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Odd kitten behavior - help (long)

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KellyH - 17 Jan 2005 15:15 GMT
I know this is long, but please bear with me.  I am hoping maybe someone
recognizes this behavior.  I have changed names in this story for privacy.

One of the higher-ups at our shelter has been trying to help her friend,
Carrie with a kitten she has that has biting issues and is destructive.  The
kitten, Rusty, is 5 months old, not yet neutered (her vet wouldn't do it
yet), they have had him since he was 8 weeks old.  He is an only kitten.
Rusty bites hands and ankles, not just during play but he will do it out of
the blue.  They have tried squirting water, time-outs, saying "no" loudly.
He is also very destructive and wrecks the house when no one is home,
although oddly, he doesn't claw furniture which is good.  I should add he is
indoor-only.  Lately, Carrie has had to put Rusty in a bathroom when no one
is home because of this.  We felt this was probably just making the problem
worse.

So, the shelter agreed to take Rusty in and try to work with him.  One of
our volunteers, Joan, who is a feral trapper and tamer, extremely
experienced in all kinds of behavior, took him home to foster.  We thought
her house would be a good place for this since she has a few kittens his age
she's fostering.  We thought that Rusty is probably bored and needs a
playmate.  A few of us met Rusty when Carrie brought him in.  I held him for
some time, and he was sweet and purring.  Joan took Rusty home, and said the
minute she walked through the door, he started growling in the carrier.  She
put him in a spare room, away from the other cats and left him be.  When she
came to check on him, he was very agitated, growling.  By the next morning,
this kitten was attacking her and then started hyperventalating.  She felt
her home was not a good environment for Rusty so she brought him to the
shelter.  Rusty is now in a cage in our vetting suite (only two other cats
housed in that room, not a big typical shelter room).  Joan felt awful
bringing him in, but didn't know what else to do.  When someone checked on
Rusty yesterday, they said he was friendly and asked for petting.

The obvious thing is the cat needs to be neutered.  Maybe he is getting
wacky from hormones.  That will be done next week.  Has anyone else
experienced such unpredictability in a kitten?  We know leaving him in a
cage is not the right answer, but all of us volunteers have multi-cat
households, so he would probably flip at anyone else's house, too.

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Karen Chuplis - 17 Jan 2005 16:32 GMT
> I know this is long, but please bear with me.  I am hoping maybe someone
> recognizes this behavior.  I have changed names in this story for privacy.
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> cage is not the right answer, but all of us volunteers have multi-cat
> households, so he would probably flip at anyone else's house, too.

I don't think you can figure out anything about his behaviour until he is
neutered. I can't believe a vet wouldn't do it now at 5 months. I would then
make sure whereever he is there are feliway diffusers. But honestly, until
the hormone issue is addressed, I'm not sure how you can figure out what is
going on.
Mary - 17 Jan 2005 19:30 GMT
> One of the higher-ups at our shelter has been trying to help her friend,
> Carrie with a kitten she has that has biting issues and is destructive.  The
> kitten, Rusty, is 5 months old, not yet neutered (her vet wouldn't do it
> yet), they have had him since he was 8 weeks old.  He is an only kitten.

What is his history? Did Carrie have him when he was born, or was he found
with a stray mom, that sort of thing? I wonder if something happened early
to make him distrust
people?
KellyH - 17 Jan 2005 20:00 GMT
> What is his history? Did Carrie have him when he was born, or was he found
> with a stray mom, that sort of thing? I wonder if something happened early
> to make him distrust
> people?

She got him from a friend with an indoor/outdoor cat who had a litter.  I
have no idea how this person treated the mother and kittens.  He was 8 weeks
old when she took him home.  My first guess was the typical kitten problem
where people let the baby kitten bite their hand in play, thinking it's cute
because it doesn't hurt, and it later becomes a problem when it does hurt.
Plus, he didn't have a playmate to expend this energy.  I think there is a
bit of this going on, but that doesn't account for the aggression.

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Mary - 17 Jan 2005 20:20 GMT
> > What is his history? Did Carrie have him when he was born, or was he found
> > with a stray mom, that sort of thing? I wonder if something happened early
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> Plus, he didn't have a playmate to expend this energy.  I think there is a
> bit of this going on, but that doesn't account for the aggression.

I see--so there is no way of knowing what his first experiences with
people were. In any case if it is not learned, perhaps it is chemical.
I wonder if you can know what is making him aggressive
until he is neutered, and his hormones calm down.
KellyH - 17 Jan 2005 20:26 GMT
> I see--so there is no way of knowing what his first experiences with
> people were. In any case if it is not learned, perhaps it is chemical.
> I wonder if you can know what is making him aggressive
> until he is neutered, and his hormones calm down.

I agree, neutering is the first step.  I was just curious if someone
recognized this behavior.  It could be chemical, who knows.
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kelly at farringtons dot net
"Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG

Mary - 17 Jan 2005 22:01 GMT
> > I see--so there is no way of knowing what his first experiences with
> > people were. In any case if it is not learned, perhaps it is chemical.
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> I agree, neutering is the first step.  I was just curious if someone
> recognized this behavior.  It could be chemical, who knows.
Poor little guy. Hope you'll keep us posted.

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