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raenee - 12 Jan 2005 23:45 GMT
I don't really need help with this for my cat, but for a friends cat.
She lets her cat's claws grow out really long and avoids clipping them
because "it's too much hassle". I've seen her try to clip her cat's
claws. She takes a towel and wraps the cut up like a soft taco with the
paws sticking out. Naturally, the cat hates it and because it hates
being taco'd, it hates clipping in general.

What I do with my cat is wait until she's asleep... She pretty much
turns into a ragdoll. But my friends cat, even when it's sleeping,
wakes up when I start on her claws. I'm sure I'm not clipping too
close- If anything, I'm leaving a bit much from the fear of clipping
too close.

Sooo.... I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions on calming the
cat and on keeping it calm throughout the entire claw-cutting
experience.... Many thanks :)
Cheryl - 13 Jan 2005 00:10 GMT
> I don't really need help with this for my cat, but for a friends
> cat. She lets her cat's claws grow out really long and avoids
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> hates it and because it hates being taco'd, it hates clipping in
> general.

"taco'd" lol Cute!

> What I do with my cat is wait until she's asleep... She pretty
> much turns into a ragdoll. But my friends cat, even when it's
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> calming the cat and on keeping it calm throughout the entire
> claw-cutting experience.... Many thanks :)

Of the cats who let me trim, I only do a few claws at a time. Most
of the cats I've had squirm so much I'm afraid I'll hurt them, so I
have the vets office do them. I've seen many suggestions here over
the years on how to do them effectively, but none of the
suggestions work for me. I hope you can find something that works.

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raenee - 13 Jan 2005 00:16 GMT
Like I said, I wait till my cat is pretty much unconsious and then I
can do all of hers, but my friends cat is impossible to do even a
couple.
BudGan - 13 Jan 2005 16:32 GMT
>>I don't really need help with this for my cat, but for a friends
>>cat. She lets her cat's claws grow out really long and avoids
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> the years on how to do them effectively, but none of the
> suggestions work for me. I hope you can find something that works.

Petsmart also provides this service at some of their locations, and
it's way cheaper than the vet.
Rene S. - 13 Jan 2005 03:05 GMT
The first time I tried to clip Benny, I tried the towel (and had
another person't help!). It was a disaster. He *hated* being taco'd
*hee*. I started to pick him up (no towel), hold a paw or two and
"pretend" like I would clip, but not actually do anything. I'd usually
sit on a chair and put his rump down on my lap, like he was sitting in
the chair too (I hope you can picture this, hard to describe).
Immediately afterward, I would give him a treat.

Then I'd do one or two claws, stop and give a treat and do more later.
No, I can do them all and he will purr!

Take it slowly, and approach confidently. As they say, Rome wasn't
built in a day, and once she learns that treats and pets go along with
the clipping, it's a much more positive experience.

Rene
Enid - 13 Jan 2005 03:16 GMT
Hi.  My cat, Snowflake, hates to have her claws clipped.  I started
doing this since I first adopted her (she was 3 months old).  No matter
how soothing, calm, etc. I am -- she screams like she is being stabbed
to death!

So, it is the soft taco roll for me as well.  However, she sometimes
unrolls and I have to almost lie on top of her.  It is stressfull for
both of us, but I cannot afford to take her to the vet to get her claws
clipped (heck, I cannot afford to get myself a manicure!).

Snowflake has always been a slightly jumpy kitty (she was a babe living
on the mean streets before she was rescued and put up for adoption).
Thanks!

-Enid
Elizabeth Blake - 13 Jan 2005 05:10 GMT
> Hi.  My cat, Snowflake, hates to have her claws clipped.  I started
> doing this since I first adopted her (she was 3 months old).  No matter
> how soothing, calm, etc. I am -- she screams like she is being stabbed
> to death!

At work we have two cats.  Stinky was only 3 months old when we got her and
I clipped her claws the first day.  She was fine, and for the next couple of
years I could clip her claws whenever I wanted.  One time she started to
squirm a lot.  The next time she kept trying to get off my lap.  Now it's
almost impossible.  She's a big cat and when she's afraid, she doesn't mind
digging those claws into my flesh.  Once I finally wrangle her into a
sitting position on my lap she'll calm down a bit.  She makes the most
pathetic cries when I'm trying to get her into the correct position.  My
boss thought maybe one time I hurt her while doing it, but I never have.
One time she was perfectly fine, the very next time was a struggle.

> So, it is the soft taco roll for me as well.  However, she sometimes
> unrolls and I have to almost lie on top of her.  It is stressfull for
> both of us, but I cannot afford to take her to the vet to get her claws
> clipped (heck, I cannot afford to get myself a manicure!).

Taking Stinky to the vet just for a trim isn't an option either.

> Snowflake has always been a slightly jumpy kitty (she was a babe living
> on the mean streets before she was rescued and put up for adoption).
> Thanks!
>
> -Enid

Stinky is *very* jumpy and nervous.  And, like the claw trimming, she wasn't
always that way.  She was a very outgoing kitten and young cat.  Then around
the age of a year, she started acting very weird, hiding, running from new
people.  She'd spend all her time in the basement of the store.  For the
past 6 months or so, she's actually been coming out of her shell.  She will
sometimes follow me upstairs into the actual store and last week a customer
spotter her (which usually makes her race back down the stairs) and the
woman bend down and held out her hand.  Stinky went up to her and let the
woman pet her.  I was so proud of her (Stinky, not the woman!).  We sell
textbooks at our store, and school is starting up soon.  That means we hire
a bunch of extra temporary help.  So far, Stinky hasn't run from any of
them.  There was a new guy standing in an aisle last week and Stinky wanted
to go by, but didn't want to pass him.  She decided to just stand her ground
and hiss at him (something she never does), I guess hoping he'd move.  Then
she saw me walk by and decided it was safe to run past him.

Last week, I trimmed her claws and the struggles wasn't nearly as bad and
once I actually started clipping, she stopped struggling.

Stinky actually sharpens her claws on metal, and get they very pointy.

--
Liz
Margaret - 13 Jan 2005 11:00 GMT
/snip/

> Stinky actually sharpens her claws on metal, and get they very pointy.

What about giving her something else to scratch on? There are lots of good
products out there.

Margaret
-L. - 13 Jan 2005 06:31 GMT
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> Sooo.... I was wondering if you guys had any suggestions on calming the
> cat and on keeping it calm throughout the entire claw-cutting
> experience.... Many thanks :)

>From an old post - just some tips on clipping:

My experience is that the more you do it, the more they get used to it.

Good technique and tools are esssential. I like to use the
small, blunt-nosed, notched, scissor-like clippers (Groommax Cat Nail
Clippers, available at PetSmart ), as they are less obtrusive and
easier to handle.  I've trimmed claws on hundreds
of cats (used to be a groomer), and those work best for me. You will
eventually find a set of tools and a routine that works for you, if you
stick with it long enough. Also, the vet can give you lessons in
technique if you need them.

The method I use is this:

While standing, place the cat on a folded towel, on an *unfamiliar*++
table, with his head to your left. Put his body close to yours so that
you can lean to the outside (furthest from your body) and clip first
the fronts, and then the backs (or vice-verse - I do both).
When clipping the fronts, I pull the paw up and out, and kinda behind
their head, so that if they do try to bite, they have to go past their
own arm to do so, which gives me enough time to get away. When clipping
the backs, I just pull the foot out, or in some cases, I gently flip it
back. As I do the backs, I block the head with my arm and elbow, so
that the cat can't reach around and bite.

Flip kitty 180 degrees (this is why you have him on a towel), and
repeat the procedure on the other side. Let go, and watch him fly! ;o)

Obviously, if you have any cats that are real biters (rather than
nippers), you have to have someone scruff them while you trim their
nails. If the cat remains difficult to trim, I suggest having your vet
do it for you (should be free or less than $10). Also, the vet may be
able to help you improve your technique so that it becomes much easier
for you.

++The reason you put the cat in an unfamiliar placve to do the
trimming is that it distracts the cat, and allows it to focus on
something other than biting you. If you trim in the cat's own
"territory" it knows exactly where to move, where to jump to, and where
to hide. I do the trimming on my kitchen island, since that is a place
the cats are not familiar with. A folding table in an attached garage
would serve the same purpose.

HTH,
L.
Holly - 13 Jan 2005 16:37 GMT
Hi I trim my my siamese nails while she is in the bathtub. She loves her bath so going along with the clipping is a must if she wants to get in the water. My kitten on the other hand hates it and it takes at least 2 days to clip them all. Like they say slow and steady wins the race.
Jen - 13 Jan 2005 20:27 GMT
Hi,
My cat also hates having her nails clipped.  One technique that works
for me is to have a friend blow in her face while I clip her nails.
Blowing in her face is a good distractor.
Enid - 14 Jan 2005 03:33 GMT
All very good advice.  Snowflake has always hated this, and I am not a
novice as I have had cats for years and years.

She uses all the scratching posts I have for her; however, Lapkitty who
is declawed (I will never declaw again although he is fine - just won't
do it anymore) likes to use the scratching posts as well.

Unfortunately, Snowflake has "sliced and diced" my new sofa (I am very
unhappy about that).  Even the "sticky paws" strips did not deter her.
Oh well.

Regards,

Enid
Wendy - 15 Jan 2005 11:43 GMT
> I don't really need help with this for my cat, but for a friends cat.
> She lets her cat's claws grow out really long and avoids clipping them
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> cat and on keeping it calm throughout the entire claw-cutting
> experience.... Many thanks :)

Tell your friend to play with her cat's paws when she's petting him/her.
This will get the cat used to having the paws touched and played with and
might help the cat feel less threatened when it comes time to clip. Others
have given excellent suggestions for the actual clipping.

W

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