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Laila - 09 Nov 2004 03:16 GMT my boyfriend had become allergic to Shaina. :( damn sensitization! over the past 2 months he has been getting more and more allergic to her. he is not going into an anaphylactic shock, or anything like that, but it's pretty bad. is there anything we can do to help him with that? i have something to wipe her down with, called Simple Solution that needs to be used weekly. i don't think it's helping. the only thing that helps him is bennadryl and that knocks him out. we are not giving her away. any other allergy sufferers here? how did you deal with that?
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Mimi Forsyth - 09 Nov 2004 03:45 GMT your boyfriend could take (prescription) Allegra or some other antihistamine..it's him, not the cat. \
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Laila - 09 Nov 2004 05:57 GMT >your boyfriend could take (prescription) Allegra or some other >antihistamine..it's him, not the cat. \ > >www.mimiforsyth.com ahm, yeah, it's him. ok. i wouldn't be asking if he didn't try Rx medication.
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Luvskats00 - 09 Nov 2004 09:54 GMT chochowin@aol.com (Mimi Forsyth) writes
>your boyfriend could take >(prescription) Allegra or some other >antihistamine..it's him, not the cat. \ Uh..she knows that. Perhaps the boyfriend could see an allergist to work on the remedy. Over-the-counter meds (plus Allegra) doesn't work for many.
MacCandace - 10 Nov 2004 02:31 GMT << Uh..she knows that. Perhaps the boyfriend could see an allergist to work on the remedy. Over-the-counter meds (plus Allegra) doesn't work for many. >>
I remember hearing that a Rx drug called Accolade (or something like that) was very good for cat allergies.
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Phil P. - 10 Nov 2004 02:39 GMT > << Uh..she knows that. Perhaps the boyfriend could see an allergist to work on > the > remedy. Over-the-counter meds (plus Allegra) doesn't work for many. >> > > I remember hearing that a Rx drug called Accolade (or something like that) was > very good for cat allergies. Close. Its called Accolate.
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Laila - 10 Nov 2004 23:42 GMT >> << Uh..she knows that. Perhaps the boyfriend could see an allergist to >work on [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Phil he used to use this drug called reactin, which is the same thing as zertec. i didn't realize that. he'll be getting that. i found rhinocort around here, so that's helping. tomorrow, i will bathe Shaina. that should be loads of fun.
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J1Boss - 10 Nov 2004 13:39 GMT >I remember hearing that a Rx drug called Accolade (or something like that) >was >very good for cat allergies. > >Candace Accolate is an asthma medication. It has been a lifesaver for me (and yes, I'm allergic to dogs and cats, and own 2 of each, who all sleep in the bedroom - only 1 cat on the bed).
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Karen Chuplis - 09 Nov 2004 05:33 GMT > my boyfriend had become allergic to Shaina. :( damn sensitization! > over the past 2 months he has been getting more and more allergic to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -L Zrytec. Have him go see a doctor and get on somehing like that. It won't knock him out or he could even try the over the counter claritin.
Laila - 09 Nov 2004 06:00 GMT >> my boyfriend had become allergic to Shaina. :( damn sensitization! >> over the past 2 months he has been getting more and more allergic to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Zrytec. Have him go see a doctor and get on somehing like that. It won't >knock him out or he could even try the over the counter claritin. they don't work. :( he can go through tons of those, but benadryl is the only one that actually works well. he is taking singular prophylactically, but apparently it doesn't do the trick. i guess hepa filter is something we should look into. -L
mlbriggs - 09 Nov 2004 06:10 GMT >>> my boyfriend had become allergic to Shaina. :( damn sensitization! >>> over the past 2 months he has been getting more and more allergic to [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > prophylactically, but apparently it doesn't do the trick. > i guess hepa filter is something we should look into. Electrostatic and hepa filters. Also vacuum regularly. Are you up to bathing the cat?
> -L Laila - 09 Nov 2004 17:13 GMT >>>> my boyfriend had become allergic to Shaina. :( damn sensitization! >>>> over the past 2 months he has been getting more and more allergic to [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Electrostatic and hepa filters. Also vacuum regularly. Are you up to >bathing the cat? thanks. i can bathe her, no problem. she'll bite and scream, but she doesn't hurt much. doesn't bathing make her skin more dry and make the dander flake off?
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Cat Protector - 09 Nov 2004 18:30 GMT It depends on the shampoo you use and the cat. Regularly bathing helps reduce the dander and of course helps get rid of loose hair. People who show cats bathe their felines all the time before each show. This is why you see so many at them that look clean and have finer coats. Part of it is conditioning and the other is because they bathe them a couple of days before each show so the coat's natural oils can form again.
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> thanks. i can bathe her, no problem. she'll bite and scream, but she > doesn't hurt much. doesn't bathing make her skin more dry and make > the dander flake off? > > _L MacCandace - 10 Nov 2004 02:32 GMT How about allergy shots?
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Cat Protector - 10 Nov 2004 04:16 GMT That too might work. I am not sure if the cat is the problem or not. The OP seemed to state that her boyfriend became allergic a couple of months ago. She also said that he could be allergic to anything because he has asthma and also has a room she said is dusty and dirty. If the cat has been in there then it is possible she is carrying the allergen from something she stepped in or rolled around in. The OP also stated that her boyfriend sneezed for the rest of the day from cat litter. I am beginning to think it may not be cat dander but other causes now. An allergy medication might help but perhaps an allergy doctor might be helpful in this situation.
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> How about allergy shots? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > other > than human." (Loren Eisely) Luvskats00 - 10 Nov 2004 05:20 GMT "Cat Protector" catprotector@cox.net writes
>"...The OP >seemed to state that her boyfriend >became allergic a couple of months ago. >She also said that he could be allergic to anything because he has asthma >and also has a room she said is dusty and dirty..." I had presumed he had confirmation on what caused his allergy(ies). Of course, the first thihg to do is to discover what one is allergic to...cats, dust, pollen, litter, etc.
Laila - 10 Nov 2004 23:39 GMT > "Cat Protector" catprotector@cox.net >writes [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >the first thihg to do is to discover what one is allergic to...cats, dust, >pollen, litter, etc. he hasn't had any allergies for 4 years he's been in nyc and for 2 years in this apartment. he started getting more allergic, most obviously, to Shaina in the past 2 months. that's a common occurrence and is called sensitization. the longer the person is exposed to an allergen, the more his immune system "learns" to react against it. since when he pets and touches the cat he starts having an allergy attack and when he is not touching the cat for a while he doesn't it' is logical to presume that he is allergic to cat, not other stuff. yes, his room is dusty, but it's been like that all the time.
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Cat Protector - 11 Nov 2004 06:24 GMT You seem to be confusing things here. You say he has asthma yet he hasn't had allergies for 4 years? What about your statement that he always has allergies when he goes home to Vancouver and that he has a dusty and dirty room. That could be exactly where the allergen has originated and if the cat rolls around in the dust and dirt she could be carrying the allergen around on her hair. From the way you post it sounds like are trying to lay the blame on the cat as being the cause when a dirty room or apartment can probably hold all types of allergens.
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> he hasn't had any allergies for 4 years he's been in nyc and for 2 > years in this apartment. he started getting more allergic, most [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -L Laila - 11 Nov 2004 20:03 GMT >You seem to be confusing things here. You say he has asthma yet he hasn't >had allergies for 4 years? he hadn't had chronic allergies in NYC. he is allergic to whatever is in the air in Vancouver, BC, where he is from. when he goes there, he has allergies. he was also allergic to our friends' dog and broke out in rash where the dog licked him on the face and was sneezing. his asthma is triggered by various things, but it's not that bad.
>What about your statement that he always has >allergies when he goes home to Vancouver there, he has allergies to whatever is in the air in BC.
>and that he has a dusty and dirty >room. since dust is dead skin cells, then there are plenty of dead cat skin cells that had accumulated over months in his dusty room.
>That could be exactly where the allergen has originated and if the cat >rolls around in the dust and dirt she could be carrying the allergen around >on her hair. she doesn't "roll around in the dust". she is not a chinchilla.
>From the way you post it sounds like are trying to lay the >blame on the cat as being the cause when a dirty room or apartment can >probably hold all types of allergens. that's nice. "blame the cat". yes, it's all Shaina's fault that her dander is an allergen. that's because she is responsible for the allergic properties of her dander and her saliva and she sent those evil particles to do her evil bidding and thus to cause an immediate hypersensitivity reaction in my boyfriend. it's also all my boyfriend's fault that his IgE's are overactive and react to Shaina's evil dander allergens. i think i shall banish them both because i think they consorted to torment me from now to perpetuity, while i ponder the ways to put an end to their devious plot. /rolls eyes.
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KellyH - 11 Nov 2004 21:30 GMT > she doesn't "roll around in the dust". she is not a chinchilla. Even if she did have dust on her and that was the cause, the BF would be sneezing in his dusty room, too.
> that's nice. "blame the cat". yes, it's all Shaina's fault that her > dander is an allergen. that's because she is responsible for the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > think they consorted to torment me from now to perpetuity, while i > ponder the ways to put an end to their devious plot. /rolls eyes. hahaha! *Love* your response! CP, it is possible for someone to love their cat and be allergic to it. People are allergic to cats sometimes, it does happen. Laila, your boyfriend should go get allergy testing to find out exactly what he is allergic to, and then you can go from there. My DH had allergy testing and came up allergic to cats, among other things. He also has asthma, and his asthma meds (Pulmacort?) helps immensely. I have terrible dust mite and pollen allergies, so between the two of us, we're always sneezy, itchy eyes, etc.
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Laila - 11 Nov 2004 22:48 GMT >> she doesn't "roll around in the dust". she is not a chinchilla. > >Even if she did have dust on her and that was the cause, the BF would be >sneezing in his dusty room, too. true.
>> that's nice. "blame the cat". yes, it's all Shaina's fault that her >> dander is an allergen. that's because she is responsible for the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >hahaha! *Love* your response! hehe, thanks. :)
>CP, it is possible for someone to love their cat and be allergic to it. >People are allergic to cats sometimes, it does happen. i really don't see what one has to do with another, especially since he was the first one to day that we are not giving her away.
>Laila, your boyfriend should go get allergy testing to find out exactly what >he is allergic to, and then you can go from there. My DH had allergy >testing and came up allergic to cats, among other things. He also has >asthma, and his asthma meds (Pulmacort?) helps immensely. I have terrible >dust mite and pollen allergies, so between the two of us, we're always >sneezy, itchy eyes, etc. he has albuterol for asthma. he doesn't have a corticosteroid inhaler, but he has rhicnocort nose spray. just got more info from him: he's been allergy tested and he's allergic to pollen, some other plant stuff and cats. he was getting allergy shots for about 8 months and he stopped going because they weren't helping (not because he was too lazy. bad me.) he is doing really well on rhinocort now, but i'll bathe Shaina anyway. his room does need some serious cleaning, but the rest of the apartment is clean.
-L
J1Boss - 11 Nov 2004 22:51 GMT >he has albuterol for asthma. he doesn't have a corticosteroid >inhaler, but he has rhicnocort nose spray. albuterol is a rescue inhaler - he needs meds to PREVENT the asthma attack. He really needs to see an allergist again. Accolate, Advair - good meds that prevent.
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Laila - 11 Nov 2004 23:45 GMT >>he has albuterol for asthma. he doesn't have a corticosteroid >>inhaler, but he has rhicnocort nose spray. > >albuterol is a rescue inhaler - he needs meds to PREVENT the asthma attack. He >really needs to see an allergist again. Accolate, Advair - good meds that >prevent. rhinocort is preventative. so is singulair, which is the same type of drug as accolate. advair sounds cool. he does need to see an allergist, you are right, especially since he'll be running out of rhinocort and singulair. -L
Mary - 12 Nov 2004 00:15 GMT > >he has albuterol for asthma. he doesn't have a corticosteroid >>inhaler, but he has rhicnocort nose spray. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > really needs to see an allergist again. Accolate, Advair - good meds that > prevent. I can't believe the difference just a few weeks on Advair had made for me.
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 06:49 GMT You can't be allergic to the cat but what the cat might have on its hair. For example, if someone were allergic to pollons they can carry it in from the outside on their clothing or even skin. Same goes for cats. If they are outside and come in they can bring it in on their hair. I myself am an allergy sufferer but I find it hard to believe that someone could go to one place and not have allergies and then travel to another and not have them (going from one state and travelling to another for example).
Cats don't just suddenly say "hey, let's have our human sneeze and develop some more allergies for them." Allergins can travel in all sorts of ways and I don't think a cat is an allergin. They do however roll around in all sorts of things and can bring whatever they rolled around in to their human causing them to sneeze if they have allergies.
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> hahaha! *Love* your response! > CP, it is possible for someone to love their cat and be allergic to it. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > dust mite and pollen allergies, so between the two of us, we're always > sneezy, itchy eyes, etc. Laila - 12 Nov 2004 14:40 GMT >You can't be allergic to the cat but what the cat might have on its hair. >For example, if someone were allergic to pollons they can carry it in from [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >of things and can bring whatever they rolled around in to their human >causing them to sneeze if they have allergies. are you an immunologist? "you can't be allergic to the cat", but you "can be allergic to the room"? guess what, a person travels to an different area. there are different plants there, not the same bloody ones that he is used to. guess what? he develops an allergy to the pollen from those plants. it's called an immediate hypersensitivity reaction mediated by T cells. allergies don't "travel". people travel. you are ignorant and annoying. the cat is an indoor cat so if she "rolls around", it's in the same stuff that's always been in the bloody apartment.
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Laila - 12 Nov 2004 14:51 GMT >>You can't be allergic to the cat but what the cat might have on its hair. >>For example, if someone were allergic to pollons they can carry it in from [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >pollen from those plants. it's called an immediate hypersensitivity >reaction mediated by T cells. i am sorry, the immediate hypersensitivity reaction is mediated by IgEs and the delayed hypersensitivity reaction, which is the case here, is mediated by T cells.
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CP, why don't you read this and stop asking annoying questions.
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Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 17:18 GMT I was trying to help. The best way is to ask questions. I started to find your posts confusing however since you seem to jump around and paint the cat as the cause without considering any other possibility.
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"Laila" <illyria@gmail.com> wrote in message
> CP, why don't you read this and stop asking annoying questions. > > -L Laila - 12 Nov 2004 17:33 GMT >I was trying to help. The best way is to ask questions. I started to find >your posts confusing however since you seem to jump around and paint the cat >as the cause without considering any other possibility. you are not helping. you are saying idiotic things. besides, the problem has been resolved without you "help". read the damn web site to which i posted a link. I KNOW HOW THIS WORKS. you DON'T and you don't read the posts. go back to my posts and reread them. if you still don't understand what i am talking about, give up. it's beyond your comprehension. the cat is the only possibility. yes, i am blaming the cat. she is evil. it is her bloody fault my boyfriend is sneezing. she is the root of all evil in the universe.
-L
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 18:19 GMT It is obvious you didn't need anyone's help which makes me ask the question why you posted in the first place?
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> you are not helping. you are saying idiotic things. besides, the > problem has been resolved without you "help". read the damn web site [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -L Laila - 12 Nov 2004 17:41 GMT >I was trying to help. The best way is to ask questions. I started to find >your posts confusing however since you seem to jump around and paint the cat >as the cause without considering any other possibility. you know what, call the ASPCA and tell them that i am abusing the cat by saying that she may be the cause of my boyfriend's allergies. ok? everyone else seems to be able to follow what i wrote, except for you. my conclusion is that you are incapable of understanding fairly simple things, or you are being an a.s on purpose.
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Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 18:23 GMT Obviously you are very incapable of having an adult discussion without turning to put downs and name calling. I was trying to help but obviously you didn't need it. BTW, when someone is confused it is normal for the person to say so. They don't expect the other person to call them stupid but rather explain things to clear up the matter. You did nothing more than jump from one thing to another.
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> you know what, call the ASPCA and tell them that i am abusing the cat > by saying that she may be the cause of my boyfriend's allergies. ok? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > -L Mary - 12 Nov 2004 18:56 GMT > Obviously you are very incapable of having an adult discussion without > turning to put downs and name calling. I was trying to help but obviously > you didn't need it. BTW, when someone is confused it is normal for the > person to say so. They don't expect the other person to call them stupid > but rather explain things to clear up the matter. You did nothing more > than jump from one thing to another. *looking around*
Hey, this is exactly what you always say to me. I didn't say ANYTHING to you this time.
> Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! > www.catgalaxymedia.com [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> >> -L Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 17:15 GMT No. I am not an immunologist but you seem to be blaming the cat for all your boyfriend's ills when in fact their could be another source. BTW, name calling is not necessary especially when people are trying to help. I find your posts a little more confusing on this issue. First you say that your boyfriend didn't have problems for the first two months with the cat, now he has problems with the cat regarding allergies. Then you stated he hadn't had problems in 4 years yet you stated he has a dirty room and has problems with them in Vancouver. Blaming the cat seems a little bit easy here and I am not sure if you are forgetting some facts. As far as allergies not traveling, people and animals get allergies, allergens can travel. There are plenty of allergens that can travel by air. Pollens for example can do this. Molds also can do so as well. Dust is also another allergen.
You stated that your boyfriend has a messy and dusty room yet the rest of your apartment is clean. Perhaps your cat has been in his room and layed on top of something she shouldn't have. Another explanation for possible cleaners can also be certain cleaners as well. You may want to look at that as well. An allergy specialist can help in this situation.
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> are you an immunologist? "you can't be allergic to the cat", but you > "can be allergic to the room"? guess what, a person travels to an [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -L Luvskats00 - 11 Nov 2004 22:04 GMT Laila illyria@torment.chaos writes
>since dust is dead skin cells, then >there are plenty of dead cat skin >cells that had accumulated over >months in his dusty room. Not quite. Dust is: fine particles of matter (as of earth) the particles into which something disintegrates the earth especially as a place of burial b : the surface of the ground
Laila - 11 Nov 2004 22:51 GMT >Laila illyria@torment.chaos writes >>since dust is dead skin cells, then >there are plenty of dead cat skin [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >the particles into which something disintegrates >the earth especially as a place of burial b : the surface of the ground does contains all sorts of stuff including dead skin cells, i should 've said. we don't live anywhere near earth. :) so our dust is dead skin cells, dead insect parts, feather parts from pillows, molds, and probably some pollen from the summer. what do you mean "place of burial?" of where the cat buries her poop?
-L
Phil P. - 13 Nov 2004 08:53 GMT > does contains all sorts of stuff including dead skin cells, i should > 've said. we don't live anywhere near earth. :) so our dust is dead > skin cells, dead insect parts, feather parts from pillows, molds, and > probably some pollen from the summer. ...and dust mites - which are well known allergens. Imagine these nasty looking things crawling around in your nostrils....
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Laila - 13 Nov 2004 18:35 GMT >> does contains all sorts of stuff including dead skin cells, i should >> 've said. we don't live anywhere near earth. :) so our dust is dead [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >http://www.maxshouse.com/ImageDatabase/Dust_Mite.jpg yak. where do they come from and what do they eat? why do they live in dust?
-L
Phil P. - 13 Nov 2004 19:47 GMT > >> does contains all sorts of stuff including dead skin cells, i should > >> 've said. we don't live anywhere near earth. :) so our dust is dead [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > yak. where do they come from and what do they eat? Mostly dead skin that people and animals shed. People shed about 1/4 oz of skin/week. So, your (anybody's) mattress (unless its sealed) is harboring at least a few hundred thousand to a few million dust mites - not counting your pillow.
"Nighty night; don't let the bed bugs bite" suddenly has new meaning! LOL!
You chauffeur them around from one room to the next and from house to house on your clothes. Their digestive enzymes are what makes people wheeze. You'll never get rid of all them.
You can see the nasty critters with a 10-15x jewler's or printer's loupe.
why do they live
> in dust? Because dust contains "tons" of skin flakes and other organic material. The stuff you see floating in the air in a beam of sunlight coming through your window is almost all skin flakes.
Creepy, huh?
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> -L Laila - 13 Nov 2004 21:39 GMT >"Laila" <illiria@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> >...and dust mites - which are well known allergens. Imagine these nasty >> >looking things crawling around in your nostrils.... >> >http://www.maxshouse.com/ImageDatabase/Dust_Mite.jpg >> >> yak. where do they come from and what do they eat?
>Mostly dead skin that people and animals shed. People shed about 1/4 oz of >skin/week. i never thought of it in volume. ick. i guess since my boyfriend has psoriasis, he sheds more skin.
> So, your (anybody's) mattress (unless its sealed) is harboring at >least a few hundred thousand to a few million dust mites - not counting your >pillow. oh god, that's utterly gross!
>"Nighty night; don't let the bed bugs bite" suddenly has new meaning! LOL! i thought it referred to body lice.
>You chauffeur them around from one room to the next and from house to house >on your clothes. Their digestive enzymes are what makes people wheeze. >You'll never get rid of all them. /sigh i was about to say i will do some major cleaning to get rid of them. well, at least we are getting rid of the dust, so there 'll be fewer millions of them.
>You can see the nasty critters with a 10-15x jewler's or printer's loupe. they look scary.
>why do they live in dust? > >Because dust contains "tons" of skin flakes and other organic material. The >stuff you see floating in the air in a beam of sunlight coming through your >window is almost all skin flakes. so now we just have to find a way to become cyborgs. hmmm
>Creepy, huh? yeah!
-L
>> -L Hodge - 13 Nov 2004 23:26 GMT > >"Nighty night; don't let the bed bugs bite" suddenly has new meaning! LOL! > > i thought it referred to body lice. It refers to bed bugs, an entirely different animal.
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Phil P. - 14 Nov 2004 02:41 GMT > > >"Nighty night; don't let the bed bugs bite" suddenly has new meaning! LOL! > > > > i thought it referred to body lice. > > It refers to bed bugs, an entirely different animal. No kidding. Did you not see "Nighty night; don't let the bed bugs bite" suddenly has ***new*** meaning"? "*New*" - as in "Having been made or come into being only a short time ago"....
I'll say it again in case you're skimming again....*New meaning* - *New meaning* - since the subject is *dust mites* a/k/a Dermatophagoides farinae, not Cimex lectularius.
Gotta watch that skimming! If you skim over your drivers license test you'll be walking! LOL!
Nighty night; don't let the bed bugs bite....
Hodge - 14 Nov 2004 03:26 GMT > > > >"Nighty night; don't let the bed bugs bite" suddenly has new meaning! > LOL! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > suddenly has ***new*** meaning"? "*New*" - as in "Having been made or come > into being only a short time ago".... Uh, yes, I read it, thank you.
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Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 06:50 GMT Dust is also an allergen.
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"Luvskats00" <luvskats00@aol.com> wrote in message
> Not quite. Dust is: > fine particles of matter (as of earth) > the particles into which something disintegrates > the earth especially as a place of burial b : the surface of the ground Laila - 12 Nov 2004 14:42 GMT >Dust is also an allergen. yes, dust. dust itself. it's the damn stuff that dust is composed off that people are allergic to. dust consists of a bunch of things. my god, were you born that stupid, or were you dropped on your head when you were a child?
-L
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 17:21 GMT Your put downs are not necessary especially when someone is trying to help you. You don't need to act so snooty or childish. I am an allergy sufferer myself so you'd think I'd know a little about them. If you didn't want advice or helpful tips then why did you post here?
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"Laila" <illyria@gmail.com> wrote in message
> yes, dust. dust itself. it's the damn stuff that dust is composed > off that people are allergic to. dust consists of a bunch of things. > my god, were you born that stupid, or were you dropped on your head > when you were a child? > > -L Laila - 12 Nov 2004 17:39 GMT >Your put downs are not necessary especially when someone is trying to help >you. You don't need to act so snooty or childish. I am an allergy sufferer >myself so you'd think I'd know a little about them. If you didn't want >advice or helpful tips then why did you post here? your allergies have gone to your head. you know VERY little about allergies. so little that it amounts to nothing. your "advice" is useless and idiotic. i posted here to see what other people use to deal with cat allergies and I KNOW THIS IS AN ALLERGY TO A CAT and NOT TO SOMETHING ELSE. is that bloody clear to you? in response, lots of people replied with a variety of useful tips EXCEPT FOR YOU ,who is fixated on "room as an allergen" on his paranoid delusions about my "blaming the cat." i am not putting your down. i am expression my opinion based on your recent posts. an my opinion is that you are an idiot. an obsessive compulsive idiot.
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Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 18:44 GMT I may not be an expert on allergies such as yourself but I do know a little about them. How did one such as yourself become so perfect?
You have no experience with cats at all since you made some very bold statements about them such as they never rub up against or roll around in things. They in fact do and thus might pick up an allergen unknowingly. Your boyfriend is not allergic to cats but what they might have picked up. You are very quick to fault the cat on this one. If he is so allergic to cats then why did you state he now gives the cat nose kisses? You also had the cat for 6 months before all this started. I find it odd that all of a sudden he is allergic. I asked questions which is what a smart person does if they need the air cleared. Your posts were very confusing. Perhaps you need to explain things so they are easier to understand not resort to name calling and putdowns because some don't understand what you are trying to say.
I have said enough. One can't help someone that doesn't want to listen or take the advice given to them.
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> your allergies have gone to your head. you know VERY little about > allergies. so little that it amounts to nothing. your "advice" is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -L Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 06:39 GMT I still am confused here. He has allergies in one place, then doesn't have them in another? Very odd. You claim the cat doesn't roll around in dust but cats have been known to roll around on dirty floors and even outside. Cats often rub up against surfaces. I am beginning to think you are blaming the cat for the allergy since dust and things being brought in from the outside can also carry the allergen. You don't seem to even want to aknowledge that possibility. Also, a dirty room can also house allergens as well.
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> >>You seem to be confusing things here. You say he has asthma yet he hasn't [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > -L Sherry - 12 Nov 2004 07:40 GMT >I still am confused here. He has allergies in one place, then doesn't have >them in another? Very odd. You claim the cat doesn't roll around in dust but [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >can also carry the allergen. You don't seem to even want to aknowledge that >possibility. Also, a dirty room can also house allergens as well. What the cat rolls around in is irrelevant. The allergies are caused from dander (dead skin cells) and protein from saliva. Dust allergies are a separate issue that have nothing to do with the cat. She's not "blaming" the cat. You're just trying to argue.
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Laila - 12 Nov 2004 14:37 GMT >I still am confused here. He has allergies in one place, then doesn't have >them in another? Very odd. You claim the cat doesn't roll around in dust but [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >can also carry the allergen. You don't seem to even want to aknowledge that >possibility. Also, a dirty room can also house allergens as well. no it's not odd. why don't you go and learn some immunology and then come back. my cat doesn't roll around in the dust. any other questions? cat's rub against surfaces?!?! no way! this is so odd. i've never seen anything like that! /rolls eyes you know what, see the first sentence and learn some immunology. while you are at it, learn how to read. i said in another post that he's been tested for allergies. can you read? the only thing that changed in the past 6 months is that we now have a cat. do you know what sensitization means? look it up. a "dirty" room doesn't cause allergies. the room is not an allergen. you are annoying the living crap out of me with your dumb questions.
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Sherry - 12 Nov 2004 16:12 GMT >no it's not odd. why don't you go and learn some immunology and then >come back. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >-L CP annoys the crap out of the whole newsgroup. Do a quick google search on his posts, and you'll learn to take anything he says with a grain of salt.
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Mary - 12 Nov 2004 17:28 GMT > >no it's not odd. why don't you go and learn some immunology and then >>come back. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Sherry Now, Sherry, is this really fair? I mean, when you say things like this you only alienate CP. Aren't we trying to help him. *tongue firmly planted in cheek*
Sherry - 12 Nov 2004 19:02 GMT >Now, Sherry, is this really fair? I mean, when you say things like this you >only >alienate CP. Aren't we trying to help him. *tongue firmly planted in cheek* You're going to have to shape up. We're never going to win the Fish in a Barrel Olympics if you go all soft on me.
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Mary - 12 Nov 2004 20:53 GMT > >Now, Sherry, is this really fair? I mean, when you say things like this > >you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Barrel > Olympics if you go all soft on me. lol!
Laila - 12 Nov 2004 17:43 GMT >>no it's not odd. why don't you go and learn some immunology and then >>come back. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >CP annoys the crap out of the whole newsgroup. Do a quick google search on his >posts, and you'll learn to take anything he says with a grain of salt. oh, i see. does he do this on purpose, or is he not able to follow a simple story line? either way, thanks. i won't be dealing with him anymore.
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Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 18:47 GMT I don't annoy the crap out of this newsgroup. There are some I get along with just fine. Of course there are those such as yourself that know everything and have so much time on their hands they need a flame war just to make themselves look better than everyone else. What a shame.
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>>CP annoys the crap out of the whole newsgroup. Do a quick google search on >>his [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -L Mary - 12 Nov 2004 18:57 GMT >I don't annoy the crap out of this newsgroup. There are some I get along >with just fine. Of course there are those such as yourself that know >everything and have so much time on their hands they need a flame war just >to make themselves look better than everyone else. What a shame.
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> Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! > www.catgalaxymedia.com [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> -L Laila - 12 Nov 2004 19:16 GMT >I don't annoy the crap out of this newsgroup. There are some I get along >with just fine. Of course there are those such as yourself that know >everything and have so much time on their hands they need a flame war just >to make themselves look better than everyone else. What a shame. yes, yes, to do.
PLONK your ignorant a.s.
-L
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 21:43 GMT Why do I get this feeling that Laila is another one of Sherry's or her follower's identities. Her childish responses seems to point in that direction. I for one have no need for a flame war nor the time. It's amazing that some suggest to search through Google to find past posts just to pick on someone. Obviously people like this have way too much time on their hands. It is a shame what this newsgroup has become.
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"Laila" <illyria@holy.cow> wrote in message
> yes, yes, to do. > > PLONK your ignorant a.s. > > -L Sherry - 12 Nov 2004 19:04 GMT >oh, i see. does he do this on purpose, or is he not able to follow a >simple story line? >either way, thanks. i won't be dealing with him anymore. > >-L I'm not really sure if he's unable to comprehend a post or just plain obtuse. But he'll read the first two lines of a post, fire off some inane reply, then starts making idiotic accusations. Then he'll kick that dead horse until you just ignore him. It's a pattern I've seen as long as I've been posting, which is several years.
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Laila - 12 Nov 2004 19:27 GMT >>oh, i see. does he do this on purpose, or is he not able to follow a >>simple story line? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Sherry he's been plonked.
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KellyH - 12 Nov 2004 21:18 GMT > I'm not really sure if he's unable to comprehend a post or just plain > obtuse. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Sherry What a great summary of CP's posting style. I can't decide whether or not to killfile him because he's so frustrating to read, or keep him around for amusement.
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Mary - 12 Nov 2004 21:36 GMT >> I'm not really sure if he's unable to comprehend a post or just plain >> obtuse. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > to killfile him because he's so frustrating to read, or keep him around > for amusement. Keep him around for amusement. Sometimes it is relaxing shooting rhetorical fish in a barrell. Like popping bubble wrap. And CP is too thick to really feel it anyway. God Bless him. (And I mean that, CP.) :)
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 21:36 GMT It is amazing people listen to Sherry. She has very little knowledge of cats and posts negatively about anyone who doesn't agree with her. I don't pay much attention to people like that anymore. This newsgroup used to be a great place to get information but now it has turned into a place where people can use to have their own personal flame war. You can pick on me all you want but I don't see how that is going to accomplish anything. Coming to this place makes me appreciate the communty Cat Fancy established. Not too many people fight on that cat board nor do we have to put up with too many people that have to act childish and put others down. If you want to check it out you can find it at www.catfancy.com.
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>> I'm not really sure if he's unable to comprehend a post or just plain >> obtuse. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > to killfile him because he's so frustrating to read, or keep him around > for amusement. KellyH - 12 Nov 2004 21:48 GMT > It is amazing people listen to Sherry. She has very little knowledge of > cats and posts negatively about anyone who doesn't agree with her. Huh? Must be talking about a different Sherry. Not the Sherry that volunteers at a shelter and takes in the cats and kittens that people dump in her area and feeds her cats quality food.
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Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 22:13 GMT Is there more than one here that picks on people who don't share her views? I only know of one that does that and causes a flame war. I know I have been one she has tried to pick on. Before the allergy post she picked on me for donating food and cat litter to the Humane Society. In the same post she also posted negatively because I didn't take in one cat (could never find the cat). I think the only time she didn't post anything was when I rescued Icarus.
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> Huh? Must be talking about a different Sherry. Not the Sherry that > volunteers at a shelter and takes in the cats and kittens that people dump > in her area and feeds her cats quality food. Phil P. - 13 Nov 2004 10:50 GMT > It is amazing people listen to Sherry. She has very little knowledge of cats To use an analogy for comparison of your knowledge about cats and Sherry's, Sherry is about as far above you as you are above an ameba.
The major difference between intelligent people and you is that intelligent people know how ignorant they are, whereas idiots like you don't know how stupid you are. That's why you don't (can't) learn.
Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 17:45 GMT Cats do rub on surfaces and even up against surfaces. This is a way of marking their territory and letting you know an area or object is theirs. Cats are equipped with glands located glands located on different parts of their body like the forehead, front paws, flanks, and even rear. When they rub up against an object or even their human they secrete a pheremone which tells the cat it is theirs. It is a form of communication. If you knew about cats you would have known this fact. Cats can roll around in and brush up against lots of things which might also house an allergen. You obviously think otherwise so you must know something about cats the rest of the humane race doesn't.
I read through your posts a couple of times and I find a few things confusing. Your first said he never saw an allergest? Then you changed gears and said he was tested and received allergy shots. Which is it? I am confused. Why did you come here for help if you didn't want people to offer advice or ask questions to better help you? I was trying to help and rule out every possibility but you seem hell bent that it must be the cat when there are so many other possibilities to rule out here. I guess one can't help you since you already have all the answers here. I wish I was perfect such as yourself and had all the answers. Thanks for allowing us to see this.
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"Laila" <illyria@gmail.com> wrote in message
> no it's not odd. why don't you go and learn some immunology and then > come back. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > -L KellyH - 12 Nov 2004 17:41 GMT >I still am confused here. He has allergies in one place, then doesn't have >them in another? Very odd. It's not very odd. It's very common. People can be allergic to the pollen of a tree that grows in one area of a country and not the other. Plus, the climate of Vancouver and NYC is different. In addition, people often move to areas like the Southwest to escape their allergies, but find once they start living there, they develop allergies to the local pollens.
>You claim the cat doesn't roll around in dust but cats have been known to >roll around on dirty floors and even outside. THE CAT DOES NOT GO OUTSIDE!
>Cats often rub up against surfaces. I am beginning to think you are blaming >the cat for the allergy since dust and things being brought in from the >outside can also carry the allergen. You don't seem to even want to >aknowledge that possibility. Also, a dirty room can also house allergens as >well. Because the BF sneezes when he's holding the cat, not when he's in his dusty room! This is JMHO, but he's probably always been allergic, but now that the windows are staying closed, the allergy is intensifying.
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Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 18:36 GMT Well here is why I found it odd. He has allergies in Vancouver, yet didn't have them in the current place of residency. Then after 6 months after having a cat the OP said it was 2 months ago he was starting to have the problem. Yes the climate of Vancouver and New York may be different but some species of plants can grow in both places. As for escaping to the Southwest because of allergies, that is not always true. My brother lives in Washington state and has allergies but when he came here to visit he still had to carry that breathing device for asthma and still had to use it on occasion. Here in Arizona spring and fall are usually times when the pollen count is high and many allergy sufferers sneeze, cough, and have watery eyes.
As per my earlier post, I also stated a cat can roll around in things inside. When the OP stated her boyfriend had a dirty room, I figured a cat can still around in the dust and such. Allergens can also be inside as well which the OP thinks is nonesence. As an allergy sufferer, allergens can be carried even indoors by humans. If he has always had allergies around cat hair which can carry an allergen then the OP did not state this. The OP merely said she didn't have this problem until 2 months ago after having the cat for 6 months. I found this odd so I asked the OP to explain and all I get is name calling and put-downs. The OP is posting as if she knows it all. She obviously doesn't know anything about cats if she is going to state they never roll around or rub up against things. This is one explanation where a cat could pick up and carry an allergen and not produce it themselves.
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> It's not very odd. It's very common. People can be allergic to the > pollen of a tree that grows in one area of a country and not the other. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > This is JMHO, but he's probably always been allergic, but now that the > windows are staying closed, the allergy is intensifying. Laila - 12 Nov 2004 19:16 GMT >The OP is posting as if she knows it all. >She obviously doesn't know anything about cats if she is going to state they >never roll around or rub up against things. This is one explanation where a >cat could pick up and carry an allergen and not produce it themselves. you idiot. where did i say "cats NEVER roll around in the dust"? quote this and show message id. where did i way they don't rub against things? buy a brain, you ignorant fool.
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KellyH - 12 Nov 2004 21:20 GMT CP wrote:
>As for escaping to the Southwest because of allergies, that is not always >true. My brother lives in Washington state and has allergies but when he >came here to visit he still had to carry that breathing device for asthma >and still had to use it on occasion. Here in Arizona spring and fall are >usually times when the pollen count is high and many allergy sufferers >sneeze, cough, and have watery eyes. Did you even read what I wrote? I said, people often move to the Southwest to escape their allergies, but then once they have been there for a while, develop allergies to local pollens.
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Lena Sapozhnikoff - 12 Nov 2004 21:45 GMT >CP wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >to escape their allergies, but then once they have been there for a while, >develop allergies to local pollens. wow! he is dense! "a breathing device"? a respirator? does he mean an inhaler?
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Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 22:20 GMT How is referring to an inhaler as a breathing device make someone dense? I think it is disgusting that many of you resort to name calling and put downs because someone doesn't post to your satisfaction or shares your viewpoint. This newsgroup used to be a great place to come to get cat advice but now has become a pretty bad place to come to if you want to post about anything cat related. Yes there are a few good ones but I have to wonder how many others people like yourself have chased away because they didn't hop on your bandwagon.
I work to help save cats and care about them. I am not here to join someone elses crusade to pick on people. I don't care whether people on here like me or not. I side with the cats and prefer to help them in whatever fashion I am able to. That is all that matters to me.
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> wow! he is dense! "a breathing device"? a respirator? does he mean > an inhaler? > > -L Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 21:45 GMT I read exactly what you wrote. Plenty of people have moved here that had allergies on the east coast and as stated end up dealing with the same or new types of allergies.
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> Did you even read what I wrote? I said, people often move to the > Southwest to escape their allergies, but then once they have been there > for a while, develop allergies to local pollens. Sherry - 12 Nov 2004 19:08 GMT >People can be allergic to the pollen >of a tree that grows in one area of a country and not the other. Plus, the >climate of Vancouver and NYC is different. In addition, people often move >to areas like the Southwest to escape their allergies, but find once they >start living there, they develop allergies to the local pollens. Allergies are weird that way. Did you know that people can also be *more* sensitive to a particular cat over another. I also remember some study about lighter-haired cats bothering allergy sufferers worse than light hairs. (or maybe the other way around). It must be very frustrating and difficult to pinpoint the real source to treat.
Monique Y. Mudama - 18 Nov 2004 00:20 GMT >>People can be allergic to the pollen of a tree that grows in one area of a >>country and not the other. Plus, the climate of Vancouver and NYC is [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > hairs. (or maybe the other way around). It must be very frustrating and > difficult to pinpoint the real source to treat. *tiptoes into this mess*
My husband has been able to live with a long-haired grey female cat for years. Introduce a short-haired black male cat (neutered), and his allergies went nuts, and he got seriously sick several times over a one-month period. I'm guessing his immune system was affected enough that he became more susceptable to whatever's making the rounds.
Combine this with my first cat's utter hatred/terror for the new cat, and unfortunately we are looking for a new home for the boy, even though he is the sweetest, most loveable cat we've ever met. I've shed many a tear, and I'm sure I'm not done.
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Laila - 12 Nov 2004 19:24 GMT >>I still am confused here. He has allergies in one place, then doesn't have >>them in another? Very odd. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >to areas like the Southwest to escape their allergies, but find once they >start living there, they develop allergies to the local pollens. /sigh you'd think this isn't a complex concept
>>You claim the cat doesn't roll around in dust but cats have been known to >>roll around on dirty floors and even outside. > >THE CAT DOES NOT GO OUTSIDE! also not a hard concept to grasp.
>>Cats often rub up against surfaces. I am beginning to think you are blaming >>the cat for the allergy since dust and things being brought in from the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >This is JMHO, but he's probably always been allergic, but now that the >windows are staying closed, the allergy is intensifying. he'd been allergy tested when he was little, i guess, in Vancouver and the test has shown that he is allergic to cats, among other things, like pollen. the way the do an allergy test is this: they prick the skin several times with a needle containing an allergen and watch for a wheel-and-flare reaction, where the area around pricked skin becomes red and raised within few minutes. now, when Shaina accidentally scratches him (like when she thinks when he is wearing jeans he is a good climbing tree), and that's been the case ever since we got her, he gets the exact wheel-and-flare reaction. we had a roommate here with a cat before, but my bf never even picked him up for fear of an allergy attack. the dusty room has been dusty for many many months, before Shaina came here. he didn't have any symptoms of an allergy.
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J1Boss - 12 Nov 2004 19:34 GMT >he'd been allergy tested when he was little, i guess, in Vancouver and >the test has shown that he is allergic to cats, among other things, >like pollen. He really needs to be tested again. Things change. Allergies are also cumulative. In other words, the dust probably isn't HELPING him any. The dust alone may not have triggered anything, but the combo of the dust and the cat does. I don't know about you, but I'd rather live with a cat than dust! ;-D
> the way the do an allergy test is this: they prick the >skin several times with a needle containing an allergen and watch for >a wheel-and-flare reaction, where the area around pricked skin becomes >red and raised within few minutes. Well, that's ONE type of allergy testing - no wheels though - "wheals". LOL. I remember the first time I had it done, kind of crossing my fingers and toes that the cat and dog marks wouldn't react. ACK - they were the first things to turn huge. Oh well. That's what meds are for.
BTW - Rhinocort is not for asthma - as it's name implies, it's for nasal allergies/inflamation. I use it as well, but it has no real effect on asthma.
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Laila - 12 Nov 2004 20:05 GMT >>he'd been allergy tested when he was little, i guess, in Vancouver and >>the test has shown that he is allergic to cats, among other things, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >alone may not have triggered anything, but the combo of the dust and the cat >does. I don't know about you, but I'd rather live with a cat than dust! ;-D his room needs to be cleaned. his rational for leaving the dust undisturbed is that if it is moved, it will exacerbated his asthma. i am afraid i'll have to clean it when he is not in the room.
>> the way the do an allergy test is this: they prick the >>skin several times with a needle containing an allergen and watch for >>a wheel-and-flare reaction, where the area around pricked skin becomes >>red and raised within few minutes. > >Well, that's ONE type of allergy testing - no wheels though - "wheals". LOL. :) that's the only one he had.
>I remember the first time I had it done, kind of crossing my fingers and toes >that the cat and dog marks wouldn't react. ACK - they were the first things to >turn huge. Oh well. That's what meds are for. rhinocort works well.
>BTW - Rhinocort is not for asthma - as it's name implies, it's for nasal >allergies/inflamation. I use it as well, but it has no real effect on asthma. actually, according to various drug manuals, it's oral inhalation preparation is used for prophylaxis of asthma. it is also used for treatment of seasonal rhinitis. he is using it for allergy symptoms. he doesn't really need prophylactic treatment for asthma because it's really mild. he uses albuterol for asthma acutely.
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J1Boss - 12 Nov 2004 20:18 GMT > i >am afraid i'll have to clean it when he is not in the room. A ploy! I;ve tried it - it hasn't worked! ;-D
>actually, according to various drug manuals, it's oral inhalation >preparation is used for prophylaxis of asthma. it is also used for >treatment of seasonal rhinitis. he is using it for allergy symptoms. >he doesn't really need prophylactic treatment for asthma because it's >really mild. he uses albuterol for asthma acutely. I learned something new - I had no idea it came in an oral inhalation preparation! It keeps my nasal polyps at bay, so I'm pleased with that......
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Cat Protector - 12 Nov 2004 21:39 GMT No. Dust never helps those with allergies. It makes things a little worse. I too would rather live with the cats. I have 3 and never sneeze around them but my allergies do act up when we have the high pollen counts and molds during the Spring and Fall months.
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> He really needs to be tested again. Things change. Allergies are also > cumulative. In other words, the dust probably isn't HELPING him any. The [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ > http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience Laila - 11 Nov 2004 19:47 GMT >How about allergy shots? he was getting allergy shots when he was way younger, but he stopped going because "he was too lazy". /rolls eyes. i'm not sure if it's done at the age of 27, but we'll ask if that's possible. so far, i found rhinocort and it's working great! :)
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Mary - 09 Nov 2004 07:07 GMT > >> my boyfriend had become allergic to Shaina. :( damn sensitization! > >> over the past 2 months he has been getting more and more allergic to [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > i guess hepa filter is something we should look into. > -L You should have been using the filters before he went on the drugs. That said, if Zyrtec or Claritin do not work it may not be the cats he is allergic to. Benedryl is a far inferior antihistamine. Does he LIKE cats?
kaeli - 09 Nov 2004 14:38 GMT > That said, if Zyrtec or Claritin do not work it may not be the cats he is > allergic to. Benedryl is a far inferior antihistamine. For you, perhaps. It's also the only one that works for me. Except it doesn't make me at all drowsy, unlike the OP's BF.
People are different. Their systems are different. Which is why we have so many options in pharmaceuticals. Even painkillers take up half an aisle at the store. Excedrine works for some, tylenol for others. Heck, I have three different kinds for different painkillers just for myself. Headaches, muscle aches, and cramps all get cured best by different medicines for me.
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Mary - 09 Nov 2004 16:55 GMT > > That said, if Zyrtec or Claritin do not work it may not be the cats he is allergic to. Benedryl is a far inferior antihistamine.
> For you, perhaps. It's also the only one that works for me. Except it doesn't make me at all
> drowsy, unlike the OP's BF. Hmm. I made the comment because I was taking Benedryl and my doctor told me it was vastly inferior to other antihistamines. I found it to be true. I should have figured it might be different for different people.
kaeli - 09 Nov 2004 19:44 GMT > Hmm. I made the comment because I was taking Benedryl and my doctor told me > it was vastly inferior to other antihistamines. I found it to be true. I > should have figured it might be different for different people. Your doctor doesn't make money from Benadryl. *heh* Coincidence...??? *grins*
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Mary - 09 Nov 2004 20:20 GMT > > Hmm. I made the comment because I was taking Benedryl and my doctor told me > > it was vastly inferior to other antihistamines. I found it to be true. I > > should have figured it might be different for different people. > > Your doctor doesn't make money from Benadryl. *heh* > Coincidence...??? *grins* Could be. <G> However, Benedryl puts me right to sleep. When I took it, I had to take it at bed time. I love Claritin because i
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