Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / November 2004
Jasmine's change in eating habits
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Catherine K - 27 Nov 2004 16:36 GMT I don't know what to think about this. Jasmine is a 4 year old gray DS that has always had a healthy appetite and a strange aversion to canned food. So I feed her Iam's, try to tempt her with the occasional canned food in an attempt to vary her diet a little and she has thrived.
The past two days she has totally refused to eat any food in her bowl. If I scoop some out of the bowl in put it on the floor, then she inhales it. Same bowl that I have had for about a year for her, and I wash it regularly, etc.
Yesterday I watched her actually creep up to the bowl, really staring at it, then she reached out, grabbed one kernel of food, then backed off a foot or so quickly and ate that one kernel of food. Repeat until until I had mercy and took some out of the bowl and put it on the floor right next to the bowl. She was acting as if the food in the bowl was going to attack her or something.
This is all rather strange and has happened once or twice before. Any thoughts about what may be going on? I can get her to eat, so I am not too concerned, but it is rather strange...
Thanks!
Catrin
Mary - 27 Nov 2004 17:12 GMT > I don't know what to think about this. Jasmine is a 4 year old gray DS > that has always had a healthy appetite and a strange aversion to canned [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > This is all rather strange and has happened once or twice before. Any > thoughts about what may be going on? Your cat is insane. :) It happens. Seriously, could there have been an insect or something that surprised her by appearing in her bowl?
Catherine K - 27 Nov 2004 17:35 GMT > Your cat is insane. :) It happens. Seriously, could there have been > an insect or something that surprised her by appearing in her bowl? It is possible. I DID find a dead gasp! roach gasp! on my kitchen floor the other day, and I am still not certain if it was tracked in from outside or not - for it was smashed VERY flat. That being said, the apartment complex baited for roaches a couple of days later at my request.
Hmmmmm, her odd behavior started either the day they baited or the day after.
I even put her food on a saucer, and she wasn't having any of that either (though she did deign to eat a couple tablespoons of Iams canned :)
Catrin
Mary - 27 Nov 2004 18:42 GMT > > Your cat is insane. :) It happens. Seriously, could there have been > > an insect or something that surprised her by appearing in her bowl? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Hmmmmm, her odd behavior started either the day they baited or the day > after. Could be this. Bear in mind that my Cheeky approaches her pillow on my bed (where she sleeps) with great trepidation, reaching out a paw every other step across the bed to poke at the covers, a kind of test poke to flush out any scary creatures. She has slept on this pillow for three years, but just started this about a month ago. I don't know if she imagined something there or if there was some sort of (ugh) critter there while I was asleep one night! They are just very odd little critters.
Phil P. - 27 Nov 2004 17:40 GMT > I don't know what to think about this. Jasmine is a 4 year old gray DS > that has always had a healthy appetite and a strange aversion to canned [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > thoughts about what may be going on? I can get her to eat, so I am not too > concerned, but it is rather strange... You should be very concerned. A cat that stops eating is at risk of developing a very serious and potentially fatal liver disease (hepatic lipidosis - a/k/a/ fatty liver syndrome).
If you're feeding her in plastic bowls, switch to ceramic or china. Plastic bowls are porous and can retain odors even after washing. A cat's sense of smell is much more sensitive than humans'. So, even though you can't smell odors, a cat surely can.
Also, don't pour fresh food over the food left in the bowl - throw out the old food, wash the bowl, and replace it with fresh food. When cats eat dry food they drop saliva moistened crumbs back into the bowl. Moisture + air + food = an excellent breeding ground for bacteria and odors.
Phil
Karen Chuplis - 27 Nov 2004 18:33 GMT > I don't know what to think about this. Jasmine is a 4 year old gray DS > that has always had a healthy appetite and a strange aversion to canned [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Catrin I wonder if she has a bad tooth that hurts her and she associates it with the bowl?
KellyH - 27 Nov 2004 23:38 GMT >I don't know what to think about this. Jasmine is a 4 year old gray DS > that has always had a healthy appetite and a strange aversion to canned [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Catrin Maybe put her food on a small plate rather than in a bowl? Do whatever keeps her happy for her to continue to eat :)
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---MIKE--- - 28 Nov 2004 00:24 GMT I started using flat plates to feed the cats. I thought that their whiskers might touch the side of the bowl which could bother them.
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Catherine K - 28 Nov 2004 00:59 GMT > Maybe put her food on a small plate rather than in a bowl? Do whatever > keeps her happy for her to continue to eat :) I have tried this, and it doesn't seem to help. She will eat heartedly if I take it out of the bowl and put it on the floor, but not if it is in.on any container. Her usual dish is ceramic and it is washed very frequently. I even tried moving her dish to another room to see if that helped, not at all.
In the end I think that she will get over whatever this is... she shows no signs of pain when she IS eating, so I don't think it a bad tooth. I think that something startled her, whatever it was, and that she doesn't feel quite, safe, to eat out of a dish.
I would prefer not feeding her off of the floor, but if I have to do that a few times before she gets over this again, then I will.
The last time this happened she decided that she had to *kill* every kernel of food or treat - that was a hoot to watch :)
Catherine K.
KellyH - 28 Nov 2004 01:29 GMT > I have tried this, and it doesn't seem to help. She will eat heartedly if > I take it out of the bowl and put it on the floor, but not if it is in.on [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Catherine K. Your cat sounds very interesting! Maybe she would like one of those balls that you can put treats or dry food in. The cat can roll it around and dispense food, it's supposed to be like hunting to them.
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Catherine K - 28 Nov 2004 01:57 GMT
> Your cat sounds very interesting! Maybe she would like one of those balls > that you can put treats or dry food in. The cat can roll it around and > dispense food, it's supposed to be like hunting to them. She is a trip for sure :) She had a decided antisocial reputation in the shelter I got her from (well, she actually chose ME, not the other way around) and her personality has really changed since then. I had major foot surgery in September and it was interesting to see who among my friends from church she seemed to feel that I needed defending from :)
I haven't herd of this ball, it does sound like something she would be interested in. Jasmine is certainly a dry-feed kitty.
Catherine K.
Phil P. - 28 Nov 2004 03:34 GMT > I haven't herd of this ball, it does sound like something she would be > interested in. Jasmine is certainly a dry-feed kitty. Then she should really love this:
http://www.maxshouse.com/Environmental_Enrichment/Pavlov_Cat_Scratch_Feeder.jpg
Phil
Schroedinger's Cat - 28 Nov 2004 23:27 GMT > > I haven't herd of this ball, it does sound like something she would be > > interested in. Jasmine is certainly a dry-feed kitty. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Phil Phil, I always meant to ask you: where can I get one of these, or do I have to make it myself?! (I saw it on your site a couple of years ago, and never got around to asking...)
Cheers! Catherine
Cheryl - 29 Nov 2004 01:18 GMT >> > I haven't herd of this ball, it does sound like something she >> > would be interested in. Jasmine is certainly a dry-feed [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Cheers! > Catherine That looks neat for mine, too. I wonder... the kibble that is dropping in the pic looks like Cat Chow. I wonder what size/shape food fits in it to drop in single pieces? I did a brief google, but didn't have much time when I first saw Phil's post.
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Phil P. - 29 Nov 2004 02:49 GMT > > > I haven't herd of this ball, it does sound like something she would be > > > interested in. Jasmine is certainly a dry-feed kitty. > > > > Then she should really love this: http://www.maxshouse.com/Environmental_Enrichment/Pavlov_Cat_Scratch_Feeder.jpg
> > Phil > > Phil, I always meant to ask you: where can I get one of these, or do > I have to make it myself?! (I saw it on your site a couple of years > ago, and never got around to asking...) Catherine,
This model can be mounted on the wall or in the stand-bowl. The wall-mount might be better - won't tip. Its great for treats, too.
http://www.mktmkt.com/pavlovscat.html
btw, the Pavlov's Cat scratch feeder was originally designed for teaching cats to use a scratching post, but I think it also exercises their hunting instincts
Phil
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