Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / October 2004
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MacCandace - 10 Oct 2004 03:31 GMT I posted 7 new photos, 3 of my monster kitty, Marbles, who is still misbehaving. He seemed as though he had improved but yesterday he went after Scottie and today he went after Abbey. Sigh. Soon we're having a workshop built onto our house, this fall, I hope, so that will open our master bedroom up which is currently a workshop that the cats aren't allowed in. I guess we might wind up keeping them separated indefinitely with just an hour or 2 a day where he is out with the others. It's all too weird.
Anyway, I also posted a pic of my brother, Henry (my mom's cat), one of Scottie and one of Abbey, and one of my late cat, Cory, with Scottie and Abbey as one big happy family...something we no longer have. I just sent some film in and we had an old roll in one camera so I got 4 more pics of Cory that I don't know we had. That was nice.
They're the last 7 photos in the Cat album.
Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail)
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Karen Chuplis - 10 Oct 2004 03:41 GMT > I posted 7 new photos, 3 of my monster kitty, Marbles, who is still > misbehaving. He seemed as though he had improved but yesterday he went after [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other > than human." (Loren Eisely) If it helps at all, this Oct. 25 is 2 years from the date I got Pearl. She can actually occasionally play with Grant, Sugar is still a wimp about Pearl, but it's all pretty harmless and sometimes half "fun" when Pearl (rarely) gives chase (and Pearl always stops at the bedroom door), and at meal time Pearl will let Grant briefly sniff her or nuzzle her. There is hope.
Cathy Friedmann - 10 Oct 2004 03:55 GMT > > I posted 7 new photos, 3 of my monster kitty, Marbles, who is still > > misbehaving. He seemed as though he had improved but yesterday he went after [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > meal time Pearl will let Grant briefly sniff her or nuzzle her. There is > hope. Yep. It's been 5 years and a month since I adopted Herrie. Demelza & Herrie can now lie side-by-side at the front door (reg. door open, storm dr. all glass) watching the squirrels. There is the occasional scrabble - a *loud* one yesterday - but Demelza is no longer cowed by them for long. Yesterday's deal caused her to remain in hiding for maybe 2 minutes - then she was out & acting normally again. (These things *never* bother Herrie; although, granted, he intiates them!)
Cathy
Karen Chuplis - 10 Oct 2004 03:45 GMT > I posted 7 new photos, 3 of my monster kitty, Marbles, who is still > misbehaving. He seemed as though he had improved but yesterday he went after [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other > than human." (Loren Eisely) My what a handsome crew!
KellyH - 10 Oct 2004 03:51 GMT >I posted 7 new photos, 3 of my monster kitty, Marbles, who is still > misbehaving. He seemed as though he had improved but yesterday he went [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > They're the last 7 photos in the Cat album. Cute pictures! Glad to finally see what Marbles looks like. He's so cute for such a troublemaker.
BTW - Have you tried any extended periods of time with Marbles out? Or is he usually hustled back into the room after he chases one of the other cats? I honestly have to wonder if it wouldn't be better to just let him out and let the cats figure out the new arrangement. I can't see how keeping them separate forever is good. My cats chase and wrestle around with each other, but it's all play, with the exception of Bartleby and NewCat. For some reason, she won't stand up to him and if he looks at her funny, she takes off. But, this only happens like a couple times a month or so. Bartleby gets a bug up his butt that he must pick on NewCat. I'm not trying to sound discouraging, and I know others are going to disagree with me. I've been reading about Marbles' intergration and you sound so frustrated. I really hope it does work out. If it doesn't, don't feel like a failure. Maybe you can keep him as a foster while the rescue group finds an "only cat" home for him. Good luck!
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Cathy Friedmann - 10 Oct 2004 03:57 GMT > Cute pictures! Glad to finally see what Marbles looks like. He's so cute > for such a troublemaker. That's what I was thinking - he looks perfectly innocent! Looks can be deceiving. ;-)
Cathy
MacCandace - 10 Oct 2004 05:04 GMT << That's what I was thinking - he looks perfectly innocent! Looks can be deceiving. ;-)
Cathy >>
Yeah, he's pretty cute, I keep telling him that he's lucky he's cute (of course, what cat isn't?) or he wouldn't have any redeeming qualities. He's also very sweet to humans so he has 2 good qualities. Well, and he potties where he's supposed to, so he has 3 good qualities.
Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail)
See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace
"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely)
MacCandace - 10 Oct 2004 04:59 GMT << Maybe you can keep him as a foster while the rescue group finds an "only cat" home for him. Good luck! >>
We're pretty attached to the little guy now so it'd be hard to give him up.
As for how long he's out, sometimes he's out 3-4 hours without an incident. Quite a bit of that lately, in fact, until yesterday. But even those times when he is out for a long time and nothing bad happens, Scottie and Abbey still remain in hiding. The problem really lies with them, I think. They truly are not normal cats. They are beyond wusses. I just feel too guilty leaving Marbles out more than 3-4 hours because I worry that they are so miserable and may have to potty or eat. I worry that, since they are so horrified, they might quit eating or get sick or develop behavioral problems or something if they are under constant stress. Right now, the "incident" today happened about 7 hours ago, and Scottie and Abbey are still hdiing. I shoved their food into their hiding places and they've eaten but still in hiding. I briefly lured them out with grass and they came and ate it but went back under to their respective hiding places.
It would be very hard to give Marbles up and it would have to be to someone I knew and trusted...and that won't happen, I don't think. Once we get that other room, it gives them more room to spread out. That's what I'm shooting for...and then I'm thinking of getting our patio screened in after that so that would open up another new area. More space and more time, that's my hope for the future...
Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail)
See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace
"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely)
KellyH - 10 Oct 2004 18:34 GMT > We're pretty attached to the little guy now so it'd be hard to give him > up. I understand. We just had someone return a cat at the shelter who gave it three years and ended up dividing her house because the two cats couldn't get along. She returned the cat who was the one being picked on, figuring we would have a better chance finding a home for a wussy cat instead of the aggressive cat. It was very hard for her. Sometimes I wonder if my cat NewCat, who's a big wuss, would rather be an only. I have her because she was being picked on mercilessly at her former home. She gets picked on a little bit here, but can avoid it for the most part. We went on vacation a few weeks ago and we took NewCat to the cottage. She was talkative and all over us. She never makes a sound here at home. I think she felt a little more free to be herself without all the other cats around. We went through a couple weeks once where she decided not to come out from under the bed. I think it started because I had a litterbox upstairs for Dash (RB) as she was ill and couldn't always make it to the boxes in the basement. I started bringing food and water up and putting it under the bed for her. My husband felt I was "enabling" NewCat and pulled her out from under the bed and shut the bedroom door. I was furious and thought he was being mean. NewCat sat for a while outside the door, but then joined the family downstairs. I wish NewCat could understand me when I tell her to turn around and swat back and Bartleby, and he'll stop it. He tries this sh*t with the other cats, and that's what they do. Instead, she runs under the bed or the desk and lets him intimidate her.
> It would be very hard to give Marbles up and it would have to be to > someone I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Candace > (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) Maybe more room will give Abbey and Scottie and Marbles room to spread out and each claim their own spots. I really hope it all works out!
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MacCandace - 10 Oct 2004 19:12 GMT << Maybe more room will give Abbey and Scottie and Marbles room to spread out and each claim their own spots. I really hope it all works out! >>
Thanks. Wow, that would be awful to have a cat for 3 years and then feel like you had to return it. I do think Marbles might have been happier if someone else had chosen him and I know Scottie and Abbey would but the deed is done now.
Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail)
See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace
"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely)
Karen Chuplis - 10 Oct 2004 18:34 GMT > << Maybe you can keep him as a foster while the rescue group finds an "only > cat" home for him. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other > than human." (Loren Eisely) I think that's a really big improvement from what you have posted before. I think time is your key. I really do. And adding the extra room is bound to help as well.
MacCandace - 10 Oct 2004 19:13 GMT << I think that's a really big improvement from what you have posted before. I think time is your key. I really do. And adding the extra room is bound to help as well. >>
I hope so, thanks.
Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail)
See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace
"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely)
Gail - 10 Oct 2004 16:14 GMT All are beautiful!! Gail
>I posted 7 new photos, 3 of my monster kitty, Marbles, who is still > misbehaving. He seemed as though he had improved but yesterday he went [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > other > than human." (Loren Eisely) MacCandace - 10 Oct 2004 19:12 GMT << All are beautiful!! Gail >>
Thanks!
Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail)
See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace
"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely)
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