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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / August 2004Cat not eating update
Cat still not eating much. Got the full blood test today and the results show, according to the vet, a liver infection that is also affecting the kidneys. He gave us a pill to give once a day that is supposed to help the liver(Denosyl). Also special food to give the cat. Waltham's Renal LP veterinary diet, both pouch and dry. Have put both down but so far the cat isn't interested. Hopefully the pill will start working soon to start on the liver then maybe he will get to feeling like eating. Hopefully. See how it looks in a day or two. If no improvement in two days, I think maybe better get another vets opinion.  SignaturePaul O. oplholik@hotmail.com In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", "Paul O." <oplholik@hotmail.com> artfully composed this message within <news:aXaUc.4086$QJ3.22@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> on 16 Aug 2004: > Cat still not eating much. Got the full blood test today and the > results show, according to the vet, a liver infection that is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > how it looks in a day or two. If no improvement in two days, I > think maybe better get another vets opinion. Hi Paul. I'm glad you got the Denosyl. It helped my kitty when he had hepatic lipidosis which is what brings my post to you. The pill alone isn't going to help his liver heal, he needs food to do that. I know, it isn't easy to get him to eat but the only thing that is going to help is that his calorie intake at least equals his energy needs, and best if it exceeds it. The more body fat that his liver has to try to process, the worse his liver is going to get. Good luck and try to get something into him. Hills AD maybe? I see he was given Renal food so AD may not apply; I'm sorry I've missed some of your story. Good luck! SignatureCheryl "> <oplholik@hotmail.com> artfully composed this message within > <news:aXaUc.4086$QJ3.22@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> on 16 Aug > 2004: > > > Cat still not eating much. > > Hi Paul. I'm glad you got the Denosyl. It helped my kitty when he > had hepatic lipidosis which is what brings my post to you. The pill [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > -- Had the wife put a pouch of the food in the blender with a little water and pureed it. If he won't eat that way will force it down using a syringe. SignaturePaul O. Absolutely clueless when it comes to cats oplholik@hotmail.com > Cheryl > <oplholik@hotmail.com> artfully composed this message within > <news:aXaUc.4086$QJ3.22@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> on 16 Aug > 2004: > > > Cat still not eating much. > > Hi Paul. I'm glad you got the Denosyl. It helped my kitty when he > had hepatic lipidosis which is what brings my post to you. The pill > alone isn't going to help his liver heal, he needs food to do that. > Good luck! > > Cheryl The vet said he isn't too worried yet about the liver disease, yet. According to the tests he isn't there yet but headed that way. Just gave the first installment of the food pureed with the syringe. The vet said a pouch a day, it ain't gonna be fun, but gotta do it. I don't want to cram a pouch down him all at once so the wife is gonna have to try and get some down him by herself during the day. Don't envy her that. Also she is going to try a few bites of chicken just for something solid. Don't want to fill him up on that cause he is supposed to be eating the other stuff. SignaturePaul O. Absolutely clueless when it comes to cats oplholik@hotmail.com I don't want to scare you but having a cat not eat for even a few days can be dangerous. This was the case with my cat, who developed fatty liver disease. It happened awfully quick and she had only lost a tiny portion of her body weight (less then 5%). I had her hospitalized for 4 days and for a month had to feed her through feeding tube going down her esophugus. Barring any other problems with your cat that are affecting his appetite, I know my vet had prescribed something to stimulate appetite and get her eating on her own again, I think it was an antihisimene? Good luck << Barring any other problems with your cat that are affecting his appetite, I know my vet had prescribed something to stimulate appetite and get her eating on her own again, I think it was an antihisimene? >> Cyproheptadine, it is an antihistamine but acts as an appetite stimulant for cats. Very few side effects. It always worked for my late cat, Cory. Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely) <snipped> > Barring any other problems with your cat that are affecting his appetite, I > know my vet had prescribed something to stimulate appetite and get her eating > on her own again, I think it was an antihisimene? Yes; it's Periactin - generic name is cyproheptadine. Sometimes it's contraindicated for liver probs, but if not, it can work quite well. My cat used it; she had liver disease, but getting her to eat was more beneficial that the potential adverse side effects of the med. As it turned out, no adverse effects. Cathy >From: "Cathy Friedmann" clfr@adelphia.net >Yes; it's Periactin - generic name is cyproheptadine. > >Sometimes it's contraindicated for liver probs, but if not, it can work >quite well. My cat used it; she had liver disease, but getting her to eat >was more beneficial that the potential adverse side effects of the med. As >it turned out, no adverse effects. I just posted about this before I read your post. My cat was given this too. It did perk up her appetite for a couple of days but then it stopped working. But I think by that time, the CRF had progressed too much. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm >From: daniellay@aol.com (DaniellaY) >Barring any other problems with your cat that are affecting his appetite, I >know my vet had prescribed something to stimulate appetite and get her eating >on her own again, I think it was an antihisimene? Periactin maybe? My cat who had CRF was prescribed this to boost her appetite. It worked temporarily. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecatjournal.com/articles/claws.htm >I think it was an antihisimene? > >Periactin maybe? Ciproheptadine? I had it prescribed for me for allergies and my cat for appetite stimulant, back in the late early 90's. Janet Boss http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com/ http://photos.yahoo.com/bestfriendsobedience > Cat still not eating much. Got the full blood test today and the results > show, according to the vet, a liver infection that is also affecting the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > looks in a day or two. If no improvement in two days, I think maybe better > get another vets opinion. pretty good about it. The wife has to hold him in her lap and he does not fight too much, no scratching, or trying to bite. Just tries to pull his head back and sticks out a paw to push away my hand. So guess we will be able to get it done. One pouch a day as the vet said is only about 3-4 syringes full. SignaturePaul O. Absolutely clueless when it comes to cats oplholik@hotmail.com The wife today managed to get 2 syringes full down the cat today by herself. We gave him another one when I got home. She also boiled some chicken today, really likes that. So put a little in the pureed food in a bowl and he really started scarfing on that. Supposed to be giving him a cup a day of this food, can't imagine being able to syringe that much down him. But hopefully,fingers crossed, with a little chicken in it he will eat that much by himself ,or close enough to, so that we can take care of the rest with the syringe. SignaturePaul O. Absolutely clueless when it comes to cats oplholik@hotmail.com In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", "Paul O." <oplholik@hotmail.com> artfully composed this message within <news:ikvUc.5311$P96.3132@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com> on 17 Aug 2004: > The wife today managed to get 2 syringes full down the cat today > by herself. We gave him another one when I got home. She also [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > eat that much by himself ,or close enough to, so that we can > take care of the rest with the syringe. That is great! I was just reading your messages from last night and was wondering how he was doing. > Paul O. > Absolutely clueless when it comes to cats In no time at all, you're going to be disproving this sig line. :) A lot of this stuff is instinct. When you have facts such as "cats will get really really sick if they don't eat" you go with your instinct and get food in and you have just added knowledge about your furry friend's well being. :)) SignatureCheryl > > Supposed to be giving him a cup a day of this food, can't > > imagine being able to syringe that much down him. > Come to think of it, I don't think he has ever ate a cup of anything in a day. He is an indoor inactive cat. SignaturePaul O. Absolutely clueless when it comes to cats oplholik@hotmail.com In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", "Paul O." <oplholik@hotmail.com> artfully composed this message within <news:YOvUc.7158$fm.4076@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com> on 17 Aug 2004: >> > Supposed to be giving him a cup a day of this food, can't >> > imagine being able to syringe that much down him. > > > Come to think of it, I don't think he has ever ate a cup of > anything in a day. He is an indoor inactive cat. For convalescing cats, more calories are required. For example, cancer or post-op patients need more calories to burn in order to heal. I hope Phil or someone can chime in to explain it better. SignatureCheryl My Vet just suggested "seasoning" the cat's food with clam juice to make it more appealing. I'm on my way out to buy clam juice. Sorry I'm joining this thread late, but have you tried this kind of food they have for cats that won't eat for various reasons, we used it on one of our cats that had kidney failure, it did help pick up her appetite so she would eat without the forced feeding. I'll try to find the name of it we just called it "cat candy" whenever we ordered it from the vet. It may be a Waltham's product. I'll ask my roomate when she returns home from work. > In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", "Paul O." > <oplholik@hotmail.com> artfully composed this message within [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > -- > Cheryl > The wife today managed to get 2 syringes full down the cat today by herself. > We gave him another one when I got home. She also boiled some chicken today, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > by himself ,or close enough to, so that we can take care of the rest with > the syringe. Besides possibly getting another vet's opinion if no progress soon (good idea, IMO, & if there's an internist anywhere near you, even better), you could ask the vet if Hill's Prescription Diet a/d would be another appropriate food for your cat & his condition(s). Not instead of the food already prescribed, but in addition to, to get enough into him, perhaps by tempting him via the small/taste. a/d is a wet food, loaded w/calories, & is a super-fine consistency made especially for sick or convalescing animals incl. syringe feeding. Many cats like it well enough to eat it without the syringe. (When I used to give it to my chronically ill cat when she hit an appetite slump, my other cats wanted some as a treat.) It may not be appropriate, but worth a try asking, IMO. Cathy > Absolutely clueless when it comes to cats P.S. You're going to have to change this sig eventually, even if by increments. ;-) Paul O. <oplholik@hotmail.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > The wife today managed to get 2 syringes full down the cat today > by herself. We gave him another one when I got home. She also [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > himself ,or close enough to, so that we can take care of the rest > with the syringe. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but if the kitty is having kidney trouble, the straight meat isn't very good for it. My vet said if Kami doesn't eat the baby food is okay for a teaser, but it's way too high in protein for suffering kidneys. SignatureBrandy??Alexandre? http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? I understand what you're saying but for me, it always came to this question, do I feed my cat something that isn't the best he could eat right now or let him starve making the CRF even worse. I've had many vet opinions on this and they all say the same, get any kind of food in the cat once it reaches that point just to be sure the cat's body has something to meatbolize. Once their appetite picks up go back to the proper food. > Paul O. <oplholik@hotmail.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx > Well, would you? > I understand what you're saying but for me, it always came to this question, > do I feed my cat something that isn't the best he could eat right now or let > him starve making the CRF even worse. I've had many vet opinions on this > and they all say the same, get any kind of food in the cat once it reaches > that point just to be sure the cat's body has something to meatbolize. Once > their appetite picks up go back to the proper food. That is what my vet says. She says she tried being strict about diet for CRF cats for a long time but came to the conclusion it is much better that they eat SOMETHING than what is prescribed. > > I understand what you're saying but for me, it always came to this question, > > do I feed my cat something that isn't the best he could eat right now or let [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > cats for a long time but came to the conclusion it is much better that they > eat SOMETHING than what is prescribed. Yep, my vet concurs w/this, too. Cathy Cathy Friedmann <clfr@adelphia.net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> > I understand what you're saying but for me, it always came to >> > this [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Cathy Along those lines, I got a few pouches of the Waltham Renal and Kami immediate turned up her nose to it. I admit it's kind of stinky, like bad yeast or something. Anyway, it's the texture she likes, so I mixed it with her regular food. She ate that just fine. I figure it's better to get half the prescription diet than none at all. SignatureBrandy??Alexandre? http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? > Along those lines, I got a few pouches of the Waltham Renal and Kami > immediate turned up her nose to it. I admit it's kind of stinky, like > bad yeast or something. Anyway, it's the texture she likes, so I mixed > it with her regular food. She ate that just fine. I figure it's > better to get half the prescription diet than none at all. Definitely. My CRF cat liked Purina nf for a while, but then decided it was as bad as k/d, IHO. So I went back to her regular food (SD & Royal Canin), which she would eat. Cathy > > Along those lines, I got a few pouches of the Waltham Renal and Kami > > immediate turned up her nose to it. I admit it's kind of stinky, like [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >So far the only way he eats anything on his own is if I put cut up boiled chicken in it, so we are force feeding him mostly. He will eat a little of the prescribed food on his own in the morning and then again later in the afternoon with the chicken in it. But he is getting the 1 cup a day one way or the other. SignaturePaul O. Absolutely clueless when it comes to cats oplholik@hotmail.com Cathy Friedmann <clfr@adelphia.net> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: >> Along those lines, I got a few pouches of the Waltham Renal and >> Kami immediate turned up her nose to it. I admit it's kind of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Cathy If you look at the Science Diet Senior, the values are so close to the prescription compared to other high-end senior foods. So with Kami willing to eat half SD Savory Cuts and half Renal LP, I think we're a small step ahead of the crowd. She gets her dental done Tuesday. Wish us luck. Her new vet seems to really understand the ballet she has to do between anesthesia, heart murmur, and CRF. She's getting antibiotics three day beforehand, and a small dose of sub-q before going under. Should work out and then I won't have to hold my breath for kisses anymore. LOL! SignatureBrandy??Alexandre? http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? Paul O. <oplholik@hotmail.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav: > Cat still not eating much. Got the full blood test today and the > results show, according to the vet, a liver infection that is also [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > a day or two. If no improvement in two days, I think maybe better > get another vets opinion. Darn it! I have been waiting and waiting for my vet to get the Renal LP in. There distributor has had it backordered forever. SignatureBrandy??Alexandre? http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx Well, would you? > Cat still not eating much. Got the full blood test today and the results > show, according to the vet, a liver infection that is also affecting the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > looks in a day or two. If no improvement in two days, I think maybe better > get another vets opinion. him. He's getting about 1/2 of it on his own with boiled chicken in it , the other 1/2 is forced down. How long is this likely to have to be done. I know the vet said he would call in about 2 weeks to see how the cat is doing, so will find out then I suppose, or I know I can call, but they are so busy there. My concern now, in thinking ahead, is how to keep him eating in the future. It's so damned hard trying to find something he will eat and not get tired of. Guess his current diet is one option, the only reason he eats that is for the boiled chicken I put in it, and that doesn't mean he will eat anything with the boiled chicken. And what to do when he decides he is tired of the boiled chicken? But I guess that road will have to be crossed when we get to it. Thanks. SignaturePaul O. Absolutely clueless when it comes to cats oplholik@hotmail.com In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", "Paul O." <oplholik@hotmail.com> artfully composed this message within <news:t90Wc.10145$St5.7386@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com> on 22 Aug 2004: >>The cat is doing better. Getting a cup a day of the prescribed >>food down [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > weeks to see how the cat is doing, so will find out then I > suppose Glad he is doing better and mostly eating on his own. I'm sure the vet will tell you that once he's feeling better and not at risk for liver disease, that you can decrease the food to the amount needed for maintenance. :) Let us know, ok? SignatureCheryl |
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