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Mark Healey - 29 Dec 2004 07:25 GMT
Several people have independently refered to my cats as Monster cats.
They never seemed that big to me.  I decided to weight them by holding
them while I'm on the scale and then weighing myself.

One of them is 21 pounds and the other is 20.  These just regular
short hair cats and they aren't fat.

Are they C.O.U.S.es (Cats Of Unusual Size)?

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Mathew Kagis - 29 Dec 2004 09:38 GMT
> Are they C.O.U.S.es (Cats Of Unusual Size)?
>
> --
> Mark Healey
> marknews(at)healeyonline(dot)com

C.O.U.S.'s... Personally I don't belive they exist. There's been some
roumors, around the fire swamp & all.  But the next thing you know, you'll
be believing in six fingerd men....
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Rob - 29 Dec 2004 14:19 GMT
>> Are they C.O.U.S.es (Cats Of Unusual Size)?
>>
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> roumors, around the fire swamp & all.  But the next thing you know, you'll
> be believing in six fingerd men....

ahahaha, great movie :).

> Mathew
> Butler to 2 kittens: Chablis & Muscat
> En Vino Veritas
Mary - 29 Dec 2004 15:31 GMT
> > Are they C.O.U.S.es (Cats Of Unusual Size)?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> roumors, around the fire swamp & all.  But the next thing you know, you'll
> be believing in six fingerd men....

Ohh, I see. It is like UFOs?
Priscilla Ballou - 29 Dec 2004 15:34 GMT
> > Are they C.O.U.S.es (Cats Of Unusual Size)?
> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> roumors, around the fire swamp & all.  But the next thing you know, you'll
> be believing in six fingerd men....

My cousin was born with six fingers.

Priscilla

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Suzie-Q - 29 Dec 2004 11:45 GMT
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-> Several people have independently refered to my cats as Monster cats.
-> They never seemed that big to me.  I decided to weight them by holding
-> them while I'm on the scale and then weighing myself.
->
-> One of them is 21 pounds and the other is 20.  These just regular
-> short hair cats and they aren't fat.
->
-> Are they C.O.U.S.es (Cats Of Unusual Size)?

That's a tad bigger than average. Could it be possible that
they are a breed that is bigger (maine coon, for example)?
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Paul O. - 29 Dec 2004 14:51 GMT
> Several people have independently refered to my cats as Monster cats.
> They never seemed that big to me.  I decided to weight them by holding
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> Mark Healey
> marknews(at)healeyonline(dot)com

Can you post pics to the binary group? We always like to see the kittys.
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Mary - 29 Dec 2004 15:31 GMT
> Are they C.O.U.S.es (Cats Of Unusual Size)?
>
> --

Oh Jesus, do we have a PC term for fat cats now?
KellyH - 29 Dec 2004 16:44 GMT
>> Are they C.O.U.S.es (Cats Of Unusual Size)?
>>
>> --

> Oh Jesus, do we have a PC term for fat cats now?

Calm down.  It's a play on something from a movie, The Princess Bride (great
movie, btw).  They are talking about the dangers of the forest, and one is
Rodents Of Unusual Size, or R.O.U.S es.

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Mathew Kagis - 29 Dec 2004 18:09 GMT
> > Oh Jesus, do we have a PC term for fat cats now?
>
> Calm down.  It's a play on something from a movie, The Princess Bride (great
> movie, btw).  They are talking about the dangers of the forest, and one is
> Rodents Of Unusual Size, or R.O.U.S es.

Hence my references to: the Fire Swamp & the six fingered man... all part of
the story line... Treat yourself & rent the movie from your local vid
store...It's tons of fun.

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Sherry - 31 Dec 2004 05:21 GMT
>Oh Jesus, do we have a PC term for fat cats now?

Well, yes we do. AND FYI, Buddha said to tell you he isn't fat, he's fluffy.

Sherry
Mary - 31 Dec 2004 05:23 GMT
> >Oh Jesus, do we have a PC term for fat cats now?
> >
> Well, yes we do. AND FYI, Buddha said to tell you he isn't fat, he's fluffy.

Hee! Garfield said he is not overweight he is undertall!
Kelly - 29 Dec 2004 15:44 GMT
Hi Mark,

I have a male cat who is a big boy.  He is 15 pounds and not overweight at
all.  So if your guys are about 20 lbs and you're positive that they're not
overweight, then I would definitely say that they are BIG for a cat.  Are
they related?  Where did you get them?  There are definitely certain breeds
of cats that are known to get very large, but it's not unusual to see big
cats in regular domestic strays either.  My guy is just a regular domestic
short hair orange tabby... no purebred of any sort.

Kelly

> Several people have independently refered to my cats as Monster cats.
> They never seemed that big to me.  I decided to weight them by holding
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> Mark Healey
> marknews(at)healeyonline(dot)com
Spot - 30 Dec 2004 00:11 GMT
I agree with Kelly that unless he is really over weight, and your vet would
tell you so that it seems ok.  I had a regular runt of a orange tabby grow
up to be 22 lbs at his highest.  I did over time get him slimmed down to a
modest 20.5 lbs.............:)

I now have another orange tabby (sort of partial to them) who nows weighs
17.5 and he's not fat he's just a big cat my vet says.  The first time I
took him in for his kitty exam she picked him up stretched him and grinned
and said "you got yourself another big one here.............;)"

Celest

> Hi Mark,
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> > Several people have independently refered to my cats as Monster cats.
> > They never seemed that big to me.  I decided to weight them by holding
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> > Mark Healey
> > marknews(at)healeyonline(dot)com
Cathy Friedmann - 29 Dec 2004 15:54 GMT
> Several people have independently refered to my cats as Monster cats.
> They never seemed that big to me.  I decided to weight them by holding
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>
> Are they C.O.U.S.es (Cats Of Unusual Size)?

Well, they're certainly way bigger than average!  Male Maine Coon cats are
often that big, & maybe some other breeds - or mixtures of breeds.  For a
(limited) comparison, my cats have been approx. 8, 7 - 8?, 10 -13?, & 14?
pounds.

Cathy
Zythophile - 29 Dec 2004 19:40 GMT
> Several people have independently refered to my cats as Monster cats.
> They never seemed that big to me.  I decided to weight them by holding
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Mark Healey
> marknews(at)healeyonline(dot)com

Yes, they're enormous, assuming your (US?) pounds are the same size as ours
(UK - 454 g), that  works out at a tad under 10 kg. That's about twice the
weight of an "average" puss. However, the important question is, "Are they
overweight?". That's not as easy to answer. As others have said, Maine Coon
cats can easily grow to that size without being overweight. I think
Norwegian Forest cats are a similar size. Here's the entry from
www.guinnessworldrecords.com (there's a photo on the web page);

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LEO THE MOG-NIFICENT

If Frieda Ireland's pet cat Leo were a human being he would weigh about 73kg
(160 lb) and stretch over 2.5 m (8 feet) tall. As it is, the mammoth moggie
is as long as an 8-year-old child and has paws so big they can fit into a
size 2 child's shoe!
Verismo's Leonetti Reserve Red - otherwise known as Leo - is a Maine Coon
cat owned by Frieda Ireland and Carroll Damron of Chicago. Normally a large
breed, Maine Coons often weigh as much as 10 kg (22 lb), but Leo weighs in
at a mog-nificent 15.8 kg (35 lb) and measures a record-breaking 121.9 cm
(48 in) from nose to tail - making Leo the new Guinness World Record holder
for the world's longest cat.

"We have to keep our eye on him when we're cooking," says owner Frieda,
"because he can stand up and put his paws on the kitchen counter." But Leo's
not trying to steal food. "He enjoys sweeping things off the counter, not
eating them! He's not a fan of home-cooked food - he prefers dry cat food,
green vegetables, basil, parsley and, of all things, blue cheese!"

"He's not overweight," stresses Leo's veterinarian Scott Rovner, DVM. And
Kim Lacey, who adjudicates all Guinness World Records animal claims, is
quick to point out that it's Leo's length - and not weight - that makes him
a record breaker. "We don't want to be encouraging people to fatten up their
pets just to become record breakers," she said.

So, think your cat's longer than Leo? If so, let us know!

PLEASE NOTE: Guinness World Records DO NOT accept gluttony records. DO NOT
overfeed a pet, as we do not acknowledge records for animal obesity.

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IMHO, if the cats are healthy, active and you can feel their ribs; there's
nothing much to worry about. At their next annual check up, ask your vet's
opiinion, even if only to put your mind to rest.
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---MIKE--- - 29 Dec 2004 20:10 GMT
Tiger MIGHT be a maine coon.  He has all the indications - long bushy
tail, "pantaloons", extra hair on his paws and ears, and a ruff around
his neck.  I will never know for sure since he was a shelter cat.  At
his last vet visit (June) the vet said he weighed 25 pounds and should
lose some weight.  As best I can tell (using my scales), he is 22 pounds
now. I've tried to cut down his food - only giving him half of a 5.5
ounce can twice a day (Wellness) and a small handful of dry food at noon
and bedtime.  His fur is so bushy that he looks fatter than he really
is.

                 ---MIKE---
Monique Y. Mudama - 29 Dec 2004 23:06 GMT
> IMHO, if the cats are healthy, active and you can feel their ribs; there's
> nothing much to worry about. At their next annual check up, ask your vet's
> opiinion, even if only to put your mind to rest.

At a recent vet visit, my vet explained that cats are much harder to guage
than dogs.  If you can feel a dog's ribs, you know he's doing okay in the fat
department, but you can feel the ribs of even very fat cats.  They just don't
store fat in the same places.

If the cat is active and seems okay, I'd ask at the next annual checkup.  If
you're really concerned, though, it shouldn't be too expensive to schedule an
extra checkup to have the vet take a look and discuss their feeding.

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Tracy - 29 Dec 2004 23:40 GMT
If the OP is describing them as "short-haired cats" , then they aren't
likely to be mostly Maine Coon or Norwegian Forest Cat. Those are
long-haired cats. They may well have inherited a large build from one
or another ancestor, but 20 and 21 lbs still sounds over weight to me.
I might ramp up the games and exercise somewhat and see if a few pounds
drop off that way. It does sound like they are carrying around more
than they need.
Hodge - 30 Dec 2004 03:46 GMT
> At a recent vet visit, my vet explained that cats are much harder to guage
> than dogs.  If you can feel a dog's ribs, you know he's doing okay in the fat
> department, but you can feel the ribs of even very fat cats.  They just don't
> store fat in the same places.

Take a look at the photo of me holding Hodge on his page. He's 17 lbs.
and you can tell he's way overweight.

My veterinarian has a chart that shows what cats and dogs should look
like both from top and side views, and what they look like obese,
overweight, underweight, and emaciated.
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Zythophile - 31 Dec 2004 17:14 GMT
> Several people have independently refered to my cats as Monster cats.
> They never seemed that big to me.  I decided to weight them by holding
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Mark Healey
> marknews(at)healeyonline(dot)com

I've just found this, courtesy of google;
http://www.speedyvet.com/speedyvet/tools/pdf/3517%20WALT%20FBMI%20Scoring_A4.pdf.
You might find it useful.

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