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Lez Hammans - 14 Nov 2004 10:18 GMT
We've had our Felix-style rescue cat, Mambo, for about 6 years now and we
were told he was around  4 when we brought him home. He's only notionally
male as he had the op prior to adoption.

When he first came to us he was a bit (not to put too fine a point on it!)
fat, weighing in at just over 20lbs - though he is quite big-boned. Now,
though he still weighs 15lbs, he's looking quite thin and bony except for
his pink bits which are a bit slack. As well as losing weight he is losing
fur around his haunches, and he yells for food every time someone moves - I
mean EVERY time! He even follows the dog downstairs hoping he's at last
learnt to operate the can-opener! You would think we are starving and
neglecting him but nothing could be further from the truth. He's always
liked his grub but has become increasingly demanding.

He eats around a tin of Whiskas plus biscuits a day. He's fed this in 3 or 4
sittings otherwise he will gorge himself and then throw up. He doesn't seem
to be scratching much at all or drinking excessively and the rest of his fur
is quite sleek. His eyes are clear and he doesn't appear overly stressed:
he's usually curled up near or on one of us, quite contented - he's not an
'out' cat.

My forearms are just starting to heal where I wormed him a couple of weeks
ago and I've not seen any evidence of fleas or worms.

Any of you experts out there any ideas please?

Thanks -

Lez

PS. I'd better just say that messages of some newsgroups only seem to stay
on my server for two days so, if I've vanished by Tuesday, I appreciate your
efforts.
Karen Chuplis - 14 Nov 2004 11:51 GMT
> We've had our Felix-style rescue cat, Mambo, for about 6 years now and we
> were told he was around  4 when we brought him home. He's only notionally
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> on my server for two days so, if I've vanished by Tuesday, I appreciate your
> efforts.

He needs to see a vet. He could have a thyroid problem that can be treated
with medication.
Mary - 14 Nov 2004 16:16 GMT
> We've had our Felix-style rescue cat, Mambo, for about 6 years now and we
> were told he was around  4 when we brought him home. <snips>
> Thanks -
>
> Lez

I agree with Karen, the first thing that comes to mind is that he might be
hyperthyroid. The vocalizing and insatiable hunger are clear signs. (I have
a cat with this. It can be corrected with two inexpensive pills a day. There
are also flat-out cures that are more expensive but then you have no
pilling.)
Regardless of what it is, you will feel better after a visit to the vet. (It
is almost
always cheaper than I think it is going to be, esp for just a checkup and
blood and urine work.)

That said, I just wanted to add that I think Mambo was very fortunate to be
rescued by you because it sounds as though you take very good care of him.
He is only ten--he could live another 10 years or so! I hope he does. Let us
know how it turns out.
Robin Cook - 14 Nov 2004 21:56 GMT
I, too, agree.  The symptoms described fit the bill for hyperthyroidism.
Get Felix in to see the vet pronto before he loses more weight.  The
constant bit of putting down food for him and eating only a few bites, then
acting hungry with plenty of food is highly indicative of this condition.
He is young enough to consider the radio-iodine treatment (costly, but
effective and have heard much better quality of living than using the
thyroid pills .. been thru that myself with my sweetie who was too old for
this radio treatment).  You will find him constantly hovering and bugging
you for food and you open another can only for him to maybe eat a bite or
two.  His appearing near manic over food is typical behavior.  Vomiting,
hair loss, weight loss .. all are symptoms of hyper-T.  Get Felix to the vet
FAST.  Rapid weight loss is another very serious consideration with hyper-T
... he can become dehydrated and constipated quickly which can lead to other
vital organ failures/problems.  Pick up the phone as soon as you can and
call the vet.
Lez - 15 Nov 2004 10:49 GMT
Thank you Karen & Mary for your advice. I'll try to get him to the vet this
week; I just need to plan the bank robbery first.

Seriously, thanks very much.

Lez
Lez - 15 Nov 2004 10:53 GMT
And thank you, Robin, too. Sorry, I'm not used to newsgroups; I should have
downloaded the new headers before I replied, shouldn't I?

Thanks again.

Lez
Robin Cook - 15 Nov 2004 14:18 GMT
Lez,

No problem, I knew what you meant.  You won't need to rob a bank for the vet
bill.  I must say that the initial costs are no fun.  One thing you might do
is find out about a reduced cost that some vet clinics do for what's called
a complete blood panel (including checking the thyroid) for adult/elderly
cats (which they will perform for younger cats).  I found a place that did
all the blood and labs for $100.  What is costly further is to have several
of the thyroid testings done over a course of time for the vet to adjust the
dosage and schedule of the medicine for your cat.  Then call around to
different pharmacies for the prescription for the best price possible.  If
you get the generic Rx, it is definitely cheaper, but it may not be as
effective as others here may tell you.  One problem I had was my cat would
trick me with the pills .. I'd find it on the rug under the table or under a
chair or wherever.  And, of course, this would throw off his body's
adjustment to the meds, making followup bloodwork more difficult ...
especially when I had no way of knowing if the pill I found was a new one or
from the day before.  He was taking it twice a day.  I believe there is a
liquid available, so you might wish to ask your vet about this.  I am sorry
to say that in my opinion I'm at 100% in feeling this is what the diagnosis
for your sweetie.

Even though my cat was too old and had other health issues to have the radio
iodine treatment, I did explore the subject.  I suggest finding out as much
as possible about this for Felix and plan your budget for doing it.
> And thank you, Robin, too. Sorry, I'm not used to newsgroups; I should have
> downloaded the new headers before I replied, shouldn't I?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Lez
Lez - 15 Nov 2004 16:11 GMT
Robin,

Further thanks for your follow-up. Having done a bit more research on the
net after reading your posts, and spoken with a neighbour too who does a
fair impression of Catwoman (she seems to collect them wherever she goes), I
think you're definitely correct in your diagnosis. I'll get to the vets as
soon as I can and will bear in mind your advice re blood panelling - though,
despite your financial diagnosis, I fear oak panelling will be cheaper! For
the whole street!

Funny you should say about regurgitated pills; I've just found my dog's
salazopyrin (sorry about spelling!) on the stairs despite sinking my arm
into his face up to my elbow. He's usually so good with his tablets and,
unlike Mambo (who only looks like a Felix!), he doesn't try to separate my
skin from my skeleton at medicine time. Just as well seeing as how he's a
Japanese Akita! Ah well, another tin, another try.

Cheers -

Lez
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