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KellyH - 03 Nov 2004 21:41 GMT
Hi,

It's over three weeks now that Antonio's been missing.  I have 5 traps set
around the area.  I've moved some of them around a bit, trying to cover the
area as best as I can.  There has still been no sign of him.  I've been out
looking for him at different times of the day, I've talked to many of my
neighbors, and looked everywhere that I can.  There are so many places
around here he could be hiding (woods, under decks/porches, sheds, etc).

Anyway, about trapping.  I've tried a few different things, like putting
cardboard or newspaper in the bottom, nothing on the bottom, tuna, mackerel,
or canned cat food for bait, heating the bait for smell.  So far I've mostly
caught possums, one raccoon, and a neighbor's cat several times.  At one of
the traps, the food often dissappears without the trap going off.  My
husband has adjusted the sensitivity, and I know that the trap works because
the neighbor's cat has been caught in it.  I like to think this is Antonio,
but I have no idea.

I feel like I'm in my own little Fear Factor with the trapping stuff.  I'm a
squeamish person, and some of the stuff I'm doing makes me want to throw up.
The mackerel is so f'ing GROSS!  It comes in this oil, and it looks
horrible, like chum.  When I change the bait, there's usually slugs in with
the old mackerel.  Is it really necessary that I use mackerel?  We rarely
eat fish, and I can't remember Antonio being particularly interested in it.
I've thought maybe I should just use his regular food.  The things he would
go wild over were sliced turkey, pizza crust, and mashed potatoes.  None of
those are fragrant, but might he might be attracted to them.
The other nasty thing is the possums.  Several times when I've caught a
possum, which is every other night sometimes, they sh.t in cage!  Do you
know how gross it is to clean out possum sh.t?  Any way I can avoid catching
possums?  My husband read something about using catnip oil.  I went to
Petsmart today and couldn't find any, just that spray stuff.  If I can
locate the catnip oil, that would be much less gross for me to deal with.

Some other things:  I am really doing anything productive to get Antonio
back home by setting these traps blindly, without even knowing if he is
around?  What about building a shelter in hopes it will attract him?  DH
thinks that might just attract every critter in the neighborhood?  Should I
set the traps, now that it is getting cold?  It's going to be below freezing
at night soon in this area.  I would hate for anything to freeze in the
traps overnight.

Thanks for any help.

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Gail - 03 Nov 2004 23:46 GMT
Hi Kelly: You can experiment with the traps in relation to different foods.
Yes, he may not be in the area. Have you covered the trap with twigs and
leaves? Was he a feral? (I don't remember your first posting). Do you have
the old litter that you can sprinkle outside around the perimeter of the
property? You're are doing your best and that's what counts.
Gail
> Hi,
>
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>
> Thanks for any help.
KellyH - 04 Nov 2004 16:43 GMT
> Hi Kelly: You can experiment with the traps in relation to different
> foods. Yes, he may not be in the area. Have you covered the trap with
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> counts.
> Gail

Yes, he's a semi-feral.  Very, very scared when I first got him.  Finally
got to a point where he wouldn't run from us, but we couldn't pick him up,
either.
I've tried the litter from the litterbox, I admit not religiously.  Maybe I
should try that again.

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Rhonda - 04 Nov 2004 06:42 GMT
Hi Kelly,

I know you've said you've talked to neighbors, have you asked them to
open up all garages, sheds, etc., to see if he might be trapped inside?
I've heard so many stories of cats hiding somewhere and the door getting
shut on them. I heard a cat one morning a few months ago in the
neighbor's tool shed, thank god, because I caught the neighbors just as
they were ready to leave on a 1-week vacation.

I don't have any practical trapping advice for you, but I wish you the
best. I admire you for your persistence! I was just thinking about
Antonio this week, hoping there was good news. I still have all fingers
crossed.

Rhonda

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>
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>
> Thanks for any help.
mlbriggs - 04 Nov 2004 06:48 GMT
> Hi Kelly,
>
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>>
>> Thanks for any help.

Don't use the traps in cold weather!  Purrs that you will locate him soon.
 MLB
KellyH - 04 Nov 2004 16:45 GMT
> Hi Kelly,
>
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> shed, thank god, because I caught the neighbors just as they were ready to
> leave on a 1-week vacation.

I have been able to check a couple.  You're right, I should check all in the
area just to make sure.

> I don't have any practical trapping advice for you, but I wish you the
> best. I admire you for your persistence! I was just thinking about Antonio
> this week, hoping there was good news. I still have all fingers crossed.
>
> Rhonda

Thanks, I want to at least see him, to know he's still alive.
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Nomen Nescio - 04 Nov 2004 09:20 GMT
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Have you tried a good handfull of fresh catnip.
I've no experience with this, but maybe to cat will go in the trap and
try rolling around in the stuff which would almost certainly trip the trigger.
Might eliminate the 'possum, 'coon, catches also.
Just a thought.
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I'll give this a shot next.  Can't hurt to try, huh?
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Rene - 04 Nov 2004 15:34 GMT
> Hi,
>
> It's over three weeks now that Antonio's been missing.  I have 5 traps set
> around the area.  

Kelly,

I've been sending good thoughts your way, hoping you'll catch him
soon. At this point, it would not hurt to try other foods in the trap,
especially things that he loves. Someone in another thread mentioned
using KFC popcorn chicken--worth a try.

Headbutts to your household

Rene (and Tucker and Benny kitties)
KellyH - 04 Nov 2004 16:47 GMT
> Kelly,
>
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>
> Rene (and Tucker and Benny kitties)

Thank you, I do appreciate the good wishes. I believe in the power of
positive energy.  I have heard that KFC makes good bait.  I'll give it a
shot!
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-L. : - 05 Nov 2004 07:03 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> Thanks for any help.

Possum sh.t will keep cats out so you have to clean it really well.
Sardines have been my best bait.  You might ask Jan at Silicon Valley
Friends of Ferals for help (Tell her Lyn sent you) -
http://www.svff.org - they also have a message board there.

-L.
Phil P. - 06 Nov 2004 13:28 GMT
> Hi,
>
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> Anyway, about trapping.  I've tried a few different things, like putting
> cardboard or newspaper in the bottom, nothing on the bottom,

Camouflage the traps - he was caught in a trap once before, right?
Previously trapped cats are usually more difficult to trap again. Weave
small branches and leaves between the bars on the top, sides and bottom -
make it look like a nice cubby hole with food inside.

tuna, mackerel,
> or canned cat food for bait, heating the bait for smell.  So far I've mostly
> caught possums, one raccoon, and a neighbor's cat several times.  At one of
> the traps, the food often dissappears without the trap going off.

Must be a Safeguard ( ;->Arjun) - the trip plate is too small - cats can
step right over it without setting it off.

My
> husband has adjusted the sensitivity, and I know that the trap works because
> the neighbor's cat has been caught in it.  I like to think this is Antonio,
> but I have no idea.

> I feel like I'm in my own little Fear Factor with the trapping stuff.  I'm a
> squeamish person, and some of the stuff I'm doing makes me want to throw up.
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> eat fish, and I can't remember Antonio being particularly interested in it.
> I've thought maybe I should just use his regular food.  The things he
would > go wild over were sliced turkey, pizza crust, and mashed potatoes.
None of
> those are fragrant, but might he might be attracted to them.

Put the foods you know he likes out at the same times every day - after a
few days, he'll know when its feeding time and you might get a chance to
grab him.  If you do see him - don't run after him - let him come to you
even if it means letting him get away.  If you chase or lunge towards him,
you'll frighten away for good.  Got a pole net, or a throw net?

> The other nasty thing is the possums.  Several times when I've caught a
> possum, which is every other night sometimes, they sh.t in cage!  Do you
> know how gross it is to clean out possum sh.t?  Any way I can avoid catching
> possums?  My husband read something about using catnip oil.  I went to
> Petsmart today and couldn't find any, just that spray stuff.  If I can
> locate the catnip oil, that would be much less gross for me to deal with.

Actually, catnip spray is good - Feliway is even better.  Spray the trap and
spray a line leading into it.

> Some other things:  I am really doing anything productive to get Antonio
> back home by setting these traps blindly, without even knowing if he is
> around?

Did you find out where he was trapped originally like I suggested earlier?
He might have gone back to his old stomping grounds - ferals (even neutered)
are notoriously territorial.

What about building a shelter in hopes it will attract him?  DH
> thinks that might just attract every critter in the neighborhood?  Should I
> set the traps, now that it is getting cold?  It's going to be below freezing
> at night soon in this area.  I would hate for anything to freeze in the
> traps overnight.

Traps must be monitored a lot more often in cold and hot weather.  You don't
want a live trap to become a death trap.  I couldn't leave traps
unattended - especially overnight in cold weather.  Put a cover over the top
(Tomahawk makes trap covers) and cover it with leaves and small branches in
case it rains.

Keep the faith!

Phil
KellyH - 06 Nov 2004 17:09 GMT
> Camouflage the traps - he was caught in a trap once before, right?
> Previously trapped cats are usually more difficult to trap again. Weave
> small branches and leaves between the bars on the top, sides and bottom -
> make it look like a nice cubby hole with food inside.

Haha!  Tell that to my neighbor's cat, who I caught for the 7th time this
morning!  The traps in the woods are pretty much camoflaged by all the
falling leaves.  I have a towel over the top of each cage, but I can do that
with the leaves.

> Must be a Safeguard ( ;->Arjun) - the trip plate is too small - cats can
> step right over it without setting it off.

It's a Havahart.  I know it works because said neighbor's cat has gotten
trapped in it.  I swapped out traps at that location, the previous one was a
Tomahawk, same result.  That's why I put cardboard in the bottom of the
trap.

> Put the foods you know he likes out at the same times every day - after a
> few days, he'll know when its feeding time and you might get a chance to
> grab him.  If you do see him - don't run after him - let him come to you
> even if it means letting him get away.  If you chase or lunge towards him,
> you'll frighten away for good.  Got a pole net, or a throw net?

But I have NO IDEA that he's even still around.  I have not seen him since
the day he ran off.  Should I still set out food?  I thought that I
shouldn't, because I want him to get the food in the trap.

> Actually, catnip spray is good - Feliway is even better.  Spray the trap
> and
> spray a line leading into it.

OK, I'll try that.

> Did you find out where he was trapped originally like I suggested earlier?
> He might have gone back to his old stomping grounds - ferals (even
> neutered)
> are notoriously territorial.

Yeah, It's about 10 miles away.  I seriously doubt he would go back there.
He was trapped at 3 months old.

> Traps must be monitored a lot more often in cold and hot weather.  You
> don't
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> in
> case it rains.

I'm going to order those microwaveable discs from Drs. Foster and Smith and
put them in the bottom of the traps.  I'm hoping the allure of warmth will
attract him.
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kelly at farringtons dot net
www.kelltek.com
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Phil P. - 07 Nov 2004 18:23 GMT
> > Did you find out where he was trapped originally like I suggested earlier?
> > He might have gone back to his old stomping grounds - ferals (even
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> Yeah, It's about 10 miles away.  I seriously doubt he would go back there.
> He was trapped at 3 months old.

Cats are known to travel *hundreds* of miles to return to their old
territory.

Its worth a shot since nothing else is working.

Good luck.

Phil
 
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