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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / January 2005Definition of a Tomcat?
What is the definition of a Tomcat?? Dusty thinks he's one, but his owner's not sure. Chris > What is the definition of a Tomcat?? > Dusty thinks he's one, but his owner's not sure. > > Chris A Tom cat is a male cat who hasn't been neutered. Cathy > What is the definition of a Tomcat?? > Dusty thinks he's one, but his owner's not sure. > > Chris A Tomcat is an unaltered male. Judy Simpy put. A male cat.  SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > What is the definition of a Tomcat?? > Dusty thinks he's one, but his owner's not sure. > > Chris >Simpy put. A male cat. Not to disagree, but... It means an unaltered male cat. >>Simpy put. A male cat. > > Not to disagree, but... It means an unaltered male cat. So what's the word for a castrated male cat? If tom refers to an entire male cat, then I'd assume that there is a word for a castrated male cat. cf stallion - gelding; bull - bullock; ram - wether; cockerel - capon; boar - hog. BTW, is there a word for a castrated dog? It's interesting that I can't think of one example when there's a different word for a female animal when she's been neutered. The only reason that I can find for this is that there's no agricultutral advantage to neutering female animals. There are words for female animals before they've reached sexual maturity eg heifer, gilt, pullet; but there are, AFAIK, no words for neutered female animals. SignatureZ 51? 37' 23" N, 3? 56' 27" W > >>Simpy put. A male cat. > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > words for female animals before they've reached sexual maturity eg heifer, > gilt, pullet; but there are, AFAIK, no words for neutered female animals. In the dictionary (Webster's Unabridged 2004), "tomcat" just means "male cat." The distinction of it meaning a sexually intact male cat only happened in Dave's mind. > > >>Simpy put. A male cat. > > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > cat." The distinction of it meaning > a sexually intact male cat only happened in Dave's mind. And the minds of lots of other people, including myself and, AFAIK, everyone I know. Tom = unaltered male is certainly what I've always been told. Priscilla Signature"It is very, very dangerous to treat any human, lowest of the low even, with contempt and arrogant whatever. The Lord takes this kind of treatment very, very personal." - QBaal in newsgroup alt.religion.christian.episcopal > > > >>Simpy put. A male cat. > > > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Priscilla Well, pile on the minds, my dear. It still just means a male cat as far as the dictionary goes. I thought Websters Unabridged was the place to go for an accurate definition. Is there a better one? If so, I'd love to know about it. > > > > >>Simpy put. A male cat. > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > the place to go for an accurate definition. Is there a better one? If so, > I'd love to know about it. The OED - Oxford English Dictionary - is probably considered to be the end all & be all of dictionaries, but considering its cost, I don't own one! Cathy > > Well, pile on the minds, my dear. It still just means a male cat > > as far as the dictionary goes. I thought Websters Unabridged was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The OED - Oxford English Dictionary - is probably considered to be the end > all & be all of dictionaries, caveat: of the English language, at any rate. Cathy I'd like to propose another definition. I have a neutered male. He was a stray and he was already neutered when he showed up. Within a month he had an infection in his tail, and then a few months later in his front leg. Both from cat fights. He used to like to go out at night and roam and challenge other male cats, both intact and neutered. My vet said, "I guess he is just a tomcat." That definition fits in my book. BTW, he it 100% indoor (still against his wishes, he howls at the windows and paws the door) now. Well any male cat would fit the definition of a tomcat. One of my cats Icarus is male and neutered but is still considered a tom. My female cats Isis and Jade are considered queens (although I call Jade more a princess and heir to the throne should anything happen to Isis. Icarus is more a prince rather than a tom) as cats are royalty. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com > I'd like to propose another definition. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > BTW, he it 100% indoor (still against his wishes, he howls at the > windows and paws the door) now. > I'd like to propose another definition. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > BTW, he it 100% indoor (still against his wishes, he howls at the > windows and paws the door) now. He is still a tomcat. He's just retired. > > Well, pile on the minds, my dear. It still just means a male cat > > as far as the dictionary goes. I thought Websters Unabridged was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The OED - Oxford English Dictionary - is probably considered to be the end > all & be all of dictionaries, but considering its cost, I don't own one! Pffft, nobody owns them but libraries that can hire a forklift to move them! However, I will look in the one at my library this week and report back. :) >> > Well, pile on the minds, my dear. It still just means a male cat >> > as far as the dictionary goes. I thought Websters Unabridged was [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > to move them! However, I will look in the one at my library > this week and report back. :) It's *the* authority in Britain and NZ. Probably not so over there in the States because, as everyone knows, you don't speak English ;-) > >> > Well, pile on the minds, my dear. It still just means a male cat > >> > as far as the dictionary goes. I thought Websters Unabridged was [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > It's *the* authority in Britain and NZ. Probably not so over there in the > States because, as everyone knows, you don't speak English ;-) Wahahaha! Ask a Londoner if NZlanders speak English! > Wahahaha! Ask a Londoner if NZlanders speak English! We do - just without the vowels ;-) > > Wahahaha! Ask a Londoner if NZlanders speak English! > > We do - just without the vowels ;-) Hee! I love the differences in the spoken English language. I hope all this "globalization" does not do away with the regional differences--even the ones just within a certain country. Adds color! >> Wahahaha! Ask a Londoner if NZlanders speak English! > > We do - just without the vowels ;-) Hmm, lwys wndrd bt tht... snip >> In the dictionary (Webster's Unabridged 2004), "tomcat" just means "male >> cat." The distinction of it meaning [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >everyone I know. Tom = unaltered male is certainly what I've always >been told. All the sources I can find say something like "male domestic cat", and we've always referred to our Smudge as a "neutered tom". Toms with their bits get called "entire" round here. Jim > snip > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > always referred to our Smudge as a "neutered tom". Toms with their bits get > called "entire" round here. Is that "bits" as in "nasty bits?" :) I refer to cats as males and females, or toms and females, or boys and girls, regardless of the state of their reproductive organs. If there is a need to go into all that I use the word "intact." > In the dictionary (Webster's Unabridged 2004), "tomcat" just means "male > cat." The distinction of it meaning > a sexually intact male cat only happened in Dave's mind. Technically that may be correct, but in common usage we tend to refer to "a neutered tom" or "a tom". The term tom, without the modifier, is generally taken to mean an entire male. >> In the dictionary (Webster's Unabridged 2004), "tomcat" just means "male >> cat." The distinction of it meaning [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > "a neutered tom" or "a tom". The term tom, without the modifier, is > generally taken to mean an entire male. Are you American? I wonder if this is one of those transatlantic differences in language usage. I'm a Brit and to me the word "tom" doesn't indicate to me whether puss still has his Jacob's or not. SignatureZ 51? 37' 23" N, 3? 56' 27" W >>> In the dictionary (Webster's Unabridged 2004), "tomcat" just means "male >>> cat." The distinction of it meaning [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > differences in language usage. I'm a Brit and to me the word "tom" doesn't > indicate to me whether puss still has his Jacob's or not. No, New Zealand, where much closer to you in usage, especially as most of us have spent at least two years of our lives in Britain! It's been more than 10 years since I returned from my 6.5-year sojourn, but my memory is that's fairly common British usage as well. I'm a Brit and to me the word "tom" doesn't indicate to > me whether puss still has his Jacob's or not. His Jacobs! That's a new one to me! > I'm a Brit and to me the word "tom" doesn't indicate to >> me whether puss still has his Jacob's or not. > > His Jacobs! That's a new one to me! Rhyming slang - "Jacob's Cream Crackers". I must admit, I hadn't heard it before watching Joe Pasquale on "I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here!" Before you say it - yes I do need to get out more! SignatureZ 51? 37' 23" N, 3? 56' 27" W > > I'm a Brit and to me the word "tom" doesn't indicate to > >> me whether puss still has his Jacob's or not. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Rhyming slang - "Jacob's Cream Crackers". I must admit, I hadn't heard it > before watching Joe Pasquale on "I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here!" That's funny. > Before you say it - yes I do need to get out more! Ha! So do I! >> > I'm a Brit and to me the word "tom" doesn't indicate to >> >> me whether puss still has his Jacob's or not. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Ha! So do I! I suspect that we've really confused the Americans! > > I'm a Brit and to me the word "tom" doesn't indicate to > >> me whether puss still has his Jacob's or not. > > > > His Jacobs! That's a new one to me! > > Rhyming slang - "Jacob's Cream Crackers". Crackers/knackers?? Cathy I must admit, I hadn't heard it > before watching Joe Pasquale on "I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here!" > > Before you say it - yes I do need to get out more! >> > I'm a Brit and to me the word "tom" doesn't indicate to >> >> me whether puss still has his Jacob's or not. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Crackers/knackers?? Yup. > >> > I'm a Brit and to me the word "tom" doesn't indicate to > >> >> me whether puss still has his Jacob's or not. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Yup. Hee. I knew this. This is Cockney-type slang, innit? > Rhyming slang - "Jacob's Cream Crackers". I must admit, I hadn't heard it > before watching Joe Pasquale on "I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here!" > > Before you say it - yes I do need to get out more! Jacob's cream crackers i.e. his knackers, you're not cockney, then<G> I couldn't watch I'm a celebrity because I felt sorry for the rats and I don't mean Paul Burrell! Alison > Are you American? I wonder if this is one of those transatlantic differences > in language usage. I'm a Brit and to me the word "tom" doesn't indicate to > me whether puss still has his Jacob's or not. I'm English and the word Tom to me means a male cat still has his meat and two veg-:) Alison >> Are you American? I wonder if this is one of those transatlantic > differences [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > meat and two veg-:) > Alison So what would you call a male cat sans viande et deux legumes? >>> Are you American? I wonder if this is one of those transatlantic >> differences [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> > So what would you call a male cat sans viande et deux legumes? Oops, a castrated moggie still has his viande. It's the deux legumes that are missing! >> > So what would you call a male cat sans viande et deux legumes? > Oops, a castrated moggie still has his viande. It's the deux legumes that > are missing! BG, A neuter or neutered cat and a female would be a spay/spey or spayed cat. The word spay or neuter defines the sex of the cat. These terms tend to be used in rescues etc. I would take a guess and say neutering/spaying cats is a much more recent thing than castrating farm animals and horses and maybe seperate words haven't developed yet or maybe there is no need for them. It's an interesting question and I'm going to ask around on forums to see what comes up! Alison > >> > So what would you call a male cat sans viande et deux legumes? > > Oops, a castrated moggie still has his viande. It's the deux legumes [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I would take a guess and say neutering/spaying cats is a much more > recent thing than castrating farm animals and horses I would definitely be willing to bet on that one. and maybe > seperate words haven't developed yet or maybe there is no need for > them. Maybe. Cathy > It's an interesting question and I'm going to ask around on forums to > see what comes up! > Alison . > The word spay or neuter defines the sex of the cat. FWIW, I'd say that use of the word "spay" defines a female cat. "Neuter" , to me, is gender neutral, it can refer to spaying a female cat or castrating a tom cat. Castration obviously refers to a tom cat. I suppose it would be possible to give a tom cat a vasectomy. He wouldn't be siring kittens all over the place, but would still be spraying and fighting. > I would take a guess and say neutering/spaying cats is a much more > recent thing than castrating farm animals and horses I think this is true. I suspect that most farm animals were domesticated before cats. In fact, I'd suggest that cats aren't actually domesticated. they are wild animals that take advantage of our soppiness. > and maybe > seperate words haven't developed yet IMHO, that's highly likely. > or maybe there is no need for > them. If we can agree that a tom is a tom with or without his two veg, then i'd agree that there's no need for a separate word. > It's an interesting question and I'm going to ask around on forums to > see what comes up! > Alison Let me know what you find. SignatureZ 51? 37' 23" N, 3? 56' 27" W >> The word spay or neuter defines the sex of the cat. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > possible to give a tom cat a vasectomy. He wouldn't be siring kittens all > over the place, but would still be spraying and fighting. I agree with you when considering the literal meaning of the word "neuter" (outside of catty things), but I would never say that my female cat was neutered. In fact, I brought my cat in to be neutered, thinking she was a boy, and they called me to say, "We can't neuter your cat; she's a girl!" So ... um, whatever that means. I'm in the US btw. Signaturemonique, who is sometimes allowed to pet Oscar, a grey^H^H^H^Hblue-cream DLH with an attitude! > >> The word spay or neuter defines the sex of the cat. > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > So ... um, whatever that means. I'm in the US btw. When women have complete hysterectomies are they no longer female? Such distinctions make no sense. > When women have complete hysterectomies are they no longer female? Such > distinctions make no sense. And boy am I careful about that kind of statement! I remember watching Puma (dog, RB) in a convertible while dad ran into the store. A woman in the parking lot asked if Puma was a boy or a girl. Mimicking what I'd heard others say, I said something to the effect that he was "sort of" a boy, since he'd been neutered. Well, the lady replied that she had had a hysterectomy, and certainly still considered herself fully a woman! Well, I still feel bad for that comment, and it certainly taught me a valuable lesson. I wouldn't say anything like that, ever again. The worst is, I didn't even really mean it -- it was just one of those jokes I'd heard over and over again, and I thought it was the cool, adult thing to say! Signaturemonique, who is sometimes allowed to pet Oscar, a grey^H^H^H^Hblue-cream DLH with an attitude! > . > > The word spay or neuter defines the sex of the cat. > > FWIW, I'd say that use of the word "spay" defines a female cat. "Neuter" , > to me, is gender neutral, it can refer to spaying a female cat or castrating > a tom cat. Castration obviously refers to a tom cat. Nope. Castration also means removal of the ovaries. Gonadectomy is also used for neutering either sex. Orchiectomy (or as you Brits say "orchidectomy") is the most accurate (and seldom used) term for male neuters, and ovariectomy ( removal of the ovaries) and ovariohysterectomy (removal of ovaries and uterus) for female neuters. Spay & neuter are the simplest and least confusing terms. > . >> The word spay or neuter defines the sex of the cat. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > it would be possible to give a tom cat a vasectomy. He wouldn't be siring > kittens all over the place, but would still be spraying and fighting. How about catrati, or castcati? ;-) > > . > >> The word spay or neuter defines the sex of the cat. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > How about catrati, or castcati? ;-) I think the Catrati would have to be able to sing very high. :) > I think the Catrati would have to be able to sing very high. :) I'm sure there are parts in Cats for him :-) > > I think the Catrati would have to be able to sing very high. :) > > I'm sure there are parts in Cats for him :-) Well, yes, I suppose that is true. And it would eliminate the need for singing in Italian. ;) > >> Are you American? I wonder if this is one of those transatlantic > > differences [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > > So what would you call a male cat sans viande et deux legumes? This is the catch - I don't think there is a specific term. Cathy > > >> Are you American? I wonder if this is one of those transatlantic > > > differences [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Cathy But you're right, re: other post - avec viande, sans legumes - I didn't catch that! > > In the dictionary (Webster's Unabridged 2004), "tomcat" just means "male > > cat." The distinction of it meaning [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > neutered tom" or "a tom". The term tom, without the modifier, is generally > taken to mean an entire male. What do you mean "we?" I don't. >> > In the dictionary (Webster's Unabridged 2004), "tomcat" just means >> > "male [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > What do you mean "we?" I don't. I mean people I know, New Zealanders. > >> > In the dictionary (Webster's Unabridged 2004), "tomcat" just means > >> > "male [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > I mean people I know, New Zealanders. And people in the US. Priscilla Signature"It is very, very dangerous to treat any human, lowest of the low even, with contempt and arrogant whatever. The Lord takes this kind of treatment very, very personal." - QBaal in newsgroup alt.religion.christian.episcopal > > >> > In the dictionary (Webster's Unabridged 2004), "tomcat" just means > > >> > "male [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Priscilla Pfft! So Priscilla speaks for everyone in the US? I don't think so. Technically? I am not sure you can say that since it is a firm definition. Even dictionary.com states that a tomcat is a male cat. This covers things whether the cat has been neutered or not. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com "Ashley" <ashleyjaneNOSPAM@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message news:HlDzd.2672> Technically that may be correct, but in common usage we tend to refer to "a > neutered tom" or "a tom". The term tom, without the modifier, is generally > taken to mean an entire male. > > >>Simpy put. A male cat. > > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > cat." The distinction of it meaning > a sexually intact male cat only happened in Dave's mind. No, 'cause it was in my mind - & post, too. I don't know if there *is* a term for a neutered male cat, as there is for a horse. Cathy > > > >>Simpy put. A male cat. > > > > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > No, 'cause it was in my mind - & post, too. I don't know if there *is* a > term for a neutered male cat, as there is for a horse. Well, okay, just add your mind to that pile over there--> <------------------------- Mine is on this pile here, for whom a tomcat is a cat born with testicles and accoutrements regardless of whether he still has them. > > > > >>Simpy put. A male cat. > > > > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Well, okay, just add your mind to that pile over there--> I already did. ;-P Cathy > <------------------------- Mine is on this pile here, > for whom a tomcat is a cat born with > testicles and accoutrements regardless of whether > he still has them. Stop! Argue no more. I own an OED. From the OED ============================== tom cat "In 1760 was published an anonymous work 'The Life and Adventures of a Cat' which became very popular. The hero, a male or ram cat, bore the name of Tom, and is commonly mentioned as "Tom the Cat" as "Tybert the Cat" in Caxton's "Reynard the Fox." Thus Tom became a favourite allusive name for a male cat..." A male cat. ========================== The above is literally from the OED. There is no inference of unneutered, so both neutered and unneutered are properly Toms. It would seem that before Tom superseded it, the word for male cat was "ram." The mention of Tybert made me wonder about the derivation of tabby. Turns out "tabby" was a kind of cloth. I wonder if "The Life and Adventures of a Cat" is available. Might be interesting to read. Dick. > Stop! Argue no more. > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Dick. I WIN I WIN I WIN!!!!!! Erm, what exactly did I win, anyway? I have to disagree on this one. Just because a male cat gets neutered doesn't mean the title has to change. A tomcat is a male cat. Even the dictionary states the definition as such. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com "Dave" <somecalgaryguy@gmail.com> wrote in message > Not to disagree, but... It means an unaltered male cat. > I have to disagree on this one. Just because a male cat gets neutered > doesn't mean the title has to change. A tomcat is a male cat. Even the > dictionary states the definition as such. If an entire female cat is a queen, why isn't an entire male a King? -:) Alison >> I have to disagree on this one. Just because a male cat gets > neutered [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > King? -:) > Alison CP is a yank. They don't like Kings - especially ones called George! <grins, ducks and runs away very quickly > >> I have to disagree on this one. Just because a male cat gets > > neutered [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > CP is a yank. They don't like Kings - especially ones called George! <grins, > ducks and runs away very quickly> Fits in w/ another couple of posts, since IIRC, George was crackers. ;-) Cathy >> >> I have to disagree on this one. Just because a male cat gets >> > neutered [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Cathy We should be in a rec.pets.dogs news-group 'cos he was barking!!! > >> I have to disagree on this one. Just because a male cat gets > > neutered [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > CP is a yank. They don't like Kings - especially ones called George! <grins, > ducks and runs away very quickly> George was great! He let 13 rag-tag colonies kick his dumb Limey a.s --- *twice*. LOL! He wasn't too bright - couldn't read till he was 11-12. LOL! Limeys weren't too crazy about kings, either... especially ones called Charles. > George was great! He let 13 rag-tag colonies kick his dumb Limey a.s --- > *twice*. LOL! He wasn't too bright - couldn't read till he was 11-12. > LOL! Yeah but he had a physical illness that caused his mental problems. What's Dubya's excuse? <beg> He can't be that dumb though; he got elected President twice! heh heh-:) Alison PS You owe us millions in tea tax. Pay by the end of the year and we'll forget the interest. LOL > > George was great! He let 13 rag-tag colonies kick his dumb Limey > a.s --- [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > Yeah but he had a physical illness that caused his mental problems. I know. He was British. LOL! ;-) > What's Dubya's excuse? <beg> He can't be that dumb though; he got > elected President twice! heh heh-:) I'd rather have a guy like Dubya in the WH than a slick-talking, double-dealing politician, any day. > Alison > PS You owe us millions in tea tax. Pay by the end of the year and > we'll forget the interest. LOL Try to collect it --- We'll make it 0-3. LOL! ;-) OTOH, deduct it from all the billions we saved you in printing! The OED could've been the Oxford German Dictionary. ;-). Phil >> What's Dubya's excuse? <beg> He can't be that dumb though; he got elected >> President twice! heh heh-:) > > I'd rather have a guy like Dubya in the WH than a slick-talking, > double-dealing politician, any day. Funny, that's exactly how I'd describe him. Okay, I'm not going there. Okay, maybe I did. But I'm not staying! Signaturemonique, who is sometimes allowed to pet Oscar, a grey^H^H^H^Hblue-cream DLH with an attitude! > >> What's Dubya's excuse? <beg> He can't be that dumb though; he got elected > >> President twice! heh heh-:) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Okay, I'm not going there. Okay, maybe I did. But I'm not staying! I'm liking you more every minute. :) > I'm liking you more every minute. :) I'm trying *really* hard not to get into politics here. It's the best way to lose friends, especially right now when views are so polarized. So I apologize for saying anything, fun as it was. Signaturemonique, who is sometimes allowed to pet Oscar, a grey^H^H^H^Hblue-cream DLH with an attitude! > > I'm liking you more every minute. :) > > I'm trying *really* hard not to get into politics here. It's the best way to > lose friends, especially right now when views are so polarized. So I > apologize for saying anything, fun as it was. You're right, of course. Polarization, big time. People will either defend GWB to the hilt, or else can't stand his leadership. Personally, I often refer to him as Shrub - that may give you some idea was to which side of the fence I'm on. <g> Cathy > > > I'm liking you more every minute. :) > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Cathy I've always liked you, Cathy. :) > > I'm liking you more every minute. :) > > I'm trying *really* hard not to get into politics here. It's the best way to > lose friends, especially right now when views are so polarized. So I > apologize for saying anything, fun as it was. Don't worry about it. Bush isn't a relative or a friend - so I don't care what you call him. > > I'd rather have a guy like Dubya in the WH than a slick-talking, > > double-dealing politician, any day. > > Funny, that's exactly how I'd describe him. That's how I'd describe our Prime Minister:) Alison > > > I'd rather have a guy like Dubya in the WH than a slick-talking, > > > double-dealing politician, any day. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > That's how I'd describe our Prime Minister:) > Alison I was waiting for someone from the UK to say that. ;-) How the people here who are none too fond of GWB, seems to correlate w/ how many of the British feel about T. Blair. (Otoh, TB *has* to be better versed in the spoken English language than GWB - there's nowhere to go, but up!) Cathy > > I have to disagree on this one. Just because a male cat gets > neutered [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > King? -:) > Alison Good question. ;-) Except, isn't an entire female cat a queen only when she has kittens? Cathy Who says they aren't a king? Cats are a royalty after all. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com "Alison" <alison@XYZallofus2.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message news:cqng65> If an entire female cat is a queen, why isn't an entire male a > King? -:) > Alison > Who says they aren't a king? Cats are a royalty after all. Why give them limits? The ancient Egyptians considered cats to be deities. My cats think the Egyptians knew a thing or two :-) SignatureZ 51? 37' 23" N, 3? 56' 27" W > What is the definition of a Tomcat?? > Dusty thinks he's one, but his owner's not sure. > > Chris Intact male. Intact female is a Queen. |
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