To preface, I'm a great believer in vaccinations for both pets and
people. However....
My indoor only cat has a reaction to rabies vaccines. When I got her,
at about 11 weeks, I took her in for the last of her kitten shots (if I
remember correctly). She developed a lump at the injection site. I went
into full panic mode. The vet did a needle biopsy and there was really
nothing wrong. The lump went away within a month. The next year, same
shot, same lump. I had discussed adjutant free vaccines with my vet.
However, her feeling was that, because, at that time (2 years ago),
those still called for being given every year, she thought it would be
even worse. Last year was the no shot year. What do I do this year?
Pennsylvania law requires rabies shots. This cat has never been
outside. The other cat who lives here is inoculated regularly. The vet
I spoke to at the time of the last shot gave me the impression that she
would go along with whatever decsion I made but it's a group practice.
Also, I'm thinking of changing vets as my current vet is VERY expensive
(though they're great and convenient).
My vet seemed to think that the injection site reaction didn't
neccesarily mean she would be more disposed to sarcoma. Also, although
she has never been outside, we do get mice inside and she hunts them
(drops them on my be still alive at 4am!) sometimes to death, sometimes
not.
Anyone have any longer term experience (a cat who always reacts but
hasn't developed any other conditions?)? I don't want to endanger her
in any way but I don't really know which course is lest dangerous.
Meg
Karen Chuplis - 01 Sep 2004 04:33 GMT
> To preface, I'm a great believer in vaccinations for both pets and
> people. However....
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> Meg
Mine get Purevax. They don't get lumps anymore. Go for the Purevax.
Magic Mood Jeep? - 01 Sep 2004 04:51 GMT
Definitely, go for the PureVax - it's made by Merial (which is a division of
Merck). They make Frontline and lots of other fine pet pharmaceuticals.

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>> To preface, I'm a great believer in vaccinations for both pets and
>> people. However....
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> Mine get Purevax. They don't get lumps anymore. Go for the Purevax.
Meg St. Clair - 01 Sep 2004 05:13 GMT
>> Anyone have any longer term experience (a cat who always reacts but
>> hasn't developed any other conditions?)? I don't want to endanger her
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> Mine get Purevax. They don't get lumps anymore. Go for the Purevax.
Have the changed the protocol to every three (or is it two?) years the
same as the standard vaccine formulation? I take it from your reply
that your cats also got the lumps.
Karen Chuplis - 01 Sep 2004 12:25 GMT
>>> Anyone have any longer term experience (a cat who always reacts but
>>> hasn't developed any other conditions?)? I don't want to endanger her
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> same as the standard vaccine formulation? I take it from your reply
> that your cats also got the lumps.
No, I think it is still only certified for yearly, but since they don't get
lumps it does not bother me. Yes, when I first got Grant and SUgar's shots,
they got lumps that stayed for about 3 months. Freaked me out. My vet calls
them lumpy kitties. they are siblings. My third cat has no reaction to
regular shots.
Nomen Nescio - 02 Sep 2004 08:20 GMT
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>No, I think it is still only certified for yearly, but since they don't get
>lumps it does not bother me.
As a side note, TK got his first rabies shot a couple of weeks ago with Purevax
and got no lump at the injection site. He has to get another shot next year which
can be Purevax (good for another year), or a different type that will be good for
3 years. When I mentioned that I would probably go with the annual Purevax
shot, the vet mentioned a study that was showing a connection between
ANY injection site and the development of sarcoma. It seems that cats have been
developing a sarcoma at the injection site when injected with nothing more
than a pure saline solution Because of that, she chooses to have her cats on
the 3 year plan based on the rational that the less injections, the better.
I'm still iffy about going with anything but the Purevax, but I've got a year to decide.
Just thought this was worth mentioning.
Meg St. Clair - 02 Sep 2004 15:17 GMT
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> Just thought this was worth mentioning.
That's what I'd heard. I'm still thinking. My vet isn't convinced that
there's necessarily a connection between the lumps and cancer.
I guess my real question is how much danger would I be putting my baby
in if I DON"T get her vaccinated for rabies? Will my vet be able to go
along with my choice?
Melanie's Phony Email Address for NGs - 01 Sep 2004 15:32 GMT
I'm leery of them. My cat had her kitten ones and probably some from
her other 3 owners trips to the vet, so she's not having any more,
anytime soon.
I know someone whose cat nearly died after her annual vaccines, which
is scarey. The kitty never had any reactions before. Good thing he
waked his owner up in the middle of the night, or they would have
found a dead cat the next day! And good thing they were responsible
cat owners and whisked him off to the emergency pet hospital
immediately.
I don't get any myself, after a bad reaction to tetanus booster one
year. There was also the year that I refused the flu shot at work and
about 80 of the ones who did get it, got horrendously sick and those
who did not take it were relied on to come to work on time and well
and DO ALL THE WORK. (LOL)
Discuss it with your vet I guess, and try to make an informed choice.
~Melanie
PawsForThought - 01 Sep 2004 17:54 GMT
>From: princessinthengtower@yahoo.ca (Melanie's Phony Email Address for NGs)
>I'm leery of them. My cat had her kitten ones and probably some from
>her other 3 owners trips to the vet, so she's not having any more,
>anytime soon.
>I know someone whose cat nearly died after her annual vaccines, which
>is scarey.
I imagine that was scarey. Here's an article you might find of interest:
http://www.bullovedbulldogs.com/dangersofvaccinations.htm
Lauren
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PawsForThought - 01 Sep 2004 13:28 GMT
>From: Meg St. Clair megsaint@earthlink.net
>Last year was the no shot year. What do I do this year?
>Pennsylvania law requires rabies shots. This cat has never been
>outside. The other cat who lives here is inoculated regularly.
You can get a letter from your vet which would exempt the cat who gets the
reaction from having to get the rabies vac. There have been new studies that
lead to the conclusion that immunity lasts much longer than previously thought,
some vets even believe immunity lasts at least 7 years for vaccines, if not
longer. Here's one study that was done:
http://www.naturalholistic.com/handouts/vaccines_7year.htm
Lauren
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Meg St. Clair - 02 Sep 2004 15:20 GMT
>> From: Meg St. Clair megsaint@earthlink.net
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> Lauren
That's great information! It makes me feel better to know that my vet
would probably be able to honor my choice if I decide not to vaccinate.
I know it would mean that I would be able to take Spot to my parents in
Canada again but I don't go that often.
Thanks,
Meg
~*Connie*~ - 01 Sep 2004 18:09 GMT
you could ask your vet to do vaccine titers.. if your cat comes back saying
it is protected, you wont need to do vaccines.
> To preface, I'm a great believer in vaccinations for both pets and
> people. However....
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> Meg
Meg St. Clair - 02 Sep 2004 15:21 GMT
> you could ask your vet to do vaccine titers.. if your cat comes back saying
> it is protected, you wont need to do vaccines.
That's a great suggestion.
Thanks,
Meg