So, Thursday we notice that Hakaisha is walking with a strange
hitch-skip on his left hind leg. We decide to keep an eye on it, as
it's possible he'd pulled a muscle being a Stupid Kitten. Over the
weekend it gets a little better, but we start realising that he's
never really been 'normal' -- not as active and jump-around-y as we
think of kittens being. We'd never worried about it because we simply
assumed that since moggies =! Bengals, moggy kittens!= Bengal kittens.
However, his gait is concerning me, as is the fact that he does some
strange things, like sit down in a certain way a lot and he doesn't
'loaf' up any more.
Today I take him to his vet. Exam, X-rays, more exams.
To make a long story short, Hakaisha has Grade 4 luxated
patellas in BOTH his hind legs, with the left being the worst off of
the two. At five months of age. This is practically unheard of at
this age. The only fix is surgical, and it can't be done until he's a
year old and his growth plactes have closed. And I have no idea how
we're going to pay for his Cosequin and glucosamine shots every fifth
day until he can undergo surgery, and I have no idea how we're going
to handle the cost of the surgery. :(
But we're doing it anyway. We love him. We'll figure it out.
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ceb - 13 Dec 2004 20:55 GMT
> To make a long story short, Hakaisha has Grade 4 luxated
> patellas in BOTH his hind legs, with the left being the worst off of
> the two. At five months of age.
Oh no! I'm very sorry to hear this.
It does sound like a fixable problem, though, so that's something. But
still very upsetting for you and the kitty.
--Catherine
& Rosalie the calicohead
zuzu22@webtv.net - 13 Dec 2004 22:25 GMT
<snip story about kitten with luxated patella issues and worries about
the cost of treatment using injectables>
Get a prescription for Adequan (it's not licensed for cats but the dog
version is what is used), buy a bottle, have your vet teach you to do
Intramuscular injections and do the injections yourself at home. It is
VERY cheap to do it this way, and the injections are easy once you get
the hang of it. You just have to remember that, unlike subq injections,
you have to draw back on the syringe and make sure you don't pull up
blood (which would mean you've gone into a vein.)
I have a rescue named Nubbins that had an untreated broken leg and was
suffering greatly with the resulting way the bone grew back together and
the severe arthritis that followed:
http://community.webtv.net/zuzu22/nubbinsxray
He's doing great on Adequan and I also supplement with a product called
Recovery. I've seen incredible improvement and will stay with this
protocol until the time comes when the arthritis overwhelms the
treatment and pain meds and he'll have to have is leg amputated. You can
order both from http://www.smartpakequine.com which is a reputable
company. You have to be careful about some online places as you may not
get "real" Adequan.
The protocol is twice a week for four weeks (I did mine on Monday
mornings and Thursday evenings so the time was exactly the same between
shots) then taper off. Some vets say after the initial series to go
every 6 months, some say 3, there's no perfect rule and honestly, most
vets just aren't that familiar with treating cats and often prescribe a
lower dose than what is actually needed. I've done exhaustive research
and talked to the company that makes it and the correct dose for cats
should be exactly what is given to dogs which is 2 mg per pound of body
weight and the injection MUST be done IM. A 5 ml vial is $100 or less
depending on where you get it, and at 100 mg/ml it and a box of 100
syringes averaging at $10-$15 it will cost you very little per month and
last a very long time.
Nubbins gets .24 mls per injection, has had the 4 week series and two
consequent injections and I still have half a bottle left. If I did two
injections a month, which I probably won't, this bottle would last me 5
more months which for me averages out to about $10 a month (I got my
bottle for $80 from a vet I work for) and with your kitten the cost will
be a lot less.
My view is you do a maintenance injection when you think it's needed,
even if it means every few weeks. Since I've given Nubbins his month
long series of injections, and two since that two weeks apart, he's been
doing very well so I'm going for three weeks this time and will then
assess if I think he needs another injection. There is no toxicity for
this drug and the only concern "may" be reduced blood clotting ability,
but I don't see that as a big issue if you do maintenance shots every
2-3 weeks or longer. Choosing when to do a maintenance injection is one
of those things where you have to go with your gut and how you know your
cat is.
It has been shown that puppies with hip dysplasia that have been treated
with Adequan at a young age have shown significant improvement over dogs
that are treated when older. There is a reference to that paper here
(click on "treatment for
chd"): http://www.vetinfo.com/ddyspla.html
Megan

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Orchid - 13 Dec 2004 22:56 GMT
><snip story about kitten with luxated patella issues and worries about
>the cost of treatment using injectables>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>you have to draw back on the syringe and make sure you don't pull up
>blood (which would mean you've gone into a vein.)
That's the name of the injection he's getting. I couldn't
think of it earlier. :) My vet is *very* good -- as soon as she saw
the radiographs she said 'We need to get him started on Adequan --
it's an off-label use but we've seen wonderful results in cats'.
>The protocol is twice a week for four weeks (I did mine on Monday
>mornings and Thursday evenings so the time was exactly the same between
>shots) then taper off. Some vets say after the initial series to go
>every 6 months, some say 3, there's no perfect rule and honestly, most
>vets just aren't that familiar with treating cats and often prescribe a
>lower dose than what is actually needed.
Hakkai is only 3.6 pounds and he's getting .03 mL every five
days. I'll talk to her about doing it myself at home -- she's really
understanding when it comes to money worries.
Thanks for the suggestion -- my primary goal is getting him to
surgery time with as little arthritis as possible. :)
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zuzu22@webtv.net - 13 Dec 2004 23:56 GMT
>Hakkai is only 3.6 pounds and he's
>getting .03 mL every five days
That dose is less than half of what Hakkai should be getting and will
not do enough. He should be gettng at least .07 ml, and it should be
done every 3.5 days. This is the protocol directly from Luitpold (the
manufacturer).
Megan

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Mary - 13 Dec 2004 22:29 GMT
"Orchid" <neko@ascendancy.net> wrote in message :
>We'd never worried about it because we simply
> assumed that since moggies =! Bengals, moggy kittens!= Bengal kittens.
Can you exlain this assumption a little better? I don't understand
what you're getting at.
Orchid - 13 Dec 2004 22:51 GMT
>"Orchid" <neko@ascendancy.net> wrote in message :
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Can you exlain this assumption a little better? I don't understand
>what you're getting at.
Sorry. :) Bengals are very active cats. Very very very very
very very very very active cats. When the boys were kittens they were
blurs of catness streaking around the house, they'd fall over and
sleep like the dead, and then resume blurriness. At two and change
they really haven't slowed down at all. Every two year old moggy I've
ever known has been much more sedate than the boys, and so we assumed
that moggy kittens would probably be less blurs-of-activity than
Bengal kittens. Our vet agreed that Hakaisha would be less frenetic
than Kefka and Temujin were if he were normal, but he's much less
frenetic than a moggy kitten should be.
We are kind of kicking ourselves, but she says that his size
has a lot to do with us not noticing the problem until now too --
Hakaisha was the starving kitten we found and he had a lot of worms so
we were struggling to get weight on him for a long time. Now that
we've finally got some weight on him (still only 3.6 pounds) he's
having more trouble simply because he's heavier -- enough trouble that
we were able to spot it.
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Mary - 13 Dec 2004 23:00 GMT
> Bengals are very active cats. Very very very very
> very very very very active cats. When the boys were kittens they were
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> that moggy kittens would probably be less blurs-of-activity than
> Bengal kittens.
I see, now I understand. Thank you. I'm really sorry your Hakaisha needs
surgery, and glad you're there to help him.
zuzu22@webtv.net - 13 Dec 2004 22:33 GMT
One more thing, you can buy a 4 pack of Cosequin (80 caps per pkg)
online for $55.80 here (about $15.50 per box after shipping which is
much cheaper than what vets charge):
http://vetmeddirect.com/Arthritis-Joint-Care-Cosequin.php?sid=dmWFtQkBGUfkY:3522
219325
You have to scroll down a ways.
Megan

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kaeli - 14 Dec 2004 14:49 GMT
> To make a long story short, Hakaisha has Grade 4 luxated
> patellas in BOTH his hind legs, with the left being the worst off of
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> But we're doing it anyway. We love him. We'll figure it out.
Aw, I'm sorry to hear about that. Thank goodness he has you!
As to affording the surgery, you might consider setting up a special website
(or adding a page to your existing one) and asking for donations...
Have you talked to your vet about payment plans? Our clinic has it's own
credit line for people who need it. You do have to apply and get approved,
but it's a good thing to have for people who don't have credit cards or don't
have a high enough limit on them to charge the bill.

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