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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / July 2005mounting behavior?
OK, some of you have read the saga of my little whacko cat Carey, who I really do adore, strange behaviors and all. She has weaned off the phenobarbital and her vocalizations have improved dramatically. Unfortunately, she is back to attacking the dogs over noises, but they take it in stride. She is now weaning off the prednisone, and has a week of every other day to go. Her urine output has decreased thank goodness, although she has still had some inappropriate elimination. She will go on amitryptilline after she's off the pred. She has an OCD which is sucking on and chewing on one of the dogs (which dog has varied over her 11 years). The other day, I noticed that instead of just climbing on the dog of choice and straddling him while she sucked and chewed on his neck, she was actually thrusting. Thank goodness for really tolerant dogs, but she just gets weirder and weirder all of the time. Has anyone encountered this? Meanwhile, she and her feline brother Skipjack play and wrestle and chase each other, she snuggles and interacts and is affectionate as ever and she's still eating like a horse even though she's underweight. other than pushing her off the dog(s) when her behavior gets annoying, any thoughts? Janet Boss http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience J1Boss <j1boss@aol.com> quoth: >OK, some of you have read the saga of my little whacko cat Carey, who I really >do adore, strange behaviors and all. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >other than pushing her off the dog(s) when her behavior gets annoying, any >thoughts? Just that she sounds like a darling oddball. Being an oddball myself, I can relate. ;-) Enjoy her wierditude, because it won't always be with you. Priscilla >Enjoy her wierditude, because it won't always be with >you. > >Priscilla I remind myself of this every day. I truly love her to pieces (trust me, her weirdness just wouldn't be tolerable otherwise), and she seems so happy, that well..... she gets to continue being weird while we try to conquer the pee thing. Janet Boss http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience J1Boss <j1boss@aol.com> quoth: >>Enjoy her wierditude, because it won't always be with >>you. >I remind myself of this every day. I truly love her to pieces (trust me, her >weirdness just wouldn't be tolerable otherwise), and she seems so happy, that >well..... she gets to continue being weird while we try to conquer the pee >thing. Yup. Love. Powerful stuff. Priscilla > >Enjoy her wierditude, because it won't always be with > >you. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > well..... she gets to continue being weird while we try to conquer the pee > thing. I am so curious about how she learned this behavior being a female. From the dogs? Or how do you think? > > >Enjoy her wierditude, because it won't always be with > > >you. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I am so curious about how she learned this behavior > being a female. From the dogs? Or how do you think? Maybe s/he's actually intersexed? Priscilla > > > >Enjoy her wierditude, because it won't always be with > > > >you. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Maybe s/he's actually intersexed? You mean like a boy in a girl's body? > > > > >Enjoy her wierditude, because it won't always be with > > > > >you. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > You mean like a boy in a girl's body? Or both. Priscilla >> You mean like a boy in a girl's body? > >Or both. > >Priscilla female beings do exhibit mounting behavior. I don't think she's transgendered! OTOH, we have a former male at the shelter I work with, who had to have a sex change operation. Pretty orange cat - I don't think he cares a whole lot! Janet Boss http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience > >> You mean like a boy in a girl's body? > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to have a sex change operation. Pretty orange cat - I don't think he cares a > whole lot! Whoa! Why did he have to have a sex change? Was he a hermaphrodite? > > >> You mean like a boy in a girl's body? > > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Whoa! Why did he have to have a sex change? Was he a > hermaphrodite? I had a cat who had his penis removed and opened up into a more female-like urethra, but that wasn't a sex change operation. He'd been neutered many years previously, but he was de-sexed not switched. Priscilla >I had a cat who had his penis removed and opened up into a more >female-like urethra, but that wasn't a sex change operation. He'd been >neutered many years previously, but he was de-sexed not switched. > >Priscilla actually, i think that's closer to what happened - I didn't ask details. He had come in severely matted as well, and had to be shaved down. His coat is coming back (he's been there too long!) and he's very pretty and a nice guy. Janet Boss http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience J1Boss <j1boss@aol.com> quoth: >>I had a cat who had his penis removed and opened up into a more >>female-like urethra, but that wasn't a sex change operation. He'd been >>neutered many years previously, but he was de-sexed not switched. >> >>Priscilla >actually, i think that's closer to what happened - I didn't ask details. He >had come in severely matted as well, and had to be shaved down. His coat is >coming back (he's been there too long!) and he's very pretty and a nice guy. >Janet Boss >http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ >http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience  SignatureBarack Obama in 2012 -- Let's put brains back in the White House! > > female beings do exhibit mounting behavior. I don't think she's > > transgendered! OTOH, we have a former male at the shelter I work with, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Whoa! Why did he have to have a sex change? Was he a > hermaphrodite? Males who get chronic blockages in their urethra can have an operation that basically removes the penis and makes their anatomy more female. Shorter, wider urethra makes it much easier to pass tiny stones. Just a thought. Signature-- ~kaeli~ Practice safe eating - always use condiments. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > > Whoa! Why did he have to have a sex change? Was he a hermaphrodite? > > Males who get chronic blockages in their urethra can have an operation that basically removes the penis and makes their anatomy more female. Shorter, wider urethra makes it much easier to pass tiny stones. > Just a thought. Ah, I see. I had no idea. > > > Whoa! Why did he have to have a sex change? Was he a hermaphrodite? > > Males who get chronic blockages in their urethra can have an operation [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Ah, I see. I had no idea. I didn't, either, until I lost my boy Julian a couple years ago b/c of a blockage. I felt very guilty, like it was my fault (I still feel that way more than a little; he was only 4), so I did a lot of searching about how such things happen, how I can prevent it from happening to future cats, and so on. Signature-- ~kaeli~ Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets? http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > >> You mean like a boy in a girl's body? > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > to have a sex change operation. Pretty orange cat - I don't think he cares a > whole lot! Mounting, yes, but thrusting? Priscilla >Mounting, yes, but thrusting? > >Priscilla Most mounting behavior involves thrusting, IME. Janet Boss http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience > >Mounting, yes, but thrusting? > > > >Priscilla > > Most mounting behavior involves thrusting, IME. Otherwise what would be the point, right? ;) Mary <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> quoth: >> >Mounting, yes, but thrusting? >> Most mounting behavior involves thrusting, IME. >> >Otherwise what would be the point, right? ;) Dominance. That's what mounting behavior is about among neutered cats. Priscilla > Mary <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> quoth: > >> >Mounting, yes, but thrusting? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Priscilla Ahhh, I get it. J1Boss <j1boss@aol.com> quoth: >>Mounting, yes, but thrusting? >> >>Priscilla >Most mounting behavior involves thrusting, IME. Huh. My (neutered) males mount but I've never seen them thrust. Priscilla >Huh. My (neutered) males mount but I've never seen them thrust. > >Priscilla huh. I have to admit, none of my other cats have ever done either! As I said, Carey is "unique"! ;-D Janet Boss http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience > J1Boss <j1boss@aol.com> quoth: > >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Priscilla I just want to mention that this discussion is making me glad I have girly cats who do not mount at all, thrustful or thrustless. :) > > > > > >Enjoy her wierditude, because it won't always be with > > > > > >you. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Priscilla I never thought about other animals (than humans)\ having this. This group is just so enlightening! > > > > > > >Enjoy her wierditude, because it won't always be with > > > > > > >you. [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > I never thought about other animals (than humans)\ > having this. This group is just so enlightening! Well, sure. Why not? Priscilla >I am so curious about how she learned this behavior >being a female. From the dogs? Or how do you think? Wish I knew! Doubt it's from the dogs. She's lived with several of them, and none have ever mounted her of course. If they mount each other in play, it's been outside. It's pretty bizarre over all. She's always done the sucking thing, from the moment I brought her home - ingested too much Golden Retriever fur and had to be opened up. She actually stopped for 5 years until the death of my other dog and then started that very night and has continued ever since (that was almost 6 years ago). She does not engage in this with my other cat, nor the other cat before him. Janet Boss http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience > >I am so curious about how she learned this behavior > >being a female. From the dogs? Or how do you think? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > (that was almost 6 years ago). She does not engage in this with my other cat, > nor the other cat before him. She's a mystery wrapped in an enigma and dipped in weirdness! :-) I'm glad she has you. I wonder about her early life. >She's a mystery wrapped in an enigma and dipped in weirdness! :-) >I'm glad she has you. I wonder about her early life. LOL - she's unique! I got her at 8 weeks. She was born to a stray cat one of the vet techs at my vet had taken in. She was born 2 days after the rest of her litter. I had lost a cat to cardiomyopathy a few months before, and the vet tech was convinced I needed a replacement (and my other cat agreed!). So, I brought this little bundle of wiry tortie weirdness home, and well...... at least she has a sweet little voice when she's yelling for us. Janet Boss http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience > >She's a mystery wrapped in an enigma and dipped in weirdness! :-) > >I'm glad she has you. I wonder about her early life. > > LOL - she's unique! I got her at 8 weeks. She was born to a stray cat one of > the vet techs at my vet had taken in. She was born 2 days after the rest of > her litter. Wow! Now we have something to work with. She was in there, listening to the other kitties dining on mother's milk, maybe? Feeling left out in such a big way could make the toughest kitty neurotic! Did the mother cat have any negative repercussions from this delayed birth? How about you kitty? > I had lost a cat to cardiomyopathy a few months before, and the > vet tech was convinced I needed a replacement (and my other cat agreed!). So, > I brought this little bundle of wiry tortie weirdness home, and well...... at > least she has a sweet little voice when she's yelling for us. She sounds like my kind of cat. :) >Wow! Now we have something to work with. She was in there, listening to >the other kitties dining on mother's milk, maybe? OK - it's a theory! ;-D >Did the mother cat >have any negative repercussions from this delayed birth? How about you >kitty? Well, we always suspect a lot of Carey's weirdness is due to this, but physically, she's basically been a pretty healthy cat over the years (she turned 11 in July). I don't believe the mother had any problems. >She sounds like my kind of cat. :) My MIL claims she doesn't like cats, but she got sucked in by this little creature many years ago. Carey has slept with babies, snuggled with dogs and cats, and stomped (ok, she's just walking a lot, but we call it stomping) on many a head, chest, etc. She's adorable and sweet - I just wish I could figure out what makes her tick. Janet Boss http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience > Well, we always suspect a lot of Carey's weirdness is due to this, but > physically, she's basically been a pretty healthy cat over the years (she > turned 11 in July). I don't believe the mother had any problems. > >She sounds like my kind of cat. :) I wonder why she was so late to be born? Perhaps she could have been affected by her mothers surging hormones or perhaps suffered from some slight brain damage. She would also be behind in developement and in competiton with other kittens that were two days older. Alison > Wow! Now we have something to work with. She was in there, listening to > the other kitties dining on mother's milk, maybe? Feeling left out in such > a big way could make the toughest kitty neurotic! Did the mother cat > have any negative repercussions from this delayed birth? How about you > kitty? Kittens hearing isn't developed until a while after they are born so she wouldn't be able to hear the other kittens; though she could have felt their movement. Alison > > Wow! Now we have something to work with. She was in there, listening > to [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > have felt their movement. > Alison It was a joke. >> Wow! Now we have something to work with. She was in there, listening to > the other kitties dining on mother's milk, maybe? Feeling left out in such > a big way could make the toughest kitty neurotic! Did the mother cat > have any negative repercussions from this delayed birth? How about you > kitty? >> Kittens hearing isn't developed until a while after they are born so she wouldn't be able to hear the other kittens; though she could have felt their movement. Alison>>> Mary wrote > It was a joke.>> I don't know about a joke but it was certainly ludicrous-:) Alison > >I am so curious about how she learned this behavior > >being a female. From the dogs? Or how do you think? > > Wish I knew! She's been watching Sharon Stones movies and found out it's better on top . LOL Alison > > >I am so curious about how she learned this behavior > > >being a female. From the dogs? Or how do you think? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > top . LOL > Alison who we talking bout here you? on top? Hey! I'm just a gentle reader If you delete posts, maybe you shouldn't leave fragments hahaha lol, GO ALISON! daaam, just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water |
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