Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / December 2004
prevention: good exercise/play/entertainment
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John Doe - 18 Dec 2004 15:17 GMT On December 7, I bought a canister of helium and some mylar balloons, filled two of them and attached a nylon string which hangs 1 or 2 feet above the floor. The first pair of balloons is mostly deflated but still holding up. My male cat is still playing with the string. Apparently it is a good self motivating activity, which probably can be enhanced somehow. The balloons already filled with helium can be purchased from party city for one US dollar each. That's two dollars for 10 days.
Another nonstandard form of entertainment I have found is an external microphone. The easiest implementation is in the form of an inexpensive infant room monitor (results may very, monitors are hit and miss depending on your environment). You place the receiver outside the door or window. My cats don't say "thank you" or "that's great" but over the years, clearly they enjoy hearing sounds from the great outdoors, exercising their ears. I wouldn't leave home without giving them at least that much stimulation. I call it "kitty radio".
Take care.
Sherry - 18 Dec 2004 16:47 GMT >On December 7, I bought a canister of helium and some mylar balloons, >filled two of them and attached a nylon string which hangs 1 or 2 feet I hate to sound like a wet blanket, but be really careful with string. I got a bouquet with a mylar ballon for my 31st anniversary (happy anniversary to me) on Dec. 7, and the cats got pretty wild with it. I can see some serious tangling/eating of the ribbon if they're alone with it.
Sherry
John Doe - 18 Dec 2004 18:53 GMT >>On December 7, I bought a canister of helium and some mylar >>balloons, filled two of them and attached a nylon string which >>hangs 1 or 2 feet
>... be really careful with string... I can see some serious >tangling/eating of the ribbon if they're alone with it. I will let you know if anything bad happens.
>Sherry Charlotte Dunne - 19 Dec 2004 15:22 GMT > I will let you know if anything bad happens. My cat Beck cost me $1200 in vet bills after eating a shoelace. Luckily my sister noticed it was missing almost immediately so we got a jump start on treatment, but still $1200 and resectioning his intestines wasn't any fun.
OTOH my sisters cat could play with a ribbon all day and never think about eating it. But you can bet that's been banned after what happened to Beck.
YMMV, Charlotte Remove the kitty to reply
John Doe - 19 Dec 2004 18:51 GMT Cats should not be allowed to play with string?
Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!
And now we enter the dark side, where you can hear anything which diverts attention from the subject and brings attention to the reply author. Everything bad is possible, and the most absurd experiences emerge.
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>YMMV, Charlotte >Remove the kitty to reply Mary - 19 Dec 2004 18:57 GMT > Cats should not be allowed to play with string? > > Lions and tigers and bears, oh my! Well for Christ's sake, they can play with the string if you are at the other end of it and pick it the F up after the play. Otherwise it can KILL them if they ingest it. Lions and tigers and bears my a.s.
Sherry - 19 Dec 2004 20:50 GMT >> Cats should not be allowed to play with string? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >after the play. Otherwise it can KILL them if they ingest >it. Lions and tigers and bears my a.s. Pretty much my reply. And for God's sakes, all I was telling the guy was *I* had a near-miss experience with my cats re: helium balloon ribbon. I usually pay attention when someone else offers a warning. Mostly because I'm smart enough to realize my cats aren't immune from danger and I care about them. In FACT, I always appreciate a heads-up. a.shole.
Sherry
Mary - 19 Dec 2004 21:50 GMT > >> Cats should not be allowed to play with string? > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Sherry And having said and read all that, a very Merry Christmas to us! lol!!
P.S.--I was out of town for a couple of days and called my husband the second day and asked to speek to Cheeks. (I make him hold the phone up so she can hear me, honest to God.) He said "well how funny you should call, because I can't FIND her." I made him tear the house apart, you know, "Are you sure you didn't leave the door open? Did you check the Closet?" The little weasel had torn away all the heavy-duty packing tape from the hole behind the washer and gotten out UNDER the house. In the cold. In the dirt. (I am not sure if she can actually get OUT out from there-- either she can't or she has never found an escape route.) Thankfully she came back in, but not until 1 am. I had a few sleepless hours hundreds of miles from home. Kids! ;O)
John Doe - 20 Dec 2004 00:16 GMT Troll.
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Mary - 20 Dec 2004 00:48 GMT > > Troll. > > You are the one posting under "John Doe" that has never been seen around > here. Both Mary and Sherry are long time posters. His headers are altered, too, using a hexedit program. Nothing twollish about that. ;)
John Doe - 20 Dec 2004 00:01 GMT Troll.
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> >Subject: Re: prevention: good exercise/play/entertainment > >Lines: 14 [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >after the play. Otherwise it can KILL them if they ingest > >it. Lions and tigers and bears my a.s. That's so cute. Johnny learned to find headers. And munge his.
:) Charlotte Dunne - 19 Dec 2004 21:39 GMT > Cats should not be allowed to play with string? Like many people, I grew up thinking a string was one of the greatest cat toys out there. Unfortunately I dont have another $1200 for the next time he opens a draw and helps himself to one, so no strings enter my house.
Some people can learn lessons from others mistakes, some have to learn the hard way themselves.
Your money, your cats, do what you like.
John Doe - 20 Dec 2004 00:16 GMT Keeping your cat in a box would be the ultimate protection.
I am confident there are many hazards worse than a string attached to a helium balloon (actually, two balloons). Your experience is different and, however you want to interpret it, does not mean all play with string is bad.
So far, Kitty very much enjoys playing with a string attached to helium balloons, and it is good exercise.
Anyone is invited to look me up later to see whether I'm still going to the trouble to provide him that much self motivated exercise/entertainment. Feel free to interrupt me at any time in any group to ask.
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> I am confident there are many hazards worse than a string attached > to a helium balloon (actually, two balloons). Your experience is > different and, however you want to interpret it, does not mean all > play with string is bad. Nope, but since my cat will instantly try to eat one, I wont risk it. At least with a balloon, the string is not lying around for them to chew on at their pleasure. As I said, some cats would never dream of eating it... unfortunately, the first i knew of eating was when he vomited up pieces of it. Surgery was the next day.
> So far, Kitty very much enjoys playing with a string attached to > helium balloons, and it is good exercise. Exercise for an indoor cat is extremely important. I use laser pointers, feathers on sticks, furry mice (which they play fetch with), and then they entertain themselves playing chase. I did use strings and hair ribbons. I'm sure there are cats out there that have choked to death on furry mice, brained themselves against a wall chasing a laser pointer, or suffocated on feathers... luckily my cats dont do that (or should I say, haven't done that yet). The point of my posting was that I, too, grew up thinking strings were the ultimate cat toy, and I nearly lost my cat because of it. Simply a cautionary tale to file under the "who'd of thunk" category.
KellyH - 19 Dec 2004 22:41 GMT > Cats should not be allowed to play with string? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > author. Everything bad is possible, and the most absurd experiences > emerge. Well, my cat Argyle (RB) only lived 3 short years because he injested some plastic or nylon string. We have no idea how he got a hold of it. The string wrapped around his intestines and a portion had to be removed, but he died anyway due to infection :-( I was about 16 at the time, so I don't know all the details. Also, my cat Dash (RB) used to eat that type of ribbon you use to wrap presents or is on balloons. I would find it shredded and then later in vomit around the house. I banned it from my house after a couple of these episodes.
There are so many other safe cat toys that will serve the same purpose, I don't know why you would want to risk it.
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John Doe - 20 Dec 2004 00:27 GMT >"John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.is.the.real.thing> wrote in message
>> Cats should not be allowed to play with string?
>There are so many other safe cat toys that will serve the same >purpose, I don't know why you would want to risk it. All string in every situation? String is forever banned as something for cats to play with? What if I'm holding on to the string while playing with the cat?
Since there's nothing left of my original post down here, your reply is difficult (for me) to put in context.
KellyH - 20 Dec 2004 00:48 GMT > Since there's nothing left of my original post down here, your reply > is difficult (for me) to put in context. I was not replying to your original post. I copied posted under what I was replying to. That is the proper way to respond to a post. Don't know what's so difficult about that.
> All string in every situation? String is forever banned as something > for cats to play with? What if I'm holding on to the string while > playing with the cat? No, not "all string in every situation", but just be careful. I was just saying there are better options than string.
 Signature -Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net "Wake up, and smell the cat food" -TMBG
Gee - 19 Dec 2004 14:45 GMT "John Doe" <jdoe@usenet.is.the.real.thing> wrote in message
> Another nonstandard form of entertainment I have found is an external > microphone. The easiest implementation is in the form of an inexpensive [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Take care. What a great idea :) Love it :)
John Doe - 20 Dec 2004 16:23 GMT >What a great idea :) Love it :) Yea. If you have any trouble setting it up (the infant room monitors are picky depending on one's environment), please feel free to ask for help. My MSN Messenger ID is lshaping hotmail com.
Someday, I would like to find a room monitor which has an earphone output jack, so I could easily plug it into a powered computer speaker set. There is a huge difference in sound quality that way.
Good luck. Take care.
John Doe - 26 Dec 2004 05:38 GMT >On December 7, I bought a canister of helium and some mylar >balloons, filled two of them and attached a nylon string which >hangs 1 or 2 feet above the floor. ... My male cat is still playing >with the string. Apparently it is a good self motivating activity, As of December 25, Christmas Day, with the balloon/string continuously available, the level of activity/play has dwindled to not enough IMO.
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Mary - 26 Dec 2004 17:36 GMT > >On December 7, I bought a canister of helium and some mylar > >balloons, filled two of them and attached a nylon string which [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > As of December 25, Christmas Day, with the balloon/string continuously > available, the level of activity/play has dwindled to not enough IMO. What a happy accident for your cats you irresponsible moron.
mtreuil@ebrschools.org - 27 Dec 2004 17:51 GMT Why do discussions where people disagree have to denegrate to name calling? What purpose does is serve to call anyone a moron whether they are one or not?
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