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I'm feeling like a horrible pet owner...

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SummerC - 02 Sep 2004 14:51 GMT
Hi everyone,

My 3 year old fur baby is at the vets right now after having her teeth
de-scaled and an id chip injection.  We got her from an animal rescue place
a year ago and she had the usual medical problems: fleas, ear mites and cat
flu.  But after taking her to the vet after  two weeks of drops and
medication he gave her a clean bill of health.  So for the last year we've
carried on as usual...spoiling and loving our little kitty.  She was in last
week for her yearly injection and the vet (different one from before) was
shocked at the state of her teeth, and so was I.  She had horrendous plaque
build up, angry inflammed gums and a couple brown teeth.  I couldn't believe
it.  So we booked her in to have her teeth done today.

I've just gotten off the phone with the vets and my poor little girl has to
stay for a few more hours.  It turns out they had to remove a couple teeth
because they were rotten!!  I'm feeling so horrible.  I love her to pieces,
but I feel like I have let her down by not taking proper care of her.
Before we got her she had not had a great life.  The shelter told us she had
3 different homes before being dropped off outside their door.  She was thin
and malnourished and relied on the shelter's 5pm feeding schedule (wet
food).  I've had cats before and I have never given them wet food once they
were adults and they've never had teeth problems.  But Cilla was different.
We tried to wean her off of it when we first brought her home but she
refused to eat dry food and would howl if we didn't give her the wet stuff.
My husband and I wanted her to be happy and to begin to feel settled with us
so we have carried on with wet food once a day in addition to dry.  Is this
the reason her teeth have gotten so bad??  Have we done this to her?

As much as we love her, a part of me is feeling like we don't deserve her,
like we should find another home for her.  I almost feel like I have abused
her by not taking care of her like we should have.  I think I just need some
help.  How do we get her off the wet food without making her unhappy?  She
is just like a child to me and I love her desperately.  I just want her to
be happy and feel secure.  Any ideas?

Thanks
Summer
CatNipped - 02 Sep 2004 15:49 GMT
Don't beat yourself up with guilt, you've done perfectly well by this cat.
A lot of cats have to have teeth cleaning and even tooth removal, just as we
humans do.  You don't have to take her off canned food (some say it's
actually better than dry).  What you might want to do is try to start
brushing her teeth.  PetSmart sells pet toothbrushes and meat-flavored
toothpaste for cats.  If she won't allow you to do this, don't fret (mine
would never allow it), just have the vet check her teeth when she gets her
vacs and have them cleaned when needed (my fourteen-year-old only had to
have it done twice, but mine eat Science Diet dry).

Hugs,

CatNipped

> Hi everyone,
>
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> Thanks
> Summer
DG511 - 02 Sep 2004 15:56 GMT
> "SummerC" summer@canada-eh.freeserve.co.uk

writes:

>My 3 year old fur baby is at the vets right now after having her teeth
>de-scaled and an id chip injection.  We got her from an animal rescue place
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>is just like a child to me and I love her desperately.  I just want her to
>be happy and feel secure.  Any ideas?

My main idea is that you're beating yourself up unnecessarily, and it's not
making a lot of sense to me as to why you're so hard on yourself, calling
yourself undeserving and thinking you should find her another home and all
that.  You rescued her and have given her a good life that she almost didn't
have without you.  You've loved her and cared for her.  What more can you do?  

Eight years ago, I got a 1-year-old cat who had been passed around, neglected,
and probably abused.  He's had 3 dentals and several teeth pulled.  It never
occurred to me to blame myself, because my vet said "some pets just have bad
teeth," and I believed her.  None of my other cats have had dental problems,
and I've fed them all the same thing, so that reinforces the idea that this one
cat just has bad teeth.  I think your cat just has bad teeth, not a bad owner.

And wet food is supposed to be better for them than dry, so you're not doing
anything awful.  Keep feeding her the wet food.  Or better yet, talk to your
vet about dental care and see if he has any diet advice.  My vet wants her
people to feed their pets wet food primarily, if not exclusively.

Last night I took a good friend to a pet bereavement group therapy session.
There were people there who'd rescued horribly abused animals, given them
wonderful lives, then had to put them to sleep when they became sick, elderly,
and in pain.  And everyone was second-guessing themselves as to decisions they
made, etc., even though to me (and to the therapist, apparently) it sounded
like everyone did as much as they could.  The therapist said that if we all
made a list of the good things we did for the pets and a list of the bad
decisions we made, the first list would be very very long, and the second list
would be very very short.  And if we made a third list of the things we
knowingly did wrong, it would probably have nothing on it.

Please think about that.  You're a good pet owner.  You've done nothing wrong.
Your cat just has bad teeth.

Daria
Timing Is Everything.
Karen - 02 Sep 2004 16:27 GMT
It *isn't* your fault and you are doing your best. Some cats DO have bad
teeth or gums genetically. As long as you are getting kitty vetted and that
is the most important thing.
Mary - 02 Sep 2004 18:45 GMT
> > "SummerC" summer@canada-eh.freeserve.co.uk
>
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> and I've fed them all the same thing, so that reinforces the idea that this one
> cat just has bad teeth.  I think your cat just has bad teeth, not a bad owner.

Exactly. My Gnarly was fed wet food only her first three or four years. I
then switched
to dry for the last 15 years. Never a single dental cleaning, never a single
health problem,
and she died with all her teeth, just one little chip, no cavities even. She
just had great teeth.
kaeli - 02 Sep 2004 16:36 GMT
Kudos for adopting your baby. So many need homes.

> She was thin
> and malnourished and relied on the shelter's 5pm feeding schedule (wet
> food).  I've had cats before and I have never given them wet food once they
> were adults and they've never had teeth problems.  But Cilla was different.
> We tried to wean her off of it when we first brought her home but she
> refused to eat dry food and would howl if we didn't give her the wet stuff.

Wet is MUCH better for them than dry, assuming a good quality food.
MUCH better.

Dry food, with all the carbs (carbs are sugar), can wreak havok on their
teeth. With the low moisture, it can wreak hell on their kidneys and bladder.
Feeding dry doesn't do anything for the teeth and it can even be harmful for
cats who don't drink enough.

> My husband and I wanted her to be happy and to begin to feel settled with us
> so we have carried on with wet food once a day in addition to dry.  Is this
> the reason her teeth have gotten so bad??  Have we done this to her?

I doubt it. Honestly, some cats just get bad teeth.
In the future, you may want to brush her teeth every week.
I brush my femals cats' teeth every week. One of them never gets plaque.
Another gets a little. My boy's teeth and gums are horrible and he needs his
teeth brushed twice a week.

> As much as we love her, a part of me is feeling like we don't deserve her,
> like we should find another home for her.  

No, don't do that. She's been moved around enough and you obviously love her.

> How do we get her off the wet food without making her unhappy?

Don't. Put her back on it and ditch the dry.
Just start watching her teeth and cleaning them weekly as needed.

Don't beat yourself up over it. We all do the best we can and learn from
life. You love her. She loves you. The problem is getting fixed. So,
everything has worked out all right, eh?
She's lucky to have owners who care so much for her.

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KellyH - 02 Sep 2004 16:47 GMT
> Hi everyone,
>
> My 3 year old fur baby is at the vets right now after having her teeth
> de-scaled and an id chip injection.

<snip>

Don't feel bad at all!!  The worst thing you could do for this baby is to
make her adjust to yet another home.  You are doing everything right.  Some
cats do just have bad teeth, just like people.  It may be just her physical
make-up, or it could have been from her previous care.  We just had a cat at
the shelter who is only 4, and she had to have all but a few teeth pulled.

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Mary - 02 Sep 2004 18:45 GMT
> Hi everyone,
>
>> As much as we love her, a part of me is feeling like we don't deserve
her,
> like we should find another home for her.  I almost feel like I have abused
> her by not taking care of her like we should have.

Jesus! Would you really do this to her over your mistake?
If so, you win Most Lame Rationalization of the year.
Get her teeth taken care of and add a bit of dry food
and regular dental checkups to your routine. Don't add
insult to injury by abandoning her now.
SummerC - 02 Sep 2004 19:05 GMT
>> Hi everyone,
>>
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> and regular dental checkups to your routine. Don't add
> insult to injury by abandoning her now.

I'm surprised to read this Mary.  I think everyone else who responded to my
post realised how upset I was and were quite understanding.  No I would
never EVER give my little girl away.  I love her more than is probably
healthy.  But I was upset...very upset and the thought of me hurting her was
more than I could deal with.  I'm sorry if you took offense to it.

Summer
Mary - 02 Sep 2004 19:07 GMT
"SummerC" <summer@canada-eh.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message > I'm
surprised to read this Mary.  I think everyone else who responded to my
> post realised how upset I was and were quite understanding.  No I would
> never EVER give my little girl away.  I love her more than is probably
> healthy.  But I was upset...very upset and the thought of me hurting her was
> more than I could deal with.  I'm sorry if you took offense to it.

It just worried me. I'm sorry if I sounded harsh.
SummerC - 02 Sep 2004 20:28 GMT
> "SummerC" <summer@canada-eh.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message > I'm
> surprised to read this Mary.  I think everyone else who responded to my
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>
> It just worried me. I'm sorry if I sounded harsh.

Nothing to worry about.  I'm new here and I didn't want anyone getting the
wrong ideas about me.  I'm not someone who has what I call "convenience
pets", great as long as they suit your lifestyle, but expendable when they
don't.  That is definitely not me.  I love my baby girl very very much...she
keeps me happy and sane.  :)
SummerC - 02 Sep 2004 18:48 GMT
> Hi everyone,
>
> My 3 year old fur baby is at the vets right now after having her teeth
> de-scaled and an id chip injection.

Thank you everyone who responded to this.  Cilla is home now and seems to be
ok, if not a little unsteady on her feet.  The vet had to remove a lot of
teeth.  She is left with her canines and one or two others.  I will have to
talk to the vet on Saturday when she has her post-op appointment about wet
vs dry.  I was always under the assumption that dry food was better for
them.  Perhaps I have been misinformed??

Thanks again for all of your responses.  I wrote right after I had heard
from the vets office and I think I went to pieces thinking about her having
to go through all of that alone.  I would never ever give her away.  Our
world revolves around this little kitty, she's too important to us and too
settled with us for me to even imagine life without her.  Is it possible to
love your pet TOO much??  Because just looking at her makes me smile.  I'm
rambling though.  Thank you so much for your support and information.

Summer
Karen - 02 Sep 2004 18:56 GMT
> > Hi everyone,
> >
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>
> Summer

Grant only has his canines and front teeth. He eats well. I would sure
recommend staying on wet. He eats kibble too, but he was totally on dry food
when he had his teeth out and up to that point. Now he eats wet as it is
better for his urinary tract. Food just really doesn't make a huge
difference. Glad she is home.
Mary - 02 Sep 2004 19:04 GMT
"SummerC" <summer@canada-eh.freeserve.co.uk>

> Thanks again for all of your responses.  I wrote right after I had heard
> from the vets office and I think I went to pieces thinking about her having
> to go through all of that alone.  I would never ever give her away.

Yay! She needs you.

Our
> world revolves around this little kitty, she's too important to us and too
> settled with us for me to even imagine life without her.  Is it possible to
> love your pet TOO much??  Because just looking at her makes me smile.  I'm
> rambling though.  Thank you so much for your support and information.

Oh, I don't know, Summer, you sound like the perfect cat mom to me.
:)
kaeli - 02 Sep 2004 19:37 GMT
> Thank you everyone who responded to this.  Cilla is home now and seems to be
> ok, if not a little unsteady on her feet.

Yay!

> The vet had to remove a lot of
> teeth.  She is left with her canines and one or two others.  I will have to
> talk to the vet on Saturday when she has her post-op appointment about wet
> vs dry.  I was always under the assumption that dry food was better for
> them.  Perhaps I have been misinformed??

Read this. Megan posted it yesterday, I think, and it's very informative, yet
written in English.  ;)
(as opposed to vet-inese *LOL*
)
http://www.catsincanada.com/articles/feeding.html

> Is it possible to
> love your pet TOO much??

Not in my opinion. *smiles*

Glad you're all doing well.

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Mary - 02 Sep 2004 21:53 GMT
>Is this
>the reason her teeth have gotten so bad??  Have we done this to her?

Maybe that's why she preferred wet food. There's no way her teeth got that bad
in just one year. When I adopt a new cat I take them in for a physical and make
sure the vet looks at their teeth. Except for one kitten I've always ended up
with cats with dental issues, probably because I like to adopt older cats.
 
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