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Maia Kitty has Hyperthyroid Disease
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Save Maia Kitty - 01 Dec 2004 01:57 GMT Maia Kitty was recently diagnosed with Feline Hyperthyroid disease. I have created a website (www.savemaiakitty.com) to help raise money for her treatment and to help others become more informed about this common ailment in cats. If you have any helpful info about this disease or would like to make a "cat-ribution", please let me know. Thanks!
Mary - 01 Dec 2004 02:08 GMT > Maia Kitty was recently diagnosed with Feline Hyperthyroid disease. I > have created a website (www.savemaiakitty.com) to help raise money for > her treatment and to help others become more informed about this > common ailment in cats. If you have any helpful info about this > disease or would like to make a "cat-ribution", please let me know. > Thanks! All you have to do is give Maia Tapazole until you can save the money for the radiation treatment. Tapazole is cheap and effective and Maia can live a long healthy life if you NEVER get her the $1,200 radiation treatment. Many of us have hyperthyroid cats.
Barb - 01 Dec 2004 02:36 GMT My cat has a hyper thyroid and has been on thyroid medication for several years. We now get her meds from the Road Runner-$70 for 100 capsules. That's less than a dollar a day. Telephone # 877-518-4589. Call is free and so far shipping has been free, too. There are blood tests every few months to make sure the dose is correct but again that averages out to $1 a day. So get yourself a can and start saving those dollars. Two dollars a day should cover all with maybe $30 left over every few months or so. Or throw all your loose change in at the end of each day.
-- Barb Of course I don't look busy, I did it right the first time.
Mary - 01 Dec 2004 02:33 GMT > My cat has a hyper thyroid and has been on thyroid medication for several > years. We now get her meds from the Road Runner-$70 for 100 capsules. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -- She has already had the radiation therapy done, with the help of over a hundred charity dollars, but wants us to reimburse her for more of it. It's her cat, but for some reason we need to pay the $900 + not already paid for by other suckers.
Cathy Friedmann - 01 Dec 2004 03:37 GMT > > My cat has a hyper thyroid and has been on thyroid medication for several > > years. We now get her meds from the Road Runner-$70 for 100 capsules. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > She has already had the radiation therapy done, That's what I initially thoiught, but... unless I read it wrong...
with the help of
> over a hundred charity dollars, but wants us to reimburse her for > more of it. It's her cat, but for some reason we need to pay the > $900 + not already paid for by other suckers. The Home page of the website says that they have decided to do the radiotherapy, but that Maia is still rapidly losing weight, is down to 5 lbs., & they want donations for the treatment. Yeah, right. One reason that's given (on the home page) for the radiation treatment: more cost effective in the long run - ha!, yeah, if you get a slew of other people to pay your cat's vet bill for you.
To Maia's owner - why on earth are you not treating her with Tapazole in the meantime?!!! There is no reason for her to continue to be hyperthyroid. Tapazole - or its generic equivalent of methimazole - is _not_ an expensive drug.
Cathy
jamie - 01 Dec 2004 08:48 GMT > The Home page of the website says that they have decided to do the > radiotherapy, but that Maia is still rapidly losing weight, is down to 5 > lbs., & they want donations for the treatment. Yeah, right. One reason > that's given (on the home page) for the radiation treatment: more cost > effective in the long run - ha!, yeah, if you get a slew of other people to > pay your cat's vet bill for you. Thyroid surgery costs a fraction of what radiation therapy costs, and Gideon's recovery was so rapid and easy, I have to recommend it to anyone having difficulty raising the money for radiation treatment.
Keeping the cat on Tapazole long-term is not very expensive either, but some cats react badly to it, like mine did during his test period on Tapazole. But a friend's cat did well on Tapazole for several years, until over time the dose had to be increased and increased until any more would be toxic, and she had the radioactive therapy done.
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Mary - 01 Dec 2004 17:20 GMT > > The Home page of the website says that they have decided to do the > > radiotherapy, but that Maia is still rapidly losing weight, is down to 5 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and Gideon's recovery was so rapid and easy, I have to recommend it > to anyone having difficulty raising the money for radiation treatment. Jamie,
My vet told me that the down side to the surgery is that it is easy to take too much of the parathyroid, which causes problems. Here, the surgery would have been about $600 instead of the $1,200 for the radiation. I will have the radiation done for my girl as soon as we have seen that her thyroid levels have been in a good range for a few months.
Cathy Friedmann - 01 Dec 2004 21:28 GMT > > > The Home page of the website says that they have decided to do the > > > radiotherapy, but that Maia is still rapidly losing weight, is down to 5 [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > the surgery would have been about $600 instead of the $1,200 for > the radiation. Yes - Debbie had a thyroidectomy, since there was no radiation therapy available around here in '98, & she couldn't remain on Tapazole long-term because of a pre-existing liver condition. Despite my vet being *extremely* careful & thinking/hoping it was a perfect surgery, the parathyroids were affected. It wasn't a huge deal, but Debbie did become hypothyroid, & needed to take a thyroxin, a thyroid supplement, to get her thyroid blood work back to normal again. If the liver condition hadn't been a contraindication, then I would've kept her on the Tapazole. (As cats go, Debbie was easy to pill.)
Cathy
I will have the radiation done for my girl as soon as
> we have seen that her thyroid levels have been in a good range > for a few months. Cathy Friedmann - 01 Dec 2004 23:40 GMT > > My vet told me that the down side to the surgery is that it is easy > > to take too much of the parathyroid, which causes problems. Here, > > the surgery would have been about $600 instead of the $1,200 for > > the radiation. P.S. Debbie's surgery was nowhere near $600; more like $200-250-ish IIRC, but OTOH that was 6+ years ago. Plus location - where in the country one's located - seems to have a big effect on prices.
Cathy
> Yes - Debbie had a thyroidectomy, since there was no radiation therapy > available around here in '98, & she couldn't remain on Tapazole long-term [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > we have seen that her thyroid levels have been in a good range > > for a few months. jamie - 04 Dec 2004 08:13 GMT >> > My vet told me that the down side to the surgery is that it is easy >> > to take too much of the parathyroid, which causes problems. Here, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > but OTOH that was 6+ years ago. Plus location - where in the country one's > located - seems to have a big effect on prices. Gideon's thyroid surgery, plus dental cleaning and two bad teeth extracted, plus $50 (optional) for an outside lab to analyze the removed growth, came to about $325. That was 3 months ago, in central Texas.
My vet did mention that she had no trouble finding and returning the parathyroid from the overgrown thyroid lobe, but she teaches thyroid surgery, so I assume she's very good at it.
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"There's a seeker born every minute."
Save Maia Kitty - 01 Dec 2004 19:21 GMT This is from Maia's mama, who created www.savemaiakitty.com. While some of you may not agree with the treatment I have chosen for Maia (Radioactive Iodine Therapy), I feel it was the best solution for my cat. I did what I thought I had to do. It was explained to me by several vets that this was the best form, as surgery was not guaranteed (at about $600), and that there could be problems with Tapazole (ie: kidney and liver damage, plus vomitting--which Maia already has an issue with...). So I did look at all the costs and factors, and decided that the radioiodine solution would eventually equal the costs of medicine over a 2 year period, which was confirmed by my vet as well. As far as asking for others to help out, well, why not? I love may cat more than anything and am doing all I can for her. There are many nice people out there (and not "suckers" as someone wrote) who genuinely love giving to others in need. Not everything has to be done in conventional ways, and I find it courageous to be able to ask for help when we need it. I am so thankful for all who have expressed concern for my little kitty and to those who have given on her behalf.
> > The Home page of the website says that they have decided to do the > > radiotherapy, but that Maia is still rapidly losing weight, is down to 5 [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > until over time the dose had to be increased and increased until any > more would be toxic, and she had the radioactive therapy done. Mary - 01 Dec 2004 19:30 GMT > This is from Maia's mama, who created www.savemaiakitty.com. While > some of you may not agree with the treatment I have chosen for Maia [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > thankful for all who have expressed concern for my little kitty and to > those who have given on her behalf. "Save Maia Kitty" is really deceiving, given that her life has never been in danger. You are a user, plain and simple. A parasite.
PawsForThought - 01 Dec 2004 20:59 GMT >From: savemaiakitty@yahoo.com (Save Maia Kitty)
>As far as asking for others to help out, well, why >not? I love may cat more than anything and am doing all I can for >her. I understand your love for your cat, and while I'd love to be able to help complete and total strangers posting on the internet for me to send them money, but I have my own cats who have needs, and they must come first, as well as my mortgage and other various bills and living expenses. That's why I work. Any extra money I ever may have I donate to my local rescue facility where I got my cats from, as I know they are a great facility and in need. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
Cathy Friedmann - 01 Dec 2004 21:39 GMT > This is from Maia's mama, who created www.savemaiakitty.com. While > some of you may not agree with the treatment I have chosen for Maia > (Radioactive Iodine Therapy), I don't think this is exactly what people are having a problem with...
I feel it was the best solution for my
> cat. I did what I thought I had to do. It was explained to me by > several vets that this was the best form, as surgery was not > guaranteed (at about $600), and that there could be problems with > Tapazole (ie: kidney and liver damage, plus vomitting--which Maia > already has an issue with...). In rare cases the liver may be affected when first starting the medication. Treating hyperthyroidism with Tapazole may unmask a pre-existing kidney condition, but AFAIK, it doesn't cause kidney damage.
So I did look at all the costs and
> factors, and decided that the radioiodine solution would eventually > equal the costs of medicine over a 2 year period, No way!!!! Tapazole is NOT an expensive drug.
which was confirmed
> by my vet as well. In that case, I think the vet is way off the mark. One of my cats was on Tapazole, & I have also been taking it for the last several years. Besides, there's the generic methimazole, which is even less expensive.
As far as asking for others to help out, well, why
> not? Because everyone else has to take care of their *own* cats/pets; IOW - responsibility. Why should I - or anyone else - subsidize your finances, esp. when you could certainly have opted for the much less expensive generic methimazole route?
I love may cat more than anything and am doing all I can for
> her. There are many nice people out there (and not "suckers" as > someone wrote) who genuinely love giving to others in need. Not > everything has to be done in conventional ways, and I find it > courageous to be able to ask for help when we need it. I am so > thankful for all who have expressed concern for my little kitty and to > those who have given on her behalf. I'm concerned that you are apparently not treating her with Tapazole/methimazole while waiting to garner enough money for the radiation therapy!!! You state that she's wasting away & is down to 5 pounds, yet you're not treating her in the interim??? Why not? There is no reason why you can't put her on medication to get her stabilized & healthy, then do the radiation treatment after saving up for the cost of the deal.
Cathy
> > > The Home page of the website says that they have decided to do the > > > radiotherapy, but that Maia is still rapidly losing weight, is down to 5 [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > until over time the dose had to be increased and increased until any > > more would be toxic, and she had the radioactive therapy done. Save Maia Kitty - 01 Dec 2004 19:30 GMT This is from Maia's mama, who created www.savemaiakitty.com. While some of you may not agree with the treatment I have chosen for Maia (Radioactive Iodine Therapy), I feel it was the best solution for my cat. I did what I thought I had to do. It was explained to me by several vets that this was the best form, as surgery was not guaranteed (at about $600), and that there could be problems with Tapazole (ie: kidney and liver damage, plus vomitting--which Maia already has an issue with...). So I did look at all the costs and factors, and decided that the radioiodine solution would eventually equal the costs of medicine over a 2 year period, which was confirmed by my vet as well. As far as asking for others to help out, well, why not? I love may cat more than anything and am doing all I can for her. There are many nice people out there (and not "suckers" as someone wrote) who genuinely love giving to others in need. Not everything has to be done in conventional ways, and I find it courageous to be able to ask for help when we need it. I am so thankful for all who have expressed concern for my little kitty and to those who have given on her behalf.
> > The Home page of the website says that they have decided to do the > > radiotherapy, but that Maia is still rapidly losing weight, is down to 5 [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > until over time the dose had to be increased and increased until any > more would be toxic, and she had the radioactive therapy done. PawsForThought - 01 Dec 2004 20:50 GMT >From: "Cathy Friedmann" clfr@adelphia.net
>To Maia's owner - why on earth are you not treating her with Tapazole in the >meantime?!!! There is no reason for her to continue to be hyperthyroid. >Tapazole - or its generic equivalent of methimazole - is _not_ an expensive >drug. I wonder if there is even a cat. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
Mary - 01 Dec 2004 20:54 GMT > >From: "Cathy Friedmann" clfr@adelphia.net > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I wonder if there is even a cat. > ________ Good point. But as long as there are enough suckers to fall for this kind of thing they will keep trying. It's sad when there are so many shelters and other organizations that are legit and really need the financial support.
Sherry - 02 Dec 2004 15:03 GMT >Good point. But as long as there are enough suckers to fall >for this kind of thing they will keep trying. It's sad when there are >so many shelters and other organizations that are legit and really >need the financial support. The website won't open for me. But that's okay...I'm still reeling over the "Help Someone" recent spam. It's like the cyber version of "Queen for a Day". One post asked for an RV so he could visit his girlfriend!! I'm also reeling over the fact that people actually send money. IMO, if you have the desire & money to help someone, independently, you really don't have to go further than your own home town. I bet I could find owners of cats in dire straits for medical care pretty fast around here, and have the satisfaction of knowing I"m not being shucked by some internet scammer. Sherry
Cathy Friedmann - 01 Dec 2004 23:41 GMT > >From: "Cathy Friedmann" clfr@adelphia.net > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I wonder if there is even a cat. Yeah, that's a possibility.
Cathy
savemaiakitty@yahoo.com - 02 Dec 2004 06:15 GMT >From Maia's owner...Maia actually just had the radio treatment--if you read my website (ie "FAQ's" and "weekly updates"), much of the stuff you're talking about is answered there. I was advised that Maia should not go on the tapazole before radiotherapy, as there would be some conflict with the two. An appt slot opened up for the radiotherapy and we jumped on it. Everything happened so quickly, and I did what I thought was best, under the guidance of the professionals I consulted with. And YES, Maia is real, and YES she has hyperthyroidism, and YES, I am sincere in my asking for some help. I made a posting here in an effort to connect with others, be a resource to others who may have a kitty with this disease, and to see if anyone was interested in helping out. I know we are on the net and none of you know me, but I didn't expect to be defending my choices and legitimacey--perhaps a bit naive on my part. Whether you agree with what I am doing or not, that really doesn't matter to me...I just thought some of you would show a little more tact, as perhaps a real person with a real kitty just might be on the other side reading your responses. Additionally, you may want to read my website to understand my circumstances better. Not everyone is out to be a "parasite" as someone posted. Sometimes life throws us things we don't expect, and we just do the best we can...and that's what I am trying to do.
PawsForThought - 02 Dec 2004 13:01 GMT >rom: savemaiakitty@yahoo.com
> Not everyone is >out to be a "parasite" as someone posted. Sometimes life throws us >things we don't expect, and we just do the best we can...and that's >what I am trying to do. While I can sympathize with a bad situation, one has to realize that going out onto the internet and asking total strangers to send you money is not the right thing to do. Many of us have been in bad situations. We do what is necessary to get the proper treatment for our pets. A few examples: getting a job, cancelling our internet provider to save money, asking family for help, asking the vet to make a payment plan, etc. I read your website and your gall is unbelievable! You are not in some awful situation (too sick to work, etc.). You are just someone who is in graduate school. You want everyone else to support your cat's treatment but yourself. Don't you think we have our own pets who have important needs? Or is your cat somehow more important than ours? So you claim your particular vet doesn't accept payment plans. Then find another vet who does. Maybe even find a vet who will put your cat on proper medication in the meantime instead of letting her waste to death. I always believe when there is a will, there is a way. Stop depending on other people and learn to take care of your cat! (again, if in fact the cat exists. Just because you say she does, doesn't make it so) ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
Barb - 02 Dec 2004 17:36 GMT A good point was made here. Grad students as well as under grads are inundated with credit card offers, While in general they should be refused, using one for medical treatment for one's cat is a good idea to be paid back upon employment.
-- Barb Of course I don't look busy, I did it right the first time.
Mary - 02 Dec 2004 18:16 GMT > >rom: savemaiakitty@yahoo.com > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Just because you say she does, doesn't make it so) > ________ Lauren, stop making perfect sense. It is bound to be wasted on the Terminally Entitled, as this twit surely is.
PawsForThought - 02 Dec 2004 22:32 GMT >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com
>Lauren, stop making perfect sense. It is bound to be wasted on the >Terminally >Entitled, as this twit surely is. Well of course we should support her in graduate school, don't you think? God forbid this person learns how to take care of her own pets. Maybe we should forego vet care for our cats so we can give her our money so she can continue on in graduate school. If this person was standing in front of me, I would love to slap her silly! ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
Mary - 03 Dec 2004 00:02 GMT > >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > love to slap her silly! > ________ Hee. No you wouldn't. But I admit the *idea* is appealing. :-)
Mary - 02 Dec 2004 18:08 GMT > >From Maia's owner...Maia actually just had the radio treatment--if you > read my website (ie "FAQ's" and "weekly updates"), much of the stuff > you're talking about is answered there. I was advised that Maia should > not go on the tapazole before radiotherapy, as there would be some > conflict with the two. Bullshit. I was advised to keep my cat on Tapazole for several months so that her thyroid levels will have been stable for a while at the time of the procedure.
Cathy Friedmann - 02 Dec 2004 23:15 GMT > >From Maia's owner...Maia actually just had the radio treatment--if you > read my website (ie "FAQ's" and "weekly updates"), All I read was the Home page; had no real desire to delve farther into the site - mostly due to the "begging" nature of it. The home page stated that Maia is still losing weight, is down to 5 pounds, & infers that she still needs treatment. If this is no longer true, how about updating the info?
much of the stuff
> you're talking about is answered there. I was advised that Maia should > not go on the tapazole before radiotherapy, as there would be some > conflict with the two. ??? This is news to me. I don't understand why there'd be a conflict. Why would a vet advise a cat's owner to let the cat remain hyperthyroid until the radioactive treatment appt. arrived?
An appt slot opened up for the radiotherapy and
> we jumped on it. Everything happened so quickly, and I did what I > thought was best, under the guidance of the professionals I consulted [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > more tact, as perhaps a real person with a real kitty just might be on > the other side reading your responses. Yeah, a real person who's begging others to pick up on the financial responsibility of their cat's medical bill. A large bill which was a *choice* - see below.
Additionally, you may want to
> read my website to understand my circumstances better. Not everyone is > out to be a "parasite" as someone posted. Sometimes life throws us > things we don't expect, and we just do the best we can...and that's > what I am trying to do. You didn't have to go with the ultra-pricey radioactive treatment, if finances are an issue. Methimazole is way less expensive - even when considering years of therapy, & a monthly prescription of it requires shelling out many fewer dollars just one month at a time - instant budgeting! - not a huge one-time bill. Yet methimazole usually works just fine.
Cathy
Save Maia Kitty - 03 Dec 2004 05:27 GMT > > >From Maia's owner...Maia actually just had the radio treatment--if you > > read my website (ie "FAQ's" and "weekly updates"), [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > Cathy, my vet did not recommend that I let Maia go untreated until I could do the radiotherapy. I decided to do that form of treatment, (after doing all the research, including cost research for my area), and she said I needed to do something ASAP and that I should not start the Tapozole while I waited for an appt for the radiotherapy b/c the cat should not be on it a few weeks or so before the radiation...
While some of you have shown more etiquette than others, I am tired of defending myself in this group. I have been called a liar, a parasite, a twit, a beggar, and irresponsible--just to name a few. I started this group in hopes of connecting with other kind animal lovers--not to be attacked and made to feel bad about myself and my choices. I feel I have treated you all with respect...and whether you agree with me or not, I hoped to be treated respectfully too. I am going through enough already, and don't want to waste my time with people who get their kicks by 'hissing' at me. So I leave you all to continue your drama fest discussing what an idiot you think I am, whom one of you would like to actually "slap silly". I hope none of you ever find yourselves in need and having to ask for some help.
Sherry - 03 Dec 2004 14:00 GMT >While some of you have shown more etiquette than others, I am tired of >defending myself in this group. Good luck with Maia kitty. You're being really unfair in your criticism, by the way. You want our money, yet you won't even put your last name for people to send a personal check..you only accept other forms of payment for that reason. As if you have something to hide, and don't want to be checked out. You might have better credibility if you arranged with your vet to have donations phoned directly to him/her.
Sherry
PawsForThought - 04 Dec 2004 17:13 GMT >From: sriddles@aol.comkitty (Sherry )
>>While some of you have shown more etiquette than others, I am tired of >>defending myself in this group. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >phoned >directly to him/her. I didn't know she wasn't willing to give her person information. That's just more evidence of her true intent here. Also, there is no reason in the world that if she's telling the truth, she wouldn't want people to send her vet the money directly. I think her whole website and posts just smack of internet fraud and scam. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
Barb - 04 Dec 2004 20:51 GMT I believe if you told your vet that you didn't have enough money for the operation for thyroid he would suggest medication. I told my vet I was willing to go the operation route but he still wanted to try the tapazol first. It can be regulated, for one thing. It's not an operation for another. Pepper has done fine with the Tapazol for several years. Her dose has been decreased several times.
-- Barb Of course I don't look busy, I did it right the first time.
Sherry - 05 Dec 2004 05:45 GMT >I didn't know she wasn't willing to give her person information. That's just >more evidence of her true intent here. Also, there is no reason in the world [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >________ >See my cats: If any of the newsgroup folks were having difficulty and needed help with vet care, that's a whole different story. I'd donate if I could. But anonymous internet beggars make me sick.
Sherry
PawsForThought - 05 Dec 2004 16:16 GMT >From: sriddles@aol.comkitty (Sherry )
>>I didn't know she wasn't willing to give her person information. That's >just [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Sherry Me too. What really irked me about this person is she's just in grad school (according to her website), and in not dire straits at all. If she really does have a cat, I feel very sorry for it.
Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
Mary - 03 Dec 2004 15:29 GMT > While some of you have shown more etiquette than others Oh please. Etiquette? Like the incredibly good taste you've shown by making yourself a charity case? Do you have parents? Friends? Most of us know what it is like to fall short financially once in a while, and that is where we might turn if we needed money.
, I am tired of
> defending myself in this group. I have been called a liar, a parasite, > a twit, a beggar, and irresponsible--just to name a few. All appear quite accurate given your web site. "Save Maia Kitty" my a.s. Her life has never been in danger.
I started
> this group in hopes of connecting with other kind animal lovers-- You mean connecting with their money.
not
> to be attacked and made to feel bad about myself and my choices. Psst ... here's amajor clue for you: nobody CARES what you WANT. Can you get your mind around that? When you act like an a.s, expect to be treated like an a.s. Your website proves your assdom. Assishness. Terminal entitledness.
I
> feel I have treated you all with respect...and whether you agree with > me or not, I hoped to be treated respectfully too. I am going through [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > would like to actually "slap silly". I hope none of you ever find > yourselves in need and having to ask for some help. We all have. How many of us have set up a beggar web site, though? Wake up.
PawsForThought - 04 Dec 2004 17:11 GMT >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com
> So I leave you all to continue your >> drama fest discussing what an idiot you think I am, whom one of you [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >We all have. How many of us have set up a beggar web site, though? >Wake up. I think a lot of us have been in much much worse staits than being in grad school and needing money. I know I have. But I didn't depend on total strangers to bail me out. I did something about my situation. I didn't feel like the world owed me. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
Mary - 05 Dec 2004 17:02 GMT > I think a lot of us have been in much much worse staits than being in grad > school and needing money. I know I have. Me too! Like when I bounced three checks inadvertantly while in school and due to the fees found I could not pay my gas bill--and had my heat turned off in the winter. I still did not ask my parents for money--I just studied in front of the open electric oven.
>But I didn't depend on total > strangers to bail me out. I did something about my situation. I didn't feel > like the world owed me. I know what you mean, I don't get this sense of entitlement at all. As for grad school--I am still thousands in debt due to it. (I took a lot of hardship deferrals before I got established.)
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