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Training a cat to use the toilet
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Does anyone have information on this?
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zuzu22@webtv.net - 13 Oct 2004 14:25 GMT >Does anyone have information on this? Yes. Don't do it: http://community-2.webtv.net/zuzu22/toilettraining/
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ceb2 - 17 Oct 2004 01:44 GMT > Does anyone have information on this? My father's uncle had his cat's trained to do this, but I'm not sure this is doing the car any favors. Kind of goes against the natural order of things, doncha think.
Mary - 17 Oct 2004 03:09 GMT > > Does anyone have information on this? > > My father's uncle had his cat's trained to do this, but I'm not sure > this is doing the car any favors. Kind of goes against the natural order of things, doncha think.
Yep. Kind of like the declawing you just had done to your three beautiful kittens who trusted you.
PawsForThought - 17 Oct 2004 13:53 GMT >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com
>> <ninelives@grandecom.net> wrote in message >news:<10mpjagpurfme67@corp.supernews.com>... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Yep. Kind of like the declawing you just had done to your three beautiful >kittens who trusted you. No kidding! Yuck :( ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
Mary - 17 Oct 2004 17:58 GMT > >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > No kidding! Yuck :( > ________ But we are not supposed to bring that up now. "Ceb2" confessed to us and eased his conscience, so now we are supposed to just welcome him among those whose cats are more important than their furniture, as though he did not pay someone to amputate the beautiful little toes of those kittens.
PawsForThought - 17 Oct 2004 20:39 GMT >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com
>> >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >whose cats are more important than their furniture, as though he did not pay >someone to amputate the beautiful little toes of those kittens. Oh yeah, he thinks he's got absolution now. Maybe he should get see his priest instead, LOL ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
ceb2 - 18 Oct 2004 02:33 GMT > > >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > whose cats are more important than their furniture, as though he did not pay > someone to amputate the beautiful little toes of those kittens. You must of course realize that I am not the only poster here to have declawed their cat. I'm sure that there are many, if not hundreds of posters here who have done this. Some regulars. Some would surprise you. I'm merely one of the few to have admitted it. And no, I don't expect to be welcomed with open arms, I really don't care. If you despise me that much, simpy ignore me or killfile me. But if I feel I have some relative experience regarding the behavior of cats (the true purpose of this board, not, as you would have us believe, a sounding board for anti declawers) I intend to post. If you disagree, please post a counter point. But how productive is it for you to off topic every response I make. I'm sure the regulars here who are as opposed to what I've done are as appalled as you and know well who I am.
Mary - 18 Oct 2004 03:06 GMT > > > >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com > > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > every response I make. I'm sure the regulars here who are as opposed > to what I've done are as appalled as you and know well who I am. The topic is cats. Post all you like. Post what you like. I will do the same.
ceb2 - 18 Oct 2004 13:01 GMT > > "Mary" <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:<Iwxcd.26745$n%3.4019473@twister.southeast.rr.com>... [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > The topic is cats. Post all you like. Post what you like. I will do the > same. Fair enough.
Mary - 18 Oct 2004 14:38 GMT > > > "Mary" <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:<Iwxcd.26745$n%3.4019473@twister.southeast.rr.com>... [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > > Fair enough. It's what I love about Usenet.
equalizer - 18 Oct 2004 20:57 GMT <SNIP>>> >
>> > The topic is cats. Post all you like. Post what you like. I will do the >> > same. >> >> Fair enough. > >It's what I love about Usenet. And it's a hell of a lot fairer than what those poor cats got.
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Arjun Ray - 19 Oct 2004 04:50 GMT On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:57:40 -0400, wrote:
> And it's a hell of a lot fairer than what those poor cats got. Oh man, yes.
What really gets to me is the matter-of-fact manner in which people who don't know approach the subject of declawing. Unsceupulous vets have scored a home run in establishing the myth that declawing is some kind of "routine" procedure, no big deal, etc. etc.
And that's the sad truth. As long as people don't give the idea a second thought, the abuse will continue.
As for this moron ceb2 who thinks he "researched" the subject, the less said the better.
Mary - 24 Oct 2004 01:57 GMT > On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:57:40 -0400, wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > What really gets to me is the matter-of-fact manner in which people who don't know approach the subject of declawing. Unscrupulous vets have scored a home run in establishing the myth that declawing is some kind of "routine" procedure, no big deal, etc. etc.
> And that's the sad truth. As long as people don't give the idea a second thought, the abuse will continue.
> As for this moron ceb2 who thinks he "researched" the subject, the less said the better.
It's The Cat As Object, as near as I can tell.
Arjun Ray - 24 Oct 2004 07:17 GMT >> As for this moron ceb2 who thinks he "researched" the subject, the less >> said the better. > > It's The Cat As Object, as near as I can tell. Objects tend to be disposable.
Mary - 24 Oct 2004 17:04 GMT > >> As for this moron ceb2 who thinks he "researched" the subject, the less > >> said the better. > > > > It's The Cat As Object, as near as I can tell. > > Objects tend to be disposable. Yep. And if they dare to damage your OTHER STUFF, well of course you have to lop off the offending parts. Dickheads like Ceb2 and the Idiot Who Calls Herself Electric Nachos are going to burn somewhere. The combined ill will of millions of cat lovers cannot be thwarted. :) Ill fortune will bend, swerve, and run the *&%$ over these cretins, I just know it.
Mary - 24 Oct 2004 01:48 GMT > <SNIP>>> > > >> > The topic is cats. Post all you like. Post what you like. I will do the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > eq Yep. THREE cats. *Shudder*
PawsForThought - 18 Oct 2004 12:33 GMT >From: svendlho@aol.com (ceb2)
>> > >From: "Mary" crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >declawed their cat. I'm sure that there are many, if not hundreds of >posters here who have done this. Firstly, no matter if a million did it, it still doesn't make it right, now does it? Secondly, I doubt there are hundreds here who have done it. In the whole time I've been posting here I think I've only seen a handful. Most people here are against digit amputation. Irregardless, you are still looking for excuses. What really makes it bad in your case is that you knew exactly what declawing entailed before you did it, but yet you still chose to have the ends of your kittens' toes amputated. In my book, that makes you doubly despicable. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm
ceb2 - 18 Oct 2004 19:48 GMT > >From: svendlho@aol.com (ceb2) > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > ends of your kittens' toes amputated. In my book, that makes you doubly > despicable. Actually, more than a handfull have e-mailed me in confidence sonce my original post to tell me they did it. Not neccessarily in support of it but that they also did it. Like I said, some of the names would surprise you. So, maybe your right, maybe not hundreds, but definatley several here who pose as regulars have e-mailed me in private. Don't fool yourself.
And I'm not looking for any excuses for anything.
> ________ > See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe > Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html > http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html > Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm equalizer - 18 Oct 2004 20:59 GMT <SNIP>
>Actually, more than a handfull have e-mailed me in confidence sonce my >original post to tell me they did it. Not neccessarily in support of >it but that they also did it. Like I said, some of the names would >surprise you. So, maybe your right, maybe not hundreds, but definatley >several here who pose as regulars have e-mailed me in private. Don't >fool yourself. Hey look everyone! The old "I'm getting LOTS of support in email" lame! Wow -- in about 15 years on USENET, Relaynet, and Fidonet, that's the first time I've **ever** seen that!
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>And I'm not looking for any excuses for anything. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html >> Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm ceb - 18 Oct 2004 21:34 GMT > Hey look everyone! The old "I'm getting LOTS of support in email" lame! > Wow -- in about 15 years on USENET, Relaynet, and Fidonet, that's the > first time I've **ever** seen that! Do you know of the excellent ballad, "The Lurkers Support Me in Email"?:
http://www.bluejo.demon.co.uk/poetry/interstichia/lurkers.htm
--Catherine & Rosalie the calicohead
equalizer - 18 Oct 2004 22:17 GMT >> Hey look everyone! The old "I'm getting LOTS of support in email" lame! >> Wow -- in about 15 years on USENET, Relaynet, and Fidonet, that's the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >--Catherine >& Rosalie the calicohead BWAHAAAHHAAAHHAA!
kaeli - 19 Oct 2004 14:15 GMT > > Hey look everyone! The old "I'm getting LOTS of support in email" lame! > > Wow -- in about 15 years on USENET, Relaynet, and Fidonet, that's the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://www.bluejo.demon.co.uk/poetry/interstichia/lurkers.htm Oh, man!
"Category: The Websense category "Games" is filtered.
URL: http://www.bluejo.demon.co.uk/poetry/interstichia/lurkers.htm"
Can someone post it here? Please? :)
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ceb - 19 Oct 2004 15:17 GMT >> > Hey look everyone! The old "I'm getting LOTS of support in email" >> > lame! Wow -- in about 15 years on USENET, Relaynet, and Fidonet, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Can someone post it here? Please? :) Try this one:
http://www.prometheus6.org/?q=comment/reply/204
I'd copy and paste it, but it specifically says not to do that without permission...
--Catherine & Rosalie the calicohead
kaeli - 19 Oct 2004 18:29 GMT > Try this one: > > http://www.prometheus6.org/?q=comment/reply/204 > > I'd copy and paste it, but it specifically says not to do that without > permission... Oh, dear, THAT'S funny. *laughs*
Thanks for the link.
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Mary - 24 Oct 2004 01:49 GMT > > Hey look everyone! The old "I'm getting LOTS of support in email" lame! > > Wow -- in about 15 years on USENET, Relaynet, and Fidonet, that's the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > --Catherine > & Rosalie the calicohead Ahaa!! I love this!
kaeli - 18 Oct 2004 21:51 GMT > Actually, more than a handfull have e-mailed me in confidence sonce my > original post to tell me they did it. Not neccessarily in support of > it but that they also did it. Like I said, some of the names would > surprise you. So, maybe your right, maybe not hundreds, but definatley > several here who pose as regulars have e-mailed me in private. Don't > fool yourself. I have this girlfriend in Canada. You've never met her. /Breakfast Club
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equalizer - 18 Oct 2004 22:33 GMT >> Actually, more than a handfull have e-mailed me in confidence sonce my >> original post to tell me they did it. Not neccessarily in support of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >I have this girlfriend in Canada. You've never met her. >/Breakfast Club The Email Support Lame is so prevalent among newbies that it should have it's own penalty, like Godwin's Law. In this case, I think CEB2's use of it is pretty much an automatic indication that everything he posts is suspect and contrived.
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Mary - 24 Oct 2004 01:51 GMT > >> Actually, more than a handfull have e-mailed me in confidence sonce my > >> original post to tell me they did it. Not neccessarily in support of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > it's own penalty, like Godwin's Law. In this case, I think CEB2's use of > it is pretty much an automatic indication that everything he posts is suspect and contrived.
> eq What kind of prick mutilates three cats over furniture?
Arjun Ray - 24 Oct 2004 05:49 GMT > What kind of prick mutilates three cats over furniture? The kind who has peed-on furniture in his future.
Mary - 24 Oct 2004 01:45 GMT "ceb2" <svendlho@aol.com> wrote>
> Actually, more than a handfull have e-mailed me in confidence sonce my original post to tell me they did it.
LOL, the old Secret Email Supporters.
ceb2 - 17 Oct 2004 15:10 GMT > > <ninelives@grandecom.net> wrote in message > news:<10mpjagpurfme67@corp.supernews.com>... [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yep. Kind of like the declawing you just had done to your three beautiful > kittens who trusted you. Oh! How refreshingly original Mary. Well played! Touche!
kaeli - 18 Oct 2004 15:02 GMT > > > My father's uncle had his cat's trained to do this, but I'm not sure > > > this is doing the car any favors. Kind of goes against the natural order [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Oh! How refreshingly original Mary. Well played! Touche! Well, honestly, you are the last person to talk about what's natural, now, eh? What, did you think no one would notice the utter hypocrisy of such a post from you?
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