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Amitryptilline has changed our lives!

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J1Boss - 28 Sep 2004 12:59 GMT
OMG - I have my house back again, and I can sleep through the night (ok, other
things do keep me awake sometimes!).

Carey has been off phenobarbital and prednisone for a few weeks, and has been
on amitryptilline for about 10 days.  We have had no more nighttime (and random
other times) vocalizations, and no peeing all over the place!  I don't know how
to handle not washing things on a daily basis!  We wasted a lot of time with
the neurologist, and the meds had just made things worse as far as the
urination went.  Glad I saw my regular vet when the situation was becoming
unbearable, and we've ditched the neuro vet.

She's still got her OCD sucking and mounting behavior on the dogs, but we can
live with that!    Diagnosis is still "weird little cat", but I love her to
pieces.

Janet Boss
http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/
http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience
Gail - 28 Sep 2004 13:21 GMT
Great news!!
Gail
> OMG - I have my house back again, and I can sleep through the night (ok,
> other
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> http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/
> http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience
Mary - 28 Sep 2004 19:29 GMT
> OMG - I have my house back again, and I can sleep through the night (ok,
other things do keep me awake sometimes!).

> Carey has been off phenobarbital and prednisone for a few weeks, and has
been on amitryptilline for about 10 days.  We have had no more nighttime
(and random
> other times) vocalizations, and no peeing all over the place!

Wonderful to hear. Do you know how this drug works? Just curious.
Ashley - 28 Sep 2004 21:47 GMT
>> OMG - I have my house back again, and I can sleep through the night (ok,
> other things do keep me awake sometimes!).
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>
> Wonderful to hear. Do you know how this drug works? Just curious.

Amitryptiline is a tricyclic anitdepressant. In humans, as well as treating
depression very low doses are used to treat chronic pain. Sounds like, in
this case, it's being used to treat depression!
J1Boss - 28 Sep 2004 22:26 GMT
> Sounds like, in
>this case, it's being used to treat depression!

or at least mood swings!  She's a pretty lively and happy little cat, but she
is definitely a little off her rocker and always has been.  The peeing
everywhere and all of the time was getting to be a very stressful way to live.
I think I can safely say that we are all (2 dogs, 2 cats, 2 humans) much
happier now!

Janet Boss
http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/
http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience
Mary - 28 Sep 2004 22:50 GMT
> > Sounds like, in
> >this case, it's being used to treat depression!
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>
>Janet, how much is she taking?
J1Boss - 28 Sep 2004 22:59 GMT
>>Janet, how much is she taking?

1/2 pill - let me see how much that is......

they're 10 mg tablets, so 5mg - once a day.  She loves taking pills, so I'm
almost grateful to be giving her something - I thought I was going to have to
find a placebo.

Janet Boss
http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/
http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience
Ashley - 28 Sep 2004 23:19 GMT
>>>Janet, how much is she taking?
>
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> to
> find a placebo.

Wow, that must be quite a dose for a cat. I was taking 10mg a day for 9
months for chronic pain, and I suspect I'm quite a bit bigger than your cat
;-) Interesting that she loves taking them - you obviously have quite a
character there!
Mary - 28 Sep 2004 23:51 GMT
> >>>Janet, how much is she taking?
> >
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> ;-) Interesting that she loves taking them - you obviously have quite a
> character there!

Hey, have we seen pics of this little weirdo?! :)
Mary - 28 Sep 2004 23:54 GMT
> Hey, have we seen pics of this little weirdo?! :)

Never mind, I found them there in your sig! She's a
cute little tortie with a wild look in her eye!

Skipjack is alarmingly beauiful.
J1Boss - 29 Sep 2004 13:03 GMT
Mary wrote:>
>Never mind, I found them there in your sig! She's a
>cute little tortie with a wild look in her eye!

That would be her!  She's a very funny little cat.

>Skipjack is alarmingly beauiful.

Isn't he though?  And you should feel him - he's the softest cat and incredibly
snuggly.  He's just 3 now.  I love his coloration - he definitely stole my
heart.  I was giving someone a tour of the shelter and took him out to say
hello.  He sniffed the edges of my glasses, and curled up in my arms.  I
carried him around for a few hours!  How could I not bring him home after that?

Janet Boss
http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/
http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience
Mary - 29 Sep 2004 15:42 GMT
> Mary wrote:>
> >Never mind, I found them there in your sig! She's a
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>
> Isn't he though?  And you should feel him - he's the softest cat and
incredibly snuggly.

It seems like gray cats often have the softest fur, at least in my
experience. To this day I have never felt a cat with softer fur than my
Gnarly had. (And, aside from having a pulse, it was her chief virtue, so it
was a good thing! lol!)

>He's just 3 now.  I love his coloration - he definitely stole >my heart.

While he is much more beautiful, my Cheeks has just a little of the same
sort of gray and white thing going on in her face, but without the pretty
white boots. See her here:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/crazyaboutfelines/detail?.dir=9d3a&.dnm=e5ea.jpg

>I was giving someone a tour of the shelter and took him >out to say hello.
He sniffed the edges of my glasses, and >curled up in my arms.  I carried
him around for a few >hours!  How could I not bring him home after that?

Lucky you, lucky him. Cheeks was in a room full of lovely
cats but captured me from across the room with the look in her eye. Then she
tilted her head and leaned into my hand, and I saw that long, long tail and
sleek little weasely build and I was a goner. :) She carries that long
skinny tail like the mast of a tallship, always. It's hilarious when she
zips by with that thing pointing heavenward and says "mrrrrrp!" Don't ever
tell me she looks and acts like 100 million other cats because I will never
believe you. <G
J1Boss - 29 Sep 2004 15:48 GMT
>my Cheeks has just a little of the same
>sort of gray and white thing going on in her face, but without the pretty
>white boots. See her here:
>
>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/crazyaboutfelines/detail?.dir=9d3a&.dnm=e5ea.jpg

She's lovely!  She looks very sweet as well.
> Don't ever
>tell me she looks and acts like 100 million other cats because I will never
>believe you. <G>

LOL - I'd never say such a thing! ;-D  They are all unique - some more than
others.......

Janet Boss
http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/
http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience
Mary - 29 Sep 2004 16:17 GMT
> >my Cheeks has just a little of the same
> >sort of gray and white thing going on in her face, but without the pretty
white boots. See her here:

>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/crazyaboutfelines/detail?.dir=9d3a&.dnm=e5ea.jpg
>
> She's lovely!  She looks very sweet as well.

Thank you. She is my pride and joy. Sickly little scaredy cat, maybe so, but
every morning she comes up to the back of my head (I sleep on my side) and
begins a series of little meows as she walks all the way down to my feet and
around--asking permission, or "Are you awake yet?" then pauses at my face
and peers at me until I open my arms and invite her to stretch out beside me
for a scritch and pet. Then this little 7 lb wonder stretches out beside me
to about 6'3" and I rub her little spotted belly. :) She goes totally limp,
I call it the boneless cat. Hilarious.

> > Don't ever
> >tell me she looks and acts like 100 million other cats because I will never
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> http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/
> http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience
Ashley - 29 Sep 2004 20:23 GMT
> While he is much more beautiful, my Cheeks has just a little of the same
> sort of gray and white thing going on in her face, but without the pretty
> white boots. See her here:

Whereas my Cassius is very similar but with the white extending up over his
nose (hence a pink nose), white boots and a white tip to his tail. Several
people have commented on how "pretty" he is,and I've been heard to say he's
so pretty he should be a girl :-). He's got slightly longer hair, a tendency
to like his food a little too much, and is coming up to 10.
Mary - 29 Sep 2004 21:30 GMT
> > While he is much more beautiful, my Cheeks has just a little of the same
sort of gray and white thing going on in her face, but without the pretty
white boots. See her here:

> Whereas my Cassius is very similar but with the white extending up over
his  nose (hence a pink nose), white boots and a white tip to his tail.
Several  people have commented on how "pretty" he is,and I've been heard to
say he's so pretty he should be a girl :-). He's got slightly longer hair, a
tendency  to like his food a little too much, and is coming up to 10.

Well, I would say this calls for a pic. Eh? :)
Ashley - 29 Sep 2004 21:54 GMT
> Well, I would say this calls for a pic. Eh? :)

I'd have to figure out how to use my scanner first. You may be waiting a
while! ;-)
Mary - 29 Sep 2004 21:57 GMT
> > Well, I would say this calls for a pic. Eh? :)
>
> I'd have to figure out how to use my scanner first. You may be waiting a
> while! ;-)

Ebay has decent digital cameras for, like, $250. 5 Megapixel ones.
Check it out!
Ashley - 30 Sep 2004 10:15 GMT
> Ebay has decent digital cameras for, like, $250. 5 Megapixel ones.
> Check it out!

Not on my list of priorities at the mo, sorry
Mary - 30 Sep 2004 17:59 GMT
> > Ebay has decent digital cameras for, like, $250. 5 Megapixel ones.
> > Check it out!
>
> Not on my list of priorities at the mo, sorry

Oops, sorry. Best of luck with the scanner, they're
very simple to use.
J1Boss - 29 Sep 2004 00:02 GMT
>Hey, have we seen pics of this little weirdo?! :)

There should be a few shots of her in my link to yahoo photos.  I need to get
more (and better!) ones up there.

Janet Boss
http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/
http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience
J1Boss - 29 Sep 2004 00:02 GMT
>I suspect I'm quite a bit bigger than your cat
>;-)

Since she weighs about 6.5#, I'd say so!  Animals metabolize meds very
differently than we do though.

Interesting that she loves taking them - you obviously have quite a
>character there!

That she is - couldn't love her more!

Janet Boss
http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/
http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience
Mary - 28 Sep 2004 23:49 GMT
> >>Janet, how much is she taking?
>
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> almost grateful to be giving her something - I thought I was going to have to
> find a placebo.

Thanks. I want to ask my vet about whether or not this might help Cheeks
stop overgrooming. She has a growing bald spot with no apparent medical
cause. It started when Buddha started hanging out in her territory; I
thought it had stopped, but noticed that the spot has grown.
Mary - 28 Sep 2004 23:50 GMT
She loves taking pills, so I'm
> almost grateful to be giving her something - I thought I was going to have
to find a placebo.

By Jove that is a weird little cat you have!
C P - 28 Sep 2004 22:48 GMT
I don't know your backstory, and forgive me for top-posting, but this sounds
like it's GREAT news!! I want to ask, if I may, what was the original
behavior you were treating for with Pheno? We've got one or two cats who are
also peeing all over the house, and have clean bills of health - we're
trying many things to stop it, but so far no dice. Washing things often is
routine here, and losing important things happens, too. My Birkenstocks &
husband's Leather Ecco's, to name the latest.

If you don't want to post the answer here (duplication?), please feel free
to email me at thinggtwoo at gmail dot com.

Thank you!!
Cori

> OMG - I have my house back again, and I can sleep through the night (ok, other
> things do keep me awake sometimes!).
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> http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/
> http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience
J1Boss - 28 Sep 2004 23:02 GMT
>From: "C P" thinggtwoo@comcast.net

>I don't know your backstory, and forgive me for top-posting, but this sounds
>like it's GREAT news!! I want to ask, if I may, what was the original
>behavior you were treating for with Pheno?

A once suspected brain tumor and "seizure type" episodes.  In retrospect and
after trying a few other things, it's unlikely the diagnosis was right at all.

We've got one or two cats who are
>also peeing all over the house, and have clean bills of health - we're
>trying many things to stop it, but so far no dice. Washing things often is
>routine here, and losing important things happens, too. My Birkenstocks &
>husband's Leather Ecco's, to name the latest.

Yeah - I had several pair of shoes ruined, and I leave shoes everywhere and
have for the entire time I've had her (11 years).  She just did that starting
this spring.

>If you don't want to post the answer here (duplication?), please feel free
>to email me at thinggtwoo at gmail dot com.

If you look in dejanews.com, and search for the word Carey in this newsgroup,
you can probably find backstory.  That and "unearthly vocalizations".  Boy is
it nice to not hear those at 3 a.m. anymore!

Janet Boss
http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/
http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience
 
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