weights in half pound increments, and the innacuracy is multiplied by two since we have two different weights involved. It would be so much eaiser to have something that could weigh him in ounces or tenths of a pound.
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zuzu22@webtv.net - 25 Jan 2005 14:22 GMT >I have been wanting a scale that covers >the 5-10 pound range I work with many people developing weight loss programs for their cats. Most of them can't afford the expensive scales, but there are alternatives. For under $100 you can get a digital baby scale here: http://www.oldwillknott.com/cgi-bin/htmlos.cgi/1617.2.6120659295639075760/OldWill2 Also check Ebay for "digital baby scale" as they have quite a selection. One of my clients got one similar to the one at the link for about $75 including shipping. Another alternative for $40 that several of my clients have used is the Escali digital postal scale which can be found here: http://www.toplinedigitalscales.com/catalog.php?action=124&item_id=166
With this scale you'll have to get a box your cat fits in, put it on the scale first and zero it out, then put the cat in the box.
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Meghan Noecker - 28 Jan 2005 02:03 GMT >>I have been wanting a scale that covers >>the 5-10 pound range [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >With this scale you'll have to get a box your cat fits in, put it on the >scale first and zero it out, then put the cat in the box. Thanks! I will check these out. I keep joking that I would like to take him to work and weigh him there.
Sometimes, I get a feeling this his weight is a little down, and it would just be nice to track his daily weight for awhile and then recheck it as needed. So, I can really tell if something is wrong.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 28 Jan 2005 02:14 GMT > Thanks! I will check these out. I keep joking that I would like to take him > to work and weigh him there. > > Sometimes, I get a feeling this his weight is a little down, and it would > just be nice to track his daily weight for awhile and then recheck it as > needed. So, I can really tell if something is wrong. I'd be careful about reading too much into a daily fluctuation. Go ahead and weigh him that often, but don't worry if he's off for a single day.
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Meghan Noecker - 28 Jan 2005 09:36 GMT >> Thanks! I will check these out. I keep joking that I would like to take him >> to work and weigh him there. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I'd be careful about reading too much into a daily fluctuation. Go ahead and >weigh him that often, but don't worry if he's off for a single day. That's what I figure. If I weigh him every day for 2-3 weeks, then I would know what the normal fluctuations are. It would be a baseline, and then I would only need to check every week or so, to make sure nothing is changing without my noticing.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 28 Jan 2005 17:04 GMT >>I'd be careful about reading too much into a daily fluctuation. Go ahead >>and weigh him that often, but don't worry if he's off for a single day. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > would only need to check every week or so, to make sure nothing is changing > without my noticing. *nod* Sounds good to me.
 Signature monique, roommate of Oscar the (female) grouch ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Eros was adopted! Eros has a home now! *cheer!*
Monique Y. Mudama - 25 Jan 2005 17:23 GMT >>I'm going to look into a pediatric scale. > > Where would you find one of these? I have been wanting a scale that covers > the 5-10lb range, and I haven't been able to find one. I seemed to find the best results googling for "veterinary scale." I went to the Tanita site from there (I recognized the brand name). Pet scales are part of their professional line, so I called the professional customer service number and they referred me to a store in Colorado. I am expecting a call from the store to see what they can do for me. I'm looking at something like Tanita's 1584 Portable Feline/Puppy Scale
http://www.tanita.com/VeterinaryScales.shtml
The Tanita rep quoted $175 for it. It measures in 1oz increments. The 585 measures in half-ounce increments, but it's a lot more expensive.
[snip rant about sister]
Honestly, I'm not sure why you're so upset at your sister. She obviously now knows that cat weight fluctuations can have serious implications, and she's concerned for your cat. There must be some sister thing going on here that I don't understand.
 Signature monique, roommate of Oscar the (female) grouch ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Eros was adopted! Eros has a home now! *cheer!*
Meghan Noecker - 28 Jan 2005 02:10 GMT >Honestly, I'm not sure why you're so upset at your sister. She obviously now >knows that cat weight fluctuations can have serious implications, and she's >concerned for your cat. There must be some sister thing going on here that I >don't understand. Mainly because she completely blew me off when I warned her (and thus her cat got worse and died), but then she lectures me when there is *nothing* wrong with my cat. He is at his highest weight in over 2 years, yet she is lecturing that he is at the lowest. The rant was based on her incorrect math, yet she is accusing me of ignoring my cat's health.
Would you want somebody falsely accusing you of doing something? And to make it worse, *they* are the one who is guilty of that thing but have never admitted it?
It woudl be like a cat breeder condemning you for breeding cats when you actually discourage others not to breed. Yet they breed. That is what it felt like to me. Hypocritical as well as mistaken.
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Phil P. - 25 Jan 2005 17:03 GMT > I'm going to look into a pediatric scale. I can weigh Oscar at the vet's for > free, but the trip is traumatic. If I can't afford a scale, the vet suggested > bringing her in once a month for a weighing. I have a Tanita 1583 Pediatric scale and highly recommend this scale. 0-20 lbs in 1/2 ounce graduations and an auto weight lock-in that's exceptionally handy for cats that don't stay on the scale. The 1583 also has zero/tare functions for weighing your cat in a carrier. The infant tray is removable so just toss a treat on the base and the cat jumps on and weights herself!
http://www.maxshouse.com/tanita_baby.htm (no I don't get a commission)
Here's a easy way to weigh your cat:
http://www.maxshouse.com/weighing_a_cat_made_easy.htm
Phil.
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