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Jennifer - 02 Sep 2004 01:41 GMT
My cat, Toby, has a dark-colored, hard bump on one side of his anus.
It's a little smaller than a baby-pea.  I can also just barely see a
very small bump on the other side.  He hasn't exhibited any signs of
anal gland problems, though - no scooting, etc.  He eats dry Iams food
and isn't overweight.  He doesn't seem to be in pain.  Of course, he
doesn't really like me trying to look or feel the bump, but I think it
isn't currently hurting him.

The bump is dry and hard, and it doesn't seem to smell or have any
odor (I've never noticed an odor from him.)

So would this be an impaction of the anal gland?  Would it be
something I should get checked out by the vet?  He was just in for his
annual checkup and shots with no problems found (I think he may have
had this at that time, because I remember once before that catching a
glimpse of what I figured was poo stuck to his butt, but I'm not
certain).

TIA for any info.
equalizer - 02 Sep 2004 02:12 GMT
>My cat, Toby, has a dark-colored, hard bump on one side of his anus.
>It's a little smaller than a baby-pea.  I can also just barely see a
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>
>TIA for any info.

Well, if it was my cat, I'd sure have 'em down to the vet to have a look
at it....

eq
Frank Pittel - 02 Sep 2004 02:34 GMT
: My cat, Toby, has a dark-colored, hard bump on one side of his anus.
: It's a little smaller than a baby-pea.  I can also just barely see a
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: doesn't really like me trying to look or feel the bump, but I think it
: isn't currently hurting him.

: The bump is dry and hard, and it doesn't seem to smell or have any
: odor (I've never noticed an odor from him.)

: So would this be an impaction of the anal gland?  Would it be
: something I should get checked out by the vet?  He was just in for his
: annual checkup and shots with no problems found (I think he may have
: had this at that time, because I remember once before that catching a
: glimpse of what I figured was poo stuck to his butt, but I'm not
: certain).

Have you considered taking him to a vet?? Ask yourself if you would take your
child to a doctor if you noticed the same thing.
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Phil P. - 02 Sep 2004 02:59 GMT
Ask yourself if you would take your
> child to a doctor if you noticed the same thing.

If I noticed anal sac impaction in my child, my wife would have to come up
with one hell of an explanation!
Jennifer - 04 Sep 2004 03:09 GMT
> Have you considered taking him to a vet?? Ask yourself if you would take your
> child to a doctor if you noticed the same thing.

I don't have a child, so I can't say on that question, although I do
think some parents whisk their kids off to the doctor at the slightest
sniffle, demanding antibiotics to treat viruses, etc.

I considered taking him to the vet.  I was hoping for someone who
could say they'd experienced something similar, validate or contradict
what I thought his problem was, and give me some idea of how bad or
urgent it was so I knew what I was dealing with and could make plans
accordingly.

Jennifer
Frank Pittel - 06 Sep 2004 02:15 GMT
: > Have you considered taking him to a vet?? Ask yourself if you would take your
: > child to a doctor if you noticed the same thing.

: I don't have a child, so I can't say on that question, although I do
: think some parents whisk their kids off to the doctor at the slightest
: sniffle, demanding antibiotics to treat viruses, etc.

I don't have child either and don't believe in using antibiotics or any other
form of medication unless absolutly necessary!

: I considered taking him to the vet.  I was hoping for someone who
: could say they'd experienced something similar, validate or contradict
: what I thought his problem was, and give me some idea of how bad or
: urgent it was so I knew what I was dealing with and could make plans
: accordingly.

I don't question your love or dedication to you cat. Unfortunately it's possible
for different problems to have the same external symptoms. Let your vet decide
if it's serious or not. I've had a lot of cats in my life and have often been
surprised at how things I thought were minor turned  out to belief threatening.

Still remember when when my brother and I were living together and a cat of mine
that normally went outside came back after being out for a couple days. When I
first saw I knew something was wrong when a normally friendly cat growled when I
came near it and hissed and cried in pain when I touched it. I called home to
talk to my brother that happened to be coming home from vacation that day and
demanded that he take his cat to the vet immediately and only got him to do so
after offering to pay the vet bill. As it turned out he had an infection in his
leg from a cat fight which resulted in an infection that would have killed him
by morning and as a result caused a fever that resulted in permanent brain
damage. He was always a sweet loving cat that while still smart was always a bit
slow in the uptake. Talking to the vet that evening  I learned that as predators
a cat will do it's best to hide any weakness or injury since that makes them
prey to other predators. When a cat can't hide being hurt that means they're
very sick. Since then I've made it a policy to take a cat that even seems a
little sick or hurt to the vet ASAP since then.

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Phil P. - 02 Sep 2004 02:44 GMT
> My cat, Toby, has a dark-colored, hard bump on one side of his anus.
> It's a little smaller than a baby-pea.  I can also just barely see a
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>
> So would this be an impaction of the anal gland?

Yes.  A swollen area on either side of the anus usually indicates impaction
of the anal sacs (they're not glands).

http://maxshouse.com/anal_sac_disease_in_the_cat.htm

Would it be
> something I should get checked out by the vet?

Absolutely.  Impacted anal sacs tend to become inflamed and infected -
infection could lead to abscessation and, finally, to rupture.

The sacs need to be expressed (drained) then cleaned and flushed with an
antiseptic solution.  If the sacs are infected/inflamed your vet will need
to instill an antibiotic/corticosteroid ointment. In cats, the sacs are
usually only impacted - unless they're left untreated.

Phil
Jennifer - 02 Sep 2004 17:54 GMT
> Yes.  A swollen area on either side of the anus usually indicates impaction
> of the anal sacs (they're not glands).
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>
> Phil

Cool - we now have an appointment at the vet tomorrow.  It was hard to
get squeezed in with the holiday coming up, but it'll be good to get
it checked out.

I'm just surprised that Toby doesn't seem the least bothered, or
smelly, or anything.

Interestingly, one of my two cats occasionally poops on the basement
floor instead of in the box.  I haven't been able to figure out which
cat, or link it to any state of the box, and its somewhat sporadic.
Now I wonder if Toby has been the one doing it, and if it might be
related to this issue.  Although that's been going on for quite a
while (just occasionally tho) and they go to the vet every year for
checkups.  Who knows...

Jenn
Phil P. - 03 Sep 2004 04:06 GMT
> > Yes.  A swollen area on either side of the anus usually indicates impaction
> > of the anal sacs (they're not glands).
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> Now I wonder if Toby has been the one doing it, and if it might be
> related to this issue.

You should put the litter boxes in a quiet, low-traffic area but also where
you can monitor your cats' litterbox activity for potential problems -
especially if you have male cats.  What they eliminate is just as, if not
more important than how they eliminate it.

If you can't actually see your cats eliminate you won't know if they're
having difficulties.  For a male cat with a urinary tract obstruction, this
can be fatal.

Phil
Jennifer - 04 Sep 2004 02:54 GMT
> You should put the litter boxes in a quiet, low-traffic area but also where
> you can monitor your cats' litterbox activity for potential problems -
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>
> Phil

I do see them go fairly often, because when I go downstairs to clean
the boxes, do laundry, work on projects, get stuff, etc, the cats
always go with me, and often hop in the box then (especially right
after I clean it).  Plus I scoop fairly frequently so I can tell that
they're both going.

Jennifer
Sunflower - 03 Sep 2004 04:11 GMT
> Interestingly, one of my two cats occasionally poops on the basement
> floor instead of in the box.  I haven't been able to figure out which
> cat, or link it to any state of the box, and its somewhat sporadic.
> Now I wonder if Toby has been the one doing it, and if it might be
> related to this issue.  Although that's been going on for quite a
> while (just occasionally tho) and they go to the vet every year for

I wouldn't have thought anal sac problems would cause that, but one of
mine had been doing it several times a week for the last month or so.
It was clear it wasn't incontinence because she'd wander in and out
of the room with the litter box like she wanted to use it but couldn't.
I had thought it was an issue with cleanliness of the box, but I finally
got where I'm cleaning it twice daily (I got a Litter Locker -- it's the
greatest thing ever!), and she was still pooping on the floor every
other day or so even when the box was really clean.

I decided it was time for a vet visit for Mandy, despite how terrified
she is of vet visits, both because of the pooping and because
of a strange bump.  The vet expressed the sacs and Mandy hasn't
gone outside the box once in the week since.  She hadn't done this
before even though she has sometimes needed the sacs expressed
at previous checkups.  So maybe it's coincidence, but maybe your
Toby is the guilty party and maybe he will not have the problem any
more after his sacs are taken care of.

Catherine (human), Mandy (grey tabby), and Judy (brown tabby with white).

(p.s.  I'm not really new to the group, but it's been a long time since
I posted, and it wasn't with this userid.)
Jennifer - 04 Sep 2004 02:59 GMT
> I wouldn't have thought anal sac problems would cause that, but one of
> mine had been doing it several times a week for the last month or so.
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> (p.s.  I'm not really new to the group, but it's been a long time since
> I posted, and it wasn't with this userid.)

That's interesting.  I'll see what happens, although mine did it
pretty sporadically, so it could be a while to know for sure.

He's had his sacs done today - poor kitty didn't care for the vet's
attention to his rear end.  But the vet said that he was for sure
impacted, so he really needed the treatment.

I thought Toby might be mad at me for taking him to the vet and
holding him down through the procedure, but he's still as much the
"sweetest little mama's boy kitty" as ever.

Jennifer
Jennifer - 04 Sep 2004 03:14 GMT
> Yes.  A swollen area on either side of the anus usually indicates impaction
> of the anal sacs (they're not glands).

My vet called them glands, and the computerized bill referred to them
as glands.  I don't really know the distinction - and perhaps the
reference a regional thing or something...

Just found that interesting.

Thanks for all the info - that was a very informative website.
Jennifer
Karen Chuplis - 02 Sep 2004 04:05 GMT
> My cat, Toby, has a dark-colored, hard bump on one side of his anus.
> It's a little smaller than a baby-pea.  I can also just barely see a
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> TIA for any info.

Definitely!! It could become infected.
Judy - 02 Sep 2004 04:59 GMT
> My cat, Toby, has a dark-colored, hard bump on one side of his anus.
> It's a little smaller than a baby-pea.  I can also just barely see a
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> So would this be an impaction of the anal gland?  Would it be
> something I should get checked out by the vet?

>He was just in for his annual checkup and shots with no problems found (I
think he may have
> had this at that time, because I remember once before that catching a
> glimpse of what I figured was poo stuck to his butt, but I'm not
> certain).

If you are uncertain about what it is, then have it checked out! No one here
can truely answer your question.

Judy
 
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