> >Thank you. I will have a little collection at the bridge. I lost louies
> >brother to the same thing 2 weeks ago, and another of my older cats earlier
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> else going on there. FIP is notoriously hard to diagnose and very often
> misdiagnosed.
>From: "~*Connie
>Yngver" <yngver@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
>tdeanne1955@aol.com (Tracy) wrote:
>Thank you. I will have a little collection at the bridge. I lost louies
>> >brother to the same thing 2 weeks ago, and another of my older cats
>earlier
>> >this year. Not a good year to be one of my cats. BTW, Louie looked alot
>> >likeyour Abbey
>I am sorry for your losses. However, it would be an unusual coincidence
>for
>> several cats in a household to develop FIP. In most cats, the relatively
>benign
>> feline coronavirus will never mutate into FIP. I suspect there is
something
>> else going on there. FIP is notoriously hard to diagnose and very often
>> misdiagnosed
>i second this. You might want a second opinion.
The older cat did not die of FIP. The two brothers did, or so I was told by the
vets ( 2) that saw them. The kittens came from a shelter, and 3 of them from
that group of kittens have been put down so far.
The kittens were healthy in appearance but had persistant "colds", and gooky
eyes when they were still at the shelter. They finally were released, and one
of them got gooky eyes again for a brief period, and they both were sneezy
again, so back on antibiotics they went. All seemed well for a little while
until one of them seemed to be getting bonier all the time rather than filling
out. He got skinnier, all but his belly with got bigger all the while. I was
called by the shelter and told it was time to go get them fixed.....and I made
an appiontment to get the one kitten looked at first because I was concerned
that something wasnt right with him.. By the time I got in with him, he was
actually wasted, and his belly was bulged out so badly, and his personality had
taken a hike...he was so bad off....I had him put down that day. The other one
didnt show signs for another week and then he went in the same direction.
I cant really get another opinion because the animals are dead and
buried.....does this sound like FIP to you all?
Joe - 29 Aug 2004 11:58 GMT
I just lost my Clancy to FIP. FIP is the mutated corona virus that the cat's
immune system can't handle. My vet said it isn't uncommon for sibling or
cats from the same parentage to be susceptible.
> >From: "~*Connie
>
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> I cant really get another opinion because the animals are dead and
> buried.....does this sound like FIP to you all?
Tracy - 29 Aug 2004 13:08 GMT
>From: "Joe"
>I just lost my Clancy to FIP
I am so sorry about Clancy.
Tracy
Yngver - 30 Aug 2004 18:42 GMT
> I cant really get another opinion because the animals are dead and
>buried.....does this sound like FIP to you all?
Maybe, but it could be a lot of other things too. That's the thing about FIP
and why it's so hard to diagnose. The only way you can get a definitive
diagnosis is by analysis of tissue/fluid (and often this is done post-mortem)
and even in those cases, at least 70 percent of cases in which FIP is strongly
suspected and tissue or fluid is sent for analysis, the lab results are
negative for FIP.
Tracy - 31 Aug 2004 00:20 GMT
>From: yngver
>Maybe, but it could be a lot of other things too. That's the thing about FIP
>and why it's so hard to diagnose. The only way you can get a definitive
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>suspected and tissue or fluid is sent for analysis, the lab results are
>negative for FIP.
Thank you, I am starting to be more than a little ticked off that both of my
kittens are dead on the advice of my vets because they had the incurrable FIP.
I cant figure out why they made no attempt at all to work with my kittens.
kaeli - 31 Aug 2004 15:22 GMT
> Thank you, I am starting to be more than a little ticked off that both of my
> kittens are dead on the advice of my vets because they had the incurrable FIP.
> I cant figure out why they made no attempt at all to work with my kittens.
My vet diagnosed my Rowan with FIP nearly two years ago (I think it was...).
The vet was ready to put her down. I decided to wait and see if she got
better on her own (with antibiotics, a sub-q, and lots of TLC) b/c I just
didn't believe that was what was wrong with her.
She's fine now.
She has a recurring URI of some kind (we think herpesvirus) that she kicks on
her own after a few days sometimes and other times needs a little antibiotic
help with, but for the most part, she's healthy, happy, and quite alive. She
gets URI symptoms once or twice a year. A lot like me. *grins*
FIP wasn't what was wrong with her, either.
I cannot stress enough to people that vets, like doctors and other humans,
are sometimes wrong. It happens.

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Yngver - 31 Aug 2004 16:42 GMT
>FIP wasn't what was wrong with her, either.
>I cannot stress enough to people that vets, like doctors and other humans,
>are sometimes wrong. It happens.
Personally I would be very reluctant to accept a diagnosis of FIP since most of
the time, that isn't what's wrong, and FIP is notoriously difficult to
diagnose. Of course I only know this now after having been scared by a vet a
few years ago, who suggested that our cat's case of fever resistant to
antibiotics might be FIP. I then did quite a bit of research on FIP. Of course
our cat did not have FIP and her fever did respond to a specific antibiotic.
After that, my own choice would always be to pursue other diagnoses if a vet
suggested FIP because it usually is something else.
Unfortunately with some vets the tendency is to quit looking for other options
once they suspect FIP because there isn't a treatment for FIP (or hasn't been,
until recently--just read about some trials in which a percentage of cats were
actually successfully treated for FIP).
Karen Chuplis - 01 Sep 2004 00:36 GMT
>> FIP wasn't what was wrong with her, either.
>> I cannot stress enough to people that vets, like doctors and other humans,
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> until recently--just read about some trials in which a percentage of cats were
> actually successfully treated for FIP).
One thing to remember though is that with very little kittens,even if it
were pneumonia (the only other thing I can think of with fluid build up) it
might have been just as devestating. Maybe they could have pursued a more
agressive action, but kittens who are sick are difficult to help recover if
they reach a certain point.