In deciding what to feed my cat, and after googling for info, I had come to
the conclusion that a diet of dry and wet food would be good. However my cat
seems to gravitate to the dry food more. My concern is that I've read that
on dry food it's possible male cats won't get the moisture they need and
won't always drink enough water. It seems the male cat should be urinating a
lot. Maybe I should be rationing the dry food so that he can't get full off
of it and hopefully he will eat more wet food. Seems simple enough, but as
I've found in a lot of cases with this cat, there ain't no simple. What do
ya all think, should I be overly concerned about it?

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Mary - 29 Sep 2004 02:03 GMT
> In deciding what to feed my cat, and after googling for info, I had come to
> the conclusion that a diet of dry and wet food would be good. However my cat
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> I've found in a lot of cases with this cat, there ain't no simple. What do
> ya all think, should I be overly concerned about it?
This is not really an answer to your queston, but a suggestion re getting
more water into your cat. Several people here posted that cats like
to drink water from a variety of places around the house, and that they
will drink more if you provide more watering places. I found this to be
true. We had two water dishes, one for each cat. We now have four
and judging from the way the levels go down between morning and
evening my cats appear to be drinking almost twice as much water
as they used to. Also, my strange little tabby loves the cold filtered
water that comes out of the fridge, out of the front of the door. She
waits for it like the other waits for food every morning, and drinks
for a long time. (FWIW my cats get wet and dry food.)
Phil P. - 29 Sep 2004 02:16 GMT
> In deciding what to feed my cat, and after googling for info, I had come to
> the conclusion that a diet of dry and wet food would be good. However my cat
> seems to gravitate to the dry food more. My concern is that I've read that
> on dry food it's possible male cats won't get the moisture they need and
> won't always drink enough water.
You're right. Cats fed dry food drink about 6x more water than cats fed
canned food but their total water intake and turnover is actually less than
cats fed canned food. Cats fed canned get over 90% of their total water
intake from their diet so they need to drink very little water, whereas cats
fed dry food get 96% of their total water intake from drinking but much of
that water is lost to fecal moisture.
The total free water intake (from food and drinking) actually decreases when
cats are fed dry food. The water to dry matter intake ratio for cats fed
canned food is 1 1/2 to 2 times higher than cats fed dry food. This is very
important for male cats who are at a much higher risk of urinary tract
obstructions than females.
It seems the male cat should be urinating a
> lot.
Most of the water dry-fed cats consume contributes to fecal moisture -
that's why their urine volume is lower.
Maybe I should be rationing the dry food so that he can't get full off
> of it and hopefully he will eat more wet food.
Good plan.
Seems simple enough, but as
> I've found in a lot of cases with this cat, there ain't no simple. What do
> ya all think, should I be overly concerned about it?
High water turnover is very important for male cats. See how their urethra
narrows kinda like a funnel where it passes over the pelvis:
http://maxshouse.com/anatomy__urogenital_system.htm
http://maxshouse.com/feline_nutrition.htm#Water Requirements
http://maxshouse.com/feline_nutrition.htm#Dry Food vs Canned Food
Phil
Karen - 29 Sep 2004 04:47 GMT
> In deciding what to feed my cat, and after googling for info, I had come to
> the conclusion that a diet of dry and wet food would be good. However my cat
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> I've found in a lot of cases with this cat, there ain't no simple. What do
> ya all think, should I be overly concerned about it?
We used to mix the two together. Might be a good compromise.
---MIKE--- - 29 Sep 2004 14:23 GMT
Amber and Tiger split a 5.5oz can of food (Wellness) about 6AM and again
at 5PM. At noon I give them a small amount of dry Wellness as a treat.
They get this again just before I retire.
---MIKE---
Mary - 29 Sep 2004 15:44 GMT
> Amber and Tiger split a 5.5oz can of food (Wellness) about 6AM and again
at 5PM. At noon I give them a small amount of dry Wellness as a treat. They
get this again just before I retire.
Mike, are they both at a pretty good weight?
---MIKE--- - 29 Sep 2004 18:06 GMT
Good weight? Tiger was 22 pounds the other day (on my questionable
scales) and Amber is probably about 12 pounds. They could both stand to
lose a few pounds which is why I don't leave the dry food out for them
to snack on any more. They are both inside only cats so they don't get
much exercise.
---MIKE---
Mary - 29 Sep 2004 20:15 GMT
> Good weight? Tiger was 22 pounds the other day (on my questionable
> scales) and Amber is probably about 12 pounds. They could both stand to
> lose a few pounds which is why I don't leave the dry food out for them
> to snack on any more. They are both inside only cats so they don't get
> much exercise.
I was asking because I have an overweight cat who is gaining. My cats
get a 3-0z can plus about a quarter cup each of dry every day. I was
thinking that if yours were okay on what you feed them my Buddha
might lose on it. She initially lost weight when I first put her on
mostly canned. (She lost 3.5 lbs in two years--however, she was
hyperthyroid at that time so that alone might explain her weight loss.)
I have been using the laser pointer to exercise them, every chance
I get. Have you tried it? Not only is it exercise but it is teaching
my two to play together. (Both are used to being only cats, and one
arrived five years after the other was already entrenched.)
Theresa - 29 Sep 2004 20:38 GMT
> In deciding what to feed my cat, and after googling for info, I had come to
> the conclusion that a diet of dry and wet food would be good. However my cat
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> I've found in a lot of cases with this cat, there ain't no simple. What do
> ya all think, should I be overly concerned about it?
I think you're wise to be concerned. I have a male cat who also eats a
lot more of the dry food than the wet. I put out 3 different kinds of
dry food: dental diet, hairball diet, and urinary tract. He likes all
three.
I also use two water bowls. One is the drinkwell fountain and the
other is a plain water bowl. I serve them (six cats) a saucer of
Lactaid per day. He will lap at it sometimes. My vet thinks our water
has too many minerals for cats and he recommends that they drink
bottled distilled water which I buy by the gallon jug. My guy has had
only one urinary tract infection so far and he's 8 years old.
---MIKE--- - 29 Sep 2004 23:32 GMT
I never see Amber and Tiger drink any water. I gave away my Drinkwell
because it didn't get used. There is always plenty of urine to scoop up
so they must be getting enough water from the canned food. I have six
water sources in three locations and I use spring water in them.
---MIKE---