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Brigitte - 20 Aug 2004 17:32 GMT
Hi Group,
Hope you can give me some advice.  About a month ago I took in a cat that
had once belonged to someone I know.  She had pretty-much stopped caring for
the cat.  I felt bad and took the cat into my care.

When I got the cat she was very thin and had an abscess on her behind.  It
is near her rectum and had several openings from where my vet had opened it
up and drained it.

It had been healing nicely, but after 2 weeks she must have began
licking/chewing on it, cuz now it's reopened and oozing puss and blood
again.  I am cleaning it with peroxide and putting antibacterial cream on
it, but it doesn't seem to get any better.  I've put an elizabethan collar
on her, but it doesn't seem to have improved the healing process.

I've had her spayed and declawed and thought she was on her way to recovery
with the thing on her behind, but it just never seems to go away.

She's been tested for all the feline diseases and been found negative.

Anyone out there have any ideas or suggestions as what I can try at home?

Thanks in advance.

Brigitte
Mary - 20 Aug 2004 18:45 GMT
> Hi Group,
> Hope you can give me some advice.  About a month ago I took in a cat that
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>
> Brigitte

Take her back to the vet. While you're there, have him explain to you how he
hacked off the ends of her toes because you were willing to pay for it. WHY
did you have her declawed rather than training her not to claw what you
don't want her to claw? It is easy enough to do.
KellyH - 20 Aug 2004 18:48 GMT
> Hi Group,
> Hope you can give me some advice.  About a month ago I took in a cat that
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>
> Brigitte

Arrrrrgggg!!!  Why did you have her declawed???
About the abscess, sometimes they take a while to completely drain and heal.
She may need to see the vet again.  Being on her backside is a bad location,
as it may be reinfected with fecal matter or litter.  After the vet looks at
it, keep doing your best to keep it clean.

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Brigitte - 20 Aug 2004 19:03 GMT
> > Hi Group,
> > Hope you can give me some advice.  About a month ago I took in a cat that
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> >
> > Brigitte

Hi Kelly,

> Arrrrrgggg!!!  Why did you have her declawed???

I would have preferred not getting her declawed, but because I have a blind
pug, and as you know, their eyes protrude and have no snout to speak of,
their eyes are "out there", so to speak,  so their eyes are probably more
susceptible to injury.  And being blind compounds that problem.

> About the abscess, sometimes they take a while to completely drain and heal.
> She may need to see the vet again.

I'll keep it as clean as possible and take her to the vet on Monday.

Being on her backside is a bad location,
> as it may be reinfected with fecal matter or litter.  After the vet looks at
> it, keep doing your best to keep it clean.

Thanks for your suggestions.

Brigitte
Mary - 20 Aug 2004 19:49 GMT
> I would have preferred not getting her declawed, but because I have a
blind pug, and as you know, their eyes protrude and have no snout to speak
of, their eyes are "out there", so to speak,  so their eyes are probably
more
> susceptible to injury.  And being blind compounds that problem.

Bridgett. Your pug is ALREADY BLIND. What did you think the cat was going to
do to his eyes?? Via your logic everyone with a sighted, bugeyed dog and a
cat needs to have the cat declawed. Ridiculous.
Brigitte - 20 Aug 2004 21:09 GMT
> > I would have preferred not getting her declawed, but because I have a
> blind pug, and as you know, their eyes protrude and have no snout to speak
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>
> Bridgett. Your pug is ALREADY BLIND.

There are other injuries that can occur to an eye besides blindness.

What did you think the cat was going to
> do to his eyes??

Cause further damage requiring the eye be removed.

Via your logic everyone with a sighted, bugeyed dog and a
> cat needs to have the cat declawed. Ridiculous.

You are entitled to your opinion, and I mine.

Brigitte
Mary - 20 Aug 2004 21:49 GMT
> > > I would have preferred not getting her declawed, but because I have a
> > blind pug, and as you know, their eyes protrude and have no snout to speak
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>
> Brigitte

You bet. I'd laugh if this weren't so sad for the cat.
KellyH - 20 Aug 2004 21:58 GMT
<snip>

> What did you think the cat was going to
> > do to his eyes??
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>
> Brigitte

You could have gotten the cat Soft Paws.  These are plastic caps that you
apply to each nail.  They are harmless to the cat, in fact, they hardly
notice they are there.  Read about them at www.softpaws.com  You could have
saved your cat's toes.  Did your vet even mention any of the negative
aspects of declawing?

I'm not saying your fear for the dog's safety is unwarranted, but were there
any incidents that caused such a drastic measure?

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Mary - 20 Aug 2004 22:09 GMT
> <snip>
> >
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> I'm not saying your fear for the dog's safety is unwarranted, but were there
> any incidents that caused such a drastic measure?

It doesn't really matter now, does it? It's done. She chose mutilation over
training or other methods. I'm sorry I said anything, especially considering
that Brigitte is probably sitting there thinking "well it was either declaw
or die at the pound."
Brigitte - 20 Aug 2004 23:36 GMT
> > <snip>
> > >
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> that Brigitte is probably sitting there thinking "well it was either declaw
> or die at the pound."

No, I'm not sitting here thinking that.  If I had not gone and retrieved
this cat from the bushes, where I believe she'd gone to die, it never would
have survived another day.  She was in horrible condition.  She wasn't even
able to stand.  I took her home and hand fed/watered her with a syringe for
a week.  Wormed her, removed the ticks and treated her for fleas and ticks.
She never would have made it at the pound.

Brigitte
Gail - 22 Aug 2004 02:10 GMT
It was wonderful that you rescued her.
Gail

> > > <snip>
> > > >
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>
> Brigitte
Brigitte - 20 Aug 2004 23:06 GMT
> <snip>
> >
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> I'm not saying your fear for the dog's safety is unwarranted, but were there
> any incidents that caused such a drastic measure?

Yes there were.  Our older pug had been injured by my other cat's claws last
year.  The pug nearly lost the sight in one eye from the incident.  The cat
had been trained to use a scratching post, but while playing with the dog,
inadvertantly scratched his eye.

Maybe there were other options available, but I'm not sure if they'd been as
effective.

Pugs are notorious for having eye problems because of the way they are
built.  It's not the dog's fault, it's not the cat's fault.

Brigitte
kaeli - 20 Aug 2004 20:39 GMT
> > Arrrrrgggg!!!  Why did you have her declawed???
>
> I would have preferred not getting her declawed, but because I have a blind
> pug, and as you know, their eyes protrude and have no snout to speak of,
> their eyes are "out there", so to speak,  so their eyes are probably more
> susceptible to injury.  And being blind compounds that problem.

Um, one's normal worry about the eyes is that one might BECOME blind.
To declaw a cat to prevent some remote possibility of a future injury to
another pet seems a bit extreme. I mean, it IS the amputation of the last
joint of the toe. Cats walk on their toes - like ballerinas. Try that trick.
Cut off the last joint of each of the toes of a ballerina and see how well
she does.

But hey, maybe that's just me. The idea of declawing makes me feel shuddery.

Anyway, hope your kitty gets better.

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PawsForThought - 21 Aug 2004 18:52 GMT
>From: "Brigitte" bas3@rocketmail.com

>I would have preferred not getting her declawed, but because I have a blind
>pug, and as you know, their eyes protrude and have no snout to speak of,
>their eyes are "out there", so to speak,  so their eyes are probably more
>susceptible to injury.  And being blind compounds that problem.

That's a really poor excuse for having the ends of the cat's toes amputated.
What are you going to do if that cat starts biting, remove its teeth?  Ugh!
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Mary - 21 Aug 2004 19:40 GMT
> >From: "Brigitte" bas3@rocketmail.com
>
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> What are you going to do if that cat starts biting, remove its teeth?  Ugh!
> ________

I think what was particularly upsetting was the contrast of'
"I saved this cat" and "I declawed this cat." I was all ready
for a happy story and then WHAM. And for what? To avoid
actually taking the effort to train the cat (or keep cats and dogs
separated) and to protect the eyes of a blind dog--which may
never have been in danger at all. It is upsetting.
Linda Terrell - 21 Aug 2004 20:03 GMT
> > >From: "Brigitte" bas3@rocketmail.com
> >
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> separated) and to protect the eyes of a blind dog--which may
> never have been in danger at all. It is upsetting.

For cry-eye sake people, he saved this cat's life!  He took in a
cat that would surely have died and is bringing it back to life
and health

And you slam this person for  declawing?

Get your priorities straight!

LT
Mary - 21 Aug 2004 20:49 GMT
> > > >From: "Brigitte" bas3@rocketmail.com
> > >
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>
> LT

Right. Would you rather be mutilated or outright killed?
Cathy Friedmann - 21 Aug 2004 21:04 GMT
> > > > >From: "Brigitte" bas3@rocketmail.com
> > > >
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>
> Right. Would you rather be mutilated or outright killed?

IMO, this is an absurd question.  Demelza, who was front-declawed when I
adopted her at approx. age 1 from the Humane Society is now 12, happy, &
healthy.  She was healthy & apparently happy enough at age 1, too - but on t
he thin side.

Being very much against declawing is one thing, but to suggest that
declawing completely negates the overall & general well-being of a cat who's
been adopted/rescued & now cared for, is ridiculous, IMO.

Cathy
Mary - 21 Aug 2004 21:25 GMT
> > "Linda Terrell" <lindat5@mindspring.com> wrote in message

news:epxRkhlUwRo0-pn2-EUQDZIxGYdyi@sdn-ap-004scfairP0321.dialsprint.net...

> > > > > >From: "Brigitte" bas3@rocketmail.com
> > > > >
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>
> Cathy

Cathy, I merely asked Linda if she would rather be mutilated or declawed.
It is not an absurd question, at all. It is a fair question. My point is,
there
are worse things than a humane death. Is declawing one of them? Well,
from a cat's point of view, maybe not. Unless you're a cat that finds
itself getting disembowelled by a dog it couldn't drive away with
a few well-placed slices to the nose.

The fact is, the OPs cat did not have to be declawed. The choice was
not "be declawed or die." The OP might have taken her, nursed her,
kept her separated from the pug and sent her to a shelter or attempted
to find a home for her. This "rescue" was declawed for the same reason
most cats are: convenience for the human.
Cathy Friedmann - 21 Aug 2004 22:26 GMT
> > > "Linda Terrell" <lindat5@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> > >
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>
> Cathy, I merely asked Linda if she would rather be mutilated or declawed.

You asked her if she'd rather be mutilated (by which I assume you meant
declawed or an equivalent) or outright killed.

> It is not an absurd question, at all. It is a fair question.

Well, maybe IYO.

My point is,
> there
> are worse things than a humane death. Is declawing one of them? Well,
> from a cat's point of view, maybe not.

I sincerely doubt killing a young cat would be preferable to front-declawing
at the same age.

Unless you're a cat that finds
> itself getting disembowelled by a dog it couldn't drive away with
> a few well-placed slices to the nose.

Which is one of the reasons (traffic being the #1 reason) why Demelza is an
indoor cat - except for access to the screened porch.  When I asked about
her history at the shelter, all they could tell me was that prior to being
picked up by the HS she'd been roaming the streets in a not-too-savory
neighborhood.

> The fact is, the OPs cat did not have to be declawed. The choice was
> not "be declawed or die." The OP might have taken her, nursed her,
> kept her separated from the pug and sent her to a shelter or attempted
> to find a home for her. This "rescue" was declawed for the same reason
> most cats are: convenience for the human.

Correct; I just think some of the replies went overboard, & slammed the
poster for one aspect of the rescue, instead of focusing on the problem of
the back-end sores not healing.

Cathy
Sherry - 21 Aug 2004 22:47 GMT
>Correct; I just think some of the replies went overboard, & slammed the
>poster for one aspect of the rescue, instead of focusing on the problem of
>the back-end sores not healing.
>
>Cathy

Even in this "infomation age" there are still so many people who honestly think
declaw is part of responsible pet ownership. Really. Sometimes they tell us
theyplan to get the cat *right away* to a vet for shots and declaw. It's like a
badge or something they are showing us to prove they plan to take care of it
and keep the cat indoors and protected or something. They honestly think it's
nothing more than a permanent manicure. There are plenty of vets, IMO, who
perpetuate that kind of thinking, too.

Sherry
PawsForThought - 22 Aug 2004 00:18 GMT
>From: sriddles@aol.comkitty  (Sherry )

>Even in this "infomation age" there are still so many people who honestly
>think
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>nothing more than a permanent manicure. There are plenty of vets, IMO, who
>perpetuate that kind of thinking, too.

Yes, this is true, unfortunately.  I hope the OP will at least research what
declawing really is and learn why some of us are so passionately against it.

Lauren
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Sherry - 22 Aug 2004 00:28 GMT
>Yes, this is true, unfortunately.  I hope the OP will at least research what
>declawing really is and learn why some of us are so passionately against it.
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>http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
>Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm

So do I. The link at the bottom of your sig is a great place to start.

Sherry
teri - 22 Aug 2004 02:50 GMT
>Right. Would you rather be mutilated or outright killed?
Wait a minute.  Surely you are not saying you would rather be dead.

My Uncle lost a leg in WWll.  He was under 20, now in his 70s.  I will
check with him and my Aunt and 5 cousins.  I think they would all
agree that they would rather be mutilated than killed.  
My Uncle is alive, so is the cat.  The OP saved it's life.  I am not
pro-declaw, but I applaude Brigitte for saving this cat's life.  I
have no advice about treating the wound, but I wish you well Brigitte,
and hope she heals up soon.  
Teri
Mary - 22 Aug 2004 03:03 GMT
> >Right. Would you rather be mutilated or outright killed?
> Wait a minute.  Surely you are not saying you would rather be dead.

I just asked the question. I think it is a good question.

> My Uncle lost a leg in WWll.  He was under 20, now in his 70s.  I will
> check with him and my Aunt and 5 cousins.  I think they would all
> agree that they would rather be mutilated than killed.
> My Uncle is alive, so is the cat.  The OP saved it's life.  I am not
> pro-declaw, but I applaude Brigitte for saving this cat's life.

On to another issue.Here is where your analogy falls down:
There was no avoiding your Uncle's loss of a leg once he went to war.
Brigitte could easily have saved this cat without paying to have her paws
mutilated.

If you were pulled from a burning buildng by a man who then
raped you, would you think it just that others commend the
man for saving you? Or should they condemn him for raping you,
and point out that the saving was a good thing, the raping not
so much.

I
> have no advice about treating the wound, but I wish you well Brigitte,
> and hope she heals up soon.
> Teri
Sherry - 22 Aug 2004 03:28 GMT
>>Right. Would you rather be mutilated or outright killed?
>Wait a minute.  Surely you are not saying you would rather be dead.
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>and hope she heals up soon.  
>Teri

Teri, I thought I remembered you as pro-declaw. I checked google, and while it
seems you're really not "pro", you're a little wishy-washy on the subject.  You
claim that every single person you know, with the exception of one, has
declawed indoor cats. You have two declawed cats. You write, "It's just what we
do here."
Perhaps this is the difference. Mary isn't wishy-washy; she takes a stand. So
does just about everybody else here. And truthfully, I can't for the life of me
understand how anyone could research the procedure and still be anything except
vehemently opposed declaw and ready to lobby against it.
I don't think Mary meant "mutilated or killed" to be taken literally. I think
it was an illustration of how ludicrous it is to suggest there has to be a
"choice."
The difference with your comparison is, your uncle's leg wasn't cut off for the
convenience of other family members.

Sherry
teri - 22 Aug 2004 22:52 GMT
>Teri, I thought I remembered you as pro-declaw.
you remembered incorrectly obviously. :-/

>I checked google,
Kewl, I am honored you went to the trouble.

>and while it
>seems you're really not "pro", you're a little wishy-washy on the subject.  
Not at all.  I have talked people out of it more than once.  But that
doesn't mean that I am going to call nasty names to the people who
have done it already.  Does no good at all, and I am not into
intentionally trying to hurt someone's feelings, doesn't change the
situation.  And I certainly wouldn't get on someone's case who had a
sick cat who's life they have saved, and they then had them declawed
too.  No one seemed to mention what a good and responsible thing it
was to have Brigitte's new cat spayed, that part got overlooked too.  
She just came here for help, and look what she got.  Fortunately some
people did have suggestions for her problem.
Hey, some people circumcize their little baby boys, it's just what
they do.  And man do those babies scream their bloody heads off while
they are velcro strapped down to the board.  Necessary?  No.  Routine?
Yes.

>Perhaps this is the difference. Mary isn't wishy-washy; she takes a stand. So
>does just about everybody else here. And truthfully, I can't for the life of me
>understand how anyone could research the procedure and still be anything except
>vehemently opposed declaw and ready to lobby against it.
The point is, it isn't necessary to bash someone and resort to
namecalling after the fact.  Education to prevent it is what is
needed.  

>I don't think Mary meant "mutilated or killed" to be taken literally.

to quote:
>>Right. Would you rather be mutilated or outright killed?
me?  mutilated, hence Uncle Thomas's story.
As far as the fire/rape - better raped and alive, than nonraped and
dead.
Teri.
Sherry - 22 Aug 2004 23:04 GMT
>>Teri, I thought I remembered you as pro-declaw.
>you remembered incorrectly obviously. :-/
>
>>I checked google,
>Kewl, I am honored you went to the trouble.

"Kewl", but you snipped a lot of my post. I'm very curious. Mostly about the
part that you said everybody you know, except one, has declawed cats. Why is
that?  Did they come that way?  I know very few people with declawed cats. Do
you ever wonder how our British friends manage to live without shredded skin,
shredded furniture, and de-eyeballed dogs?
I'm puzzled why you brought up the circumcision analogy. Why are you making
that comparison?  You seem to be building a case for "Declaw--It's as Routine
As Circumcision".

Sherry
Mary - 23 Aug 2004 00:04 GMT
> >>Teri, I thought I remembered you as pro-declaw.
> >you remembered incorrectly obviously. :-/
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> you ever wonder how our British friends manage to live without shredded skin,
> shredded furniture, and de-eyeballed dogs?

LOL!! "de-eyeballed dogs!"

"Yessiree, I think I'll take that doggy right there, but I want him
de-eyeballed
cuz I don't want him LOOKIN' at me."  :)
teri - 23 Aug 2004 01:10 GMT
>"Kewl", but you snipped a lot of my post. I'm very curious. Mostly about the
>part that you said everybody you know, except one, has declawed cats. Why is
>that?  Did they come that way?  I know very few people with declawed cats.
I am not sure why you are so curious, but I think you already know the
answer --  we don't know the same people!
You seem to want to beat me up now just because I *know* people who
have cats who are declawed.  I don't see the purpose in that unless
you are just looking for an argument.

Around here, in Berks County PA, and most people I know in a 50 mile
radius, when you talk about getting a cat, the question invariable
comes up, "is he/she declawed yet?"  
That was my only point.  It is not my position.  Like I have said, I
have talked people out of it, so I am doing my part.  
Currently the number of people in my county who don't know how to skip
a meal once in a while, then get gastric resections and die is a much
bigger problem, but that is something all together different.

>I'm puzzled why you brought up the circumcision analogy. Why are you making
>that comparison?  You seem to be building a case for "Declaw--It's as Routine
>As Circumcision".
Not building a case for as much as making you aware of it.

Want another analogy?  I have another Uncle who was killed by a
drunken driver, my best friend and her husband were killed by a
drunken driver.  I know people who regularly drink and drive.
According to your logic, I am all for driving drunk and killing
people.  Again, not true.

I am not going to write back on this because I AM ON YOUR SIDE.
Peace,
Teri
Sherry - 23 Aug 2004 01:45 GMT
>>"Kewl", but you snipped a lot of my post. I'm very curious. Mostly about the
>>part that you said everybody you know, except one, has declawed cats. Why is
>>that?  Did they come that way?  I know very few people with declawed cats.
>I am not sure why you are so curious, but I think you already know the
>answer --  we don't know the same people!

I'm curious because I'd say it's very unusual for *everybody except one* cat
owner that a person knows to be declawers. Maybe other posters here are in the
same situation you are. I just don't know. It just seems very skewed.  Maybe
it's a regional thing, and maybe that's why you keep making analagies to other
"routine & normal" procedures.

>You seem to want to beat me up now just because I *know* people who
>have cats who are declawed.  I don't see the purpose in that unless
>you are just looking for an argument.

Don't be silly. I'm not beating you up. I'm not even beating up the person who
declawed their cat in the original post. Nobody did. Declaw is a volatile
subject here, always has been, always will be. You can't expect people who
oppose so vehemently to play nicey-nice on the subject. You might stomp on
someone's "feelings", but I'll take any soapbox I can to raise awareness on the
subject.
Peace
Sherry

>Around here, in Berks County PA, and most people I know in a 50 mile
>radius, when you talk about getting a cat, the question invariable
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>Peace,
>Teri
Mary - 23 Aug 2004 01:45 GMT
> >"Kewl", but you snipped a lot of my post. I'm very curious. Mostly about
thepart that you said everybody you know, except one, has declawed cats. Why
is
> >that?  Did they come that way?  I know very few people with declawed
cats. I am not sure why you are so curious, but I think you already know the
answer --  we don't know the same people!
>[...]>
> Around here, in Berks County PA, and most people I know in a 50
mileradius, when you talk about getting a cat, the question invariable comes
up, "is he/she declawed yet?"

I know this part of PA well. There can be only one reason why the above is
true: sheer ignorance and/or unbridled soccer mom/boozy businessman dad
suburban materialism as in "the drapes are more important than the cat."

> I am not going to write back on this because I AM ON YOUR SIDE.
> Peace,
> Teri

Well that's cool. I guess. Or one hell of a backpedal.
Sherry - 23 Aug 2004 01:54 GMT
>I know this part of PA well. There can be only one reason why the above is
>true: sheer ignorance and/or unbridled soccer mom/boozy businessman dad
>suburban materialism as in "the drapes are more important than the cat."

I think those reasons in a nutshell are the usual reason for declaw.  And a
total disrespect for what inherently makes a cat a cat. But mostly what you
said, sheer ignorance and a belief that the procedure is "normal and routine."
And sheer selfishness. Oh, wait. I'm preaching to the choir.

Sherry
Mary - 23 Aug 2004 09:06 GMT
> >I know this part of PA well. There can be only one reason why the above is
> >true: sheer ignorance and/or unbridled soccer mom/boozy businessman dad
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> said, sheer ignorance and a belief that the procedure is "normal and routine."
> And sheer selfishness. Oh, wait. I'm preaching to the choir.

Yes, but we must recharge, after all. It helps me, anyway.
PawsForThought - 23 Aug 2004 00:57 GMT
>From: teri teric@enter.net

>The point is, it isn't necessary to bash someone and resort to
>namecalling after the fact.

What name was this person called?

>Hey, some people circumcize their little baby boys, it's just what
>they do.

Human baby boys do not walk on their penises.  Cats do in fact walk on the part
of the toe that is amputated.  Cats are digitigrade, meaning they walk on their
toes.  When a cat is declawed, this part of the toe is amputated.

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Sherry - 21 Aug 2004 22:50 GMT
>For cry-eye sake people, he saved this cat's life!  He took in a
>cat that would surely have died and is bringing it back to life
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>LT

Well, our shelter, and every other shelter I am personally familiar with,
refuses to adopt to people with intent to declaw. Most responsible breeders
likewise. Declaw is actually illegal in most countries except the US and
Canada. How's that for priorities?

Sherry
Linda Terrell - 22 Aug 2004 17:44 GMT
> >For cry-eye sake people, he saved this cat's life!  He took in a
> >cat that would surely have died and is bringing it back to life
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> Sherry

The PRIORITY was SAVING THE CAT'S LIFE!

And I am thankful he did so.

And so probably is the cat.

LT
Sherry - 22 Aug 2004 17:55 GMT
>> Well, our shelter, and every other shelter I am personally familiar with,
>> refuses to adopt to people with intent to declaw. Most responsible breeders
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>LT

You act like the cat had a cancerous leg amputated to save its life. Yeah, in
that case, saving its life is priority; losing the leg is an unfortunate price
that had to be paid.
Except here, it wasn't mandatory. She didn't have to mutilate it to save its
life. She chose to.

Sherry
PawsForThought - 22 Aug 2004 00:20 GMT
>From: "Linda Terrell" lindat5@mindspring.com

>For cry-eye sake people, he saved this cat's life!  He took in a
>cat that would surely have died and is bringing it back to life
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>
>Get your priorities straight!

So because someone gives a cat a home that entitles them to have it mutilated?
Ugh.  I hope in this particular case it was just because the OP wasn't informed
that declawing is amputation of the last digit on each toe and extremely cruel
to the cat.

Lauren
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PawsForThought - 21 Aug 2004 18:50 GMT
>From: "KellyH" Kelly@whatever.com

>Arrrrrgggg!!!  Why did you have her declawed???

That's what I was thinking.  Disgusting!!  Poor kitty :(
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Cathy Friedmann - 20 Aug 2004 18:48 GMT
I'd take her back to the vet if it's refusing to heal.

(Glad you took her in, since the other person wasn't caring for her.)

Cathy

> Hi Group,
> Hope you can give me some advice.  About a month ago I took in a cat that
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>
> Brigitte
kaeli - 20 Aug 2004 19:14 GMT
> It had been healing nicely, but after 2 weeks she must have began
> licking/chewing on it, cuz now it's reopened and oozing puss and blood
> again.

If it is oozing puss, it is infected. She probably reopened it herself to try
to drain it. Sometimes animals know things. Take her back to the vet.

As someone who has been unfortunate enough to know what having an abscess is
like, I can tell you that sometimes some infection stays in there and they
get re-infected AFTER they close. Then they need reopened and redrained.

So, vet time. And ask about oral antibiotics if she wasn't on them, and test
her for auto-immune diseases if she hasn't been (FIV/FeLV).

> I've had her spayed and declawed

Kudos to you for taking her in, but it isn't very nice to have someone remove
the last joint of every finger/toe on your cat. I sure hope you only had the
front done. And I hope you did it because you didn't know how horrible it was
or how easy it usually is to train them to scratch a post.
Shame on your vet if (s)he didn't tell you what the procedure really is. More
shame that (s)he even did it at all.

Purrs to the kitty and I hope she feels better.

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Wendy - 20 Aug 2004 23:47 GMT
> Hi Group,
> Hope you can give me some advice.  About a month ago I took in a cat that
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>
> Brigitte

At this point there is nothing you can do at home except keep it clean until
you can get her in to see the vet again. She might need antibiotics and will
probably need the abscess cleaned out again. An abscess must heal from the
inside out. If the outside closes over before the inside is healed the
infection just festers again and you're back where you started. The location
of the wound isn't helping either.

W
Brigitte - 21 Aug 2004 00:03 GMT
> > Hi Group,
> > Hope you can give me some advice.  About a month ago I took in a cat that
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>
> W

Wendy,
Thanks.  I'm doing just as you suggest.

Brigitte
Sherry - 20 Aug 2004 23:50 GMT
>Hi Group,
>Hope you can give me some advice.  About a month ago I took in a cat that
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>
>Brigitte

Check with your vet about peroxide; in humans, peroxide is a no-no for anything
except the initial cleaning of a wound. Because as peroxide kills the bacteria,
it also kills the new cells that are trying to form in the healing process. And
it may need to be debrided if it's healing on the outside and not on the
inside. Sometimes abscesses have to have a "wick" inserted or opened back up so
they can drain again. You didn't mention if you'd called the vet again, but it
sounds like that might be a good idea.
It's sad that she was declawed. I hope she is one of the lucky ones and doesn't
suffer any complications.
Good luck.

Sherry
~*Connie*~ - 22 Aug 2004 21:53 GMT
I don't see where the cat is on antibiotics.   I would highly recommend
them.
> Hi Group,
> Hope you can give me some advice.  About a month ago I took in a cat that
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>
> Brigitte
Brigitte - 23 Aug 2004 05:02 GMT
> I don't see where the cat is on antibiotics.   I would highly recommend
> them.

Hi Connie,
I started her on antibiotics Friday evening.  I'm keeping the wound clean
and putting antibiotic topical treatment as well.  I think all will be well
in about 2 weeks, after the course of antibiotics has completed.

Brigitte

> > Hi Group,
> > Hope you can give me some advice.  About a month ago I took in a cat that
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> >
> > Brigitte
 
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