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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / October 2004Is Moggie a derogatory term?
There is a debate going on in a thread about whether or not "moggie" is a derogatory term. I, as I suspect other US cat-lovers, picked up the term here from our UK friends, thinking it to mean an affectionate name for our mixed-breed cats. UK people, are we using it correctly? Does it have any negative connotations, as one could argue "mutt" does? I've heard dog people affectionately call their dogs mutts, but it can be used negatively. Someone has argued calling a mixed-breed cat a "moggie" is equal to calling a black person "the n word". I think that's ludicrous.  Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net www.kelltek.com Check out www.snittens.com > There is a debate going on in a thread about whether or not "moggie" is a > derogatory term. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Someone has argued calling a mixed-breed cat a "moggie" is equal to calling > a black person "the n word". I think that's ludicrous. http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Moggy "Moggy or moggie (plural moggies) in Commonwealth English is an affectionate term for a domestic cat, " http://cats.about.com/cs/resources/g/moggie.htm =3FMoggie=3F Glossary Definition: Noun.Term used in Great Britain to describe a domestic non- pedigreed cat. Also used as an affectionate term for "stray" cats. http://www.chichiandcompany.com/moggies.htm A Moggie is a Non Purebred Cat !! We have 4 Wonderful Moggies : Stud , Pheobe, Chaz & Bailey If it were bad, would so many .uk users refer to their cats as moggies? http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=moggie&btnG=Search&hl=en Signature-- ~kaeli~ Press any key...NO, NO, NO, NOT THAT ONE!!!!!! http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > > There is a debate going on in a thread about whether or not "moggie" is a > > derogatory term. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > If it were bad, would so many .uk users refer to their cats as moggies? > http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=moggie&btnG=Search&hl=en And furthermore it is a dangerous practice to give any credence whatsoever to the things that only happen inside "Cat Protector's" addled little brain. Is this the same person that agreed with me in the surgery & declawing thread. Apparently you don't care who you attack unless they agree with you on everything huh Mary? I have to wonder why we can't all have a discussion on a topic without the name calling. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > And furthermore it is a dangerous practice to give any credence whatsoever > to the things that only happen inside "Cat Protector's" addled little > brain. > Is this the same person that agreed with me in the surgery & declawing > thread. Apparently you don't care who you attack unless they agree with you > on everything huh Mary? I have to wonder why we can't all have a discussion > on a topic without the name calling. Because you frustrate people by being stupid. Moggie is a term of endearment. Period. I have to wonder why we can't all have a discussion >on a topic without the name calling. Because you bring out the worst in people with your stupid argumentive nonsense. Then you invariably whine because *any* thread you participate in turns into name-calling. Think about that for a while. Sherry > There is a debate going on in a thread about whether or not "moggie" is a > derogatory term. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Someone has argued calling a mixed-breed cat a "moggie" is equal to calling > a black person "the n word". I think that's ludicrous. I've never heard it used derogatorily. (...) > UK people, are we using it correctly? Yes. > Does it have any negative > connotations, as one could argue "mutt" does? No. (...) > Someone has argued calling a mixed-breed cat a "moggie" is equal to calling > a black person "the n word". Yes, CP's that someone. However he is as mad as a water soluble shark. S. It may seem rediculous but would you call a human child a "half breed" affectionatly? SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > There is a debate going on in a thread about whether or not "moggie" is a > derogatory term. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Someone has argued calling a mixed-breed cat a "moggie" is equal to > calling a black person "the n word". I think that's ludicrous. > It may seem rediculous but would you call a human child a "half breed" > affectionatly? You're calling your cats "mixed breed", which is more akin to "half breed" than moggie is. Don't you get it! YOU are the only person who thinks moggie is derogatory! Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net www.kelltek.com Check out www.snittens.com I guess I am more sensative to the feelings of cats then. SignatureCat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > Don't you get it! YOU are the only person who thinks moggie is > derogatory! > I guess I am more sensative to the feelings of cats then. You guess wrong. Use your HEAD. >From: "Cat Protector" >I guess I am more sensative to the feelings of cats then. I'm sensitive to the feelings of cats and like to pick cat names that suit them. Do you really think they care WHAT you call them? Mine say "call me anything, just don't call me late for dinner"! Janet Boss http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience >>From: "Cat Protector" > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ >http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience LOL! That's a good one. > >From: "Cat Protector" > > >I guess I am more sensative to the feelings of cats then. > > I'm sensitive to the feelings of cats and like to pick cat names that suit them. Do you really think they care WHAT you call them? Mine say "call me > anything, just don't call me late for dinner"! He DOES think they care. And you know, despite his opposable thumbs and large forebrain I'm thinking their IQs may be similar. CP may commune with the cats on a, erm, deeper level than we can. > Janet Boss > http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ > http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience > It may seem rediculous but would you call a human child a "half breed" > affectionatly? I call my dog a 'mutt' affectionately. I refer to myself and my GF as 'dykes' affectionately. It's in the intent, not the word. Or don't you listen to rap, filled with the 'n' word said in pride by the hip-hopster African Americans? Signature-- ~kaeli~ If a chicken and a half can lay an egg and a half in a day and a half, how long would it take for a monkey with a wooden leg to kick the dill seeds out of a pickle? http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > > It may seem rediculous but would you call a human child a "half breed" > > affectionatly? > > I call my dog a 'mutt' affectionately. > I refer to myself and my GF as 'dykes' affectionately. OMG! Yer a DYKE! ;) >> I call my dog a 'mutt' affectionately. >> I refer to myself and my GF as 'dykes' affectionately. > >OMG! Yer a DYKE! ;) Now that's a weird word. I wonder where it originated. I have a couple of gay friends who refer to themselves as "Lebanese"--that originated from a mispronunciation from a young niece of theirs. We use it (affectionately) so much with each other, I have to remember not to use it outside the "private joke" circle. Sherry > >> I call my dog a 'mutt' affectionately. > >> I refer to myself and my GF as 'dykes' affectionately. > > > >OMG! Yer a DYKE! ;) > > > Now that's a weird word. I wonder where it originated. I have a couple of gay friends who refer to themselves as "Lebanese"--that originated from a mispronunciation from a young niece of theirs. That's really cute. We use it (affectionately) so much with each other, I have to remember not to use it outside the "private > joke" circle. > Sherry It always makes me think of little Dutch boys. > >> I call my dog a 'mutt' affectionately. > >> I refer to myself and my GF as 'dykes' affectionately. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > joke" circle. > Sherry LOL! Now that's a new one. ;-) Kids often do misunderstand words/pronunciations, though. Like "next door" = "necks store". :-) Cathy > > >> I call my dog a 'mutt' affectionately. > > >> I refer to myself and my GF as 'dykes' affectionately. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Cathy In kindergarten I used to think the alphabet was "...h-i-j-k-l-m-minnow-p....". My nickname was "Minnow" and I thought it was cool that my name was in the alphabet. :) -L. > > > >> I call my dog a 'mutt' affectionately. > > > >> I refer to myself and my GF as 'dykes' affectionately. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > -L. I can see how that could happen. ;-) LMNOP are run together awfully fast when the alphabet's recited. Cathy > >> I call my dog a 'mutt' affectionately. > >> I refer to myself and my GF as 'dykes' affectionately. > > > >OMG! Yer a DYKE! ;) > > > Now that's a weird word. I wonder where it originated. I believe the original term was "bull dyke" but I don't know for sure. maybe they mean different things...will have to make some phone calls... I have a couple of gay > friends who refer to themselves as "Lebanese"--that originated from a > mispronunciation from a young niece of theirs. We use it (affectionately) so > much with each other, I have to remember not to use it outside the "private > joke" circle. now THAT's funny! -L. > > > It may seem rediculous but would you call a human child a "half breed" > > > affectionatly? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > OMG! Yer a DYKE! ;) Hey, that's MS. Dyke to you. *heh* Signature-- ~kaeli~ I do whatever my Rice Krispies tell me to. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace (...) > I refer to myself and my GF as 'dykes' affectionately. It's better than 'basalt intrusion', I suppose. > It's in the intent, not the word. Indeed. Just the other day I called a mate of mine a pig-f.cking, drooling cretin who smells like rancid cheese. Then again, he did beat me senseless with an entrenching tool, so perhaps the intent only goes so far. Pointlessly, Steve. > There is a debate going on in a thread about whether or not "moggie" is a > derogatory term. > I, as I suspect other US cat-lovers, picked up the term here from our UK > friends, thinking it to mean an affectionate name for our mixed-breed cats. Yes, or merely descriptive. > UK people, are we using it correctly? AFAIK. Does it have any negative > connotations, as one could argue "mutt" does? I've heard dog people > affectionately call their dogs mutts, but it can be used negatively. I suspect the same is true - either way. In the negative sense, esp. if a person is sensitive about their dog or cat being a purebred animal; then my guess is that they would take exception to either term being applied. <g> > Someone has argued calling a mixed-breed cat a "moggie" is equal to calling > a black person "the n word". I think that's ludicrous. You're not the only one who thinks it's ludicrous. Cathy - my cats are/have all been moggies. :-) > There is a debate going on in a thread about whether or not "moggie" is a > derogatory term. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Someone has argued calling a mixed-breed cat a "moggie" is equal to calling > a black person "the n word". I think that's ludicrous. I first saw that term on this forum and always took it to be an endearing one. I actually think it's neat that our UK friends have a one-word term for a mixed breed cat. We don't have anything other than "alley cat," which is a dated term at best. Rene >> There is a debate going on in a thread about whether or not "moggie" is a >> derogatory term. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Rene I like your style. I, too, saw it for the first time here. I had always called my mixed tabbie "just a cat". Now I call her a Moggie! MLB I have asked several British friends over the years, and moggie has always been a term of endearment. ie. "good thing". Anyone who thinks it's a bad term either a) does not understand the English language or b) can't read. LOL ~Melanie > There is a debate going on in a thread about whether or not "moggie" is a > derogatory term. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > connotations, as one could argue "mutt" does? I've heard dog people > affectionately call their dogs mutts, but it can be used negatively. I have never associated anything negative with moggie or mutt. But I'm pro-moggie and pro-mutt, so there ya go... > Someone has argued calling a mixed-breed cat a "moggie" is equal to calling > a black person "the n word". I think that's ludicrous. I do too. -L. |
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