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- 13 Oct 2004 07:38 GMT
Does anyone have information on this?

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zuzu22@webtv.net - 13 Oct 2004 14:25 GMT
>Does anyone have information on this?

Yes. Don't do it:
http://community-2.webtv.net/zuzu22/toilettraining/

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ceb2 - 17 Oct 2004 01:44 GMT
> Does anyone have information on this?

My father's uncle had his cat's trained to do this, but I'm not sure
this is doing the car any favors. Kind of goes against the natural
order of things, doncha think.
Mary - 17 Oct 2004 03:09 GMT
> > Does anyone have information on this?
>
> My father's uncle had his cat's trained to do this, but I'm not sure
> this is doing the car any favors. Kind of goes against the natural order
of things, doncha think.

Yep. Kind of like the declawing you just had done to your three beautiful
kittens who trusted you.
PawsForThought - 17 Oct 2004 13:53 GMT
>From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com

>> <ninelives@grandecom.net> wrote in message
>news:<10mpjagpurfme67@corp.supernews.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Yep. Kind of like the declawing you just had done to your three beautiful
>kittens who trusted you.

No kidding!  Yuck :(
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Mary - 17 Oct 2004 17:58 GMT
> >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> No kidding!  Yuck :(
> ________

But we are not supposed to bring that up now. "Ceb2" confessed to us and
eased his conscience, so now we are supposed to just welcome him among those
whose cats are more important than their furniture, as though he did not pay
someone to amputate the beautiful little toes of those kittens.
PawsForThought - 17 Oct 2004 20:39 GMT
>From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com

>> >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com
>>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>whose cats are more important than their furniture, as though he did not pay
>someone to amputate the beautiful little toes of those kittens.

Oh yeah, he thinks he's got absolution now.  Maybe he should get see his priest
instead, LOL
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ceb2 - 18 Oct 2004 02:33 GMT
> > >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com
>  
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> whose cats are more important than their furniture, as though he did not pay
> someone to amputate the beautiful little toes of those kittens.

You must of course realize that I am not the only poster here to have
declawed their cat. I'm sure that there are many, if not hundreds of
posters here who have done this. Some regulars. Some would surprise
you. I'm merely one of the few to have admitted it. And no, I don't
expect to be welcomed with open arms, I really don't care. If you
despise me that much, simpy ignore me or killfile me. But if I feel I
have some relative experience regarding the behavior of cats (the true
purpose of this board, not, as you would have us believe, a sounding
board for anti declawers) I intend to post. If you disagree, please
post a counter point. But how productive is it for you to off topic
every response I make. I'm sure the regulars here who are as opposed
to what I've done are as appalled as you and know well who I am.
Mary - 18 Oct 2004 03:06 GMT
> > > >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com
> >
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> every response I make. I'm sure the regulars here who are as opposed
> to what I've done are as appalled as you and know well who I am.

The topic is cats. Post all you like. Post what you like. I will do the
same.
ceb2 - 18 Oct 2004 13:01 GMT
> > "Mary" <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>  news:<Iwxcd.26745$n%3.4019473@twister.southeast.rr.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 39 lines]
> The topic is cats. Post all you like. Post what you like. I will do the
> same.

Fair enough.
Mary - 18 Oct 2004 14:38 GMT
> > > "Mary" <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >  news:<Iwxcd.26745$n%3.4019473@twister.southeast.rr.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
>
> Fair enough.

It's what I love about Usenet.
equalizer - 18 Oct 2004 20:57 GMT
<SNIP>>> >
>> > The topic is cats. Post all you like. Post what you like. I will do the
>> > same.
>>
>> Fair enough.
>
>It's what I love about Usenet.

And it's a hell of a lot fairer than what those poor cats got.

eq
Arjun Ray - 19 Oct 2004 04:50 GMT
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:57:40 -0400,  wrote:

> And it's a hell of a lot fairer than what those poor cats got.

Oh man, yes.  

What really gets to me is the matter-of-fact manner in which people
who don't know approach the subject of declawing.  Unsceupulous vets
have scored a home run in establishing the myth that declawing is some
kind of "routine" procedure, no big deal, etc. etc.

And that's the sad truth.  As long as people don't give the idea a
second thought, the abuse will continue.

As for this moron ceb2 who thinks he "researched" the subject, the less
said the better.
Mary - 24 Oct 2004 01:57 GMT
> On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:57:40 -0400,  wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> What really gets to me is the matter-of-fact manner in which people who
don't know approach the subject of declawing.  Unscrupulous vets  have
scored a home run in establishing the myth that declawing is some  kind of
"routine" procedure, no big deal, etc. etc.

> And that's the sad truth.  As long as people don't give the idea a second
thought, the abuse will continue.

> As for this moron ceb2 who thinks he "researched" the subject, the less
said the better.

It's The Cat As Object, as near as I can tell.
Arjun Ray - 24 Oct 2004 07:17 GMT
>> As for this moron ceb2 who thinks he "researched" the subject, the less
>> said the better.
>
> It's The Cat As Object, as near as I can tell.

Objects tend to be disposable.
Mary - 24 Oct 2004 17:04 GMT
> >> As for this moron ceb2 who thinks he "researched" the subject, the less
> >> said the better.
> >
> > It's The Cat As Object, as near as I can tell.
>
> Objects tend to be disposable.

Yep. And if they dare to damage your OTHER STUFF, well of course you have to
lop off the offending parts. Dickheads like Ceb2 and the Idiot Who Calls
Herself Electric Nachos are going to burn somewhere. The combined ill will
of millions of cat lovers cannot be thwarted. :)  Ill fortune will bend,
swerve, and run the *&%$ over these cretins, I just know it.
Mary - 24 Oct 2004 01:48 GMT
> <SNIP>>> >
> >> > The topic is cats. Post all you like. Post what you like. I will do the
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> eq

Yep. THREE cats. *Shudder*
PawsForThought - 18 Oct 2004 12:33 GMT
>From: svendlho@aol.com  (ceb2)

>> > >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com
>>  
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>declawed their cat. I'm sure that there are many, if not hundreds of
>posters here who have done this.

Firstly, no matter if a million did it, it still doesn't make it right, now
does it?  Secondly, I doubt there are hundreds here who have done it.  In the
whole time I've been posting here I think I've only seen a handful.  Most
people here are against digit amputation.  Irregardless, you are still looking
for excuses.  What really makes it bad in your case is that you knew exactly
what declawing entailed before you did it, but yet you still chose to have the
ends of your kittens' toes amputated.  In my book, that makes you doubly
despicable.
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ceb2 - 18 Oct 2004 19:48 GMT
> >From: svendlho@aol.com  (ceb2)
>  
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> ends of your kittens' toes amputated.  In my book, that makes you doubly
> despicable.

Actually, more than a handfull have e-mailed me in confidence sonce my
original post to tell me they did it. Not neccessarily in support of
it but that they also did it. Like I said, some of the names would
surprise you. So, maybe your right, maybe not hundreds, but definatley
several here who pose as regulars have e-mailed me in private. Don't
fool yourself.

And I'm not looking for any excuses for anything.

> ________
> See my cats:  http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
> Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
> http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
> Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
equalizer - 18 Oct 2004 20:59 GMT
<SNIP>

>Actually, more than a handfull have e-mailed me in confidence sonce my
>original post to tell me they did it. Not neccessarily in support of
>it but that they also did it. Like I said, some of the names would
>surprise you. So, maybe your right, maybe not hundreds, but definatley
>several here who pose as regulars have e-mailed me in private. Don't
>fool yourself.

Hey look everyone! The old "I'm getting LOTS of support in email" lame!
Wow -- in about 15 years on USENET, Relaynet, and Fidonet, that's the
first time I've **ever** seen that!

eq

>And I'm not looking for any excuses for anything.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>> http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
>> Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
ceb - 18 Oct 2004 21:34 GMT
> Hey look everyone! The old "I'm getting LOTS of support in email" lame!
> Wow -- in about 15 years on USENET, Relaynet, and Fidonet, that's the
> first time I've **ever** seen that!

Do you know of the excellent ballad, "The Lurkers Support Me in Email"?:

http://www.bluejo.demon.co.uk/poetry/interstichia/lurkers.htm

--Catherine
& Rosalie the calicohead
equalizer - 18 Oct 2004 22:17 GMT
>> Hey look everyone! The old "I'm getting LOTS of support in email" lame!
>> Wow -- in about 15 years on USENET, Relaynet, and Fidonet, that's the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>--Catherine
>& Rosalie the calicohead

BWAHAAAHHAAAHHAA!
kaeli - 19 Oct 2004 14:15 GMT
> > Hey look everyone! The old "I'm getting LOTS of support in email" lame!
> > Wow -- in about 15 years on USENET, Relaynet, and Fidonet, that's the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> http://www.bluejo.demon.co.uk/poetry/interstichia/lurkers.htm

Oh, man!

"Category: The Websense category "Games" is filtered.

URL: http://www.bluejo.demon.co.uk/poetry/interstichia/lurkers.htm"

Can someone post it here? Please?  :)

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ceb - 19 Oct 2004 15:17 GMT
>> > Hey look everyone! The old "I'm getting LOTS of support in email"
>> > lame! Wow -- in about 15 years on USENET, Relaynet, and Fidonet,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Can someone post it here? Please?  :)

Try this one:

http://www.prometheus6.org/?q=comment/reply/204

I'd copy and paste it, but it specifically says not to do that without
permission...

--Catherine
& Rosalie the calicohead
kaeli - 19 Oct 2004 18:29 GMT
> Try this one:
>
> http://www.prometheus6.org/?q=comment/reply/204
>
> I'd copy and paste it, but it specifically says not to do that without
> permission...

Oh, dear, THAT'S funny. *laughs*

Thanks for the link.

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Mary - 24 Oct 2004 01:49 GMT
> > Hey look everyone! The old "I'm getting LOTS of support in email" lame!
> > Wow -- in about 15 years on USENET, Relaynet, and Fidonet, that's the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> --Catherine
> & Rosalie the calicohead

Ahaa!! I love this!
kaeli - 18 Oct 2004 21:51 GMT
> Actually, more than a handfull have e-mailed me in confidence sonce my
> original post to tell me they did it. Not neccessarily in support of
> it but that they also did it. Like I said, some of the names would
> surprise you. So, maybe your right, maybe not hundreds, but definatley
> several here who pose as regulars have e-mailed me in private. Don't
> fool yourself.

I have this girlfriend in Canada. You've never met her.
/Breakfast Club

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equalizer - 18 Oct 2004 22:33 GMT
>> Actually, more than a handfull have e-mailed me in confidence sonce my
>> original post to tell me they did it. Not neccessarily in support of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>I have this girlfriend in Canada. You've never met her.
>/Breakfast Club

The Email Support Lame is so prevalent among newbies that it should have
it's own penalty, like Godwin's Law. In this case, I think CEB2's use of
it is pretty much an automatic indication that everything he posts is
suspect and contrived.

eq
Mary - 24 Oct 2004 01:51 GMT
> >> Actually, more than a handfull have e-mailed me in confidence sonce my
> >> original post to tell me they did it. Not neccessarily in support of
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> it's own penalty, like Godwin's Law. In this case, I think CEB2's use of
> it is pretty much an automatic indication that everything he posts is
suspect and contrived.

> eq

What kind of prick mutilates three cats over furniture?
Arjun Ray - 24 Oct 2004 05:49 GMT
> What kind of prick mutilates three cats over furniture?

The kind who has peed-on furniture in his future.
Mary - 24 Oct 2004 01:45 GMT
"ceb2" <svendlho@aol.com> wrote>
> Actually, more than a handfull have e-mailed me in confidence sonce my
original post to tell me they did it.

LOL, the old Secret Email Supporters.
ceb2 - 17 Oct 2004 15:10 GMT
> > <ninelives@grandecom.net> wrote in message
>  news:<10mpjagpurfme67@corp.supernews.com>...
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Yep. Kind of like the declawing you just had done to your three beautiful
> kittens who trusted you.

Oh! How refreshingly original Mary. Well played! Touche!
kaeli - 18 Oct 2004 15:02 GMT
> > > My father's uncle had his cat's trained to do this, but I'm not sure
> > > this is doing the car any favors. Kind of goes against the natural order
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Oh! How refreshingly original Mary. Well played! Touche!

Well, honestly, you are the last person to talk about what's natural, now,
eh? What, did you think no one would notice the utter hypocrisy of such a
post from you?

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