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Angela St.Aubin - 29 Sep 2004 06:20 GMT
 I just noticed something strange on one of my cats.
Along the top ridge of her mouth, on the outside, in the fur, but right next
to her "lips" there are dozens of tiny black specs.. they look almost like
blackheads.
Any ideas of what they are, or if anything needs to be done?
Mary - 29 Sep 2004 07:02 GMT
>   I just noticed something strange on one of my cats.
> Along the top ridge of her mouth, on the outside, in the fur, but right
nex to her "lips" there are dozens of tiny black specs.. they look almost
like blackheads.
> Any ideas of what they are, or if anything needs to be done?

Sounds like cat acne. Are you using plastic dishes for her food and water?
Peggy Currid - 29 Sep 2004 12:50 GMT
>>   I just noticed something strange on one of my cats.
>> Along the top ridge of her mouth, on the outside, in the fur, but right
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Sounds like cat acne. Are you using plastic dishes for her food and water?

One of my cats had that problem when she was a couple of years ago. The
first thing we did was switch to ceramic dishes but the problem persisted,
even with the use of antibiotics and topical ointments.

It turned out she had a food allergy, and the problem cleared up when we
changed food from Iam's regular to lamb and rice.

Peggy

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Mary - 29 Sep 2004 15:32 GMT
> > Sounds like cat acne. Are you using plastic dishes for her food and water?
>
> One of my cats had that problem when she was a couple of years ago. The
first thing we did was switch to ceramic dishes but the problem persisted,
even with the use of antibiotics and topical ointments.

> It turned out she had a food allergy, and the problem cleared up when we
changed food from Iam's regular to lamb and rice.

This is good to know, Peggy. I suspect my cat Cheeky has food allergies.
Everything was going fine until I changed her food, and now both her asthma
and eosinophilic complex (linear granuloma) is acting up. I changed her back
to the low-quality food that, nevertheless, kept her Depo Medrol, congestion
and bump free for eight months.
Rene - 29 Sep 2004 14:03 GMT
> >   I just noticed something strange on one of my cats.
> > Along the top ridge of her mouth, on the outside, in the fur, but right
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Sounds like cat acne. Are you using plastic dishes for her food and water?

I agree. Sounds like "kitty acne." You can use hydrogen peroxide on a
cotton ball to clean the area every other day or so. And it's not just
plastic that can cause a problem--my Tucker gets acne from stainless
steel bowls too. I only use ceramic, washed every day.

Rene
MaryL - 29 Sep 2004 09:09 GMT
>   I just noticed something strange on one of my cats.
> Along the top ridge of her mouth, on the outside, in the fur, but right next
> to her "lips" there are dozens of tiny black specs.. they look almost like
> blackheads.
> Any ideas of what they are, or if anything needs to be done?

If you are using plastic bowls, change to ceramic or stainless steel (and
wash them often).  As Mary said, plastic causes acne in many cats.

MaryL
kaeli - 29 Sep 2004 16:20 GMT
>   I just noticed something strange on one of my cats.
> Along the top ridge of her mouth, on the outside, in the fur, but right next
> to her "lips" there are dozens of tiny black specs.. they look almost like
> blackheads.
> Any ideas of what they are, or if anything needs to be done?

It could be acne or allergies, as was said, but it could also just be
harmless "kitty freckles", especially if your cat is orange/red tabby.
It could also be flea dirt, especially if kitty goes outside.

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Priscilla H Ballou - 29 Sep 2004 18:57 GMT
Angela St.Aubin <bodah@sympatico.ca> quoth:

>  I just noticed something strange on one of my cats.
>Along the top ridge of her mouth, on the outside, in the fur, but right next
>to her "lips" there are dozens of tiny black specs.. they look almost like
>blackheads.
>Any ideas of what they are, or if anything needs to be done?

Kitty acne.  I'll bet she's eating out of plastic dishes.  If so, switch
to china or metal.

Priscilla
Camilla Cracchiolo - 01 Oct 2004 09:14 GMT
I dunno:  I'm going to be conservative and say have a vet look
at it.  

I once had a white kitten who developed black "stuff" near his
mouth...it looked like he had been digging in dirt.  He died and then
all the other cats in the house got it.  My mom (this was when I was a
kid) took the other cats to the vet and he said it was very serious,
gave them something and they were fine.  Since I was little I don't
know what it was, but knowing what I do now as a nurse, I think maybe
the black stuff was blood: in ulcers, if the person vomits it's
described as looking like coffee grounds and this stuff did look like
that.

>  I just noticed something strange on one of my cats.
>Along the top ridge of her mouth, on the outside, in the fur, but right next
>to her "lips" there are dozens of tiny black specs.. they look almost like
>blackheads.
>Any ideas of what they are, or if anything needs to be done?

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Angela St.Aubin - 02 Oct 2004 16:00 GMT
Thanks for the responses everyone.
Its definitely not fleas, but it may be an allergy to the food/water dishes
(although the other 2 cats don't have it) or acne. It looks just like a
human blackhead, and i bet if i squeezed them, goo would come out, but i am
afraid to hurt her. they don't seem to cause any pain or discomfort of any
sort.
are they dangerous to her health, or do you think they are hurting her?
Priscilla Ballou - 02 Oct 2004 16:22 GMT
> Thanks for the responses everyone.
> Its definitely not fleas, but it may be an allergy to the food/water dishes
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> sort.
> are they dangerous to her health, or do you think they are hurting her?

The other possibility is what happened with a friend's cat.  We thought
he had feline acne, but it turns out it was folliculitis or some such.  
He gets infected hair follicles a lot.  When it got worse my friend
thought her second cat was biting the first cat on the neck but it was
more folliculitis, just much worse.  I think the vet gave her cream and
pills for him, but I don't remember all the specifics.

Priscilla
Karen Chuplis - 02 Oct 2004 17:14 GMT
>> Thanks for the responses everyone.
>> Its definitely not fleas, but it may be an allergy to the food/water dishes
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Priscilla

Either way, they can become infected and they you would need antibiotics. I
used to wash my cat's chin. I just used a warm wet cloth and mild soap like
Ivory or Nuetrogena. Once in a while one would get out of hand and I admit,
I intervened. But I washed it well. They say white chinned cats are more
prone, but I think it is just more visible.
Angela St.Aubin - 02 Oct 2004 17:46 GMT
> > Thanks for the responses everyone.
> > Its definitely not fleas, but it may be an allergy to the food/water dishes
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Priscilla

But if that was it, wouldn't it be all over her body?
Priscilla Ballou - 02 Oct 2004 20:09 GMT
> > > Thanks for the responses everyone.
> > > Its definitely not fleas, but it may be an allergy to the food/water
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> But if that was it, wouldn't it be all over her body?

Nope.  It wasn't with Spencer.  There's probably something that
aggravates the follicles to cause them to become infected, and that
aggravation may (probably will) be localized.

Priscilla
Angela St.Aubin - 03 Oct 2004 22:50 GMT
Im not sure what exact type of bowls to use. What is ceramic exactly? would
normal bowls, like kitchen soup/cereal bowls be ok? they are made of corell
or whatever, not ceramic i think.
Thomas Cuny - 04 Oct 2004 05:14 GMT
> Im not sure what exact type of bowls to use. What is ceramic
> exactly? would normal bowls, like kitchen soup/cereal bowls be ok?
> they are made of corell or whatever, not ceramic i think.
Corell is glass. It is hard to be allergic to glass since glass
is chemically stable except in very strong acids.
Angela St.Aubin - 04 Oct 2004 12:39 GMT
> > Im not sure what exact type of bowls to use. What is ceramic
> > exactly? would normal bowls, like kitchen soup/cereal bowls be ok?
> > they are made of corell or whatever, not ceramic i think.
> Corell is glass. It is hard to be allergic to glass since glass
> is chemically stable except in very strong acids.

Great, thanks a lot!
rachel polanskis - 03 Oct 2004 14:05 GMT
> Thanks for the responses everyone.
> Its definitely not fleas, but it may be an allergy to the food/water dishes
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> sort.
> are they dangerous to her health, or do you think they are hurting her?

It sounds like acne.  Cleo Carrington Smith used to get this until
we swapped her plastic food bowls for stainless steel ones.

rachel
 
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