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Laila - 09 Nov 2004 03:16 GMT
my boyfriend had become allergic to Shaina.  :(  damn sensitization!
over the past 2 months he has been getting more and more allergic to
her.  he is not going into an anaphylactic shock, or anything like
that, but it's pretty bad.  is there anything we can do to help him
with that?  i have something to wipe her down with, called Simple
Solution that needs to be used weekly.  i don't think it's helping.
the only thing that helps him is bennadryl and that knocks  him out.
we are not giving her away.  any other allergy sufferers here?  how
did you deal with that?

-L
Mimi Forsyth - 09 Nov 2004 03:45 GMT
your boyfriend could take (prescription) Allegra or some other
antihistamine..it's him, not the cat. \

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Laila - 09 Nov 2004 05:57 GMT
>your boyfriend could take (prescription) Allegra or some other
>antihistamine..it's him, not the cat. \
>
>www.mimiforsyth.com

ahm, yeah, it's him.  ok.  i wouldn't be asking if he didn't try Rx
medication.

-L
Luvskats00 - 09 Nov 2004 09:54 GMT
chochowin@aol.com  (Mimi Forsyth) writes

>your boyfriend could take >(prescription) Allegra or some other
>antihistamine..it's him, not the cat. \

Uh..she knows that. Perhaps the boyfriend could see an allergist to work on the
remedy. Over-the-counter meds (plus Allegra) doesn't work for many.
MacCandace - 10 Nov 2004 02:31 GMT
<< Uh..she knows that. Perhaps the boyfriend could see an allergist to work on
the
remedy. Over-the-counter meds (plus Allegra) doesn't work for many. >>

I remember hearing that a Rx drug called Accolade (or something like that) was
very good for cat allergies.

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Phil P. - 10 Nov 2004 02:39 GMT
> << Uh..she knows that. Perhaps the boyfriend could see an allergist to work on
> the
> remedy. Over-the-counter meds (plus Allegra) doesn't work for many. >>
>
> I remember hearing that a Rx drug called Accolade (or something like that) was
> very good for cat allergies.

Close.  Its called Accolate.

Phil
Laila - 10 Nov 2004 23:42 GMT
>> << Uh..she knows that. Perhaps the boyfriend could see an allergist to
>work on
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Phil

he used to use this drug called reactin, which is the same thing as
zertec.  i didn't realize that.  he'll be getting that.  i found
rhinocort around here, so that's helping.  tomorrow, i will bathe
Shaina.  that should be loads of fun.

-L
J1Boss - 10 Nov 2004 13:39 GMT
>I remember hearing that a Rx drug called Accolade (or something like that)
>was
>very good for cat allergies.
>
>Candace

Accolate is an asthma medication.  It has been a lifesaver for me (and yes, I'm
allergic to dogs and cats, and own 2 of each, who all sleep in the bedroom -
only 1 cat on the bed).  

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Karen Chuplis - 09 Nov 2004 05:33 GMT
> my boyfriend had become allergic to Shaina.  :(  damn sensitization!
> over the past 2 months he has been getting more and more allergic to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> -L

Zrytec. Have him go see a doctor and get on somehing like that. It won't
knock him out or he could even try the over the counter claritin.
Laila - 09 Nov 2004 06:00 GMT
>> my boyfriend had become allergic to Shaina.  :(  damn sensitization!
>> over the past 2 months he has been getting more and more allergic to
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>Zrytec. Have him go see a doctor and get on somehing like that. It won't
>knock him out or he could even try the over the counter claritin.

they don't work. :(  he can go through tons of those, but benadryl is
the only one that actually works well.  he is taking singular
prophylactically, but apparently it doesn't do the trick.
i guess hepa filter is something we should look into.
-L
mlbriggs - 09 Nov 2004 06:10 GMT
>>> my boyfriend had become allergic to Shaina.  :(  damn sensitization!
>>> over the past 2 months he has been getting more and more allergic to
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> prophylactically, but apparently it doesn't do the trick.
> i guess hepa filter is something we should look into.

Electrostatic and hepa filters.  Also vacuum regularly.  Are you up to
bathing the cat?  
> -L
Laila - 09 Nov 2004 17:13 GMT
>>>> my boyfriend had become allergic to Shaina.  :(  damn sensitization!
>>>> over the past 2 months he has been getting more and more allergic to
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>Electrostatic and hepa filters.  Also vacuum regularly.  Are you up to
>bathing the cat?  

thanks.  i can bathe her, no problem.  she'll bite and scream, but she
doesn't hurt much.  doesn't bathing make her skin more dry and make
the dander flake off?

_L
Cat Protector - 09 Nov 2004 18:30 GMT
It depends on the shampoo you use and the cat. Regularly bathing helps
reduce the dander and of course helps get rid of loose hair. People who show
cats bathe their felines all the time before each show. This is why you see
so many at them that look clean and have finer coats. Part of it is
conditioning and the other is because they bathe them a couple of days
before each show so the coat's natural oils can form again.

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"Laila" <illyria@torment.chaos> wrote in message

> thanks.  i can bathe her, no problem.  she'll bite and scream, but she
> doesn't hurt much.  doesn't bathing make her skin more dry and make
> the dander flake off?
>
> _L
MacCandace - 10 Nov 2004 02:32 GMT
How about allergy shots?

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Cat Protector - 10 Nov 2004 04:16 GMT
That too might work. I am not sure if the cat is the problem or not. The OP
seemed to state that her boyfriend became allergic a couple of months ago.
She also said that he could be allergic to anything because he has asthma
and also has a room she said is dusty and dirty. If the cat has been in
there then it is possible she is carrying the allergen from something she
stepped in or rolled around in. The OP also stated that her boyfriend
sneezed for the rest of the day from cat litter. I am beginning to think it
may not be cat dander but other causes now. An allergy medication might help
but perhaps an allergy doctor might be helpful in this situation.

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> How about allergy shots?
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> other
> than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Luvskats00 - 10 Nov 2004 05:20 GMT
"Cat Protector" catprotector@cox.net
writes

>"...The OP
>seemed to state that her boyfriend >became allergic a couple of months ago.
>She also said that he could be allergic to anything because he has asthma
>and also has a room she said is dusty and dirty..."

I had presumed he had confirmation  on what caused his allergy(ies). Of course,
the first thihg to do is to discover what one is allergic to...cats, dust,
pollen, litter, etc.
Laila - 10 Nov 2004 23:39 GMT
> "Cat Protector" catprotector@cox.net
>writes
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>the first thihg to do is to discover what one is allergic to...cats, dust,
>pollen, litter, etc.

he hasn't had any allergies for 4 years he's been in nyc and for 2
years in this apartment.  he started getting more allergic, most
obviously, to Shaina in the past 2 months.  that's a common occurrence
and is called sensitization.  the longer the person is exposed to an
allergen, the more his immune system "learns" to react against it.
since when he pets and touches the cat he starts having an allergy
attack and when he is not touching the cat for a while he doesn't it'
is logical to presume that he is allergic to cat, not other stuff.
yes, his room is dusty, but it's been like that all the time.

-L
Cat Protector - 11 Nov 2004 06:24 GMT
You seem to be confusing things here. You say he has asthma yet he hasn't
had allergies for 4 years? What about your statement that he always has
allergies when he goes home to Vancouver and that he has a dusty and dirty
room. That could be exactly where the allergen has originated and if the cat
rolls around in the dust and dirt she could be carrying the allergen around
on her hair. From the way you post it sounds like are trying to lay the
blame on the cat as being the cause when a dirty room or apartment can
probably hold all types of allergens.

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"Laila" <illyria@torment.chaos> wrote in message

> he hasn't had any allergies for 4 years he's been in nyc and for 2
> years in this apartment.  he started getting more allergic, most
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> -L
Laila - 11 Nov 2004 20:03 GMT
>You seem to be confusing things here. You say he has asthma yet he hasn't
>had allergies for 4 years?

he hadn't had chronic allergies in NYC.  he is allergic to whatever is
in the air in Vancouver, BC, where he is from.  when he goes there, he
has allergies.  he was also allergic to our friends' dog and broke out
in rash where the dog licked him on the face and was sneezing.
his asthma is triggered by various things, but it's not that bad.

>What about your statement that he always has
>allergies when he goes home to Vancouver

there, he has allergies to whatever is in the air in BC.

>and that he has a dusty and dirty
>room.

since dust is dead skin cells, then there are plenty of dead cat skin
cells that had accumulated over months in his dusty room.

>That could be exactly where the allergen has originated and if the cat
>rolls around in the dust and dirt she could be carrying the allergen around
>on her hair.

she doesn't "roll around in the dust".  she is not a chinchilla.

>From the way you post it sounds like are trying to lay the
>blame on the cat as being the cause when a dirty room or apartment can
>probably hold all types of allergens.

that's nice.  "blame the cat".  yes, it's all Shaina's fault that her
dander is an allergen.  that's because she is responsible for the
allergic properties of her dander and her saliva and she sent those
evil particles to do her evil bidding and thus to cause an immediate
hypersensitivity reaction in my boyfriend.  it's also all my
boyfriend's fault that his IgE's are overactive and react to Shaina's
evil dander allergens.  i think i shall banish them both because i
think they consorted to torment me from now to perpetuity, while i
ponder the ways to put an end to their devious plot. /rolls eyes.

-L
KellyH - 11 Nov 2004 21:30 GMT
> she doesn't "roll around in the dust".  she is not a chinchilla.

Even if she did have dust on her and that was the cause, the BF would be
sneezing in his dusty room, too.

> that's nice.  "blame the cat".  yes, it's all Shaina's fault that her
> dander is an allergen.  that's because she is responsible for the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> think they consorted to torment me from now to perpetuity, while i
> ponder the ways to put an end to their devious plot. /rolls eyes.

hahaha!  *Love* your response!
CP, it is possible for someone to love their cat and be allergic to it.
People are allergic to cats sometimes, it does happen.
Laila, your boyfriend should go get allergy testing to find out exactly what
he is allergic to, and then you can go from there.  My DH had allergy
testing and came up allergic to cats, among other things.  He also has
asthma, and his asthma meds (Pulmacort?) helps immensely.  I have terrible
dust mite and pollen allergies, so between the two of us, we're always
sneezy, itchy eyes, etc.

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Laila - 11 Nov 2004 22:48 GMT
>> she doesn't "roll around in the dust".  she is not a chinchilla.
>
>Even if she did have dust on her and that was the cause, the BF would be
>sneezing in his dusty room, too.

true.  

>> that's nice.  "blame the cat".  yes, it's all Shaina's fault that her
>> dander is an allergen.  that's because she is responsible for the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>hahaha!  *Love* your response!

hehe, thanks. :)

>CP, it is possible for someone to love their cat and be allergic to it.
>People are allergic to cats sometimes, it does happen.

i really don't see what one has to do with another, especially since
he was the first one to day that we are not giving her away.

>Laila, your boyfriend should go get allergy testing to find out exactly what
>he is allergic to, and then you can go from there.  My DH had allergy
>testing and came up allergic to cats, among other things.  He also has
>asthma, and his asthma meds (Pulmacort?) helps immensely.  I have terrible
>dust mite and pollen allergies, so between the two of us, we're always
>sneezy, itchy eyes, etc.

he has albuterol for asthma.  he doesn't have a corticosteroid
inhaler, but he has rhicnocort nose spray.  just got more info from
him: he's been allergy tested and he's allergic to pollen, some other
plant stuff and cats.  he was getting allergy shots for about 8 months
and he stopped going because they weren't helping (not because he was
too lazy.  bad me.)  he is doing really well on rhinocort now, but
i'll bathe Shaina anyway.  his room does need some serious cleaning,
but the rest of the apartment is clean.

-L
J1Boss - 11 Nov 2004 22:51 GMT
>he has albuterol for asthma.  he doesn't have a corticosteroid
>inhaler, but he has rhicnocort nose spray.

albuterol is a rescue inhaler - he needs meds to PREVENT the asthma attack.  He
really needs to see an allergist again.  Accolate, Advair - good meds that
prevent.

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Laila - 11 Nov 2004 23:45 GMT
>>he has albuterol for asthma.  he doesn't have a corticosteroid
>>inhaler, but he has rhicnocort nose spray.
>
>albuterol is a rescue inhaler - he needs meds to PREVENT the asthma attack.  He
>really needs to see an allergist again.  Accolate, Advair - good meds that
>prevent.

rhinocort is preventative.  so is singulair, which is the same type of
drug as accolate. advair sounds cool.  he does need to see an
allergist, you are right, especially since he'll be running out of
rhinocort and singulair.

-L
Mary - 12 Nov 2004 00:15 GMT
> >he has albuterol for asthma.  he doesn't have a corticosteroid
>>inhaler, but he has rhicnocort nose spray.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> really needs to see an allergist again.  Accolate, Advair - good meds that
> prevent.

I can't believe the difference just a few weeks on Advair had made for me.
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 06:49 GMT
You can't be allergic to the cat but what the cat might have on its hair.
For example, if someone were allergic to pollons they can carry it in from
the outside on their clothing or even skin. Same goes for cats. If they are
outside and come in they can bring it in on their hair. I myself am an
allergy sufferer but I find it hard to believe that someone could go to one
place and not have allergies and then travel to another and not have them
(going from one state and travelling to another for example).

Cats don't just suddenly say "hey, let's have our human sneeze and develop
some more allergies for them." Allergins can travel in all sorts of ways and
I don't think a cat is an allergin. They do however roll around in all sorts
of things and can bring whatever they rolled around in to their human
causing them to sneeze if they have allergies.

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> hahaha!  *Love* your response!
> CP, it is possible for someone to love their cat and be allergic to it.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> dust mite and pollen allergies, so between the two of us, we're always
> sneezy, itchy eyes, etc.
Laila - 12 Nov 2004 14:40 GMT
>You can't be allergic to the cat but what the cat might have on its hair.
>For example, if someone were allergic to pollons they can carry it in from
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>of things and can bring whatever they rolled around in to their human
>causing them to sneeze if they have allergies.

are you an immunologist?  "you can't be allergic to the cat", but you
"can be allergic to the room"?  guess what, a person travels to an
different area.  there are different plants there, not the same bloody
ones that he is used to.  guess what?  he develops an allergy to the
pollen from those plants.  it's called an immediate hypersensitivity
reaction mediated by T cells.  
allergies don't "travel".  people travel. you are ignorant and
annoying.
the cat is an indoor cat so if she "rolls around", it's in the same
stuff that's always been in the bloody apartment.

-L
Laila - 12 Nov 2004 14:51 GMT
>>You can't be allergic to the cat but what the cat might have on its hair.
>>For example, if someone were allergic to pollons they can carry it in from
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>pollen from those plants.  it's called an immediate hypersensitivity
>reaction mediated by T cells.  
i am sorry, the immediate hypersensitivity reaction is mediated by
IgEs and the delayed hypersensitivity reaction, which is the case
here, is mediated by T cells.  

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CP, why don't you read this and stop asking annoying questions.

-L
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 17:18 GMT
I was trying to help. The best way is to ask questions. I started to find
your posts confusing however since you seem to jump around and paint the cat
as the cause without considering any other possibility.

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"Laila" <illyria@gmail.com> wrote in message

> CP, why don't you read this and stop asking annoying questions.
>
> -L
Laila - 12 Nov 2004 17:33 GMT
>I was trying to help. The best way is to ask questions. I started to find
>your posts confusing however since you seem to jump around and paint the cat
>as the cause without considering any other possibility.

you are not helping.  you are saying idiotic things. besides, the
problem has been resolved without you "help".   read the damn web site
to which i posted a link.  I KNOW HOW THIS WORKS.  you DON'T and you
don't read the posts. go back to my posts and reread them.  if you
still don't understand what i am talking about, give up.  it's beyond
your comprehension.  the cat is the only possibility.  yes, i am
blaming the cat.  she is evil.  it is her bloody fault my boyfriend is
sneezing.  she is the root of all evil in the universe.  

-L
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 18:19 GMT
It is obvious you didn't need anyone's help which makes me ask the question
why you posted in the first place?

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"Laila" <illyria@gmail.com> wrote in message

> you are not helping.  you are saying idiotic things. besides, the
> problem has been resolved without you "help".   read the damn web site
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> -L
Laila - 12 Nov 2004 17:41 GMT
>I was trying to help. The best way is to ask questions. I started to find
>your posts confusing however since you seem to jump around and paint the cat
>as the cause without considering any other possibility.

you know what, call the ASPCA and tell them that i am abusing the cat
by saying that she may be the cause of my boyfriend's allergies. ok?
everyone else seems to be able to follow what i wrote, except for you.
my conclusion is that you are incapable of understanding fairly simple
things, or you are being an a.s on purpose.

-L
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 18:23 GMT
Obviously you are very incapable of having an adult discussion without
turning to put downs and name calling. I was trying to help but obviously
you didn't need it. BTW, when someone is confused it is normal for the
person to say so. They don't expect the other person to call them stupid but
rather explain things to clear up the matter. You did nothing more than jump
from one thing to another.

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> you know what, call the ASPCA and tell them that i am abusing the cat
> by saying that she may be the cause of my boyfriend's allergies. ok?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> -L
Mary - 12 Nov 2004 18:56 GMT
> Obviously you are very incapable of having an adult discussion without
> turning to put downs and name calling. I was trying to help but obviously
> you didn't need it. BTW, when someone is confused it is normal for the
> person to say so. They don't expect the other person to call them stupid
> but rather explain things to clear up the matter. You did nothing more
> than jump from one thing to another.

*looking around*

Hey, this is exactly what you always say to me. I didn't
say ANYTHING to you this time.

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[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>> -L
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 17:15 GMT
No. I am not an immunologist but you seem to be blaming the cat for all your
boyfriend's ills when in fact their could be another source. BTW, name
calling is not necessary especially when people are trying to help. I find
your posts a little more confusing on this issue. First you say that your
boyfriend didn't have problems for the first two months with the cat, now he
has problems with the cat regarding allergies. Then you stated he hadn't had
problems in 4 years yet you stated he has a dirty room and has problems with
them in Vancouver. Blaming the cat seems a little bit easy here and I am not
sure if you are forgetting some facts. As far as allergies not traveling,
people and animals get allergies, allergens can travel. There are plenty of
allergens that can travel by air. Pollens for example can do this. Molds
also can do so as well. Dust is also another allergen.

You stated that your boyfriend has a messy and dusty room yet the rest of
your apartment is clean. Perhaps your cat has been in his room and layed on
top of something she shouldn't have. Another explanation for possible
cleaners can also be certain cleaners as well. You may want to look at that
as well. An allergy specialist can help in this situation.

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"Laila" <illyria@gmail.com> wrote in message

> are you an immunologist?  "you can't be allergic to the cat", but you
> "can be allergic to the room"?  guess what, a person travels to an
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> -L
Luvskats00 - 11 Nov 2004 22:04 GMT
Laila illyria@torment.chaos writes
>since dust is dead skin cells, then >there are plenty of dead cat skin
>cells that had accumulated over >months in his dusty room.

Not quite. Dust is:
fine particles of matter (as of earth)
the particles into which something disintegrates
the earth especially as a place of burial b : the surface of the ground
Laila - 11 Nov 2004 22:51 GMT
>Laila illyria@torment.chaos writes
>>since dust is dead skin cells, then >there are plenty of dead cat skin
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>the particles into which something disintegrates
>the earth especially as a place of burial b : the surface of the ground

does contains all sorts of stuff including dead skin cells, i should
've said.  we don't live anywhere near earth. :)  so our dust is dead
skin cells, dead insect parts, feather parts from pillows, molds, and
probably some pollen from the summer.
what do you mean "place of burial?" of where the cat buries her poop?

-L
Phil P. - 13 Nov 2004 08:53 GMT
> does contains all sorts of stuff including dead skin cells, i should
> 've said.  we don't live anywhere near earth. :)  so our dust is dead
> skin cells, dead insect parts, feather parts from pillows, molds, and
> probably some pollen from the summer.

...and dust mites - which are well known allergens.  Imagine these nasty
looking things crawling around in your nostrils....

http://www.maxshouse.com/ImageDatabase/Dust_Mite.jpg
Laila - 13 Nov 2004 18:35 GMT
>> does contains all sorts of stuff including dead skin cells, i should
>> 've said.  we don't live anywhere near earth. :)  so our dust is dead
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>http://www.maxshouse.com/ImageDatabase/Dust_Mite.jpg

yak.  where do they come from and what do they eat?  why do they live
in dust?

-L
Phil P. - 13 Nov 2004 19:47 GMT
> >> does contains all sorts of stuff including dead skin cells, i should
> >> 've said.  we don't live anywhere near earth. :)  so our dust is dead
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> yak.  where do they come from and what do they eat?

Mostly dead skin that people and animals shed.  People shed about 1/4 oz of
skin/week. So, your (anybody's) mattress (unless its sealed) is harboring at
least a few hundred thousand to a few million dust mites - not counting your
pillow.

"Nighty night; don't let the bed bugs bite" suddenly has new meaning! LOL!

You chauffeur them around from one room to the next and from house to house
on your clothes.  Their digestive enzymes are what makes people wheeze.
You'll never get rid of all them.

You can see the nasty critters with a 10-15x jewler's or printer's loupe.

why do they live
> in dust?

Because dust contains "tons" of skin flakes and other organic material.  The
stuff you see floating in the air in a beam of sunlight coming through your
window is almost all skin flakes.

Creepy, huh?

Phil

> -L
Laila - 13 Nov 2004 21:39 GMT
>"Laila" <illiria@gmail.com> wrote in message

>> >...and dust mites - which are well known allergens.  Imagine these nasty
>> >looking things crawling around in your nostrils....
>> >http://www.maxshouse.com/ImageDatabase/Dust_Mite.jpg
>>
>> yak.  where do they come from and what do they eat?

>Mostly dead skin that people and animals shed.  People shed about 1/4 oz of
>skin/week.

i never thought of it in volume.  ick.  i guess since my boyfriend has
psoriasis, he sheds more skin.

> So, your (anybody's) mattress (unless its sealed) is harboring at
>least a few hundred thousand to a few million dust mites - not counting your
>pillow.

oh god, that's utterly gross!

>"Nighty night; don't let the bed bugs bite" suddenly has new meaning! LOL!

i thought it referred to body lice.  

>You chauffeur them around from one room to the next and from house to house
>on your clothes.  Their digestive enzymes are what makes people wheeze.
>You'll never get rid of all them.

/sigh  i was about to say i will do some major cleaning to get rid of
them.  well, at least we are getting rid of the dust, so there 'll be
fewer millions of them.

>You can see the nasty critters with a 10-15x jewler's or printer's loupe.

they look scary.

>why do they live  in dust?
>
>Because dust contains "tons" of skin flakes and other organic material.  The
>stuff you see floating in the air in a beam of sunlight coming through your
>window is almost all skin flakes.

so now we just have to find a way to become cyborgs.  hmmm  

>Creepy, huh?

yeah!

-L

>> -L
Hodge - 13 Nov 2004 23:26 GMT
> >"Nighty night; don't let the bed bugs bite" suddenly has new meaning! LOL!
>
> i thought it referred to body lice.  

It refers to bed bugs, an entirely different animal.
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Phil P. - 14 Nov 2004 02:41 GMT
> > >"Nighty night; don't let the bed bugs bite" suddenly has new meaning! LOL!
> >
> > i thought it referred to body lice.
>
> It refers to bed bugs, an entirely different animal.

No kidding.  Did you not see "Nighty night; don't let the bed bugs bite"
suddenly has ***new*** meaning"?  "*New*" - as in "Having been made or come
into being only a short time ago"....

I'll say it again in case you're skimming again....*New meaning* - *New
meaning* - since the subject is *dust mites* a/k/a Dermatophagoides farinae,
not Cimex lectularius.

Gotta watch that skimming! If you skim over your drivers license test you'll
be walking! LOL!

Nighty night; don't let the bed bugs bite....
Hodge - 14 Nov 2004 03:26 GMT
> > > >"Nighty night; don't let the bed bugs bite" suddenly has new meaning!
> LOL!
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> suddenly has ***new*** meaning"?  "*New*" - as in "Having been made or come
> into being only a short time ago"....

Uh, yes, I read it, thank you.
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Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 06:50 GMT
Dust is also an allergen.

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> Not quite. Dust is:
> fine particles of matter (as of earth)
> the particles into which something disintegrates
> the earth especially as a place of burial b : the surface of the ground
Laila - 12 Nov 2004 14:42 GMT
>Dust is also an allergen.

yes, dust.  dust itself.  it's the damn stuff that dust is composed
off that people are allergic to.  dust consists of a bunch of things.
my god, were you born that stupid, or were you dropped on your head
when you were a child?

-L
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 17:21 GMT
Your put downs are not necessary especially when someone is trying to help
you. You don't need to act so snooty or childish. I am an allergy sufferer
myself so you'd think I'd know a little about them. If you didn't want
advice or helpful tips then why did you post here?

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> yes, dust.  dust itself.  it's the damn stuff that dust is composed
> off that people are allergic to.  dust consists of a bunch of things.
> my god, were you born that stupid, or were you dropped on your head
> when you were a child?
>
> -L
Laila - 12 Nov 2004 17:39 GMT
>Your put downs are not necessary especially when someone is trying to help
>you. You don't need to act so snooty or childish. I am an allergy sufferer
>myself so you'd think I'd know a little about them. If you didn't want
>advice or helpful tips then why did you post here?

your allergies have gone to your head.  you know VERY little about
allergies.  so little that it amounts to nothing.  your "advice" is
useless and idiotic.  i posted here to see what other people use to
deal with cat allergies and I KNOW THIS IS AN ALLERGY TO A CAT and NOT
TO SOMETHING ELSE.   is that bloody clear to you?  in response, lots
of people replied with a variety of useful tips EXCEPT FOR YOU ,who is
fixated on "room as an allergen" on his paranoid delusions about my
"blaming the cat."  i am not putting your down.  i am expression my
opinion based on your recent posts.  an my opinion is that you are an
idiot.  an obsessive compulsive idiot.

-L
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 18:44 GMT
I may not be an expert on allergies such as yourself but I do know a little
about them. How did one such as yourself become so perfect?

You have no experience with cats at all since you made some very bold
statements about them such as they never rub up against or roll around in
things. They in fact do and thus might pick up an allergen unknowingly. Your
boyfriend is not allergic to cats but what they might have picked up. You
are very quick to fault the cat on this one. If he is so allergic to cats
then why did you state he now gives the cat nose kisses? You also had the
cat for 6 months before all this started. I find it odd that all of a sudden
he is allergic. I asked questions which is what a smart person does if they
need the air cleared. Your posts were very confusing.  Perhaps you need to
explain things so they are easier to understand not resort to name calling
and putdowns because some don't understand what you are trying to say.

I have said enough. One can't help someone that doesn't want to listen or
take the advice given to them.

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> your allergies have gone to your head.  you know VERY little about
> allergies.  so little that it amounts to nothing.  your "advice" is
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>
> -L
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 06:39 GMT
I still am confused here. He has allergies in one place, then doesn't have
them in another? Very odd. You claim the cat doesn't roll around in dust but
cats have been known to roll around on dirty floors and even outside. Cats
often rub up against surfaces. I am beginning to think you are blaming the
cat for the allergy since dust and things being brought in from the outside
can also carry the allergen. You don't seem to even want to aknowledge that
possibility. Also, a dirty room can also house allergens as well.

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>
>>You seem to be confusing things here. You say he has asthma yet he hasn't
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>
> -L
Sherry - 12 Nov 2004 07:40 GMT
>I still am confused here. He has allergies in one place, then doesn't have
>them in another? Very odd. You claim the cat doesn't roll around in dust but
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>can also carry the allergen. You don't seem to even want to aknowledge that
>possibility. Also, a dirty room can also house allergens as well.

What the cat rolls around in is irrelevant. The allergies are caused from
dander (dead skin cells) and protein from saliva. Dust allergies are a separate
issue that have nothing to do with the cat.
She's not "blaming" the cat. You're just trying to argue.

Sherry
Laila - 12 Nov 2004 14:37 GMT
>I still am confused here. He has allergies in one place, then doesn't have
>them in another? Very odd. You claim the cat doesn't roll around in dust but
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>can also carry the allergen. You don't seem to even want to aknowledge that
>possibility. Also, a dirty room can also house allergens as well.

no it's not odd.  why don't you go and learn some immunology and then
come back.  
my cat doesn't roll around in the dust.  any other questions?
cat's rub against surfaces?!?!  no way!  this is so odd.  i've never
seen anything like that!  /rolls eyes
you know what, see the first sentence and learn some immunology.
while you are at it, learn how to read.  i said in another post that
he's been tested for allergies.  can you read?  the only thing that
changed in the past 6 months is that we now have a cat.  do you know
what sensitization means?  look it up.  a "dirty" room doesn't cause
allergies.  the room is not an allergen. you are annoying the living
crap out of me with your dumb questions.

-L
Sherry - 12 Nov 2004 16:12 GMT
>no it's not odd.  why don't you go and learn some immunology and then
>come back.  
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>-L

CP annoys the crap out of the whole newsgroup. Do a quick google search on his
posts, and you'll learn to take anything he says with a grain of salt.

Sherry
Mary - 12 Nov 2004 17:28 GMT
> >no it's not odd.  why don't you go and learn some immunology and then
>>come back.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Sherry

Now, Sherry, is this really fair? I mean, when you say things like this you
only
alienate CP. Aren't we trying to help him. *tongue firmly planted in cheek*
Sherry - 12 Nov 2004 19:02 GMT
>Now, Sherry, is this really fair? I mean, when you say things like this you
>only
>alienate CP. Aren't we trying to help him. *tongue firmly planted in cheek*

You're going to have to shape up. We're never going to win the Fish in a Barrel
Olympics if you go all soft on me.

Sherry
Mary - 12 Nov 2004 20:53 GMT
> >Now, Sherry, is this really fair? I mean, when you say things like this
> >you
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> Barrel
> Olympics if you go all soft on me.

lol!
Laila - 12 Nov 2004 17:43 GMT
>>no it's not odd.  why don't you go and learn some immunology and then
>>come back.  
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>CP annoys the crap out of the whole newsgroup. Do a quick google search on his
>posts, and you'll learn to take anything he says with a grain of salt.

oh, i see.  does he do this on purpose, or is he not able to follow a
simple story line?
either way, thanks.  i won't be dealing with him anymore.

-L
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 18:47 GMT
I don't annoy the crap out of this newsgroup. There are some I get along
with just fine. Of course there are those such as yourself that know
everything and have so much time on their hands they need a flame war just
to make themselves look better than everyone else. What a shame.

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>>CP annoys the crap out of the whole newsgroup. Do a quick google search on
>>his
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>
> -L
Mary - 12 Nov 2004 18:57 GMT
>I don't annoy the crap out of this newsgroup. There are some I get along
>with just fine. Of course there are those such as yourself that know
>everything and have so much time on their hands they need a flame war just
>to make themselves look better than everyone else. What a shame.

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>> -L
Laila - 12 Nov 2004 19:16 GMT
>I don't annoy the crap out of this newsgroup. There are some I get along
>with just fine. Of course there are those such as yourself that know
>everything and have so much time on their hands they need a flame war just
>to make themselves look better than everyone else. What a shame.

yes, yes, to do.

PLONK your ignorant a.s.

-L
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 21:43 GMT
Why do I get this feeling that Laila is another one of Sherry's or her
follower's identities. Her childish responses seems to point in that
direction. I for one have no need for a flame war nor the time. It's amazing
that some suggest to search through Google to find past posts just to pick
on someone. Obviously people like this have way too much time on their
hands. It is a shame what this newsgroup has become.

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> yes, yes, to do.
>
> PLONK your ignorant a.s.
>
> -L
Sherry - 12 Nov 2004 19:04 GMT
>oh, i see.  does he do this on purpose, or is he not able to follow a
>simple story line?
>either way, thanks.  i won't be dealing with him anymore.
>
>-L

I'm not really sure if he's unable to comprehend a post or just plain obtuse.
But he'll read the first two lines of a post, fire off some inane reply, then
starts making idiotic accusations. Then he'll kick that dead horse until you
just ignore him. It's a pattern I've seen as long as I've been posting, which
is several years.

Sherry

Sherry
Laila - 12 Nov 2004 19:27 GMT
>>oh, i see.  does he do this on purpose, or is he not able to follow a
>>simple story line?
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>
>Sherry

he's been plonked.

-L
KellyH - 12 Nov 2004 21:18 GMT
> I'm not really sure if he's unable to comprehend a post or just plain
> obtuse.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Sherry

What a great summary of CP's posting style.  I can't decide whether or not
to killfile him because he's so frustrating to read, or keep him around for
amusement.

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Mary - 12 Nov 2004 21:36 GMT
>> I'm not really sure if he's unable to comprehend a post or just plain
>> obtuse.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> to killfile him because he's so frustrating to read, or keep him around
> for amusement.

Keep him around for amusement. Sometimes it is relaxing shooting rhetorical
fish in a
barrell. Like popping bubble wrap. And CP is too thick to really feel it
anyway.
God Bless him. (And I mean that, CP.) :)
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 21:36 GMT
It is amazing people listen to Sherry. She has very little knowledge of cats
and posts negatively about anyone who doesn't agree with her. I don't pay
much attention to people like that anymore. This newsgroup used to be a
great place to get information but now it has turned into a place where
people can use to have their own personal flame war. You can pick on me all
you want but I don't see how that is going to accomplish anything. Coming to
this place makes me appreciate the communty Cat Fancy established. Not too
many people fight on that cat board nor do we have to put up with too many
people that have to act childish and put others down. If you want to check
it out you can find it at www.catfancy.com.

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>> I'm not really sure if he's unable to comprehend a post or just plain
>> obtuse.
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> to killfile him because he's so frustrating to read, or keep him around
> for amusement.
KellyH - 12 Nov 2004 21:48 GMT
> It is amazing people listen to Sherry. She has very little knowledge of
> cats and posts negatively about anyone who doesn't agree with her.

Huh?  Must  be talking about a different Sherry.  Not the Sherry that
volunteers at a shelter and takes in the cats and kittens that people dump
in her area and feeds her cats quality food.

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Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 22:13 GMT
Is there more than one here that picks on people who don't share her views?
I only know of one that does that and causes a flame war. I know I have been
one she has tried to pick on. Before the allergy post she picked on me for
donating food and cat litter to the Humane Society. In the same post she
also posted negatively because I didn't take in one cat (could never find
the cat). I think the only time she didn't post anything was when I rescued
Icarus.

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> Huh?  Must  be talking about a different Sherry.  Not the Sherry that
> volunteers at a shelter and takes in the cats and kittens that people dump
> in her area and feeds her cats quality food.
Phil P. - 13 Nov 2004 10:50 GMT
> It is amazing people listen to Sherry. She has very little knowledge of cats

To use an analogy for comparison of your knowledge about cats and Sherry's,
Sherry is about as far above you as you are above an ameba.

The major difference between intelligent people and you is that intelligent
people know how ignorant they are, whereas idiots like you don't know how
stupid you are.  That's why you don't (can't) learn.
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 17:45 GMT
Cats do rub on surfaces and even up against surfaces. This is a way of
marking their territory and letting you know an area or object is theirs.
Cats are equipped with glands located glands located on different parts of
their body like the forehead, front paws, flanks, and even rear. When they
rub up against an object or even their human they secrete a pheremone which
tells the cat it is theirs. It is a form of communication. If you knew about
cats you would have known this fact. Cats can roll around in and brush up
against lots of things which might also house an allergen. You obviously
think otherwise so you must know something about cats the rest of the humane
race doesn't.

I read through your posts a couple of times and I find a few things
confusing. Your first said he never saw an allergest? Then you changed gears
and said he was tested and received allergy shots. Which is it? I am
confused. Why did you come here for help if you didn't want people to offer
advice or ask questions to better help you? I was trying to help and rule
out every possibility but you seem hell bent that it must be the cat when
there are so many other possibilities to rule out here. I guess one can't
help you since you already have all the answers here. I wish I was perfect
such as yourself and had all the answers. Thanks for allowing us to see
this.

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"Laila" <illyria@gmail.com> wrote in message

> no it's not odd.  why don't you go and learn some immunology and then
> come back.
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>
> -L
KellyH - 12 Nov 2004 17:41 GMT
>I still am confused here. He has allergies in one place, then doesn't have
>them in another? Very odd.

It's not very odd.  It's very common.  People can be allergic to the pollen
of a tree that grows in one area of a country and not the other.  Plus, the
climate of Vancouver and NYC is different.  In addition, people often move
to areas like the Southwest to escape their allergies, but find once they
start living there, they develop allergies to the local pollens.

>You claim the cat doesn't roll around in dust but cats have been known to
>roll around on dirty floors and even outside.

THE CAT DOES NOT GO OUTSIDE!

>Cats often rub up against surfaces. I am beginning to think you are blaming
>the cat for the allergy since dust and things being brought in from the
>outside can also carry the allergen. You don't seem to even want to
>aknowledge that possibility. Also, a dirty room can also house allergens as
>well.

Because the  BF sneezes when he's holding the cat, not when he's in his
dusty room!
This is JMHO, but he's probably always been allergic, but now that the
windows are staying closed, the allergy is intensifying.

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Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 18:36 GMT
Well here is why I found it odd. He has allergies in Vancouver, yet didn't
have them in the current place of residency. Then after 6 months after
having a cat the OP said it was 2 months ago he was starting to have the
problem. Yes the climate of Vancouver and New York may be different but some
species of plants can grow in both places. As for escaping to the Southwest
because of allergies, that is not always true. My brother lives in
Washington state and has allergies but when he came here to visit he still
had to carry that breathing device for asthma and still had to use it on
occasion. Here in Arizona spring and fall are usually times when the pollen
count is high and many allergy sufferers sneeze, cough, and have watery
eyes.

As per my earlier post, I also stated a cat can roll around in things
inside. When the OP stated her boyfriend had a dirty room, I figured a cat
can still around in the dust and such. Allergens can also be inside as well
which the OP thinks is nonesence. As an allergy sufferer, allergens can be
carried even indoors by humans. If he has always had allergies around cat
hair which can carry an allergen then the OP did not state this. The OP
merely said she didn't have this problem until 2 months ago after having the
cat for 6 months. I found this odd so I asked the OP to explain and all I
get is name calling and put-downs. The OP is posting as if she knows it all.
She obviously doesn't know anything about cats if she is going to state they
never roll around or rub up against things. This is one explanation where a
cat could pick up and carry an allergen and not produce it themselves.

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> It's not very odd.  It's very common.  People can be allergic to the
> pollen of a tree that grows in one area of a country and not the other.
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> This is JMHO, but he's probably always been allergic, but now that the
> windows are staying closed, the allergy is intensifying.
Laila - 12 Nov 2004 19:16 GMT
>The OP is posting as if she knows it all.
>She obviously doesn't know anything about cats if she is going to state they
>never roll around or rub up against things. This is one explanation where a
>cat could pick up and carry an allergen and not produce it themselves.

you idiot. where did i say "cats NEVER roll around in the dust"?
quote this and show message id.  where did i way they don't rub
against things?  buy a brain, you ignorant fool.

-L
KellyH - 12 Nov 2004 21:20 GMT
CP wrote:

>As for escaping to the Southwest because of allergies, that is not always
>true. My brother lives in Washington state and has allergies but when he
>came here to visit he still had to carry that breathing device for asthma
>and still had to use it on occasion. Here in Arizona spring and fall are
>usually times when the pollen count is high and many allergy sufferers
>sneeze, cough, and have watery eyes.

Did you even read what I wrote?  I said, people often move to the Southwest
to escape their allergies, but then once they have been there for a while,
develop allergies to local pollens.

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Lena Sapozhnikoff - 12 Nov 2004 21:45 GMT
>CP wrote:
>
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>to escape their allergies, but then once they have been there for a while,
>develop allergies to local pollens.

wow! he is dense!  "a breathing device"?  a respirator?  does he mean
an inhaler?

-L
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 22:20 GMT
How is referring to an inhaler as a breathing device make someone dense? I
think it is disgusting that many of you resort to name calling and put downs
because someone doesn't post to your satisfaction or shares your viewpoint.
This newsgroup used to be a great place to come to get cat advice but now
has become a pretty bad place to come to if you want to post about anything
cat related. Yes there are a few good ones but I have to wonder how many
others people like yourself have chased away because they didn't hop on your
bandwagon.

I work to help save cats and care about them. I am not here to join someone
elses crusade to pick on people. I don't care whether people on here like me
or not. I side with the cats and prefer to help them in whatever fashion I
am able to. That is all that matters to me.

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> wow! he is dense!  "a breathing device"?  a respirator?  does he mean
> an inhaler?
>
> -L
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 21:45 GMT
I read exactly what you wrote. Plenty of people have moved here that had
allergies on the east coast and as stated end up dealing with the same or
new types of allergies.

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> Did you even read what I wrote?  I said, people often move to the
> Southwest to escape their allergies, but then once they have been there
> for a while, develop allergies to local pollens.
Sherry - 12 Nov 2004 19:08 GMT
>People can be allergic to the pollen
>of a tree that grows in one area of a country and not the other.  Plus, the
>climate of Vancouver and NYC is different.  In addition, people often move
>to areas like the Southwest to escape their allergies, but find once they
>start living there, they develop allergies to the local pollens.

Allergies are weird that way. Did you know that people can also be *more*
sensitive to a particular cat over another.
I also remember some study about lighter-haired cats bothering allergy
sufferers worse than light hairs. (or maybe the other way around).
It must be very frustrating and difficult to pinpoint the real source to treat.
Monique Y. Mudama - 18 Nov 2004 00:20 GMT
>>People can be allergic to the pollen of a tree that grows in one area of a
>>country and not the other.  Plus, the climate of Vancouver and NYC is
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> hairs. (or maybe the other way around).  It must be very frustrating and
> difficult to pinpoint the real source to treat.

*tiptoes into this mess*

My husband has been able to live with a long-haired grey female cat for years.
Introduce a short-haired black male cat (neutered), and his allergies went
nuts, and he got seriously sick several times over a one-month period.  I'm
guessing his immune system was affected enough that he became more susceptable
to whatever's making the rounds.

Combine this with my first cat's utter hatred/terror for the new cat, and
unfortunately we are looking for a new home for the boy, even though he is the
sweetest, most loveable cat we've ever met.  I've shed many a tear, and I'm
sure I'm not done.

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Laila - 12 Nov 2004 19:24 GMT
>>I still am confused here. He has allergies in one place, then doesn't have
>>them in another? Very odd.
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>to areas like the Southwest to escape their allergies, but find once they
>start living there, they develop allergies to the local pollens.

/sigh  you'd think this isn't a complex concept

>>You claim the cat doesn't roll around in dust but cats have been known to
>>roll around on dirty floors and even outside.
>
>THE CAT DOES NOT GO OUTSIDE!

also not a hard concept to grasp.  

>>Cats often rub up against surfaces. I am beginning to think you are blaming
>>the cat for the allergy since dust and things being brought in from the
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>This is JMHO, but he's probably always been allergic, but now that the
>windows are staying closed, the allergy is intensifying.

he'd been allergy tested when he was little, i guess, in Vancouver and
the test has shown that he is allergic to cats, among other things,
like pollen.  the way the do an allergy test is this: they prick the
skin several times with a needle containing an allergen and watch for
a wheel-and-flare reaction, where the area around pricked skin becomes
red and raised within few minutes.  now, when Shaina accidentally
scratches him (like when she thinks when he is wearing jeans he is a
good climbing tree), and that's been the case ever since we got her,
he gets the exact wheel-and-flare reaction.  we had a roommate here
with a cat before, but my bf never even picked him up for fear of an
allergy attack. the dusty room has been dusty for many many months,
before Shaina came here.  he didn't have any symptoms of an allergy.  

-L
J1Boss - 12 Nov 2004 19:34 GMT
>he'd been allergy tested when he was little, i guess, in Vancouver and
>the test has shown that he is allergic to cats, among other things,
>like pollen.

He really needs to be tested again.  Things change.  Allergies are also
cumulative.  In other words, the dust probably isn't HELPING him any.  The dust
alone may not have triggered anything, but the combo of the dust and the cat
does.  I don't know about you, but I'd rather live with a cat than dust! ;-D

> the way the do an allergy test is this: they prick the
>skin several times with a needle containing an allergen and watch for
>a wheel-and-flare reaction, where the area around pricked skin becomes
>red and raised within few minutes.  

Well, that's ONE type of allergy testing - no wheels though - "wheals".  LOL.
I remember the first time I had it done, kind of crossing my fingers and toes
that the cat and dog marks wouldn't react.  ACK - they were the first things to
turn huge.  Oh well.  That's what meds are for.

BTW - Rhinocort is not for asthma - as it's name implies, it's for nasal
allergies/inflamation.  I use it as well, but it has no real effect on asthma.

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Laila - 12 Nov 2004 20:05 GMT
>>he'd been allergy tested when he was little, i guess, in Vancouver and
>>the test has shown that he is allergic to cats, among other things,
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>alone may not have triggered anything, but the combo of the dust and the cat
>does.  I don't know about you, but I'd rather live with a cat than dust! ;-D

his room needs to be cleaned.  his rational for leaving the dust
undisturbed is that if it is moved, it will exacerbated his asthma.  i
am afraid i'll have to clean it when he is not in the room.  

>> the way the do an allergy test is this: they prick the
>>skin several times with a needle containing an allergen and watch for
>>a wheel-and-flare reaction, where the area around pricked skin becomes
>>red and raised within few minutes.  
>
>Well, that's ONE type of allergy testing - no wheels though - "wheals".  LOL.

:)   that's the only one he had.    

>I remember the first time I had it done, kind of crossing my fingers and toes
>that the cat and dog marks wouldn't react.  ACK - they were the first things to
>turn huge.  Oh well.  That's what meds are for.

rhinocort works well.

>BTW - Rhinocort is not for asthma - as it's name implies, it's for nasal
>allergies/inflamation.  I use it as well, but it has no real effect on asthma.

actually, according to various drug manuals, it's oral inhalation
preparation is used for prophylaxis of asthma.  it is also used for
treatment of seasonal rhinitis.   he is using it for allergy symptoms.
he doesn't really need prophylactic treatment for asthma because it's
really mild. he uses albuterol for asthma acutely.

-L
J1Boss - 12 Nov 2004 20:18 GMT
> i
>am afraid i'll have to clean it when he is not in the room.  

A ploy!  I;ve tried it - it hasn't worked! ;-D

>actually, according to various drug manuals, it's oral inhalation
>preparation is used for prophylaxis of asthma.  it is also used for
>treatment of seasonal rhinitis.   he is using it for allergy symptoms.
>he doesn't really need prophylactic treatment for asthma because it's
>really mild. he uses albuterol for asthma acutely.

I learned something new - I had no idea it came in an oral inhalation
preparation!  It keeps my nasal polyps at bay, so I'm pleased with that......

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Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 21:39 GMT
No. Dust never helps those with allergies. It makes things a little worse. I
too would rather live with the cats. I have 3 and never sneeze around them
but my allergies do act up when we have the high pollen counts and molds
during the Spring and Fall months.

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> He really needs to be tested again.  Things change.  Allergies are also
> cumulative.  In other words, the dust probably isn't HELPING him any.  The
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> http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience
Laila - 11 Nov 2004 19:47 GMT
>How about allergy shots?

he was getting allergy shots when he was way younger, but he stopped
going because "he was too lazy".  /rolls eyes.   i'm not sure if it's
done at the age of 27, but we'll ask if that's possible.  so far, i
found rhinocort and it's working great! :)

-L
Mary - 09 Nov 2004 07:07 GMT
> >> my boyfriend had become allergic to Shaina.  :(  damn sensitization!
> >> over the past 2 months he has been getting more and more allergic to
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> i guess hepa filter is something we should look into.
> -L

You should have been using the filters before he went on the drugs.
That said, if Zyrtec or Claritin do not work it may not be the cats he is
allergic to. Benedryl is a far inferior antihistamine. Does he LIKE cats?
kaeli - 09 Nov 2004 14:38 GMT
> That said, if Zyrtec or Claritin do not work it may not be the cats he is
> allergic to. Benedryl is a far inferior antihistamine.

For you, perhaps.
It's also the only one that works for me. Except it doesn't make me at all
drowsy, unlike the OP's BF.

People are different. Their systems are different. Which is why we have so
many options in pharmaceuticals.
Even painkillers take up half an aisle at the store. Excedrine works for
some, tylenol for others. Heck, I have three different kinds for different
painkillers just for myself. Headaches, muscle aches, and cramps all get
cured best by different medicines for me.

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Mary - 09 Nov 2004 16:55 GMT
> > That said, if Zyrtec or Claritin do not work it may not be the cats he
is allergic to. Benedryl is a far inferior antihistamine.

> For you, perhaps. It's also the only one that works for me. Except it
doesn't make me at all
> drowsy, unlike the OP's BF.

Hmm. I made the comment because I was taking Benedryl and my doctor told me
it was vastly inferior to other antihistamines. I found it to be true. I
should have figured it might be different for different people.
kaeli - 09 Nov 2004 19:44 GMT
> Hmm. I made the comment because I was taking Benedryl and my doctor told me
> it was vastly inferior to other antihistamines. I found it to be true. I
> should have figured it might be different for different people.

Your doctor doesn't make money from Benadryl.  *heh*
Coincidence...??? *grins*

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Mary - 09 Nov 2004 20:20 GMT
> > Hmm. I made the comment because I was taking Benedryl and my doctor told me
> > it was vastly inferior to other antihistamines. I found it to be true. I
> > should have figured it might be different for different people.
>
> Your doctor doesn't make money from Benadryl.  *heh*
> Coincidence...??? *grins*

Could be. <G> However, Benedryl puts me right to sleep. When I took it, I
had to take it at bed time. I love Claritin because i