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Cat restless with apparent discomfort & clear vaginal discharge

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Randy W. Sims - 25 Nov 2004 09:46 GMT
I have a Tonkinese kitten of about ~6 months. She was fine yesterday,
but I noticed this morning (4am Eastern Time) that she seems to have
some abdominal discomfort from the way she keeps rolling around and
trying to reposition herself constantly. There also appears to be a
minute discharge of clear liquid/gel-like substance from the vagina.

I'm still new to cats and don't know what might be going on. After I
send this I plan to do some googling, and if nothing else calling an
animal hospital within the next hour.

If anyone is online with ideas, I would be gratefull. Even suggestions
of a good cat vet in Atlanta, GA that would be open.

Thanks,
Randy.
Mary - 25 Nov 2004 11:44 GMT
> I have a Tonkinese kitten of about ~6 months. She was fine yesterday,
> but I noticed this morning (4am Eastern Time) that she seems to have
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> If anyone is online with ideas, I would be gratefull. Even suggestions
> of a good cat vet in Atlanta, GA that would be open.

Randy, do get her in to the vet. It sounds serious.
Randy W. Sims - 25 Nov 2004 12:10 GMT
>>I have a Tonkinese kitten of about ~6 months. She was fine yesterday,
>>but I noticed this morning (4am Eastern Time) that she seems to have
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>
> Randy, do get her in to the vet. It sounds serious.

I started to. I called a local emergency vet and was going to take her
in. But as I was on the phone she had a bowel movement-a normal healthy
movement, which was a relief to me. At least it wasn't an obstruction. I
decide to wait a while and watch her close. She seemed to improve some,
but I was still worried. I put her in the car (without a carrier as she
was fairly inactive and I wanted to watch her). Less than a mile and she
was all over the car exploring acting normal, so I turned around. I've
still been watching her close. She's improved but something still seems
to be wrong. I noticed several times one of her eyes is staying partly
closed, sometimes twitching, and just a few moments ago was teared up. I
don't know if her eye is causing all the other discomfort or the
discomfort is causing her eye to tear up. But the latter seems less
likely since it is just the one eye.

I have no idea what is going on. But I'm watching very closely. If it
weren't for noticeable improvement over the last hour, I'd be at the vet
now. I'm still hoping it's just a tummy ache or that she got into
something that's caused some irritation... I did find a can of Glade
deodorizing spray with the top missing behind a cabinet, but that was
probably the work of my ferrets when they were out of the cage. I don't
see how any of them could discharge it. Likely the top broke off when
they pushed it off the cabinet. Of course, an irritant like that would
probably cause the same symptoms wouldn't it?

Randy.
Alison - 25 Nov 2004 12:30 GMT
Hi Randy , Has she been spayed, is it likely she is coming into
season?
  Alison

> I have a Tonkinese kitten of about ~6 months. She was fine yesterday,
> but I noticed this morning (4am Eastern Time) that she seems to have
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> Thanks,
> Randy.
Randy W. Sims - 25 Nov 2004 12:55 GMT
> Hi Randy , Has she been spayed, is it likely she is coming into
> season?
>    Alison

She hasn't been spayed yet. I'm supposed to have that done this month,
~6 months old.

Randy.
~*Connie*~ - 25 Nov 2004 14:15 GMT
> > Hi Randy , Has she been spayed, is it likely she is coming into
> > season?
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>
> Randy.

Yup.  She is in heat.
Karen Chuplis - 25 Nov 2004 14:52 GMT
>>> Hi Randy , Has she been spayed, is it likely she is coming into
>>> season?
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>
> Yup.  She is in heat.

That was actually the first thought that popped into my mind too. Just the
right age as well.
MacCandace - 25 Nov 2004 17:21 GMT
<< That was actually the first thought that popped into my mind too. Just the
right age as well. >>

Me, too.  I don't know about the eye thing but constantly rolling around and
trying to reposition herself and the clear discharge are signs of heat.  Is she
meowing a lot, too?

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Randy W. Sims - 25 Nov 2004 22:04 GMT
> << That was actually the first thought that popped into my mind too. Just the
> right age as well. >>
>
> Me, too.  I don't know about the eye thing but constantly rolling around and
> trying to reposition herself and the clear discharge are signs of heat.  Is she
> meowing a lot, too?

Ok, now I feel like an idiot. Maybe this is why she seems to
particularly like it right now when I scratch her flanks, and why she
sticks her rear end up in the air while scratching there also. This is
something I hadn't read up on as I didn't expect it to come up. I think
the first thing I'll do tomorrow (everythings closed for Thanksgiving
now) is find some good  books. When I got my ferrets, I did all kinds of
research: books, magazines, newsgroups. But I didn't really read up on
cats when I got my Tonk. I guess I was thinking things would be a little
common sense & obvious.

Meanwhile, is there any online reference or can anyone give me any
pointers. Is there anything I should or should not do? She's an indoor
cat and will obviously be remaining indoors for the moment. How long
does it last? I was planning on getting her spayed within the next two
weeks, do I have to wait. With ferrets it's a bit more dangerous when
they're in heat. I've even read that it can be life threatening unless
they couple or are "treated", but I don't seem to recall hearing such
things about cats.

Thanks,
Randy.
Karen Chuplis - 25 Nov 2004 22:53 GMT
>> << That was actually the first thought that popped into my mind too. Just the
>> right age as well. >>
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> Thanks,
> Randy.

You don't really have to do anything (except of course, get her spayed as
soon as you can).  The length of it and how often it happens is individual
to the cat. It can try your patience, because they can be very vocal,
incredibly obnoxiously needy and some may even urinate in a "marking" manner
(not a problem I encountered but it can happen.) Mostly, just be patient
with her and get her fixed as soon as is convenient. They will not want to
do it when she is in heat, so you need to catch her off cycle. Good luck.
zuzu22@webtv.net - 26 Nov 2004 06:08 GMT
Karen wrote:
>Mostly, just be patient with her and get
>her fixed as soon as is convenient. They
>will not want to do it when she is in heat,
>so you need to catch her off cycle.

I disagree. Taking this approach could mean weeks of waiting, and no vet
that is worth their salt is going to tell a client to wait until the cat
is between heats. Cats can be safely spayed while in heat and it's done
all the time. The idea that it is somehow dangerous to do so is a myth.

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MacCandace - 26 Nov 2004 19:26 GMT
<< Cats can be safely spayed while in heat and it's done
all the time. The idea that it is somehow dangerous to do so is a myth. >>

My first cat, Emily, who I found with her litter of kittens, was spayed while
she was in heat.  It cost $5 extra but big deal.  

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ceb - 29 Nov 2004 15:16 GMT
zuzu22@webtv.net wrote in news:16180-41A6C876-1002@storefull-
3255.bay.webtv.net:

> Karen wrote:
>>Mostly, just be patient with her and get
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> is between heats. Cats can be safely spayed while in heat and it's done
> all the time. The idea that it is somehow dangerous to do so is a myth.

Hmmm, when my dog was in heat the vet was willing to spay her anyway, but
recommended against it -- there's more blood, and it's a harder operation,
so why not wait? Better to do such serious surgery at an optimal time, and
there's no harm in waiting (for an indoor cat).

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Sherry - 26 Nov 2004 15:30 GMT
>It can try your patience, because they can be very vocal,
>incredibly obnoxiously needy and some may even urinate in a "marking" manner
>(not a problem I encountered but it can happen.)

"Obnoxiously needy" is an excellent description of my experience with a cat in
heat. Biskit also peed everywhere, which also stopped abruptly when she got
spayed.

Sherry

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Cathy Friedmann - 25 Nov 2004 23:29 GMT
> Ok, now I feel like an idiot. Maybe this is why she seems to
> particularly like it right now when I scratch her flanks, and why she
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> they couple or are "treated", but I don't seem to recall hearing such
> things about cats.

No, not life-threatening if she's not spayed immediately, but keeping to the
idea of having her done w/in the next couple of weeks is a good idea.  It's
better if she's out of heat when the spay is done, but not mandatory.
She'll probably be out of heat by the time the appt. rolls around - unless
she goes right into another heat - which does sometimes happen.

Cathy
Mary - 26 Nov 2004 00:58 GMT
> > << That was actually the first thought that popped into my mind too. Just the
> > right age as well. >>
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> particularly like it right now when I scratch her flanks, and why she
> sticks her rear end up in the air while scratching there also.

See, I told you it was serious. If you allow an intact male cat near
this cat, it might result in KITTENS!;)

Don't feel stupid.
Mary - 26 Nov 2004 01:00 GMT
> With ferrets it's a bit more dangerous when
> they're in heat. I've even read that it can be life threatening unless
> they couple or are "treated

I thought that was just something the boy ferrets told the
girl ferrets. ;)
Alison - 27 Nov 2004 00:47 GMT
> > With ferrets it's a bit more dangerous when
> > they're in heat. I've even read that it can be life threatening unless
> > they couple or are "treated
>
> I thought that was just something the boy ferrets told the
> girl ferrets. ;)

 LOL
Alison
Randy W. Sims - 27 Nov 2004 01:06 GMT
>>>With ferrets it's a bit more dangerous when
>>>they're in heat. I've even read that it can be life threatening
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>
>   LOL

Hmm, I wonder who's taking leasons from whom...

Randy.
Mary - 27 Nov 2004 03:03 GMT
> > > With ferrets it's a bit more dangerous when
> > > they're in heat. I've even read that it can be life threatening
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>   LOL
>  Alison

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Nomen Nescio - 26 Nov 2004 08:20 GMT
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From: "Randy W. Sims" <RandyS@ThePierianSpring.org>

>Ok, now I feel like an idiot.

Well......You're not the first.
Back, decades ago, I brought my first "kitten" to the vet's for shots one day
and that night she started acting as you described, with the discharge.
I was concerned that she might be having a bad reaction to the shot so I
called the vet and woke him up at 10:30 at night. He (quite nicely under the
circumstances) informed me that my cat was going into heat.
I had to endure him laughing about that night for the next ten years of vet
visits until he retired.
Do you feel a little less "like an idiot", now?
Diane L. Schirf - 25 Nov 2004 18:08 GMT
> > Hi Randy , Has she been spayed, is it likely she is coming into
> > season?
> >    Alison
>
> She hasn't been spayed yet. I'm supposed to have that done this month,
> ~6 months old.

To me it sounds like heat, especially the rolling around.

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Phil P. - 26 Nov 2004 06:12 GMT
> I have a Tonkinese kitten of about ~6 months. She was fine yesterday,
> but I noticed this morning (4am Eastern Time) that she seems to have
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> If anyone is online with ideas, I would be gratefull. Even suggestions
> of a good cat vet in Atlanta, GA that would be open.

You're cat probably is in heat, but an exam wouldn't hurt - to be on the
safe side.

Females can go into heat by as early as 4 months.  If I were you, I'd
schedule an appointment to have her neutered as soon as possible.

Phil
Dennis Carr - 26 Nov 2004 23:45 GMT
> I have a Tonkinese kitten of about ~6 months. She was fine yesterday,
> but I noticed this morning (4am Eastern Time) that she seems to have
> some abdominal discomfort from the way she keeps rolling around and
> trying to reposition herself constantly. There also appears to be a
> minute discharge of clear liquid/gel-like substance from the vagina.

Sounds like she's in heat, but no way of knowing without seeing her.  A
vet visit is in order.  Get her fixed once she gets through.

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