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Cheeky, Boo, and Gnarly: Cats of My House, Cats of My Heart.

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Mary - 07 Sep 2004 07:40 GMT
If I did this right, you can click below and see them.

Cheeks is the extremely polite, very bright and funny asthmatic tabby with
EGC or "linear granuloma." She is the one who conquers the rubber snake and
brings it to me several times a day.

Boo is the tuxedo cat that is severely hyperthyroid and had fainting spells,
but is now on medication and has a heart rate of 160-170 bpm, instead of
300+ bpm. She is getting fatter! (She is also the one with hyperesthesia,
which makes her say "Mow mow mow" and wag her head if you pet her above the
tail.)

Gnarly is my girl, the blue cream tortoiseshell who died at age 20 in 2001.
Softest fur in the world, not very bright, very vocal, and buckets of fun.
All of these cats are adopted strays.

http://photos.yahoo.com/crazyaboutfelines.
PawsForThought - 07 Sep 2004 17:57 GMT
>From: "Mary" rosefan@email.com

>http://photos.yahoo.com/crazyaboutfelines.

Your kitties are gorgeous, Mary :)  They look very happy too!

Lauren
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HD - 07 Sep 2004 18:15 GMT
>If I did this right, you can click below and see them.
>
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>
>http://photos.yahoo.com/crazyaboutfelines.

Nice bunch there!
Mary - 07 Sep 2004 21:18 GMT
"HD" <hpickering@austinNOSPAM.rr.com> wrote> >
> >http://photos.yahoo.com/crazyaboutfelines.
> >
> Nice bunch there!

Thank you. Who would have thought that The Best
Cats in the World would be so common looking? :)
George Thomas - 08 Sep 2004 00:51 GMT
> "HD" <hpickering@austinNOSPAM.rr.com> wrote> >
>
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> Thank you. Who would have thought that The Best
> Cats in the World would be so common looking? :)

I love cats of all kinds and colors; I'm not looking for a Hollywood
star! 'Common' has always worked for me.

:-D

George
Cathy Friedmann - 08 Sep 2004 00:54 GMT
> If I did this right, you can click below and see them.
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> http://photos.yahoo.com/crazyaboutfelines.

I esp. like the "happy cat' one of Gnarly.  Plus, IMO, dilute torties &
calicos are just so very pretty.

Cathy
Mary - 08 Sep 2004 03:55 GMT
> > All of these cats are adopted strays.
> >
> > http://photos.yahoo.com/crazyaboutfelines.
>
> I esp. like the "happy cat' one of Gnarly.  Plus, IMO, dilute torties
&calicos are just so very pretty.

I love that one too! She really doesn't look mean in that one. When I first
saw her I had never seen a dilute tortie and just thought she was the most
exotic thing ever. i'll always miss her.

The ones of Cheeks on the window shelf crack me up because she just decided
to perform for the camera. She does the same thing every cat does when they
wake up. That yawn killed me--I had no idea she had blotches inside her
mouth! After the last stretch, it was down to the food bowl.

Cathy, you take lovely photos of your cat, I esp. like the closeup of
Demelza in abpa. I am just learning how to use my camera--it is a Nikon
4300. When I put the "red eye out" flash feature on, I get those chatreuse
glowing eyes. Do you know how I would set it to have the cats look directly
at me and not have weird eyes? It is the kind with an auto setting, then a
bunch of things like "day at the beach," "indoor party" and then completely
manual settings like f-stop, speed and such. I plan to experiment when I
have time but wondered if you have any tips.
Cathy Friedmann - 08 Sep 2004 21:01 GMT
> > > All of these cats are adopted strays.
> > >
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> Cathy, you take lovely photos of your cat, I esp. like the closeup of
> Demelza in abpa.

Thanks; I like that one, too; it came out nicely detailed.  I used the macro
mode, but also probably managed (for once) to not move the camera at all
when I hit the shutter button, for the crispness to prevail.

I am just learning how to use my camera--it is a Nikon
> 4300. When I put the "red eye out" flash feature on, I get those chatreuse
> glowing eyes. Do you know how I would set it to have the cats look directly
> at me and not have weird eyes? It is the kind with an auto setting, then a
> bunch of things like "day at the beach," "indoor party" and then completely
> manual settings like f-stop, speed and such. I plan to experiment when I
> have time but wondered if you have any tips.

Sorry, but unfortunately, no, I don't.  I'm new to digital cameras - didn't
finally get one till this summer, & even w/ my 35mm SLR film camera, I
relied way more on auto settings than on manual ones.

However, you could probably ask on the alt.binaries.photos.original ng; they
seem to mainly be serious photo hobbyists in that group, & would most likely
know technical pointers.

Cathy
Mary - 08 Sep 2004 23:10 GMT
> > Cathy, you take lovely photos of your cat, I esp. like the closeup of
> > Demelza in abpa.
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>
> Cathy

I had no idea that group existed. Thanks!
Cathy Friedmann - 08 Sep 2004 23:32 GMT
> > However, you could probably ask on the alt.binaries.photos.original ng;
> they
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> >
> I had no idea that group existed. Thanks!

I didn't either, till it was mentioned on another binaries group I subscribe
to; you're welcome.

Cathy
Steve G - 09 Sep 2004 01:35 GMT
(...)
> Demelza in abpa. I am just learning how to use my camera--it is a Nikon
> 4300. When I put the "red eye out" flash feature on, I get those chatreuse
> glowing eyes. Do you know how I would set it to have the cats look directly
> at me and not have weird eyes?

Basically, you can't reliably - at least with the onboard flash of a
P&S camera. You can:

i) Get an external flash (if available) - bouncing the flash off a
nearby wall will reduce redeye.
ii) Avoid using flash by either increasing the ISO value of your shots
(with increased noise, alas), or using a slower shutter speed (with a
risk of blurry pix).
iii) Remove the redeye in software.
iv) Somehow pursuade the cat to look at the camera at the critical
point when redeye reduction is in effect (ha! Good luck!).

My inability to get non-redeye cat pix with my P&S camera was one
reason I upgraded to something better than said P&S.

Steve.
Cathy Friedmann - 09 Sep 2004 01:42 GMT
> (...)
> > Demelza in abpa. I am just learning how to use my camera--it is a Nikon
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> My inability to get non-redeye cat pix with my P&S camera was one
> reason I upgraded to something better than said P&S.

But... the digital P&S I bought (Canon PowerShot S410, after reading a slew
of reviews for 2 weeks) was *already* pricey, IMO.  Something better?
Ackkk!  (price)

Cathy

> Steve.
Mary - 09 Sep 2004 02:04 GMT
> But... the digital P&S I bought (Canon PowerShot S410, after reading a slew
> of reviews for 2 weeks) was *already* pricey, IMO.  Something better?
> Ackkk!  (price)

The Canon was my first choice until someone pointed out how user-friendly
the Nikon  Coolpix is--it is relatively large and has a good weight in the
hands--
doesn't make me feel I am all thumbs like tiny cameras do. It also has very
logical
controls. I don't mean compared with the Canon as I have never actually held
one.
But I do mean that whoever said this about the Coolpix was right. Before I
saw those
comments I had not thought about how important comfort in the hand and ease
in
use really is. In cameras and vacuume cleaners!
Cathy Friedmann - 09 Sep 2004 02:40 GMT
> > But... the digital P&S I bought (Canon PowerShot S410, after reading a
> slew
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> in
> use really is. In cameras and vacuume cleaners!

Vacuum cleaners.  O-kay... ;-P

Whereas I wanted the camera to be as small & lightweight as possible (IOW
pocket friendly), yet have other features I was looking for - along w/ good
ratings.  So some of our criteria were different.

Cathy
Mary - 09 Sep 2004 04:10 GMT
> > use really is. In cameras and vacuume cleaners!
>
> Vacuum cleaners.  O-kay... ;-P

Plllbt! Whenever I am online this much it means a
twelve hour day at work. I'm tired.

> Whereas I wanted the camera to be as small & lightweight as possible
(IOWpocket friendly), yet have other features I was looking for - along w/
good
> ratings.  So some of our criteria were different.

Yep. Meanwhile, I wish I could fix my word wrap.
:-(
Mary - 09 Sep 2004 02:01 GMT
> (...)
> > Demelza in abpa. I am just learning how to use my camera--it is a Nikon
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> i) Get an external flash (if available) - bouncing the flash off a
> nearby wall will reduce redeye.

Like pros use. Hmm. Too much trouble, but good to know.

> ii) Avoid using flash by either increasing the ISO value of your shots
> (with increased noise, alas), or using a slower shutter speed (with a
> risk of blurry pix).

This is useful.

> iii) Remove the redeye in software.

This too, thanks.

> iv) Somehow pursuade the cat to look at the camera at the critical
> point when redeye reduction is in effect (ha! Good luck!).
>
> My inability to get non-redeye cat pix with my P&S camera was one
> reason I upgraded to something better than said P&S.

Do you mean a camera with no automatic setting when you say
"better than a point and shoot?" I was impressed that the Nikon
Coolpix 4300 would allow me to set the shutter speed and ISO.
Do I have to spend 3K for non P&S? I waited years for the kind
I have to go down from $800 to $200. And then waited for a sale.
Steve G - 09 Sep 2004 17:16 GMT
(...)

> > iii) Remove the redeye in software.

It's tedious, though some packages have auto-redeye removal that can
be OK.

(...)

> Do you mean a camera with no automatic setting when you say
> "better than a point and shoot?"

No; something better able to work in relatively low-light conditions
without a flash - basically a dSLR is the other choice at this point
in time.

> I was impressed that the Nikon
> Coolpix 4300 would allow me to set the shutter speed and ISO.

You will probably find that ISO400 pix are too noisy to be of much
use, though there does exist noise removal software (e.g., Neatimage).

> Do I have to spend 3K for non P&S?

No. You can get a new dSLR for c.$700 and this price is bound to drop
some more. Not really worth buying if you're only interested in taking
occasional potshots at the cats though. Plus a SLR is much more bulky
and awkward than a P&S.

Steve.
MacCandace - 08 Sep 2004 04:55 GMT
Very cute kitties.  Boo has a "messy" face.  One of my friends always referred
to my late cat, Cory, as having a messy face...when there are lots of
assymetrical markings on it.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Mary - 08 Sep 2004 05:06 GMT
> Very cute kitties.  Boo has a "messy" face.  One of my friends always
referred  to my late cat, Cory, as having a messy face...when there are lots
of assymetrical markings on it.

Thank you. Boo (aka Buddha since she got the big belly) does have a messy
face, and little black spots on her boots that really look like dirt. She is
a purr monster!

> Candace
> (take the litter out before replying by e-mail)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
> than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Sherry - 08 Sep 2004 05:22 GMT
>Very cute kitties.  Boo has a "messy" face.  One of my friends always
>referred
>to my late cat, Cory, as having a messy face...when there are lots of
>assymetrical markings on it.
>
>Candace

I love tuxedos. Especially unusual ones like Boo & Cory. My Bootsie has a solid
black face, but a white chin. It gives her a very petulant expression.
Mary - 08 Sep 2004 08:25 GMT
> >Very cute kitties.  Boo has a "messy" face.  One of my friends always
> >referred
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I love tuxedos. Especially unusual ones like Boo & Cory. My Bootsie has a solid
> black face, but a white chin. It gives her a very petulant expression.

Bootsie and Cory sound beautiful. I am trying to catch Boo when she is
spread
out on her back so everyone can see her bikini. :) She is pretty much
symmetrical
everywhere but her face. The fur is growing in from the ultrasound of
her heart. But her bikini bottoms are still falling down due to her big
belly.
We are supposed towait until her heart rate is stable for some months before
we tackle
the overweight issue. What is most beautiful about Boo--even though she is a
thoughtful cat--and very laid back and circumspect--all you have to do is
touch her and she will purr within 10 seconds. She loves people. All
people, it seems.
MacCandace - 09 Sep 2004 04:47 GMT
<< I love tuxedos. Especially unusual ones like Boo & Cory. My Bootsie has a
solid
black face, but a white chin. It gives her a very petulant expression. >>

My new terror, Marbles, is also a tux with a messy face.  Kind of a lightning
strike looking mark down his face.  I should post a pic of him to my yahoo
thing but, if I recall, last time I tried it was a pain.  For some reason, some
of the ones I tried to upload didn't work, it kept saying they were the "wrong
size," even though they were the same size as the ones that I was able to
upload.  Maybe I'll try to figure it out this weekend.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Sherry - 09 Sep 2004 05:22 GMT
>My new terror, Marbles, is also a tux with a messy face.  Kind of a lightning
>strike looking mark down his face.  I should post a pic of him to my yahoo
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>
>Candace

Oh, that sounds cute. Like a blaze face? E-mail me the pic! Just take "kitty"
out of my address. I guess while we're all bragging, I'll pull out the 6-foot
accordian photo holder of my cats:

Yoda. My senior citizen cat. You can see Biskit up by the house.
http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/yobiskit.jpg
Frank. Someone told me this pic looks like a bonsai cat that's been repotted
outside.
http://members.aol.com/gladyss5/frankgarden.jpg
Biskit. She's a dumped cat I kept. She likes to sit in the open window, and
hang her head out.
http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/biskitwindow.jpg
Bootygirl. She's DH's cat. I guess all the close-up pics of her are still on
the old computer. This is the only two I could find but you can't see her very
well.  We *did* take the birdhouse down, immediately :) She's a real daddy's
girl.
http://members.aol.com/sriddles/bootytree.jpg
http://members.aol.com/sriddles/lpainting.jpg

Sherry
Mary - 09 Sep 2004 18:06 GMT
> Yoda. My senior citizen cat. You can see Biskit up by the house.
> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/yobiskit.jpg

I love this buff, not red color! Very creamy and pretty.

> Frank. Someone told me this pic looks like a bonsai cat that's been
repotted outside.

> http://members.aol.com/gladyss5/frankgarden.jpg

Frank has the coloring I would love to have if I get to
adopt another cat. I love that Siamese coloring--the blue eyes, the
chocolate and cafe au  lait and cream, so pretty.

> Biskit. She's a dumped cat I kept. She likes to sit in the open window, and
> hang her head out.
> http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/biskitwindow.jpg
> Bootygirl. She's DH's cat. I guess all the close-up pics of her are still
on the old computer. This is the only two I could find but you can't see her
very well.  We *did* take the birdhouse down, immediately :) She's a real
daddy's
> girl.

I love the story in the other group about her chewing the
computer cord in half and your husband's response. I wish I had a man like
that. Mine is a cat lover but the electronics are off limits!
Mary - 09 Sep 2004 18:02 GMT
> << I love tuxedos. Especially unusual ones like Boo & Cory. My Bootsie has a
> solid
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> strike looking mark down his face.  I should post a pic of him to my yahoo
> thing but, if I recall, last time I tried it was a pain.

Oh, please do! I want to see.
Cathy Friedmann - 09 Sep 2004 21:35 GMT
> << I love tuxedos. Especially unusual ones like Boo & Cory. My Bootsie has a
> solid
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> size," even though they were the same size as the ones that I was able to
> upload.  Maybe I'll try to figure it out this weekend.

Or you could post them on alt.binaries.pictures.animals.

Cathy
MacCandace - 10 Sep 2004 05:01 GMT
<< Or you could post them on alt.binaries.pictures.animals.

Cathy >>

I don't think I can, I'm on AOL.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human."  (Loren Eisely)
kaeli - 09 Sep 2004 15:15 GMT
> Gnarly is my girl, the blue cream tortoiseshell who died at age 20 in 2001.
> Softest fur in the world, not very bright, very vocal, and buckets of fun.
> All of these cats are adopted strays.
>
> http://photos.yahoo.com/crazyaboutfelines.

OMG, she looks almost just like my Isis!!  :)
More tan on her face, but very close.
Pretty kitties.

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Mary - 09 Sep 2004 18:45 GMT
> > Gnarly is my girl, the blue cream tortoiseshell who died at age 20 in 2001.
> > Softest fur in the world, not very bright, very vocal, and buckets of fun.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> More tan on her face, but very close.
> Pretty kitties.

Thank you. Gnarly was so beautiful to me. Nature
made her beautiful to look at because she was so
mean and "no-account." :-) But buckets of fun.
I'l put up some more photos of her as I find them.

And the other girls, who are smart and interesting
and beautiful if only because I love them. ;)
 
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