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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / August 2004stupid, stupid neighbor
Today I see a sign on the community mailboxes that says my neighbor across the street was babysitting his friend's Himmie, and it has gone missing. They let the cat OUTSIDE and "now he hasn't come back for two nights in a row". The sign asks for any info. It has *poured* rain here (Portland, OR) over the last few days - even if the cat was able to sniff his way back, the trail has since long-gone from the rain. I'll bet he's scared and hiding someplace. I'm just sick about it, and of course, I haven't seen the poor thing. :( Stupid, stupid people!!! I continually get blown away. I'm waiting for the day when the sheer stupidity of the human race doesn't have any affect on me. I think that day is coming very, very soon. -L. -> Today I see a sign on the community mailboxes that says my neighbor -> across the street was babysitting his friend's Himmie, and it has gone -> missing. They let the cat OUTSIDE and "now he hasn't come back for -> two nights in a row". The sign asks for any info. -> -> It has *poured* rain here (Portland, OR) over the last few days - even -> if the cat was able to sniff his way back, the trail has since -> long-gone from the rain. I'll bet he's scared and hiding someplace. -> I'm just sick about it, and of course, I haven't seen the poor thing. -> :( -> -> Stupid, stupid people!!! I continually get blown away. I'm waiting -> for the day when the sheer stupidity of the human race doesn't have -> any affect on me. I think that day is coming very, very soon. I suspect that would take some extremely strong drugs. At least in my case it would.  Signature8^(~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail) ~~~~~~ "I reserve the absolute right to be smarter today than I was yesterday." -Adlai Stevenson http://home.earthlink.net/~sme617 ***Revelation 22:12*** ICQ: 349878998 Ditto. There is no way that a day goes by when someone (or many) refrain from stupidity. >Ditto. There is no way that a day goes by when someone (or many) refrain >from >stupidity. I *so* do not understand this sentence. Sherry >From: sriddles@aol.comkitty (Sherry ) >>Ditto. There is no way that a day goes by when someone (or many) refrain >>from >>stupidity. > >I *so* do not understand this sentence. LMAO, me either! Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm > >From: sriddles@aol.comkitty (Sherry ) > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Lauren > ________ It isn't the best-constructed sentence but I understand it just fine. Selective comprehension might be the problem. >> >>Ditto. There is no way that a day goes by when someone (or many) >refrain [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >It isn't the best-constructed sentence but I understand it just fine. >Selective comprehension might be the problem. No, seriously. I'm assuming the OP was replying to Lyn's post (but who knows, since there was no attribute). Because the people who "refrain from stupidity" aren't the problem. Sherry >From: "Mary" rosefan@email.com >> >From: sriddles@aol.comkitty (Sherry ) >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >It isn't the best-constructed sentence but I understand it just fine. >Selective comprehension might be the problem. I guess I should have said I understood the sentence, but just didn't see the point. Of course people refrain from stupidity daily. Maybe he/she meant to say "There is no way that a day goes by when someone (or many) DON'T refrain from stupidity. (or something to that effect) Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm >Today I see a sign on the community mailboxes that says my neighbor >across the street was babysitting his friend's Himmie, and it has gone >missing. Perhaps the cat is heading home and that is the direction the search should head. I don't see much incentive for the cat to return to it's sitters home. -mhd > Today I see a sign on the community mailboxes that says my neighbor > across the street was babysitting his friend's Himmie, and it has gone [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -L. I blame the owner more than your neighbor for not telling him not to let the cat out. People give babysitters mile-long lists of things to do and things not to do yet some owners don't think to tell a catsitter the two most important things: make sure the cat doesn't get out and not to feed the cat anything but her cat food. The stupidity boggles the mind. I used to love meeting people who have cats, but then after talking with them for five minutes, I tremble in fear from their stupidity and/or ignorance or worse, indifference. People will read an instruction manual for a household appliance or computer game but not a simple basic cat care guide. I would love to make a 3-hour class followed by a short test a requirement for adoption... and ideally, an IQ test because some people are just too stupid to be entrusted with a cat's life. But that will never happen until the demand exceeds the supply. Phil > I blame the owner more than your neighbor for not telling him not to let the > cat out. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > things: make sure the cat doesn't get out and not to feed the cat anything > but her cat food. The stupidity boggles the mind. Haha.. you should see the lists I leave for my catsitter. It was at least 6 pages last time, with pictures! > I used to love meeting people who have cats, but then after talking with > them for five minutes, I tremble in fear from their stupidity and/or > ignorance or worse, indifference. > People will read an instruction manual for a household appliance or computer > game but not a simple basic cat care guide. I totally KWYM! Sometimes after talking to people, I want to follow it up with "where do you live?" so I can go take their cats away. > I would love to make a 3-hour class followed by a short test a requirement > for adoption... and ideally, an IQ test because some people are just too > stupid to be entrusted with a cat's life. But that will never happen until > the demand exceeds the supply. > > Phil Again, ITA. I feel the shelter I volunteer for is too lax, and it's starting to really bother me. Case in point, we have a guy who adopted a kitten from us. The kitten came down with a URI two days later. He takes her to the vet, vet charges $87 (for what, I don't know, he's bringing us a receipt, plus he had a certificate for a first free vet exam). He is all kinds of pissed off that we adopted out a "sick" kitten, we knew she was sick (she seemed fine at the time), we should reimburse him for the vet visit. Oh, he also says he can't pay his rent now because of this. I say, bring the kitten back and we'll give you your money back for the adoption fee and the vet visit, just go away and don't adopt another kitten. I have never had someone react with such anger about a kitten becoming ill. The person in charge has said to let him keep the kitten, but reimburse for the vet visit. I fear for how he may react at the next illness. Sorry to go on, but this situation is really eating me up. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net www.kelltek.com Check out www.snittens.com ... The > person in charge has said to let him keep the kitten, but reimburse for the > vet visit. I fear for how he may react at the next illness. Sorry to go > on, but this situation is really eating me up. > -Kelly Just goes to show that stupidity can show up at all levels. I share your concern about the decision of the person in charge and the new owner's future reaction when the cat needs additional care. I'd say this poor kitty is headed for the street or back to the shelter before long. I hope this man's name is put on a do-not-adopt list. Annie >From: "KellyH" Kelly@whatever.com >Oh, he also says he can't pay his rent now because of this. I say, >bring the kitten back and we'll give you your money back for the adoption >fee and the vet visit, just go away and don't adopt another kitten. I have >never had someone react with such anger about a kitten becoming ill. The >person in charge has said to let him keep the kitten, but reimburse for the >vet visit. I fear for how he may react at the next illness. Ugh, I hate people like this. Too bad the shelter didn't get the kitten back. This guy sounds like a total idiot. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm <snip> : Again, ITA. I feel the shelter I volunteer for is too lax, and it's : starting to really bother me. Case in point, we have a guy who adopted a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] : vet visit. I fear for how he may react at the next illness. Sorry to go : on, but this situation is really eating me up. The shelters aren't completely blameless either. I know they mean well and do their best. Then again so do most people that have cats. Case in point. Earlier this summer I got a kitten that was rescued from a train yard. The conductor that rescued it couldn't keep it and either I took it or it was going to a shelter. A few weeks later I decided that he needed a friend so I went to the local shelter and after filling out a pile of paperwork that included a certificate from a vet that the kitten I had was healthy. I picked out a kitten, paid them the adoption fee and took it home. Part of the agreement I signed when I got the kitten was that I would bring it to a vet within a week of getting it. I made an appointment with the vet for the next day on the way home. When I got the kitten to the vet I was told that he had a URI and that it was contagious. Of course I had already introduced him to the other kitten by then. I ended up having two sick kittens. I called the shelter to let them know that I had gotten a kitten with a URI and was informed that I couldn't prove that it got it there!! All I wanted to do was let them know of the problem so they could treat the other kittens they had there. Three weeks later the kitten I got from the shelter turned up with ringworm. Fortunately I caught it early and it didn't spread to far or to the other kitten. However as a precaution I had to dip both of them. Once again I called the shelter to inform them of the potential problem they had and their response indicated they didn't care. I didn't want them to refund any vet bills. I didn't want the to refund any money. I know that having pets means that I'm on the hook for vet bills when they get sick or injured. All I wanted to do was let them know that I had gotten a kitten from them that had contagious conditions and that they needed to check the rest of the kittens/cats that they had. Each time they responded with denial. I don't think that it was unreasonable for me to expect to get a healthy kitten from the shelter. I was told when I first got there that all incoming animals were isolated until checked by a vet before introducing them to the rest of the population. I was assured that the kittens they were adopting were healthy. The one I got from them not only wasn't but got my healthy kitten sick!! SignatureKeep working millions on welfare depend on you ------------------- fwp@deepthought.com > <snip> > [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] > The > one I got from them not only wasn't but got my healthy kitten sick!! To be frank, almost every cat I have ever heard of adopted from a situation where there are a lot of other cats, be it a shelter or not, has had to get over a bout of something or other. First off, new environments cause stress and that sets of URIs. Ringworm is just awful common too. Cats, like humans, experience depression of immune system under stress and there isn't much you can do except support whatever happens. I'm sure they will be fine soon. thank goodness it isn't more serious than this. : > <snip> : > [quoted text clipped - 64 lines] : > The : > one I got from them not only wasn't but got my healthy kitten sick!! : To be frank, almost every cat I have ever heard of adopted from a situation : where there are a lot of other cats, be it a shelter or not, has had to get [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : can do except support whatever happens. I'm sure they will be fine soon. : thank goodness it isn't more serious than this. Don't get me wrong. I'm not upset with the shelter and in fact believe that they did there best. What upset me was there reaction to me telling them that the kitten I got from them had a contatious URI when I got him home. I would have thought they would be interested so that they could check and treat the kittens that they still had. As I told the person I spoke with on the phone the kitten I had was mine and getting it treated was my reponsibility. I made it clear I didn't want a different kitten or have them pay the vet bill. I will even take a large percentage of the responsibility for my other kitten getting sick since I should have kept them seperated at first. I do think that having been told of the problem that the shelter should be in some way responsible for the health of the kittens in the cage area after they were informed of a problem. The same holds with the case of ringworm. I understand that it happens but I would have thought that they would be interested in knowing that there was a problem in the cages/pens/holding areas that needed to be disenfected. Like you say I'm thankfull that the problems that the kitten had and unfortunatly spread to my other kitten was fairly minor (Is there actually a minor URI?) that responded well to the antibiotics. They even responded quickly to the ringworm treatment. I do think that if a shelter adopts out kittens that were potentially sick with ringworm, a URI, etc should either be required to inform the adoptee of the probable expense or cover a part of the expense. My sister got a kitten many years ago that turned out to have a URI when she got it and they provided the medication at no cost to her. Again I realize that the people that volunter at teh shelters are doing there best to ensure that the animals they offer for adoption are healthy. I do think that it's not unreasonable to expect that unless I'm informed otherwise that a kitten I get from a shelter is healthy. BTW - Although my two kittens are still sneezing ( the vet told me it's to be expected and will stop in another couple of months ) they are both the picture of health and have become the best of friends. The little guy that I got from the shelter is the sweetest and friendliest kitten I've ever had. They certainly did a good job of socializing him. SignatureKeep working millions on welfare depend on you ------------------- fwp@deepthought.com > : > <snip> > : > [quoted text clipped - 148 lines] > certainly > did a good job of socializing him. Indeed, they should have said soemthing if it was known about. I'm glad they are doing so well! > > I blame the owner more than your neighbor for not telling him not to let > the [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > I totally KWYM! Sometimes after talking to people, I want to follow it up > with "where do you live?" so I can go take their cats away. Doncha wish we do that legally? I sure do. > > I would love to make a 3-hour class followed by a short test a requirement > > for adoption... and ideally, an IQ test because some people are just too [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Again, ITA. I feel the shelter I volunteer for is too lax, and it's > starting to really bother me. I don't handle too many adoptions anymore -- too many complaints. My interviews were called "ingerrogations". My placement rate is about 10%. Case in point, we have a guy who adopted a > kitten from us. The kitten came down with a URI two days later. He takes > her to the vet, vet charges $87 (for what, I don't know, he's bringing us a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > vet visit. I fear for how he may react at the next illness. Sorry to go > on, but this situation is really eating me up. I know how you feel. Phil > > Today I see a sign on the community mailboxes that says my neighbor > > across the street was babysitting his friend's Himmie, and it has gone [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > I blame the owner more than your neighbor for not telling him not to let the > cat out. I dunno if this was discussed or not. Probably not. > People give babysitters mile-long lists of things to do and things not to do > yet some owners don't think to tell a catsitter the two most important > things: make sure the cat doesn't get out and not to feed the cat anything > but her cat food. The stupidity boggles the mind. LOL - that's the first thing on my list "The animals must stay in the pet area - cats DO NOT go outside." (We have separate quartesr for our companion animals.) > I used to love meeting people who have cats, but then after talking with > them for five minutes, I tremble in fear from their stupidity and/or [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > stupid to be entrusted with a cat's life. But that will never happen until > the demand exceeds the supply. Some of the smartest people I know are the *dumbest* when it comes to animals. Ph. D. molecular biologist who can't figure out why his dog barks all day long. A *very* good vet who declaws her cats, and then can't figure out why they pee all over the house. Just plain *stoopid*! -L. |
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