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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / November 2004Female cat urine vs. male cat urine
Can anyone tell me, if you have your cats neutered/spayed, are there any noticeable difference in the strengths or kinds of smell of the male as opposed to the female, or are they much the same to the human nose? Thanks. I would say pretty much the same once a cat is spayed or neutered. Gail > Can anyone tell me, if you have your cats neutered/spayed, are there any > noticeable difference in the strengths or kinds of smell of the male as > opposed to the female, or are they much the same to the human nose? > > Thanks. > I would say pretty much the same once a cat is spayed or neutered. > Gail Thanks. I asked because someone here (can't remember who) mentioned in passing, a week or so ago, that they THOUGHT females were less smelly, so I just though it would be worthwhile getting people's opinions. Anyway, great progress this end. Cat-flap installed between conservatory and kitchen. Door-stop purchased for door between kitchen and living-room so it can't be fully closed. Then once they're into the living-room they'll have the run of all the other rooms in the house. A cat-flap and tunnel through the conservatory wall goes into a specially-installed small lockable outdoor room, fully ventilated, water-proof, with masses of room for storage of two deep trays, two bags of litter, scoops, and a spare bit of floor-space. So the cats will have their own "loo", out of the way, separate, private, and fully accessible, just like the humans. Now for the creation or installation of the various toys! Thanks for all helpfulness, folks. > So the cats will have their own "loo", out of the way, separate, > private, and fully accessible, just like the humans. Humans can tell you when they're having elimination problems... How will you know if your cats are straining to poop or piss if their litter boxes are out of sight? > Humans can tell you when they're having elimination problems... How will > you know if your cats are straining to poop or piss if their litter boxes > are out of sight? If cats have urination or defecation problems, these present themelves in a number of ways. Cats do not have to be monitored every time they enter their trays. (Many cats are extremely well-cared for although they have uninterrupted access to the outdoors, to gardens, where they defecate entirely naturally and unseen.) However, whether the cat is an indoor cat or a cat with outdoor access, there are two major changes which will be noticed if there are problems. Firstly, the cats' behaviour in the rest of the house or property will usually indicate that something is awry - the cat will not be "itself", it will seem restless, perturbed, it may possibly be continually on the move, possibly seeking to move its bowels in unusual places. The cat should then be monitored "at litter" (keep a constant eye on the cat, and always follow it to its tray, and maybe bring it's tray nearer convenient view). The second general cause for concern is a change in the animal's urea - a reduction, an increase, or an unexplained qualitative change. Lastly, a cat's right to privacy while eliminating should always be respected, even if it is ill, so one should never make one's concerned observation obvious. Cats prefer to eliminate in a place hidden from the view of other animals, and humans. >> Humans can tell you when they're having elimination problems... How will >> you know if your cats are straining to poop or piss if their litter boxes [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > one's concerned observation obvious. Cats prefer to eliminate in a > place hidden from the view of other animals, and humans. I had a cat years ago that had recurrent episodes of UTI. I learned to recognize the symptoms very early, and the earliest symptoms always involved the litterbox -- for example, straining but urinating only an extremely small amount (if any), or too-frequent "visits" to the litterbox. Other behavioral changes seemed to come later than litterbox changes. After the first couple of episodes, I learned to watch the litterbox closely, and I caught all future episodes *before* there were any other behavioral changes (and in an early stage for treatment). MaryL > > Humans can tell you when they're having elimination problems... How will > > you know if your cats are straining to poop or piss if their litter boxes [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > one's concerned observation obvious. Cats prefer to eliminate in a > place hidden from the view of other animals, and humans. Oh no! A British CP. Wonderful. Now, there're *two* of them! I want you to know I really tried hard to respond to your post seriously and constructively few times, but every time I tried I started laughing at your assinine and utterly stupid nonsense. I'll try once more for the sake of the unfortunate cats in your possession (I couldn't bring myself to say " in your care") I already know I'm wasting my time because the CP syndrome is impenetrable.. "Firstly", Einstein, cats mask their pain and discomfort because it makes them appear weak, and therefore vulnerable to predators. This defense mechanism has been hardwired into all cats for millennia - whether they're indoor or outdoor cats. When a cat shows her pain its only because she can no longer conceal it. By that time, the damage is often irreversible. "Secondly", Aristotle, I wasn't suggesting that you stand guard at the litter box like a guard at Buckingham Palace. I said to put the boxes quiet, low-traffic areas but where you can observe the cats' behavior. I hope you have female cats; because the only way you would know a male cat had a urinary tract obstruction is when you found him *dead* from acute renal failure. From day one, your only concern was urine odor. So, spare me your bullshit about "a cat's right to privacy". What or whom created this inordinate fear you have of urine odor? Are you normally paranoid and obsessive or do you have friends whose homes wreak of urine because they're utter slobs who don't clean the litter boxes, and now you think your home will stink like theirs? What about shedding? How are you going to react to fur on your sofa, bed, rug? What are you going to do when your cats hack up hairballs or saliva on your floor or bed? Freak out and go into a frenzy? I'm seriously question your suitability to be entrusted with a cat's life. Perhaps fish would suit you better since they eat, piss and sh.t in a container. > Can anyone tell me, if you have your cats neutered/spayed, are there any > noticeable difference in the strengths or kinds of smell of the male as > opposed to the female, or are they much the same to the human nose? I really think you've been over-reacting to this whole urine smell thing. ;-) If you keep the litter boxes clean you won't have a urine odor in your home. Its as simple as that. I have five cats and there is no urine smell in my home. Btw, its not a good idea to place the litter boxes in obscure places where you can't see your cats' litter box activities. Put the litter boxes in a quiet, low traffic area where you can easily see the box. Otherwise, you won't know if your cats are straining to urinate or defecate - which would incicate a medical problem. Waste products as well as litter box behavior can be early warning signs of illness. Good luck. Phil > Thanks. >If you keep the litter boxes clean you won't have a urine odor in your > home. Its as simple as that. I have five cats and there is no urine smell > in my home. > > Btw, its not a good idea to place the litter boxes in obscure places where > you can't see your cats' litter box activities. I wanted to add that I agree with this. I have two cats, two boxes, and scoop each once a day. There is never a urine smell in my house. One box is in a lower level utility room, the other is front and center in the master bedroom where I sleep. Meaning, right in front of my tall bureau across from the bed. While my sniffy sister (who likes to leave hers out in the garage where she can forget about it until the cat does a pile in the corner of the living room out of frustration or disgust) looks down her nose at the location of Cheeky's box, it works for me. You can SEE that it is a cat box but you sure can't smell it. And I never forget about it. AND I can shut her in with us at night and she has everything she needs. (I keep her litter and scooper in my master bath off in a corner.) The room is very pretty, but not spoiled by the clean cat box, in my opinion. >>If you keep the litter boxes clean you won't have a urine odor in your >> home. Its as simple as that. I have five cats and there is no urine [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I wanted to add that I agree with this. I have two cats, two boxes, and > scoop each once a day. There is never a urine smell in my house. Three (3) neutered, four (4) spayed, five (5) boxes, zero (0) odor. Carefully grooming the surface of the litter at the conclusion of each scooping session makes it easier to ascertain the need for further scooping later in the day. >> Can anyone tell me, if you have your cats neutered/spayed, are there any >> noticeable difference in the strengths or kinds of smell of the male as [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >> Thanks. I have found the same thing. There should not be *any* odor if litterboxes are kept clean and there are no health problems. And, yes, it is very important to monitor litterbox habits. UTI can progress very quickly from an easily treatable problem to a potentially fatal disease. MaryL > Can anyone tell me, if you have your cats neutered/spayed, are there any > noticeable difference in the strengths or kinds of smell of the male as > opposed to the female, or are they much the same to the human nose? > > Thanks. As long as you keep the boxes clean and the cats healthy, nope. Scoopable (clumping) litter is the best for keeping the room fresh-smelling, IMO.  Signature-- ~kaeli~ Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace >Can anyone tell me, if you have your cats neutered/spayed, are there any >noticeable difference in the strengths or kinds of smell of the male as >opposed to the female, or are they much the same to the human nose? If a male cat is neutered, he is less likely to spray. Spray is pee generally on a vertical surface like the side of the couch or desk. This pee will smell more than pee in a litter box as there is no litter to mask the smell. Their pee will smell more if they are dehydrated, have kidney or liver issues or are sick. I don't think I've ever noticed a difference in female vs male urine. Of course I've never had a female spray. I rehab squirrels also. Male squirrels urine is much stronger. They use it to mark their territory. Females mark their territory as well but their urine doesn't smell as much. Ground squirrels urine is stinkier than tree squirrels. >From: Tales of Orpheus orph@v21.me.uk >Can anyone tell me, if you have your cats neutered/spayed, are there any >noticeable difference in the strengths or kinds of smell of the male as >opposed to the female, or are they much the same to the human nose? I don't notice a difference between my male's urine or my female's. I always scoop out the box and I've never really noticed any odor. I use Swheat Scoop litter which is made from wheat. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm > Can anyone tell me, if you have your cats neutered/spayed, are there any > noticeable difference in the strengths or kinds of smell of the male as > opposed to the female, or are they much the same to the human nose? > > Thanks. Why? |
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