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Rhonda - 17 Oct 2004 20:15 GMT
I am thinking of changing our herd of cats over to wet food. We had a
diabetic cat a few years ago; that's when I first heard the argument
that dry food has more carbs than a cat needs and possibly contributes
to diabetes.

My question -- with 8 cats of various ages, is there a good, affordable
wet food? I priced the premium wet foods at somewhere around $1.58 for
13 oz. Does anyone know of a more economical price, perhaps shipped? How
about somewhere that sells larger cans than 13 oz?

Friskies wet is cheap at WalMart, but I don't know if cheap wet is
better than a more premium dry food. Carb-wise yes, but haven't checked
out the other pros and cons.

I'd like to think of a way to make this work, but not go broke in the
process! ;)  What do you out there with herds feed your cats?

Thanks,

Rhonda
Karen Chuplis - 17 Oct 2004 20:38 GMT
> I am thinking of changing our herd of cats over to wet food. We had a
> diabetic cat a few years ago; that's when I first heard the argument
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>
> Rhonda

check out sites like petfooddirect.com. If you have enough to feed the big
cans, you can usually get much better prices.
Bill Stock - 17 Oct 2004 20:41 GMT
> I am thinking of changing our herd of cats over to wet food. We had a
> diabetic cat a few years ago; that's when I first heard the argument
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>
> Rhonda

I'd stay away from the Friskies. This stuff makes Fancy Feast look good. The
'Salmon' flavour looks like sawdust and salmon juice. Even our garberator
won't touch the stuff.
Cat Protector - 03 Nov 2004 18:34 GMT
Just because your cats don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. My cats like the
Friskies canned food but I am switching over to Special Kitty because I want
to save money and also get more bang for my buck. My cats seem to enjoy the
new canned food so I guess the switching over works.

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"Bill Stock" <me7@privacy.net> wrote in message news:UuWdnf5BH8JHV-_cRVn->
I'd stay away from the Friskies. This stuff makes Fancy Feast look good. The

> 'Salmon' flavour looks like sawdust and salmon juice. Even our garberator
> won't touch the stuff.
KellyH - 03 Nov 2004 23:06 GMT
> Just because your cats don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. My cats like
> the Friskies canned food but I am switching over to Special Kitty because
> I want to save money and also get more bang for my buck. My cats seem to
> enjoy the new canned food so I guess the switching over works.

Gross.  We don't even use it at the shelter when someone donates that crap.
We give it away to people who do feral TNR.

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Sherry - 03 Nov 2004 23:25 GMT
>Gross.  We don't even use it at the shelter when someone donates that crap.
>We give it away to people who do feral TNR.

We give it away also. Besides the obvious reasons, the cat room stinks to high
heaven. If CP would just *try* a little better food, he'd find out how much
less waste there is in the litterbox. Health benefits for the cat, and
litterbox-cleaning benefits for the owner.

Sherry
PawsForThought - 04 Nov 2004 00:34 GMT
>From: sriddles@aol.comkitty  (Sherry )

>>Gross.  We don't even use it at the shelter when someone donates that crap.
>>We give it away to people who do feral TNR.
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>less waste there is in the litterbox. Health benefits for the cat, and
>litterbox-cleaning benefits for the owner.

Yeah you'd think as much as he cares for his cats, he would want to feed them
the best.  
I've never heard of Special Kitty, but from what you guys are saying, it
doesn't sound too good.

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Cat Protector - 03 Nov 2004 23:27 GMT
I have no problems with it. It saves me money and my cats like it.

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>> Just because your cats don't like it doesn't mean it's bad. My cats like
>> the Friskies canned food but I am switching over to Special Kitty because
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> Gross.  We don't even use it at the shelter when someone donates that
> crap. We give it away to people who do feral TNR.
Sherry - 04 Nov 2004 00:46 GMT
>I have no problems with it. It saves me money and my cats like it.

You don't have a problem with it because you can't *see* what it's doing to
your cats, on the inside. Don't think of premium food as an expense, try to
think of it as an investment that will help keep Isis  & the others healthy.

Sherry
J1Boss - 17 Oct 2004 22:55 GMT
>I priced the premium wet foods at somewhere around $1.58 for
>13 oz. Does anyone know of a more economical price, perhaps shipped? How
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>
>Rhonda

Can't help with large cans, but my cats adore Trader Joe's cat food in the 6 oz
cans, for $0.45/can.

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zuzu22@webtv.net - 17 Oct 2004 23:42 GMT
>My question -- with 8 cats of various
>ages, is there a good, affordable wet
>food? I priced the premium wet foods at
>somewhere around $1.58 for 13 oz.

$1.58 for a 13 oz can of premium food is a good price. Think about what
a 3 ounce of can of Fancy Feast cost at around .39, and the premium food
is actually less per ounce.  

I feed 24 cats only super premium foods and do it on a one person
income. I have calculated down to the ounce what my cats need to
maintain weight, feed exactly the same amounts at every meal, and can
place orders for food knowing how many cans I need to cover a weeks
worth of meals and know exactly how much I spend. The nice thing about
super premium food is that the cats generally don't need as much food to
get the same benefit, and when I switched to this type of food years ago
I found I was feeding nearly 30% less food, so I wasn't really spending
much more.  I have made the choice to go without new clothes, going out
nights (there are cheaper forms of entertainment such as books and
renting movies) etc., rather than try to save money by feeding my cats
crap.

Megan

                                   
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Brandy??Alexandre - 18 Oct 2004 02:18 GMT
<zuzu22@webtv.net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

>>My question -- with 8 cats of various
>>ages, is there a good, affordable wet
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I feed Science Diet and pay 69? for a 5.5 oz. can at PetsMart.  It
frequently goes on sale for 50? or less if you watch.  I think it comes
larger and probably an equally good price.  It's good you want to feed
a higher quality diet, but be prepared to pay for it.

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Rene - 18 Oct 2004 20:53 GMT
> >My question -- with 8 cats of various
> >ages, is there a good, affordable wet
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>
> Megan

I am a recent convert to Wellness food (er, ok *I* don't actually eat
it. . .) I previously spent a ton of money on prescription food.
Wellness isn't cheap, but considering I feed less than I did of the
dry, I'm not spending that much more money than I did before. Some
other benefits are: fewer #2s to scoop out of the litter box (they
absorb more of the food), getting more water in their diet, and the
food doesn't smell like cat food. It hardly has a smell at all.

Several people here have been happy with petfooddirect.com. I called
around locally for prices, and also emailed friends who lived a
reasonable distance for their area prices. Also see if the store has a
punch card or will give a discount for case purchases. I've found a
lot of stores will, but you have to ask.

Rene
Rhonda - 19 Oct 2004 05:16 GMT
Thanks for the responses, everyone.

Sounds like if we want to feed wet food, we have to just bite the
bullet. We probably pay $25/month in dry food to feed the guys. With wet
food, sounds like closer to $200/month.

Although, Bob's diabetes cost $4000 in one year, and the money was not
the worst of it, seeing what he went through. I want to prevent any of
our cats from going through that. A steroid shot triggered it, but I
have to wonder if he hadn't been already overweight and full of carbs...

Thanks, again, I'll get to shopping for a good brand!

Rhonda
MaryL - 25 Oct 2004 06:16 GMT
> Thanks for the responses, everyone.
>
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>
> Rhonda

How many cats do you have?  I don't believe the cost could possibly jump
from $25 per month to $200 per month when feeding the same number of cats.
I use Felidae canned and Wellness canned (several varieties).  These are
premium foods, and cats do not nearly as much quantity as they do for many
other foods.  I found when I switched to these brands that my bills really
did not increase much becaus my cats' weight now remains stable on far less
quantity.  I give each cat 1/3 can (5.5 oz size) twice a day, fed 12 hours
apart (Duffy weighs a little more than 8 lbs., and Holly weighs a little
more than 9 lbs.).  I order from www.petfooddirect.com.  They provide great
service and their prices are generally good (especially since they regularly
offer 20 percent discounts, and I watch for that).  If you go to their web
site, you can easily calculate your potential costs.

MaryL
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Photos of Duffy and Holly:      >'o'<
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http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")
Rhonda - 29 Oct 2004 05:29 GMT
Hi Mary, I've gone on petfooddirect and looks like (unless there's a
sale) it's not worth buying on-line. The natural cat-food store here
sells Innova and some of the others for $1.60 for the larger cans, and
Wellness for $1.80.

As for the math, we have 8 cats, so I calculated the $200 using 4 cans
per day or 1/2 can per cat. 3 are kittens, so they will take more for a
few more months but I didn't calculate that into the equation.

To everyone -- thanks for all of the links and the good info. I'm in the
process of "digesting" (haha) all of the food info. I've started trying
the cats on a few different ones to see if they are okay with them.

So much to take in! The journey continues but there's a light at the
end...     -Rhonda

> How many cats do you have?  I don't believe the cost could possibly jump
> from $25 per month to $200 per month when feeding the same number of cats.
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> http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly)
> http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")
MaryL - 29 Oct 2004 12:25 GMT
> Hi Mary, I've gone on petfooddirect and looks like (unless there's a sale)
> it's not worth buying on-line. The natural cat-food store here sells
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> So much to take in! The journey continues but there's a light at the
> end...     -Rhonda

I agree.  If you have a supplier nearby, it probably wouldn't save anything
to order online.  This woks out for me because the nearest pet supply store
that carries these brands is 75 miles away from my home.  I always wait for
the 20 percent discount (or 13 percent, if I procrastinate!).  That discount
wipes out the cost of shipping.

Please post some pics.

MaryL
PawsForThought - 29 Oct 2004 13:02 GMT
>From: Rhonda san-toki@attremovethis.net

>To everyone -- thanks for all of the links and the good info. I'm in the
>process of "digesting" (haha) all of the food info. I've started trying
>the cats on a few different ones to see if they are okay with them.

Hi Rhonda,
One thing I wanted to suggest in case you weren't doing this is to introduce
the new foods slowly by adding a small amount of the new food to the old food.
Some cats, when presented with an entirely new food, will sometimes just turn
their noses up and wont' eat it.  Good luck :)

Lauren
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Rhonda - 30 Oct 2004 05:13 GMT
Thanks, we are changing slowly. I'm getting them used to a wet food
"dinner" every night before I pull the plug on the dry food.

Rhonda

> Hi Rhonda,
> One thing I wanted to suggest in case you weren't doing this is to introduce
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> http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
> Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
PawsForThought - 30 Oct 2004 14:25 GMT
>From: Rhonda san-toki@attremovethis.net

>Thanks, we are changing slowly. I'm getting them used to a wet food
>"dinner" every night before I pull the plug on the dry food.

Sounds good, Rhonda :)

Lauren
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Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
Cat Protector - 03 Nov 2004 18:31 GMT
Actually I found it is more economical to buy Walmart's brand of food called
Special Kitty. A 4 pack of the smaller cans is about 88 cents compared to 3
cans of Friskies which is about 93 cents.

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>I am thinking of changing our herd of cats over to wet food. We had a
>diabetic cat a few years ago; that's when I first heard the argument that
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> Rhonda
 
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