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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / December 2004Weight loss: Tucker's half way there!
Some of you might remember my Tucker, whom I've had on a diet of canned Wellness since late August. I'm thrilled to report that he's more than halfway there! As of Dec. 10, he weighed 18 lb 2 oz (down from his original 21 lbs). I can tell the difference in his profile, and he seems more energetic. Here's a photo gallery of his progress: http://community-2.webtv.net/getcathelp/tuckerpics/ I still need to get up a pic of the latest weight (don't have a digital camera), but still, you can really notice a difference even at 19 lbs. Hooray! Rene > Some of you might remember my Tucker, whom I've had on a diet of canned > Wellness since late August. I'm thrilled to report that he's more than [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Rene Wow, Rene, he really has lost! Congratulations on a job well done. What kind of canned are you feeding him? Mary, I'm feeding him Wellness canned (rotating four flavors) Rene I found a great free recourse site to help people manage their weight loss and live a healthy lifestyle. I used a few of their tips and lost a ton of weight. Hope this helps you also :) Visit http://www.manageweightloss.com for more information in article 1102790408.732344.94180@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com, rschweitzer@kalmbach.com at rschweitzer@kalmbach.com wrote on 12/11/04 12:40 PM: > http://community-2.webtv.net/getcathelp/tuckerpics/ Wow. Good work. I'm glad he is slimming down. He must be tons more comfortable already. I can see the difference. The photo journal is a good idea. BTW, for anyone having trouble bringing up pics on this site, I have discovered that IE 5.2 for Macs won't so you need to use another browser. On Sat 11 Dec 2004 01:40:08p, wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav (news:1102790408.732344.94180@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com): > Some of you might remember my Tucker, whom I've had on a diet of > canned Wellness since late August. I'm thrilled to report that [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Here's a photo gallery of his progress: > http://community-2.webtv.net/getcathelp/tuckerpics/ Good work Rene!  SignatureCheryl > Some of you might remember my Tucker, whom I've had on a diet of canned > Wellness since late August. I'm thrilled to report that he's more than [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Rene Are you weighing him on an accurate pediatric scale or at your vet's office? A safe weight-loss program is very slow process. Seems like you're following an idea program - allowing ~4 weeks for each pound lost. 18/2.2 = 8 kg x 45 kcal/kg/day = 368 kcal/day x 75% = 276 kcal/day = 1.5 can/day (Wellness Turkey @ 175 kca/5.5 oz can) Best of luck. Phil Phil, I have been weighing him on a digital postal scale that I purchased online. I place a box on the scale (the same box, tare out the weight) and weigh him. Yes, I realize weight loss is a slow process--I would do nothing to risk his health and that's why I weigh him every week. The calorie amounts you've listed above are similar to what my vet recommended--and what he gained weight on. I began the weight loss with 1 1/3 cans per day and am now feeding a tad under one can per day. The weight loss has been slow, yet consistant, so I'm sticking with this. Rene > Phil, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Rene Rene, You can't arbitrarily decide how much to feed a cat. You're feeding him less than half of his energy requirement which could (probably) result in nutrient, especially protein deficiency (i.e., malnutrition). Protein deficiency results in impaired immunological response and resistance to infection, reduced hemoglobin production and anemia, decreased plasma protein levels, and muscle wasting. You want Tucker to lose fat not muscle mass. Cats need a minimum of 3.3 to 4 g of protein per kilogram of body weight per day. I doubt his protein needs are being met with his present diet. If the diet your vet prescribed wasn't working, perhaps Tucker needs more exercise. Diet along if often not enough. Advise your vet of Tucker's present diet before you run into serious problems. Good luck. Phil > Rene, > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Phil Phil, I don't know why you seem to be the only person on this group who is against Tucker's diet. I did not arbitrarily choose an amount of food to feed him. His diet is based on 15 calories per pound of weight per day. I started out feeding 1 + 1/3 cans per day and am carefully monitoring his weight every week to make sure he's not losing too quickly (which he isn't). For nearly three years, I followed the advice of my (now previous) vet and bought their prescription food. Their advice for the amount to feed was vague at best--and I ended up with a thinner wallet and a much heavier cat. I am in the process of switching vets now (have an annual checkup next week) and have already talked to the clinic about the diet he's on. They have no problem with it and I will be bringing along the spreadsheet I keep so they can read his progress. I've been doing this diet for four months and Tucker is perfectly healthy. He is thinner, more active, and (I think) happier. I do not believe he is "malnourished" or suffering in anyway. To continue on the path I was would be worse. I have stacks of papers here from the Small Animal Clinical Nutrition, books I've read from Cornell and others, and people I've talked to. I have a lot going on in my personal life right now, so I'm too mentally exhausted to document every source and quote to you. I'm sorry you disagree with me, but sometimes people have to agree to disagree. I love my cats and believe I am doing the right thing. Rene > Phil, > I don't know why you seem to be the only person on this group who is [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Rene Rene, This is similar to what I am feeding. My cats get between 13 and 14 calories per pound per day, and it maintains their weight perfectly. I do think it is important to use quality cat food (which you are doing) and cannot look solely at calories. I use Wellness canned and Felidae canned, and I (and the vet) believe that my cats are at optimum health. Keep up the good work! MaryL > > Rene, > > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > I don't know why you seem to be the only person on this group who is > against Tucker's diet. I'm not "against" Tucker's diet. I'm just a little worried about him getting adequate nutrition. 165-170 kcal/day for a cat with a *basil* (not maintenance) energy requirement of 320 kcal/day sounds a little scary. All commercial cat foods are formulated to deliver "x" grams of nutrient per kcal eaten (e.g., protein: 10 g/100 kcal ME). Thus, when you cut calories you're also cutting essential nutrients (protein, taurine, vitamins, minerals). Cats have a high protein requirement, so, if adequate protein isn't supplied by the diet that cat catabolizes body protein. Just be cautious. Find out how many grams of protein are in each 100 kcals of his diet. Make sure he's getting enough. I really do wish you good luck. Phil Phil, I don't know why you seem to be the only person on this group who is against Tucker's diet. I did not arbitrarily choose an amount of food to feed him. His diet is based on 15 calories per pound of weight per day. I am carefully monitoring his weight every week to make sure he's not losing too quickly (which he isn't). For nearly three years, I followed the advice of my (now previous) vet and bought their prescription food. Their advice for the amount to feed was vague at best--and I ended up with a thinner wallet and a much heavier cat. I am in the process of switching vets now and have already talked to the clinic about the diet he's on. They have no problem with it and I will be bringing along the spreadsheet I keep so they can read his progress. I've been doing this diet for four months and Tucker is perfectly healthy. He is thinner, more active, and (I think) happier. I do not believe he is "malnourished" or suffering in any way. To continue on the path I was would be worse. I'm sorry you disagree with me, but sometimes people have to agree to disagree. I love my cats and believe I am doing the right thing. rschweitzer@kalmbach.com wrote in news:1102790408.732344.94180 @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: > http://community-2.webtv.net/getcathelp/tuckerpics/ What a handsome guy! Sounds like the diet is going well. --Catherine & Rosalie the calicohead > Some of you might remember my Tucker, whom I've had on a diet of canned > Wellness since late August. I'm thrilled to report that he's more than [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Rene Congratulations! You are making great progress. MaryL |
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