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Chris - 02 Dec 2004 03:33 GMT
I had taken my new kitty, India (half siames half burmese) to be
spayed and then boarded for thanksgiving weekend. That was one week
ago, I noticed when I brought her home on Monday that she wasn't quite
right, usually cats are ok after a day or two, but she wasn't.  I had
taken her back to the vet because she had thrown up her food that day.
The vet said to give her reassurance because she had been really
scared the whole time she was at the vet.  Now today( Wednesday), she
couldn't hold anything down, not even water, and she was really
dehydrated and lethargic.  I took her back and they are sending the
blood work out and they gave her a shot of antibiotics, and a pill to
help with the nausia.
Anybody know what could be wrong? I know it's probably an infection of
some kind.  I just want her to be ok again.  =-(
Cathy Friedmann - 02 Dec 2004 03:36 GMT
> I had taken my new kitty, India (half siames half burmese) to be
> spayed and then boarded for thanksgiving weekend. That was one week
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> Anybody know what could be wrong? I know it's probably an infection of
> some kind.  I just want her to be ok again.  =-(

I don't know what may be wrong, but I hope they get it figured out, soon.
Did they also give her fluids (subcutaneously), since she was so dehydrated?

Cathy
Mary - 02 Dec 2004 03:38 GMT
> I had taken my new kitty, India (half siames half burmese) to be
> spayed and then boarded for thanksgiving weekend. That was one week
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Anybody know what could be wrong? I know it's probably an infection of
> some kind.  I just want her to be ok again.  =-(

Chris,

I would not hesitate to take her to another vet if you feel uneasy. The
vet's
first comment when you took her back Monday strikes me as odd. I think I
might
take her to another vet and tell him the story and see what he thinks.
Karen Chuplis - 02 Dec 2004 03:48 GMT
> I had taken my new kitty, India (half siames half burmese) to be
> spayed and then boarded for thanksgiving weekend. That was one week
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Anybody know what could be wrong? I know it's probably an infection of
> some kind.  I just want her to be ok again.  =-(

Are they hydrating her? I would expect them to force fluids, which that
alone might perk her up. If stress caused her to stop eating it can start a
vicious cycle of not eating being nauseated and lead to what you describe.
If your vet is not doing this kind of support, I would find another vet. My
cat sugar became like this after I was gone for Christmas one time. It took
three days of fluids and forced feeding at the vet to get her to come
around. I really question your vet.
Cheryl - 02 Dec 2004 03:55 GMT
>> I had taken my new kitty, India (half siames half burmese) to
>> be spayed and then boarded for thanksgiving weekend. That was
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> It took three days of fluids and forced feeding at the vet to
> get her to come around. I really question your vet.

Seconded. Fluid therapy can do wonders, and doesn't even stress the
cat more because they can do it so quickly. Severe dehydration can
help to cause anorexia, or at the very least, hydration therapy can
kick-start the appetite.

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Heather - 02 Dec 2004 04:34 GMT
>I had taken my new kitty, India (half siames half burmese) to be
>spayed and then boarded for thanksgiving weekend. That was one week
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>Anybody know what could be wrong? I know it's probably an infection of
>some kind.  I just want her to be ok again.  =-(
Just make sure you keep her hydrated.
Some vets will let you do it yourself.  They can give you a bag of
Ringer's Lactate or Saline and a few syringes and you just inject the
fluid under the skin.  The Vet can show you how....if you're squeamish
about needles, try to eyedropper as much water as you can into her.
If her electrolytes get out of balance, you could have a serious
problem.  
As for your Vet, if he/she didn't check for dehydration first thing,
go to a different Vet.  Not to check that is to invite disaster for
any cat.

Susan (Heather)
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user@domain.invalid - 02 Dec 2004 06:56 GMT
This exact scenario happened to a friend of mine a couple months ago. It
tyrned out that the vet was not very careful about keeping the patients
isolated, and my friend's kitten picked up a disease from some other
poor cat. As it doesn't sound like your vet is too concerned, I suggest
you find one who is. Meanwhile, fluid therapy is very important (as
others have suggested).  A blood test to determine what disease (if any)
is present is important to devise a treatment.

> I had taken my new kitty, India (half siames half burmese) to be
> spayed and then boarded for thanksgiving weekend. That was one week
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Anybody know what could be wrong? I know it's probably an infection of
> some kind.  I just want her to be ok again.  =-(
Phil P. - 02 Dec 2004 07:39 GMT
> I had taken my new kitty, India (half siames half burmese) to be
> spayed and then boarded for thanksgiving weekend. That was one week
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Anybody know what could be wrong? I know it's probably an infection of
> some kind.  I just want her to be ok again.  =-(

Dehydration in cats - especially in kittens - should not be taken so
lightly.

After a certain point, a cat cannot obtain enough water fast enough by
forced oral intake to replace her water deficit and meet her ongoing needs.
The fact that she's not eating compounds her water deficit since cats can
meet almost their entire daily water requirement from their food (canned).

I know its an additional expense, but please take your cat to another vet as
soon as possible.  Dehydration along with the severe electrolyte imbalances
that usually follows can quickly become life-threatening.  Kittens and young
cats are especially vulernerable.

Please don't hesitate.

Good luck.

Phil
chris - 02 Dec 2004 12:49 GMT
Thank you all for responding!  When I took her back yesterday, I did
see a different vet who seemed to be MUCH more caring than the first.
He did take a blood sample and give her fluids and a shot of
antibiotics.  I have to wait until this afternoon for the blood
results.  As for giving her fluids myself.  I am trying to give her a
syringe of water when I can.   But she had been throwing this up after
a little while.  So fat this morning I gave her about 2 1/2 cc's of
water and 1/2 of the pill for nausea (centrine).  I also gave her a
little of the Hi Vite they originally gave me for her pain..it has
vitamins in it.  I will be taking her back today for another forced
fluid treatment at the vet, and then another appointment Friday with
the doctor.
I'm just glad she made it through the night.  I've been worried sick
since I first saw her and she wasn't quite right after the thanksgiving
weekend.  I just hope I didn't get her back in time.   What could I
have done to prevent this????   Should I have gotten the bloodwork
before surgery?  Should I have gotten her laser surgery?  should I have
just boarded her and then waited to spay her?  I feel I did something
wrong  =-(

> > I had taken my new kitty, India (half siames half burmese) to be
> > spayed and then boarded for thanksgiving weekend. That was one week
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>
> Phil
Monique Y. Mudama - 02 Dec 2004 17:57 GMT
> Thank you all for responding!  When I took her back yesterday, I did see a
> different vet who seemed to be MUCH more caring than the first.  He did take
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> surgery?  Should I have gotten her laser surgery?  should I have just
> boarded her and then waited to spay her?  I feel I did something wrong  =-(

Hi, Chris!

I don't think you did anything wrong, but I tend to be a worry wart and I
think I would have chosen to time things so that she could be home, under my
watchful eye, while she recovered.  Strange places and strange animals can be
really stressful for any cat, and spaying is pretty invasive.  Think about how
long it takes a human woman to recover from a hysterectomy.  (I've always
wondered why they can't take less extreme approaches for animals -- can't
tubes be tied, or something?  I sure wouldn't casually submit myself to such a
procedure, and yet it's our only option for making sure we don't contribute to
the kitten problem.)

It sounds like you were much happier with the second vet you saw, so I'd
recommend specifically asking to see that vet when you make appointments.
Just like doctors, you need to find a vet who works for you.

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Mary - 02 Dec 2004 18:15 GMT
> Thank you all for responding!  When I took her back yesterday, I did
> see a different vet who seemed to be MUCH more caring than the first.

Thank goodness!

> He did take a blood sample and give her fluids and a shot of
> antibiotics.

The fluids are probably most important of all, that's great!

I have to wait until this afternoon for the blood
> results.  As for giving her fluids myself.  I am trying to give her a
> syringe of water when I can.   But she had been throwing this up after
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> fluid treatment at the vet, and then another appointment Friday with
> the doctor.

You are taking good care of her.

> I'm just glad she made it through the night.  I've been worried sick
> since I first saw her and she wasn't quite right after the thanksgiving
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> just boarded her and then waited to spay her?  I feel I did something
> wrong  =-(

I don't think you did anything wrong, and you are doing everything right
now.
From what I have seen of human hospitals over holiday weekends, it might
not be optimal to send animals in for procedures during those times, but
that is hindsight. Hope your baby is fine. Let us know.
Chris - 06 Dec 2004 02:20 GMT
Finally a follow up to the sick kitty drama that befell me and India
this past week.
We found out from the blood test that she had something wrong with her
liver.  This had come about from not eating when she was at the vet
for the thanksgiving weekend.  So we've been getting fluids in her and
she has been eating regularly now.  She's playing and walking
around...not running and jumping yet, but she's 200% better!  The last
thing we have to do is get some puss from an infection in her belly
drained...then she should be back to normal.  I've been giving her
antibiotics and putting a warm damp washcloth on her belly to help
with the infection.  She still has some weight to gain back, but she's
looking good now!!
Thanks all that wrote and gave their support!  I'll get some pictures
up so you can see her.  I'm also needing soma advise as to what breed
she really is.  The pet store siad she had a siamese mom and a burmese
dad, but the more I look and read about Russian Blues, I'm a little
more convinced to the later.

Thanks!

Christopher...............
Karen Chuplis - 06 Dec 2004 03:24 GMT
> Finally a follow up to the sick kitty drama that befell me and India
> this past week.
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>
> Christopher...............

What a relief!!! I'm so glad she is doing so much better :)
Mary - 06 Dec 2004 04:14 GMT
> > Finally a follow up to the sick kitty drama that befell me and India
> > this past week.
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>
> What a relief!!! I'm so glad she is doing so much better :)

A Big Me Too here! Yea, India. Can't wait to see some pictures.
Cathy Friedmann - 06 Dec 2004 03:27 GMT
> Finally a follow up to the sick kitty drama that befell me and India
> this past week.
> We found out from the blood test that she had something wrong with her
> liver.  This had come about from not eating when she was at the vet
> for the thanksgiving weekend.

This sort of scenario can be very bad - "fatty liver disease" - a cat's
liver can't deal with quick weight loss.  When an overweight cat needs to go
on a diet & lose weight, for example, the weight needs to be lost very
slowly, to avoid this potentially fatal complication.

So we've been getting fluids in her and
> she has been eating regularly now.  She's playing and walking
> around...not running and jumping yet, but she's 200% better!

That's great! - I'm glad it was easily reversible, & that the bloodwork did
pinpoint the problem.

The last
> thing we have to do is get some puss from an infection in her belly
> drained...then she should be back to normal.

I wonder if this had also to do w/ her not doing well, & not eating, earlier
on.

I've been giving her
> antibiotics and putting a warm damp washcloth on her belly to help
> with the infection.  She still has some weight to gain back, but she's
> looking good now!!

I hope she continues to improve, & that this will eventually prove to be a
mere blip.

> Thanks all that wrote and gave their support!  I'll get some pictures
> up so you can see her.  I'm also needing soma advise as to what breed
> she really is.  The pet store siad she had a siamese mom and a burmese
> dad, but the more I look and read about Russian Blues, I'm a little
> more convinced to the later.

Maybe she's a little bit of each. ;-)

Cathy
PawsForThought - 06 Dec 2004 18:44 GMT
>From: christophercapadona@yahoo.com  (Chris)

>She's playing and walking
>around...not running and jumping yet, but she's 200% better!

That is great news!  I know you must be so relieved and happy :)

Lauren
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MacCandace - 07 Dec 2004 03:55 GMT
<<  She's playing and walking
around...not running and jumping yet, but she's 200% better! >>

I'm really glad!  I kept checking back here for an update and was getting
worried.  Poor little girl had a rough time.  Hope she totally recovers very
soon!

Candace
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Cathy Friedmann - 02 Dec 2004 23:22 GMT
Oh, good - I'm glad this vet gave her fluids.  If she was dehydrated, it'd
seem to me that the first vet would've made sure that was done!

You probably have done nothing wrong re: her care - just lousy luck.  I hope
the bloodwork points out the exact problem, so that she can be specifically
& successfully treated.

Cathy

> Thank you all for responding!  When I took her back yesterday, I did
> see a different vet who seemed to be MUCH more caring than the first.
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> >
> > Phil
 
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