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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / January 2005Cat Needs To Stay Out of the Window
I have a cat that stubbornly refuses to stay out of the living room window. I DO NOT want her in there, I do NOT care how much she likes seeing the outdoors. The blinds on that window are fragile, and you have to have them just so or else everyone walking by can see all in there. Just when I get the blinds set up to do right, she (while we're gone) hops up there and messes it up. She knows it's wrong, she hops down the MINUTE we get home or enter the living room. I have put empty aluminum cans up there, a trick which did work with other spots which were off-limits (kitchen table & computer monitor for one), but that trick just isn't working in this case. If someone has an idea which will work, then by all means, share. Otherwise, I am THIS close to going out tomorrow and putting some mouse traps up there and really make it painful for her. Tips? LRH > I have a cat that stubbornly refuses to stay out of the living room window. > I DO NOT want her in there, I do NOT care how much she likes seeing the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Tips? Hello, a.shole. Still trolling, are we? > I have a cat that stubbornly refuses to stay out of the living room window. > I DO NOT want her in there, I do NOT care how much she likes seeing the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > LRH To be a really effective troll you have to change your ID now and again. > > I have a cat that stubbornly refuses to stay out of the living room window. > > I DO NOT want her in there, I do NOT care how much she likes seeing the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > > To be a really effective troll you have to change your ID now and again. heh .. >>>I have a cat that stubbornly refuses to stay out of the living room > [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > > heh .. And to combat trolls, don't quote their entire post! >I have a cat that stubbornly refuses to stay out of the living room window. >I DO NOT want her in there, I do NOT care how much she likes seeing the >outdoors. The blinds on that window are fragile, and you have to have them >just so or else everyone walking by can see all in there. <snip> Are you the same person who had the stuck-up kitten that you kept calling a little snot and such? Sorry bud, you can't keep a cat out of the window. It's one of their big pleasures in life. Get new blinds. Sounds like they suck if they can't stand up to a cat sitting in the window. Offer from last time still stands. Give me the cat and I'll find her a good forever home that appreciates cat behavior.  Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net "Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG I CAN keep a cat out of the window. Don't challenge me. All I have to do is put mouse-traps or even RAT traps there and we'll see who wins. Or I could tie her to a leash. But I don't want to do it that way, I've tried aluminum cans which worked for other off-limit spots but not the window. So before I get too heavy-handed--which I WILL DO if I have to--I'm trying to find some more humane ways to do it. LRH >>I have a cat that stubbornly refuses to stay out of the living room >>window. I DO NOT want her in there, I do NOT care how much she likes [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Offer from last time still stands. Give me the cat and I'll find her a > good forever home that appreciates cat behavior. > I CAN keep a cat out of the window. Don't challenge me. I think you are already challenged enough. I hope your cat castrates you in your sleep. >I CAN keep a cat out of the window. Don't challenge me. All I have to do is >put mouse-traps or even RAT traps there and we'll see who wins. Or I could >tie her to a leash. Forget the power struggle with the cat and do something about that pencil dick complex of yours. Sherry > >I CAN keep a cat out of the window. Don't challenge me. All I have to do is > >put mouse-traps or even RAT traps there and we'll see who wins. Or I could > >tie her to a leash. > > Forget the power struggle with the cat and do something about that pencil dick > complex of yours. He's a text book case, isn't he? I'd be willing to bet money on it. Just put some aluminium foil all the way on the windowsill and some more aluminium foil at the place from which she jumps off or pushes off to get to the window cell. Always works for me. ~vladpetersen Thanks for the advice. If aluminum foil will do the trick, that's just fine by me. I will admit that part of it isn't just the privacy issues, it's also the idea that she refuses to obey my orders. At this point even if there were no privacy issues--and there ARE--but even if they were not I'd still insist on it just because of the IDEA that she ought to do as she's told. No, there is no power "struggle," the so-called "struggle" can end very quickly if I resort to mouse traps. But again I don't want it to be like that. I just want the cat to stay out of the window because of how it messes up the blinds, and no I'm not going to get new blinds or change them, because of the idea that I shouldn't have to. Maybe some other time when I'm in a better mood about it I will, but first I intend to reinforce the reality that it's MY house and she just lives here and that the boundaries of the owner (me) WILL be respected, emphatically so. So if aluminum foil works, I'm willing to try that. Maybe double-sided carpet tape? One other alterative occurred to me--a thin strip of wood, with something sharp & pointed like thumbtacks sticking up from it. But anyway, some of you did give helpful advice to help me do this, and I will take those into consideration as well. PS--the snotty cats aren't as snotty anymore. They're much more receptive to petting and being held and even sometimes crawl up on us and lay there awhile. It's cute, and because of that they're allowed to continue living here. LRH > Just put some aluminium foil all the way on the windowsill and some > more aluminium foil at the place from which she jumps off or pushes off > to get to the window cell. Always works for me. > > ~vladpetersen > it's also the idea that she refuses to obey my orders. If you want a pet that obeys your orders, find a good home for the cat and get yourself a dog. If I want to do heavy off-roading I don't buy a Honda Civic, I buy a Jeep. A Civic just doesn't perform in a way that suits my needs, and it will only frustrate me to try to force it to. You're doing the same thing with animals. A cat doesn't suit your needs. Instead of trying to change the cat, get the pet that matches your personal requirements, or you'll only continue to be frustrated. TJGirl@SAFe-mail.net wrote in news:1106321566.373293.13710 @c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: >> it's also the idea that she refuses to obey my orders. > > If you want a pet that obeys your orders, find a good home for the cat > and get yourself a dog. Wait a minute there... don't sic this guy on the good dogs of the world! Yes, dogs can be taught to obey more than cats (maybe) -- but they are still individuals whose personality and preferences should be taken into account at least some of the time, and the OP seems incapable of that. (If he is indeed real and not just a troll.) --Catherine & Rosalie the calico & Zoe the cockerchow, who also likes to look out the window, and would be unhappy if she couldn't Good points. I take it back. As the next reply to mine said, he should get a pet rock. > (If he is indeed real and not just a troll.) I didn't read the whole post, but now I see someone else quoted a bit about wood and thumbtacks. Definite troll. I can see the drool. Signaturehttp://www.slywy.com/ >> it's also the idea that she refuses to obey my orders. > > If you want a pet that obeys your orders, find a good home for the cat and > get yourself a dog. I wish people would stop suggesting dogs to this guy. With his brilliant "training techniques," I really don't think it would be fair to any animal to be forced to live with him. > If I want to do heavy off-roading I don't buy a Honda Civic, I buy a Jeep. > A Civic just doesn't perform in a way that suits my needs, and it will only [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Instead of trying to change the cat, get the pet that matches your personal > requirements, or you'll only continue to be frustrated. Yes. I recommend a pet rock, or possibly a plant, as long as it grows in the right direction and doesn't infuriate him by blooming at the wrong time. Signaturemonique, roommate of Oscar the (female) grouch ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Eros was adopted! Eros has a home now! *cheer!* Why do I get the feeling that this guy will hurt an animal in order to get the results he wants? Certainly sounds like it from his posts. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > If you want a pet that obeys your orders, find a good home for the cat > and get yourself a dog. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > needs. Instead of trying to change the cat, get the pet that matches > your personal requirements, or you'll only continue to be frustrated. > Why do I get the feeling that this guy will hurt an animal in order to get > the results he wants? Um. Because he said so?? >> it's also the idea that she refuses to obey my orders. > > If you want a pet that obeys your orders, find a good home for the cat > and get yourself a dog. Amen to that. > If I want to do heavy off-roading I don't buy a Honda Civic, I buy a > Jeep. REALLY??? :) Signaturehttp://www.slywy.com/ > So if aluminum foil works, I'm willing to try that. Maybe double-sided > carpet tape? One other alterative occurred to me--a thin strip of wood, > with something sharp & pointed like thumbtacks sticking up from it. Please tell me you're not serious. Are you going to take her to the vet after she has an infected paw, or just tell the cat to deal with it? Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net "Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG > Thanks for the advice. If aluminum foil will do the trick, that's just fine > by me. > > I will admit that part of it isn't just the privacy issues, it's > that I have this leetle tiny dick, and I think if I can >subjugate a helpless creature it might make me forget >this. > I will admit that part of it isn't just the privacy issues, it's also the > idea that she refuses to obey my orders. At this point even if there were no > privacy issues--and there ARE--but even if they were not I'd still insist on > it just because of the IDEA that she ought to do as she's told. How does it feel to know that everyone who reads your posts is laughing at you? I continue to hope that you're not capable of breeding. I can only imagine the fun dad you'd be! Signaturemonique, roommate of Oscar the (female) grouch ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Eros was adopted! Eros has a home now! *cheer!* Cats will not obey your orders as they are not dogs. BTW, I have to wonder how many times you mess with your own blinds? It doesn't hurt them to pull them up a little so the cat can look outside. Of course you are starting to sound more like a troller given your threats of putting mousetraps on the ledge in order to keep the cat from going up there. That is cruel as well as your board with thumb tacks idea. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > Thanks for the advice. If aluminum foil will do the trick, that's just > fine by me. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> >> ~vladpetersen > I will admit that part of it isn't just the privacy issues, it's also the > idea that she refuses to obey my orders. Demanding that a cat obey your orders like a little martinet sounds like a bit of a psychological issue. Signaturehttp://www.slywy.com/pages/hodge.html > > I will admit that part of it isn't just the privacy issues, it's also the > > idea that she refuses to obey my orders. > > Demanding that a cat obey your orders like a little martinet sounds like > a bit of a psychological issue. You have a real knack for understatement. ;) > > I will admit that part of it isn't just the privacy issues, it's also the > > idea that she refuses to obey my orders. > > Demanding that a cat obey your orders like a little martinet sounds like > a bit of a psychological issue. Absolutely! He's suffering from Munchausen's Syndrome by Proxy. Seriously. There are documented cases of battered/abused pets being linked to owners suffering from this syndrome. This lunatic should not only be prohibited from having pets, but kids, too. In fact he should be institutionalized. Phil. > I CAN keep a cat out of the window. Don't challenge me. All I have to do is > put mouse-traps or even RAT traps there and we'll see who wins. Or I could [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >>Offer from last time still stands. Give me the cat and I'll find her a >>good forever home that appreciates cat behavior. If he does such a cruel and unnecessary thing, all we can hope is when someone sees those in the windows, they report this... this.... "person" to the RSPCA, who will certainly take the cat away. Stop trying to outsmart your cat. It's already apparent you won't win. jmc When guy says "don't challenge me" they also become the great animal abusers of the world and probably have no problems beating up their wife or GF. I hope this cat gets a good and loving home with someone else and that this guy doesn't get any more animals. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com >> I CAN keep a cat out of the window. Don't challenge me. All I have to do >> is put mouse-traps or even RAT traps there and we'll see who wins. Or I [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > jmc >I CAN keep a cat out of the window. Don't challenge me. All I have to do is >put mouse-traps or even RAT traps there and we'll see who wins. Or I could [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > LRH Why do you even want a cat? They are not animals you can control. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net "Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG > >I CAN keep a cat out of the window. Don't challenge me. All I have to do is > >put mouse-traps or even RAT traps there and we'll see who wins. Or I could [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Why do you even want a cat? They are not animals you can control. This is precisely why little dickheads like Larry want cats--so that he can prove his manhood by controlling the uncontrollable. How much you want to bet he's got poop in his shoes or pee in his bed in short order? Cats are not to be f.cked with. (...) > This is precisely why little dickheads like Larry want cats--so that > he can prove his manhood by controlling the uncontrollable. Bah, cats aren't 'uncontrollable' - they can be coerced into doing stuff, at least most of the time. Anyway, I would post more but one of my cats wants a piece of chicken liver, roasted at 342F for 18min, and served on a sliver of dried salmon, and the other would like to play (but with the mylar-rod toy, not the fluffy-rod toy or the stuffed mouse). I'll be back to talk about how easy it is to train cats later. > Cats are not to be f.cked with. At least not without adequate lubrication. Steve. > (...) > > This is precisely why little dickheads like Larry want cats--so that [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Steve. You're sick. :) I like that in a person. > I CAN keep a cat out of the window. Don't challenge me. > All I have to do is put mouse-traps or even RAT traps > there and we'll see who wins. Hey Larry, don't listen to these bleeding-heart liberal pansy-a.ses; your rat-trap idea is excellent. Now, when you set the trap, you must check that it has the correct sensitivity by triggering it using your nose. If you don't want to use your nose for this purpose, your penis would suffice, assuming it is long enough to reach the trigger bar. In either case, I *guarantee* this will solve your problems, or I'll give you a free one-way bus ticket to Rangoon. Steve. Another troller with bad advice. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > >> I CAN keep a cat out of the window. Don't challenge me. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Steve. > Another troller with bad advice. GD it, CP, he is joking. Being sarcastic. For Cat's sake, man, get your brain in gear! I said: > > Now, when you set the trap, you must check that it has the correct > > sensitivity by triggering it using your nose. If you don't want to use > > your nose for this purpose, your penis would suffice, assuming it is > > long enough to reach the trigger bar. In either case, I *guarantee* > > this will solve your problems, or I'll give you a free one-way bus > > ticket to Rangoon. > Another troller with bad advice. CP, sometimes I swear you don't just have space between your ears, you have a perfect vacuum. Steve. What is that supposed to mean? Do you have a problem with people that actually don't want to harm a cat? If that makes me dumb then so be it. At least I am not trolling the newsgroups wanting to help other would-be abusers like you are. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > CP, sometimes I swear you don't just have space between your ears, you > have a perfect vacuum. > > Steve. > What is that supposed to mean? Do you have a problem with people that > actually don't want to harm a cat? If that makes me dumb then so be it. At > least I am not trolling the newsgroups wanting to help other would-be > abusers like you are. I guess you don't get sarcasm. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net "Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG No. I just don't get people who support the abuse of cats. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > I guess you don't get sarcasm. > No. I just don't get people who support the abuse of cats. reread the following again: >Hey Larry, don't listen to these bleeding-heart liberal pansy-a.ses; >your rat-trap idea is excellent. >Now, when you set the trap, you must check that it has the correct >sensitivity by triggering it using your nose. If you don't want to use >your nose for this purpose, your penis would suffice, assuming it is >long enough to reach the trigger bar. In either case, I *guarantee* >this will solve your problems, or I'll give you a free one-way bus >ticket to Rangoon. >Steve. > No. I just don't get people who support the abuse of cats. No, you DON'T GET SARCASM. HTH. :) > No. I just don't get people who support the abuse of cats. Steve wasn't. He was using sarcasm to make fun of what an idiot this guy is. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net "Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG > I CAN keep a cat out of the window. Don't challenge me. All I have to do is > put mouse-traps or even RAT traps there and we'll see who wins. Or I could > tie her to a leash. Your cat allows you to be an a.shole - so you should at least allow her to be a cat. Cats love looking out windows. That's way many people buy window perches for their cats. Duh! Looking outside from the safety of her home helps prevent cats from becoming bored, stressed and neurotic - which can lead to all sorts of behavior problems including pissing and sh.tting all over your house and on your bed. Would you like that better? Since she has to put up with your psychotic, insecure, paranoid, and utterly stupid personality disorders - the least you should do is let her indulge in *normal*, natural, feline behavior - although you have no clue what "normal" is. Here's a hint: "Normal" is what most people are and what you are not. It must be demeaning and frustrating as hell having a cat that's smarter than you! You resent her superior intelligence and the fact she outwits you everytime. That's why you conjure up all these psychotic violent dilusional solutions to what amounts to normal, natural feline behavior. > I have a cat that stubbornly refuses to stay out of the living room window. > I DO NOT want her in there, I do NOT care how much she likes seeing the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > LRH Put scat mats in front of the window. Get vertical mini blinds to replace the ones you have. They are plastic, and not that fragile. (...) > Put scat mats in front of the window. Get vertical mini blinds to > replace the ones you have. They are plastic, and not that fragile. Though it's quite likely that the OP is a troll, it's probably worth listing the many options for keeping fluffy psychos away from Stuff. As well as scat mats, there are: * Things to not jump on: - Double sided tape. - 'Sticky paws', if you fancy buying double-sided tape at 83x the cost. - Rubber-spiked matting, either carpet protector or commercial anti-catpaw trickery. - A shallow pan filled with yucky stuff (oil, treacle, even water). - Raised chickenwire overlay. * Sound: - Motion detector sound generators (e.g., Scraminal). - Vibration detector sound generator. - Mousetraps, but taped and beneath a card or paper overlay so that the cat cannot trap a paw. I think there are commercial 'mousetraps', designed for cat training, that just make a snapping sound (no trap as such)? * Smells: - Fart in the general area. Or if you are feeling non-gaseous, then use some appropriate smell-generating item, such as a pig. * Other changes to landing surface: - Tilt the surface so that the cat can't stay there (e.g., a tilted board on top of the shelf). * Things you can do when you're present: - Supersoaker. - Loud whistle (e.g., ACME Thunderer). - Guided missile. Steve. Thanks for the tips, Steve. I'll try some of them out. LRH > (...) >> [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > Steve. Oh geeze, another troller and abuser giving bad advice with the intent on harming the cat. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > Thanks for the tips, Steve. I'll try some of them out. > [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >> >> Steve. > (...) > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > listing the many options for keeping fluffy psychos away from Stuff. As > well as scat mats, there are: Um, lurking cat newbies better avoid using some of these methods indoors, or in the vicinity of fragile items that could be damaged if the cat is startled. Such as, say, a 20-ft radius. :) > * Things to not jump on: > - Double sided tape. Loose pieces of tape could eliminate the fragile mini-blinds, real quick. > - 'Sticky paws', if you fancy buying double-sided tape at 83x the > cost. > - Rubber-spiked matting, either carpet protector or commercial > anti-catpaw trickery. > - A shallow pan filled with yucky stuff (oil, treacle, even water). > - Raised chickenwire overlay. Um, 'chickenwire' usually means something that would be dangerous here, as the meshes are large enough that a cat's paw could get caught in one. Even 'hardware cloth' might entangle a claw. In any case, whatever overlay is used would need to be fastened very securely or it is likely to come down with the cat. > * Sound: > - Motion detector sound generators (e.g., Scraminal). [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > - Fart in the general area. Or if you are feeling non-gaseous, then > use some appropriate smell-generating item, such as a pig. Careful of using even smells that are pleasant to humans, such a perfume or citrus or 'air freshener'. Those can make a whole room unpleasant or dangerous for a cat. Newbies should consult their vet about those, or about commercial 'cat repellants'. > * Other changes to landing surface: > - Tilt the surface so that the cat can't stay there (e.g., a tilted [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Steve. LOL, thanks. :) Seriously, a window might be irresistible (and rightly so) but I have seen cats trained to stay off tables and kitchen counters. The key seems to be immediate and non-negotiable and consistent response. The owner _immediately_ goes to the cat and gently picks it up and removes it. Making non-startling warning noises ("Oh-nononono"). Anything that would startle or upset the car, is likely to lead to upset tea cups. :) Margaret S. SignatureNothing I say is professional advice. Consult your own doctor, lawyer, veterinarian, butcher, baker, and candlestick maker. And if they all agree, go for it. :) > >> * Things to not jump on: >> - Double sided tape. > > Loose pieces of tape could eliminate the fragile mini-blinds, real quick. "Fragile" mini-blinds only cost about $5 to replace from WalMart with vinyl ones for an ordinary sized window, and a couple more dollars for metal ones. It's not much more for a large window. The trolling OP needs to quit obsessing about the blinds having to be completely closed, and pull them up a few inches so the cat can get under them. My cats bent the metal mini-blinds that came with the house, when I forgot to pull them up one day, after we had them down to watch a movie in the daytime. They will occasionally poke their heads through the vinyl blinds that I replaced them with, but they spring right back into shape. Signaturejamie (jamiemck@newsguy.com) "There's a seeker born every minute." > "Fragile" mini-blinds only cost about $5 to replace from WalMart with > vinyl ones for an ordinary sized window, and a couple more dollars > for metal ones. It's not much more for a large window. I dunno about this. My mini-blinds for 9 windows were $500. :) Signaturehttp://www.slywy.com/pages/hodge.html > They will occasionally poke their heads > through the vinyl blinds that I replaced them with, but they spring > right back into shape. Hodge bites through aluminum blinds. Now I've got plastic ones in a new apt., I keep them out of his reach. No privacy here. Signaturehttp://www.slywy.com/pages/hodge.html (...) > Um, lurking cat newbies better avoid using some of these methods indoors, or > in the vicinity of fragile items that could be damaged if the cat is > startled. Such as, say, a 20-ft radius. :) Presumably there are no fragile items on the window ledge, unless the OP is truly trying to kick himself up the arse. In any case, the cat will probably only need to be startled once or twice before it no longer ventures toward the precious blinds. > > * Things to not jump on: > > - Double sided tape. > > Loose pieces of tape could eliminate the fragile mini-blinds, real quick. There won't be loose pieces of tape if the tape is stuck to the windowledge, unless the tape is applied by a 7-thumbed retard with rampant astigmatism. (...) > > - Raised chickenwire overlay. > > Um, 'chickenwire' usually means something that would be dangerous here, as > the meshes are large enough that a cat's paw could get caught in one. No, chickewire mesh is typically much larger than a cat's paw, unless your cat is a Bengal Tiger. In that case, I would let the cat sit wherever it want to. > Even 'hardware cloth' might entangle a claw. I own rodents. Their cage lid is made of hardware cloth. My cats (used to) walk - and sleep - on this lid. The only way a cat claw would get tangled would be if the rodents cunningly glued the claw to the mesh. Hardware cloth is very easy for (my) cats to walk on, and provides a decent enough landing surface. I wouldn't use it as a aversive surface for that reason - i.e., it's not aversive! > In any case, whatever overlay is used would need to be fastened very > securely or it is likely to come down with the cat. Of course. Could use something designed to fall down with the cat though - obviously not metal mesh! Paper? Foil? (...) > Careful of using even smells that are pleasant to humans, such a perfume or > citrus or 'air freshener'. Those can make a whole room unpleasant or > dangerous for a cat. Doubt it. Especially the dangerous bit. > Seriously, a window might be irresistible (and rightly so) but I have seen > cats trained to stay off tables and kitchen counters. The key seems to be > immediate and non-negotiable and consistent response. The owner > _immediately_ goes to the cat and gently picks it up and removes it. Making > non-startling warning noises ("Oh-nononono"). Anything that would startle or > upset the car, is likely to lead to upset tea cups. :) Not the best advice for generalising learning because the cat will associate the aversive act with the owner's presence, and thus said cat is very likely to simply hop on counters when the owner is not around. Especially if they punishment isn't terribly aversive anyway. As to the tea cups - move 'em! Steve. > I have a cat that stubbornly refuses to stay out of the living room window. > I DO NOT want her in there, I do NOT care how much she likes seeing the > outdoors. The blinds on that window are fragile, and you have to have them > just so or else everyone walking by can see all in there. Is this daytime or nighttime? If it's daytime, what about some sort of reflective window film. That can be very nice. From outside it looks like the sun was reflecting from the window and no one can see in. From inside it doesn't obstruct the view at all, and it never needs readjusting. If the problem is people seeing in at night, it might be worthwhile to invest in some sort of privacy screen / shutters / louvers that could fit outside the window. That would be extra security against break-ins also. Or drapes on a rod that sticks out into the room, so the cat could have plenty of room on the windowsill between the drapes and the glass. If the rod brackets are long enough she could get up and down without ever touching the drapes. Margaret S. SignatureNothing I say is professional advice. Consult your own doctor, lawyer, veterinarian, butcher, baker, and candlestick and curtain maker. > I have a cat that stubbornly refuses to stay out of the living room window. > I DO NOT want her in there, I do NOT care how much she likes seeing the [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Tips? Yeah. Just one. Take your cat to your vet and ask him to find her a home. When he asks you why you're giving up your cat, tell him its because you're too f.cking stupid to have a cat. > > I have a cat that stubbornly refuses to stay out of the living room > window. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > When he asks you why you're giving up your cat, tell him its because you're > too f.cking stupid to have a cat. Honest to God, Phil, there are times when I actually love you. :') > > > I have a cat that stubbornly refuses to stay out of the living room > > window. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > :') Should I start printing up invitations? I'm always looking for a future X-Mrs. P. LOL! I only have two stipulations: 1. The woman must love cats; 2. She must have a pulse. Phil. "Cats are a great warm-up to a successful marriage; they teach you your place in the household". --Paul Gallico Feline Healthcare: http://maxshouse.com > > > > I have a cat that stubbornly refuses to stay out of the living room > > > window. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > X-Mrs. P. LOL! I only have two stipulations: 1. The woman must love cats; > 2. She must have a pulse. Hee! Troll O Meter 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 ___________________________________________________ | | | | | | | | | | | --------------------------------------------------- ^ | PLEASE, folks, do not take up bandwith answering this troll. >Troll O Meter > 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 > ___________________________________________________ > | | | | | | | | | | | > --------------------------------------------------- > ^ > | >PLEASE, folks, do not take up bandwith answering this troll. Your meter's broken. Mine measured a solid 8. Have you thought of pulling up the blinds a little so the cat sit on the ledge and look outside? SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com >I have a cat that stubbornly refuses to stay out of the living room window. >I DO NOT want her in there, I do NOT care how much she likes seeing the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > LRH > Have you thought of pulling up the blinds a little so the cat sit on the > ledge and look outside? I can't, that's how fragile they are. Once you get them set, even the SLIGHTEST movements & it's all messed up & has to be done over. It's annoying. It's the only reason I raise such a stink, otherwise it would be just fine with me (although it does annoy me for her to apparently KNOW I don't like it & to keep doing it anyway--that's where I become angry). LRH I'm going to reply to this just in case you seriously have this misconception. Or maybe someone else with this misconception can learn from it - since I don't think you are very receptive to the truth. > although it does annoy me for her to apparently KNOW I don't like it She does NOT know you don't like it. She knows that it's wrong for you to catch her there. Animals cannot abstract that reasoning like humans into knowing it's wrong to BE there at all. She has no idea she's doing anything wrong, and is NOT trying to annoy you. She is simply being a cat. If your curtains are that fragile, get a new set. There's no reason to need curtains like that. I have big, heavy curtains that the cats have been caught climbing, and they still are in great shape. Plus they're heavy enough that after getting bumped around, they just fall back into their normal position, covering the entire window. I have no need to precisely reposition them. You have got to be kidding. Where did you get these blinds, Nemon Marcus? Blinds can be opened, pulled back, pulled up so the cat can look out the window. Give the cat a break, put away your abusive anger and stop thinking about how it inconveniences you. Either that or get new blinds that are more flexible. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > I can't, that's how fragile they are. Once you get them set, even the > SLIGHTEST movements & it's all messed up & has to be done over. It's [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > LRH > You have got to be kidding. Where did you get these blinds, Nemon Marcus? > Blinds can be opened, pulled back, pulled up so the cat can look out the > window. Give the cat a break, put away your abusive anger and stop > thinking about how it inconveniences you. Either that or get new blinds > that are more flexible. Seriously. If my blinds were that fragile and that much of a PITA, I would get new ones. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net "Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG Me too. It seems the OP is one of those people who care more for objects than the cat themselves. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > Seriously. If my blinds were that fragile and that much of a PITA, I > would get new ones.
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