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Jackie - New test results

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dgk - 17 Aug 2004 13:45 GMT
She was off Pred and antibiotics for a week, after three weeks on, so
yesterday we took a few tests. All the chemistry results are normal
but her WBC count is up to 51,000. 16,000 is normal and she was at
42,000 before going on the Pred and AB. She did gain a pound since I
got her about three months ago.

We still don't know if the WBC is because of an infection or leukemia.
Her teeth are bad and she has sores on the back of her throat. She is
going back on Pred and AB today and we'll do another CBC in a week or
so. Then, armed with this news, I'll take her off to the Vet
specialists where we decide the next step.

The good news is that she has gone from five to six pounds. Still not
exactly big but no longer just a bag of bones. Well, that's the
update.
Karen - 17 Aug 2004 20:47 GMT
Well, I would think that bad teeth alone could lead to a high WBC. Good news
she has gained weight!

> She was off Pred and antibiotics for a week, after three weeks on, so
> yesterday we took a few tests. All the chemistry results are normal
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> exactly big but no longer just a bag of bones. Well, that's the
> update.
Cathy Friedmann - 17 Aug 2004 20:58 GMT
I'm still wondering about that, too - if the infected teeth, perhaps along
w/ whatever the infection in her throat is, is accounting for the high WBC.
Is the vet amenable to doing a dental on her at this point?

Cathy

> Well, I would think that bad teeth alone could lead to a high WBC. Good news
> she has gained weight!
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> > exactly big but no longer just a bag of bones. Well, that's the
> > update.
MacCandace - 18 Aug 2004 07:03 GMT
<< Well, I would think that bad teeth alone could lead to a high WBC. Good news
she has gained weight! >>

I agree on both counts.  My late cat had bad teeth when he was 13 (lived to 18)
and just did not get over a chronic infection until he had a dental despite
several months of abx.  Then he was fine.

Candace
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dgk - 18 Aug 2004 13:27 GMT
><< Well, I would think that bad teeth alone could lead to a high WBC. Good news
>she has gained weight! >>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
>than human."  (Loren Eisely)

Ok, well you and Cathy have answered my separate post about the high
WBC count possibly being from just the teeth. I don't know if she has
Leukemia or IBD or just bad teeth.

The problem is that my Vet does not want to put her under until she is
in better shape. However, I asked about whether it would be better to
take her out to the Long Island Vet Specialists for the procedure and
he said sure. So that is sort of the plan. We get one more CBC while
she is on the antibiotics (we switched from Amox to Clav) and
Prednisone just to get a further idea what is going on, and then I
likely take her out for LIVS's take on the subject. They're the pros.
It will cost quite a bit more but I want her to have every chance. I
can always eat a bit less...
Cathy Friedmann - 18 Aug 2004 15:04 GMT
> ><< Well, I would think that bad teeth alone could lead to a high WBC. Good news
> >she has gained weight! >>
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> It will cost quite a bit more but I want her to have every chance. I
> can always eat a bit less...

Tomtato soup can be eaten w/ grated cheese, croutons, or crackers.  ;-)

Seriously, this sounds like a good plan, to see a specialist.  It *may* be
that the risks associated w/ a dental would be worth it in light of Jackie's
infection(s), to possibly get her feeling better, & just plain better - not
only clinically, but as far as her blood work, too.

Cathy
dgk - 18 Aug 2004 17:33 GMT
>> Ok, well you and Cathy have answered my separate post about the high
>> WBC count possibly being from just the teeth. I don't know if she has
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>
>Cathy

She does this weird thing when she's eating sometimes. Suddenly she'll
make a noise and toss her head from side to side, chewing like she was
trying to find a comfortable spot. Then she'll stagger drunkenly away
from the food and down the hall. Well, except that's the normal way
she walks. According to the vet she has lost a great deal of muscle in
the rear end and she just walks funny.

Anyway, there is clearly something in that mouth bothering her a great
deal and I am going to love having it taken care of. Hopefully she
will survive it.
 
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