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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / August 2004Cat Rescued
I was wondering if anyone has ever seen a mixed breed cat with a bobtail before? Today, I came across a cat that looks to be a Ocicat, possibly a Bengal mix with a bushy tail (a stub possibly, it looked like his tail got cut off and they left a bushy part). He looked to be abandoned and the complex office was kind enough to allow him to stay in the clubhouse for the night (one of the people that works there is a cat person). I brought over some food, cat litter and a litter box so he had the basics for the night. The office person and another resident had put food and water outside previously but with a storm on its way I thought the cat was probably better off in the clubhouse where it is air conditioned (yes it is hot and humid in Phoenix) and it even has a TV so I put on the Olympics so he could watch. I have contacted various rescue groups in the Phoenix area to see if they have room for this sweet cat. He is a beautiful cat and he was crying a lot. The Arizona heat is not a great place for felines to be outdoors and he was panting quite a bit. This cat looked to be around 5 months old and in good spirits despite being a bit on the thin side. Did you contact HALO? Helping Animals Live On? They are the ones that use Petsmart to adopt their cats out and who we adopted our most recent cat from. They take animals from the euthanasia list at the pound but they also get animals all sorts of other ways, including owner turn-ins and strays off the street. There's a contact email on the website but I don't think you can call them, I think you have to email them. http://www.halorescue.org/ And how about that shelter that you work with sometimes, can't they help you? Sun Valley. Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely) I emailed HALO and am awaiting response back. It was after 5 pm when the cat was found. Sun Valley has also been contacted but they seem to have put more into rescuing cats through the New Hope Program. Last time I contacted them about a possible rescue they said they were only taking in cats on the New Hope list. The main thing right now is the cat is safe from the storm and the hot weather. > Did you contact HALO? Helping Animals Live On? They are the ones that use > Petsmart to adopt their cats out and who we adopted our most recent cat from. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other > than human." (Loren Eisely) Well here is an update on the cat I rescued. His name kind of came to me last night so I am calling him Icarus after the Greek demi-god that flew too close to the sun melting his wax wings. The complex management said they did not want him in the clubhouse. The office worker that allowed him to stay there last night was not willing to take him home with her. Apparently she had a lot of excuses not to such as being worried about her other cat, not being home, etc, etc. I informed her that if she kept the cat in the bathroom seperated from her other cat with food, water and litterbox, that it would be just fine. This still did not change her mind despite her feeling that it might be good to adopt another cat to keep her other cat company since she said she isn't home much. Long story short I took the cat in for the night and hopefully can get him placed in a no-kill (as full as a lot of them have become as a result of cat and kitten season) as I am still waiting to hear back from a few of them. I placed Icarus in my bathroom with the light on (I am going to try to get a night light to save on energy). He also has food, water and a litterbox. Isis and Jade were hovering outside the door and I think Isis was trying to swipe at him from underneath the door. Jade also was in the area as well. I have yet to hear any hissing. I placed a couple of towels underneath the door to reduce cats swiping at each other. He has front claws so this could get interesting. He is somewhat thin so this might also be an abandonment issue. He is crying a lot but has calmed down in spots. One person from this newsgroup contacted me and might be willing to take him in as she has 5 cats. He may need to be spayed and checked out for the usual like FELV, FIV and the other stuff. Is there anything else I can do for him? I think the best thing about him is he is safe. I am rather upset with the management though. <snip> > One person from this newsgroup contacted me and might be willing to take him > in as she has 5 cats. He may need to be spayed and checked out for the usual > like FELV, FIV and the other stuff. Is there anything else I can do for him? > I think the best thing about him is he is safe. I am rather upset with the > management though. Take him to the vet and get him tested for FeLV and FIV first, and have them check to see if he is neutered. You can usually tell if an adult male is intact by his head size and smell. If he is not neutered, then get him neutered ASAP. If you can do this, and get his FVRCP and rabies vaccines (DON'T get FeLV vacc, this may cause the cat to test positive!), I bet the rescue group will be able to get him in that much quicker. That is a lot of stuff and expense that they don't have to do. By the way, you don't need to keep the light on in the bathroom. I'm sure he would like it to be dark at night like normal.  Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net www.kelltek.com Check out www.snittens.com I am still awaiting word from a couple of rescues though. I don't think you can tell if a cat has been fixed on whether or not their head is larger so I have no clue where you got that info. He hasn't sprayed so it is possible that he was neutered. I put a night light in the bathroom for him and have a CD player going with some music so he has something to listen to and keep calm. He is also purring. > Take him to the vet and get him tested for FeLV and FIV first, and have them > check to see if he is neutered. You can usually tell if an adult male is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > By the way, you don't need to keep the light on in the bathroom. I'm sure > he would like it to be dark at night like normal. > I am still awaiting word from a couple of rescues though. I don't think you > can tell if a cat has been fixed on whether or not their head is larger so I > have no clue where you got that info. He hasn't sprayed so it is possible > that he was neutered. I put a night light in the bathroom for him and have a > CD player going with some music so he has something to listen to and keep > calm. He is also purring. An intact, adult male will usually have a large head because they develop fat pads, or jowls. I don't know why you had to act like I have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm pretty good at telling the difference between an intact tom and a neutered male. I'm guessing that he probably is neutered since he hasn't sprayed. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net www.kelltek.com Check out www.snittens.com > > Take him to the vet and get him tested for FeLV and FIV first, and have > them [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > By the way, you don't need to keep the light on in the bathroom. I'm sure > > he would like it to be dark at night like normal. >> I am still awaiting word from a couple of rescues though. I don't think >you [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >intact tom and a neutered male. >I'm guessing that he probably is neutered since he hasn't sprayed. Also if there are not two furry things hanging between his legs he is neutered. :) > >I'm guessing that he probably is neutered since he hasn't sprayed. > Also if there are not two furry things hanging between his legs he is > neutered. :) hehe... yes. Neutered guys still have the "sacks" but they are empty. One of my guys still looks like he has his, but he's such a wuss there's no way. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net www.kelltek.com Check out www.snittens.com >> >I'm guessing that he probably is neutered since he hasn't sprayed. >> Also if there are not two furry things hanging between his legs he is >> neutered. :) > >hehe... yes. Neutered guys still have the "sacks" but they are empty. One >of my guys still looks like he has his, but he's such a wuss there's no way. LOL! > > I am still awaiting word from a couple of rescues though. I don't think > you [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > intact tom and a neutered male. > I'm guessing that he probably is neutered since he hasn't sprayed. Cat could have been neutered after maturity, so will have the Tommy head but no testes. Also, neutered cats sometimes will continue to spray, too, so spraying isn't always an indication of neutering. (But I will concede that *most* do not spray after neutering and *most* Tommy-headed cats are intact males...) -L. (Former guardian to a Tommy-headed orange boy who was neutered at a year and still sprayed every day to mark his territory outdoors.) There has been a new twist in this whole scenario. I now have Jade and Isis hissing at each other and none of them have been in direct contact with the other cat. Jade rubbed up against my pant leg but the other cat did so too so Jade must now have a mixed scent. Should I be concerned here? I have tried in every way to reduce the hissing. Is there any way to solve this? > There has been a new twist in this whole scenario. I now have Jade and Isis > hissing at each other and none of them have been in direct contact with the > other cat. Jade rubbed up against my pant leg but the other cat did so too > so Jade must now have a mixed scent. Should I be concerned here? I have > tried in every way to reduce the hissing. Is there any way to solve this? They'll be fine. They are probably reacting to the other cat's presence. If I had a dollar for every time my cats hissed at each other, I'd be rich. As long as they aren't outright fighting, I wouldn't be concerned. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net www.kelltek.com Check out www.snittens.com Well the hissing with Isis and Jade is continuing this morning. I am hoping to get the other feline to a rescue today. Hopefully someone will take him in. This morning he was crying and Isis was near the bathroom door hissing which is understandable. It doesn't look like Isis or Jade want another cat around right now. He is a sweet cat though. > They'll be fine. They are probably reacting to the other cat's presence. > If I had a dollar for every time my cats hissed at each other, I'd be rich. > As long as they aren't outright fighting, I wouldn't be concerned. > There has been a new twist in this whole scenario. I now have Jade and Isis > hissing at each other and none of them have been in direct contact with the > other cat. Jade rubbed up against my pant leg but the other cat did so too > so Jade must now have a mixed scent. Should I be concerned here? I have > tried in every way to reduce the hissing. Is there any way to solve this? They're just hissing and he will not be with you long. What is the problem? > Cat could have been neutered after maturity, so will have the Tommy > head but no testes. Also, neutered cats sometimes will continue to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > (Former guardian to a Tommy-headed orange boy who was neutered at a > year and still sprayed every day to mark his territory outdoors.) Yes, that's true. I was thinking about "in general", like when we get the strays in at the shelter and you can just tell who's an unneutered tom at sight. We get big-headed , neutered Toms sometimes from one of the feral TNR people who brings us the friendlys he traps. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net www.kelltek.com Check out www.snittens.com > > > I am still awaiting word from a couple of rescues though. I don't think > > you [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > intact tom and a neutered male. > > I'm guessing that he probably is neutered since he hasn't sprayed. > (But I will concede that *most* do not spray after neutering and *most* > Tommy-headed cats are intact males...) Yes, and yes. > (Former guardian to a Tommy-headed orange boy who was neutered at a year > and still sprayed every day to mark his territory outdoors.) My bighead orange boy was neutered at age four, and stopped spraying. For those who want to see a picture of Icarus, I posted it on the Cat Galaxy Web Site. Hopefully we'll get listeners and viewers to donate so we can have him checked out at a vet. Right now it seems that Isis and Jade have stopped hissing at each other so apparently they know each others scent again. Last night I didn't get a lot of sleep as I was playing referee trying to keep them away from the bathroom door and at the same time to calm them all down. I got an extra bag of cat litter and scooped out Icarus' litterbox. I feel really bad for this kitty having to stay in the bathroom. He purrs whenever I come into the bathroom. He also just wants to be out but he may have to stay in there for a week which was the same amount of time Jade spent in there but he has an unknown history as far as vets go. I have been emailing every group and humans I can think of to see if I can get help. Hopefully, I'll be able to get him whatever help he needs. > For those who want to see a picture of Icarus, I posted it on the Cat Galaxy > Web Site. Hopefully we'll get listeners and viewers to donate so we can have [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > every group and humans I can think of to see if I can get help. Hopefully, > I'll be able to get him whatever help he needs. Can you set something up so the money goes right to the vet office? No offense, but I don't know you from a hole in the ground. Have you put up any fliers like Sherry suggested? He may simply be lost. Can you take him to the vet and put it on a credit card if you don't have the money right now? A simple look-see and FeLV/FIV test doesn't cost that much. I almost always have a foster in the bathroom or the guest room. They are fine, as long as you visit frequently. Put a towel along the crack at the bottom of the door to stave off the hissing and paws under the door. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net www.kelltek.com Check out www.snittens.com A flier was put up at the complex mailbox as soon as he was found, and so far nobody contacted the office to say the cat was their's. A maintenance guy did tell me he saw that cat in someone's apartment 6 weeks ago but he couldn't remember which one and felt that they most likely moved because the cat didn't start showing up around the area until around that time. As for the vet thing, I am hoping to find a vet who will possibly donate services as I am a bit strapped for cash. If I find a vet that takes payment arangements or does stuff at a reduced cost I'll ask if we can set up a fund for Icarus so people can send their money there. Of course it can't be done until tomorrow. I have also been in touch with rescue organizations as well (I have spent the last two days making calls and sending emails). As for the hissing, Jade and Isis were hissing at each other and I did put towels underneath the door to reduce the exchange between the newcomer and the current feline residents. I am doing as much as I can to ease the tension for all the felines. > Can you set something up so the money goes right to the vet office? No > offense, but I don't know you from a hole in the ground. Have you put up [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > fine, as long as you visit frequently. Put a towel along the crack at the > bottom of the door to stave off the hissing and paws under the door. In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> artfully composed this message within <news:hgQTc.35080$wo.19241@okepread06> on 15 Aug 2004: > A maintenance > guy did tell me he saw that cat in someone's apartment 6 weeks > ago but he couldn't remember which one and felt that they most > likely moved because the cat didn't start showing up around the > area until around that time. I wonder if they could find out which tenants moved out around the time the cat showed up, and if any such tenants left a forwarding address/phone number? When I moved out of my apt years ago and bought my house I had to give my former landlords contact information. I'm glad kitty is safe for now. SignatureCheryl I am not sure but I'll ask. I put up a new sign today that looks better. I spent some time with him today and he wanted to climb up on me and just be stroked and petted. > I wonder if they could find out which tenants moved out around the > time the cat showed up, and if any such tenants left a forwarding > address/phone number? When I moved out of my apt years ago and bought > my house I had to give my former landlords contact information. I'm > glad kitty is safe for now. I asked if they could check on this. The management here is not very helpful though and usually two-faced. I am quite convinced this was abandonment because we have had it happened before which is how I got Jade. I am trying to piece the facts together but it isn't easy. It is believed that the people moved out and simply left him outside to fend for himself. One resident said she had seen the cat out hanging around one building but was not sure he had a home. Maintenance remembered seeing the cat in someone's apartment but was not sure which one it was or where it was. So many conflicting stories but the only conclusion is he is safe right now. I am hoping someone comes forward by tomorrow but I don't think it'll happen. "Cheryl" <jlhshadow@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message > I wonder if they could find out which tenants moved out around the > time the cat showed up, and if any such tenants left a forwarding > address/phone number? When I moved out of my apt years ago and bought > my house I had to give my former landlords contact information. I'm > glad kitty is safe for now. > I am still awaiting word from a couple of rescues though. I don't think you > can tell if a cat has been fixed on whether or not their head is larger so I > have no clue where you got that info. It's correct info. An un-neutered adult male cat will often develop large, wide jowls; his face would be noticeably more 'there' than that of a male cat who'd been neutered when young. > He hasn't sprayed so it is possible > that he was neutered. If you lift up his tail & take a good look, it's usually pretty obvious whether a male cat's been neutered or not. Not always, but usually. If a cat is LH, it could also be more difficult to see exactly how much is there. > I put a night light in the bathroom for him He may want darkness for the hours when it's normally dark. and have a > CD player going with some music so he has something to listen to and keep > calm. I don't think I'd leave the CD player going all of the time; some of the time is good, IMO. All of the time could get wearing, perhaps. He is also purring. Good. Cathy > > Take him to the vet and get him tested for FeLV and FIV first, and have > them [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > By the way, you don't need to keep the light on in the bathroom. I'm sure > > he would like it to be dark at night like normal. >He may need to be spayed and checked out for the usual >like FELV, FIV and the other stuff. Is there anything else I can do for him? >I think the best thing about him is he is safe. OK, CP, you say the cat is only five months old. Of course he isn't spraying. They don't spray that young. And you think he's already neutered. Look at his butt. You should see/be able to feel testicles at 5 months. If you don't, he *is* neutered and probably belongs to someone and is lost. Or else he's a girl. Also, if he looks like an Ocicat or Bengal, like you said. Post a flyer near where he turned up. The fact that he is a "bit thin" (unless you mean "malnourished and emaciated) doesn't mean he's a stray. At that age they start to slim down anyway, and if he's been on his own even a few days, he'd look a little thin. Take him to a shelter or vet and have them scan him for a microchip. Sherry > >He may need to be spayed and checked out for the usual > >like FELV, FIV and the other stuff. Is there anything else I can do for him? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Sherry Oops, missed the part where he said the cat was 5 months old. I thought he was talking about an adult male. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net www.kelltek.com Check out www.snittens.com The cat is between 5 and 1 year. He is somewhat thin but seems like he still has some kitten in him. > > >He may need to be spayed and checked out for the usual > > >like FELV, FIV and the other stuff. Is there anything else I can do for [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Oops, missed the part where he said the cat was 5 months old. I thought he > was talking about an adult male. Here is a small update about Icarus. I am awaiting word from one of the rescue groups in order to get him spayed and neutered since it is low cost. He'll also be getting checked out for FELV/FIV. It is such a shame someone abandoned him. He really deserves better. |
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