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Kitten Help Needed Badly!!

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SBroad2300 - 16 Jul 2004 22:24 GMT
Help!

About a month ago, I purchased (through Pet Depot) two kittens from the local
Animal Shelter.  These kittens, one male and one female, are from the same
litter and are about three months old now, and seem very healthy.  I have no
information as to how they came to the Shelter.

I'm having two problems with them:

(1) The whiskers and eyelashes of the female are either falling out or breaking
off;

and

(2) Both kittens are extremely flatulant...frequently and noxiously.

Can anyone give me any information and/or ideas as to what's going on and how
to fix it?  I'm very fond of the little vermin; the thing about kittens is that
they steal your heart very quickly.

Thanks!
Karen - 16 Jul 2004 22:33 GMT
What are you feeding them?

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SBroad2300 - 16 Jul 2004 22:50 GMT
>What are you feeding them?

Since I also have several adult cats, the kittens have access to Kitten Chow,
Meow Mix, and IAMS Kitten food.

They also like people-food quite a lot.  So far, that list includes tomatoes,
coffee, cole slaw, potato salad, popcorn, assorted meats...in fact, the only
thing I've found that they refuse to eat is turnip greens.
SBroad2300 - 16 Jul 2004 22:53 GMT
I first noticed the flatulence problem on the way home from the pet store, so
they had the problem before I got them.

And their eating people-food was not in the least my idea.
Mary - 16 Jul 2004 23:18 GMT
> They also like people-food quite a lot.  So far, that list includes
tomatoes,  coffee, cole slaw, potato salad, popcorn, assorted meats...in
fact, the only
> thing I've found that they refuse to eat is turnip greens.

Well, DUH! Cole slaw and potatoes can cause my husband to clear a room. I
think we may have the gas culprit here. Aside from the gas issue, I don't
think it is a good idea to feed kittens people food.
SBroad2300 - 16 Jul 2004 23:47 GMT
>Well, DUH! Cole slaw and potatoes can cause my husband to clear a room. I
>think we may have the gas culprit here. Aside from the gas issue, I don't
>think it is a good idea to feed kittens people food.

Unfortunately, they had the gas problem long before they started eating people
food.

I've had a total of ten cats in my life, of which only one ate only cat food.
All of the cats that have passed on (except one that died of feline HIV) lived
to be over 18 years old when they died.
Mary - 17 Jul 2004 00:30 GMT
> >Well, DUH! Cole slaw and potatoes can cause my husband to clear a room. I
> >think we may have the gas culprit here. Aside from the gas issue, I don't
> >think it is a good idea to feed kittens people food.
>
> Unfortunately, they had the gas problem long before they started eating
people food.

Regardless, you are feeding them food that causes gas in many humans. It
cannot be helping.

> I've had a total of ten cats in my life, of which only one ate only cat food.

Great.
SBroad2300 - 17 Jul 2004 00:36 GMT
Thanks, everyone, for your suggestions and comments.

Someone told me that they might have worms, which might be causing the gas.

I'm carrying them to the vet this coming week, for their first shots.  I'll
have the vet check them for that (they've already been tested for HIV and
leukemia).
Mary - 17 Jul 2004 02:18 GMT
> Thanks, everyone, for your suggestions and comments.

Hope all goes well. Post some pics of the babies for us!
SBroad2300 - 17 Jul 2004 02:37 GMT
>Hope all goes well. Post some pics of the babies for us!

I don't have a website...is there any way I can post them to the newsgroups?

These are sweet babies...black and white, and into everything.  The first
non-tabbies I've had.

This is my first day posting to the newsgroup, and the response I've gotten
convinces me of something I've believed for a long time: the thing about
hard-core cat people, is that 99% are just incredibly nice people.

Thanks, folks.
Cathy Friedmann - 17 Jul 2004 03:15 GMT
> >Hope all goes well. Post some pics of the babies for us!
>
> I don't have a website...is there any way I can post them to the newsgroups?

Yes, you can post their pics at the alt.binaries.pictures.animals ng.  Once
there, you'd send it just as you would a regular post, except you'd attach
whichever piture(s) you'd like to.

Cathy

> These are sweet babies...black and white, and into everything.  The first
> non-tabbies I've had.
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> Thanks, folks.
SBroad2300 - 17 Jul 2004 03:38 GMT
>Yes, you can post their pics at the alt.binaries.pictures.animals ng.  Once
>there, you'd send it just as you would a regular post, except you'd attach
>whichever piture(s) you'd like to.

I tried that, but my ISP won't allow me to attach photos to my newsgroup
postings. (Damn AOL!)

Anyone who wants to see a photo of Raven and Baxter, please email me at the
above address, and I'll send you one.
Mary - 17 Jul 2004 04:09 GMT
>I tried that, but my ISP won't allow me to attach photos to my newsgroup
>postings. (Damn AOL!)

I'm on AOL. I just downloaded an external browser and post through that. I also
have high speed cable.
PawsForThought - 17 Jul 2004 00:32 GMT
>From: sbroad2300@aol.com  (SBroad2300)

>>Well, DUH! Cole slaw and potatoes can cause my husband to clear a room. I
>>think we may have the gas culprit here. Aside from the gas issue, I don't
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>lived
>to be over 18 years old when they died.

But maybe the specific people food you're feeding them isn't helping the
flatulence problem.  If you're going to feed people food, why not feed them a
properly balanced diet specific for a cat?
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PawsForThought - 17 Jul 2004 00:20 GMT
>From: sbroad2300@aol.com  (SBroad2300)

>>What are you feeding them?
>
>Since I also have several adult cats, the kittens have access to Kitten Chow,
>Meow Mix, and IAMS Kitten food.

No wonder they have gas!  LOL  That's pretty lousy food.  I would really
recommend switching them to a better canned food like Wellness, Nature's
Variety, or Petguard.  If you have a Whole Foods market in your area, they
usually carry the better foods.

Lauren
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Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
m. L. Briggs - 17 Jul 2004 01:02 GMT
>>What are you feeding them?
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>coffee, cole slaw, potato salad, popcorn, assorted meats...in fact, the only
>thing I've found that they refuse to eat is turnip greens.

Suggestion:  Feed them separately and don't feed them what you are
eating.  Feed them only thekitten wet food at this time.  MLB
Mary - 16 Jul 2004 23:04 GMT
>(1) The whiskers and eyelashes of the female are either falling out or
>breaking
>off;

One kitten is suckling, licking the others whiskers. They sometimes even chew
on them. I've seen kittens chew off all the whiskers on one side of another
kittens face. Nothing to worry about.

>(2) Both kittens are extremely flatulant...frequently and noxiously.

Only give the kittens the same exact type of kitten food every day. No human
foods especially nothing fatty or oily or containing a lot of fiber. Don't let
them overeat wet food. If they eat wet food until they are huge, just leave out
enough for a kitten of their weight.  If after a few days of regular kitten
food and a normal amount and they are still gassy, I would probably contact the
vet.
MacCandace - 17 Jul 2004 02:00 GMT
<< One kitten is suckling, licking the others whiskers. They sometimes even
chew
on them. I've seen kittens chew off all the whiskers on one side of another
kittens face. Nothing to worry about. >>

That's what I was going to say.  I'm not sure if the kittens are in contact
with the adult cats, sounds like they are because of the food sharing, but it
coul dbe one of the adult cats doing it, also.  My cat, Scottie, chews my cat,
Abbey's eyebrows off and my late cat, Emily, used to chew the side whiskers off
her son, Cory.

I was also going to suggest getting the kittens checked for worms.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human."  (Loren Eisely)
SBroad2300 - 17 Jul 2004 02:12 GMT
><< One kitten is suckling, licking the others whiskers. They sometimes even
>chew
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>I was also going to suggest getting the kittens checked for worms.

It sounds reasonable that the male kitten is removing her whiskers; he's
seriously into suckling.  I suspect they may have been abandoned by a feral
mother.

Of the adult cats, two won't have anything to do with the kittens; they're not
hostile, they're just not interested.  The third made the mistake of grooming
the kittens, and now they think she's their mother.  Which is kinda cute, but
now she generally tries to avoid them except at bedtime, because they were
driving her nuts wanting to be groomed.
Leslie - 17 Jul 2004 00:06 GMT
if the whiskers and eyelashes are breaking or falling out, i would have her
checked for ringworm, just to be on the safe side. Also if they are very
gassy,find a good cat food lower in carbs.I hope this helps

Leslie
                                                                         
                                                        "you can tell alot
about a people or person in how they treat animals"
Mary - 17 Jul 2004 00:31 GMT
> I'm very fond of the little vermin; the thing about kittens is that they
steal your heart very quickly.

They sure do. Which is why I know you'll want to take them to the vet to see
what's up.
~*Connie*~ - 17 Jul 2004 12:44 GMT
the kittens are chewing the whiskers.  they'll outgrow it.

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