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searching for the elusive "brendel (spelling?) cat"

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taboo - 25 Nov 2004 15:53 GMT
An associate of mine recently lost her cat of 19 years.  A close
friend of hers told me that the cat was of the type "brendel".
Similar to a calico, but with a great deal of red. short-haired,
short-statured, and thin; "sleek", as he put it.  I have searched
several different spellings of this word to no avail.  I would like to
find a piece of art with a rendering of this cat and give it to her as
consolation.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thank you.
William Hamblen - 24 Nov 2004 19:29 GMT
>An associate of mine recently lost her cat of 19 years.  A close
>friend of hers told me that the cat was of the type "brendel".
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>find a piece of art with a rendering of this cat and give it to her as
>consolation.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thank you.

Brindle = brown with broken dark brown stripes.  My neighbor had two
brindled English Bulldogs.
Leslie - 25 Nov 2004 15:58 GMT
I think you are looking for a Tortiseshell or Tortie for short. Good Luck:)
                                                                         
                                                        "you can tell alot
about a people or person in how they treat animals"
Gail - 25 Nov 2004 16:11 GMT
I think she is talking about a mottled color called brindle. With cats, we
don't use the term brindle, though.
Gail
> An associate of mine recently lost her cat of 19 years.  A close
> friend of hers told me that the cat was of the type "brendel".
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> find a piece of art with a rendering of this cat and give it to her as
> consolation.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thank you.
Cathy Friedmann - 25 Nov 2004 16:16 GMT
> An associate of mine recently lost her cat of 19 years.  A close
> friend of hers told me that the cat was of the type "brendel".
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> find a piece of art with a rendering of this cat and give it to her as
> consolation.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thank you.

I think the word you're looking for is probably "brindle".

In a cat, that coloring of a coat makes me think of a "tortoiseshell", or
"tortie" for short.  As you said, similar to a calico - but sans the white.

(The build of the body has nothing to do with it, though - a cat can be
small, thin, large, fat, or medium sized, & still have a brindled/tortie
coat.)

Cathy
-L. : - 30 Nov 2004 06:50 GMT
> An associate of mine recently lost her cat of 19 years.  A close
> friend of hers told me that the cat was of the type "brendel".
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> find a piece of art with a rendering of this cat and give it to her as
> consolation.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thank you.

With the exception of her chest (which is more calico), Mimi is a
classic Tortie:

http://groups.msn.com/idontmindsCompanionAnimalConnection/shoebox.msnw?action=Sh
owPhoto&PhotoID=6


-L.
Mary - 30 Nov 2004 16:54 GMT
> > An associate of mine recently lost her cat of 19 years.  A close
> > friend of hers told me that the cat was of the type "brendel".
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> With the exception of her chest (which is more calico), Mimi is a
> classic Tortie:

http://groups.msn.com/idontmindsCompanionAnimalConnection/shoebox.msnw?action=Sh
owPhoto&PhotoID=6


> -L.

In other words, tortoiseshell cats have NO white. This is a really
common coloration. Most are dark like Mimi, but some are
lighter, like my RB cat below:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/crazyaboutfelines/detail?.dir=9d3a&.dnm=bd26.jpg&.
src=ph


She was what is known as a blue-cream tortoiseshell, with gray and buff
tones instead of black and red.
The only requirement for being called "tortoiseshell" or as many say
"tortie" is that
they have no white. If they have any white at all they are considered
calico.
ceb - 30 Nov 2004 17:14 GMT
"Mary" <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> wrote in news:NA1rd.7774$yC2.692140
@twister.southeast.rr.com:

> She was what is known as a blue-cream tortoiseshell, with gray and buff
> tones instead of black and red.
> The only requirement for being called "tortoiseshell" or as many say
> "tortie" is that
> they have no white. If they have any white at all they are considered
> calico.

I have seen cats I would describe as tortie and white -- calicos tend to
have clearly defined patches of color that are distinct from each other,
while torties have more of a mottled effect. Of course if they have no
white and the red and black are all mixed up, that's a tortie. One website
I found said that generally, the more white a cat has, the more distinct
the patches are.

I find it all fascinating. Rosalie has patches of grey tabby, patches of
red tabby, and large white areas.

--Catherine
& Rosalie the calicohead
http://www.catster.com/?58131
Mary - 30 Nov 2004 17:43 GMT
> "Mary" <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> wrote in news:NA1rd.7774$yC2.692140
> @twister.southeast.rr.com:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> have clearly defined patches of color that are distinct from each other,
> while torties have more of a mottled effect.

Yes, I agree! I just meant that this is how The People Who Decide
What We Call Cat Coloration decide it!

>Of course if they have no
> white and the red and black are all mixed up, that's a tortie. One website
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I find it all fascinating. Rosalie has patches of grey tabby, patches of
> red tabby, and large white areas.

Me too. This site shows some of the coat colors and terms. I think my girl
was actually a lilac cream tortie:

http://www.devons.com/color.html
J1Boss - 30 Nov 2004 19:15 GMT
>> I have seen cats I would describe as tortie and white -- calicos tend to
>> have clearly defined patches of color that are distinct from each other,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>What We Call Cat Coloration
>decide it!

Carey (in my link) is a classic tortie.  Mitze (need to put a pic up!) was a
blue/cream or dilute tortie w/white - white chest and paws.  I have always
thought of calico as large patches and more white (and the white being
predominant or at least not restricted to the "boots").

I think torties tend to have some of the most unique and fun personalities (and
seem to almost always be petite?).

Janet Boss
http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/
http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience
Mary - 30 Nov 2004 20:03 GMT
> Carey (in my link) is a classic tortie.  Mitze (need to put a pic up!) was a
> blue/cream or dilute tortie w/white - white chest and paws.  I have always
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I think torties tend to have some of the most unique and fun personalities (and
> seem to almost always be petite?).

Yes, maybe because they are almost always females, unless they are
sterile males?
ceb - 30 Nov 2004 20:07 GMT
> I think torties tend to have some of the most unique and fun
> personalities (and seem to almost always be petite?).

They are really special, aren't they? Come to think of it, I don't know
that I've ever seen a gigantic calico or tortie, but then most of the truly
enormous cats I have known have been males, and calicos are almost always
females.

--Catherine
& Rosalie the calicohead
-L. : - 30 Nov 2004 22:42 GMT
> >> I have seen cats I would describe as tortie and white -- calicos tend to
> >> have clearly defined patches of color that are distinct from each other,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Carey (in my link) is a classic tortie.

Carey looks a lot like Mimi.

> Mitze (need to put a pic up!) was a
> blue/cream or dilute tortie w/white - white chest and paws.  I have always
> thought of calico as large patches and more white (and the white being
> predominant or at least not restricted to the "boots").

IME, they look like patchwork quilts - all three colors very distinct
and jumbled up.

> I think torties tend to have some of the most unique and fun personalities (and
> seem to almost always be petite?).

Not always but often, I think.  I knew a tortie that was HUGE.  Mimi
is about 12 lbs - average I think.  Torties are the Snickers cat -
half sweet, half nuts.

-L.
KellyH - 30 Nov 2004 23:07 GMT
> I think torties tend to have some of the most unique and fun personalities
> (and
> seem to almost always be petite?).

My calico Dash (RB) got to be very big.  She was around 17 lbs at her
heaviest!  I think if I hadn't been a Young and Stupid Pet Owner, she would
have been smaller. She had this little head on a big body.  Here's a few
pics of her when she was large.  I apologize for the crappiness of the
pictures, I really should rescan them.

http://www.snittens.com/DashTrib3.html
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-Kelly
kelly at farringtons dot net

"Wake up, and smell the cat food" - TMBG

J1Boss - 30 Nov 2004 23:13 GMT
>I think if I hadn't been a Young and Stupid Pet Owner, she would
>have been smaller. She had this little head on a big body.  Here's a few
>pics of her when she was large.  I apologize for the crappiness of the
>pictures, I really should rescan them.
>
>http://www.snittens.com/DashTrib3.html

she's cute.  and huge!  ;-D

Janet Boss
http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/
http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience
-L. : - 01 Dec 2004 03:19 GMT
> > I think torties tend to have some of the most unique and fun personalities
> > (and
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> http://www.snittens.com/DashTrib3.html

She's so cute, Kelly.  I love the markings on her face. :)

-L.
Sherry - 01 Dec 2004 15:05 GMT
>> My calico Dash (RB) got to be very big.  She was around 17 lbs at her
>> heaviest!  I think if I hadn't been a Young and Stupid Pet Owner, she would
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>-L.

Biskit is also unusual. She's like a calico/tortie/tuxedo. Her paws & chest are
white, like a tux, her face like a calico, but her body like a tortie.
http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/bikkie.jpg

Sherry
ceb - 01 Dec 2004 15:18 GMT
> Biskit is also unusual. She's like a calico/tortie/tuxedo. Her paws &
> chest are white, like a tux, her face like a calico, but her body like
> a tortie. http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/bikkie.jpg

Biskit is extremely extra-gorgeous. And has a cute name too!

--Catherine
& Rosalie the calicohead
Cheryl - 02 Dec 2004 22:29 GMT
> Biskit is also unusual. She's like a calico/tortie/tuxedo. Her
> paws & chest are white, like a tux, her face like a calico, but
> her body like a tortie.
> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/bikkie.jpg 

Whoa. I haven't seen a picture of her lately and I'm just stunned!
She's really blossomed!

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Cheryl

Cathy Friedmann - 02 Dec 2004 23:01 GMT
> Biskit is also unusual. She's like a calico/tortie/tuxedo. Her paws & chest are
> white, like a tux, her face like a calico, but her body like a tortie.
> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/bikkie.jpg

Oh, wow - isn't she pretty! :-)

Cathy

> Sherry
Sherry - 03 Dec 2004 00:39 GMT
>http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/bikkie.jpg
>
>Oh, wow - isn't she pretty! :-)
>
>Cathy

Oh, thank you, Cheryl & Cathy. Here's her "before" picture, the night she
strayed up. Apologies if you've seen it before. I'm just so proud of her, just
love showing her off. She's a neat cat.
http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/calico.jpg

Sherry
Cathy Friedmann - 03 Dec 2004 00:52 GMT
> >http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/bikkie.jpg
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> love showing her off. She's a neat cat.
> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/calico.jpg

I don't think I've seen this one - don't remember it, at any rate.  She
definitely looks bedraggled here - although you can tell she has a lot of
potential, & she spiffed up extremely nicely with subsequent care!

Cathy

> Sherry
-L. : - 03 Dec 2004 14:17 GMT
> >> My calico Dash (RB) got to be very big.  She was around 17 lbs at her
> >> heaviest!  I think if I hadn't been a Young and Stupid Pet Owner, she would
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Sherry

Gorgeous, Sherry!  I wouldn't want to groom her though, LOL....

-L.
Sherry - 03 Dec 2004 14:25 GMT
>Gorgeous, Sherry!  I wouldn't want to groom her though, LOL....
>
>-L.

For sure. Her hair is angora-fine and fly-away, always static-y. We had to
almost completely shave her from that first pic. She rolls on the carpet, and
looks like a wild woman.
http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/bikkiebadhairday.jpg

Sherry
Mary - 03 Dec 2004 15:49 GMT
Her hair is angora-fine and fly-away, always static-y. We had to
> almost completely shave her from that first pic. She rolls on the carpet, and
> looks like a wild woman.
> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/bikkiebadhairday.jpg

She really is lovely. I like those plushy lookiing white feeties! :)
-L. : - 04 Dec 2004 03:39 GMT
> >Gorgeous, Sherry!  I wouldn't want to groom her though, LOL....
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Sherry

That's the kind of hair that matts easily - in Persians at least.  :)

-L.
-L. : - 30 Nov 2004 22:38 GMT
> I find it all fascinating. Rosalie has patches of grey tabby, patches of
> red tabby, and large white areas.
>
> --Catherine
> & Rosalie the calicohead
> http://www.catster.com/?58131

We know that as a Torbie.  Pretty cool cats, IMO.

-L.
 
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