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Oliver Costich - 15 Aug 2003 02:18 GMT
We are moving from San Diego to Fort Lauderdale and have 5 cats to
move with us. I hate to subject them to a long car ride where they
will be in carriers all day for several days. Here are the options I
have considered:

Drive them doing 8-9 hours of driving and stopping overnight at
hotels. This takes about 6 days

Drive them doing 12-13 hours of driving and stopping in hotels. This
takes 4 days.

Send them on a plane with my wife. This would be on a nonstop flight
from LA to Miami at night. Total time in carriers about 13 hours.

Any other options? Which would you do? Any other tips for doing this?

Thanks.
Magic Mood Jeep? - 15 Aug 2003 03:25 GMT
I recently read a story that was on google, about a woman w/cancer that had
to give up her cat because she was unable to care for it and hubby would NOT
take care of it, it was adopted by someone in Missouri (the cat was
originally in Washington).  It was transported by a company called
Pro-Pet-Transports.  For more information on them, you can go to their web
site http://www.pro-pet-transports.com/.  Probably about as expensive as a
plane ticket or two, but with less stress.  I know that if I ever have to
travel within the US and have to take pets, I would use them.  In the story
I read, the experience was favorable.

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> We are moving from San Diego to Fort Lauderdale and have 5 cats to
> move with us. I hate to subject them to a long car ride where they
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> Thanks.
Ditch - 15 Aug 2003 07:25 GMT
>http://www.pro-pet-transports.com/.  Probably about as expensive as a
>plane ticket or two, but with less stress.

I don't know about the prices of the above mentioned company, but when I looked
at some, they wanted anywhere from $900-2500 for my 5 cats. I moved from the
Orlando area to the San Francisco area.
What I ended up doing was putting them on a non-stop flight from Orlando to San
Francisco and my wife picked them up on the other end and I drove the rental
truck.
The way I figure it, was 12 hours of hell in a carrier verses about 50 if they
drove with me.
The hardest part was getting ahold of pet carriers that are approved for the
airline.

-John
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Oliver Costich - 16 Aug 2003 08:56 GMT
>>http://www.pro-pet-transports.com/.  Probably about as expensive as a
>>plane ticket or two, but with less stress.
>
>I don't know about the prices of the above mentioned company, but when I looked
>at some, they wanted anywhere from $900-2500 for my 5 cats. I moved from the
>Orlando area to the San Francisco area.

They told me $1700 for 5 cats from San Diego to Fort Lauderdale. Seems
a bit high.

>What I ended up doing was putting them on a non-stop flight from Orlando to San
>Francisco and my wife picked them up on the other end and I drove the rental
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>*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North
>American*
tigressnospam@gtf.org - 15 Aug 2003 07:27 GMT
> Drive them doing 8-9 hours of driving and stopping overnight at
> hotels. This takes about 6 days

Please excuse my typos... I have a really horrible connection at the
moment so it's hard to correct them all (and there are a lot).

I drove my cat from Atlanta to Seattle when I moved out here. This was a
super timid cat that I was really worried about ehr going feral like again
after the move.I don't remember how long we drove each day with her, my
roommate thinks 10 hours, but we took the long southern route and took 7
days to do so. She seemed to do fine until the last hour each day (and
finally got fed up the last day, though my dad pointed uot what she might
have been doing was learning that if she holwed a lot we stoppped the car
so she was trying that method the last day after figuring out what she
thought was a way to stop us).

She managed to do fine, meowing every hour and otherwise just keeping low.
She even took very well to the new appartment when we got there.

I can tell you she didn't take flying veryh well as I had her shipped to
me. It's not a fair comparision cause her flying to me was her coming from
some one she knew to some one she didn't and having no one she knew around
her while she was on the plane (would you be with the cat if you flew her
or would she be in cargo?).

My friend moved from Texas to here and let her cats free roam the car
while driving (I would never do this.. this can cause a driving hazard and
leaves the cats unsecured in case of an accident). My cat had a custom
made cage that fit half the cargo space in the SUV I had at the time
(partly because she was not allowed out of it cause she is such a timid
cat I  nknew if she went out we'd never see her again). It fit her bed and
a small litterbox. And probably gave her familiar surroundings during the
trip amongst all the changing surroundings (you might think of making a
carrier to fit a good size chunk of space yourself olr buying a large dog
carrier. The advantage of making one yoruself is you canm take full
advantage of your vehicle's space as you can make it fit all the
countours).

Alice

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zuzu22@webtv.net - 16 Aug 2003 17:16 GMT
> We are moving from San Diego to Fort
> Lauderdale and have 5 cats to move with
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> and stopping in hotels. This takes 4
> days.

Any of these options will work. Whatever you decide, please don't ship
them on an airplane in cargo. I have seen for myself what goes on
"behind the scenes" at airports wtih regards to shipping pets while
trying to rescue a cat that had, through airline negligence, escaped
from its carrier after it was thrown from a baggage cart and broke open.
I found the cat up in the ceilings above the baggage carousels, but I
was unable to get to it and it disappeared never to be found, even
though I set several traps up in the ceiling and monitored them for
quite some time. I would NEVER put a cat on a plane unless I could take
it on board with me in a carrier. Every single airline employee I spoke
with said they would never ship their pets in cargo either. That says a
lot.

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Rona Yuthasastrakosol - 16 Aug 2003 20:25 GMT
> Any of these options will work. Whatever you decide, please don't ship
> them on an airplane in cargo. I have seen for myself what goes on
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> with said they would never ship their pets in cargo either. That says a
> lot.

How do you feel about pets as check-in baggage?  I've been reading a lot
about shipping pets overseas (I have a friend moving a dog from Thailand to
the US) and it seems there are two choices--cargo and check-in.  They are
slightly different, but I can't remember how off-hand.  It seems to me,
though, that there wouldn't be much difference between the two.

Another horror story about dogs and cats travelling:

A few weeks ago I read in the paper about a dog in the baggage cart of a
train, travelling in Eastern Canada.  The dog had gotten free somehow and
literally tore apart a cat also in the baggage cart.  An investigation was
underway on how the dog managed to get free, and how it managed to get to
the cat.  One more reason for people not to let their pets travel separately
from them (if at all possible).

rona
zuzu22@webtv.net - 16 Aug 2003 20:57 GMT
Rona wrote:

> How do you feel about pets as check-in
> baggage?

The same. I wouldn't do it if you paid me a million dollars.

>I've been reading a lot about
> shipping pets overseas (I have a friend
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> that there wouldn't be much difference
> between the two.

The only difference is whether the person is flying on the same plane as
the animal.

> Another horror story about dogs and cats
> travelling:
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> let their pets travel separately from
> them (if at all possible).

While I was at the airport in the baggage area I witnessed the escape of
a pit bull that proceeded to run, terrified, through the baggage area
dodging moving vehicles. The people pretty much just stood around with
stupid looks on their faces and made no move to catch him. The only
people that immediately tried to catch the dog were me and my security
escort, and we were unable to grab him. The last I saw he was running
down the driveway towards the open tarmac as at least 60-70 people just
stood around and watched him go.

This is not the kind of attitude I want the people I entrust an animals
life to to have, and the fact that it was so prevalent in such a large
group does not bode well. And this is only one concern, There are others
as well and a quick google search using the terms "pets" "death" and
"airlines" will bring up many incidents of tragedies involving animals
shipped by air and often they are a result of carelessness by employees.
They estimate that 5,000 pets a year die while being shipped by air.
That's 5,000 very good reasons to not take the risk. That's exactly why,
when Jack, the cat whose story was mentioned earlier, needed to get to
St. Louis from Seattle, we decided on Pro Pet Transports for him, which
worked out very well.

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Rona Yuthasastrakosol - 17 Aug 2003 02:11 GMT
> This is not the kind of attitude I want the people I entrust an animals
> life to to have, and the fact that it was so prevalent in such a large
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> St. Louis from Seattle, we decided on Pro Pet Transports for him, which
> worked out very well.

I'm forwarding your post to my friend, if it's OK with you.  Do you have any
suggestions on shipping large-ish dogs from overseas to the US?  It seems to
me that my friend's only choice is to ship either cargo or as check-in
baggage because her dog is too large for the cabin.  Would it be safer to
use a transport company?  We've looked into a few, but they are very
expensive, and my friend is on a limited budget.

I remember the Jack story.  Any updates on him and his owner (both past and
present) recently?  I don't remember who it was that adopted him...

rona
Cat Protector - 16 Aug 2003 21:57 GMT
I have to agree with you on this one although my aunt who breeds show dogs
often ships her animals via plane and they seem to end up fine when they
arrive at their destination. With cats however, I'd have a few relatives go
on the plane with you and it can be one cat per person that can be carry on.
This way the cats can be safe in their carriers in the air conditioned
cabin. The other idea is to find an air carrier that transports only animals
in a climate controlled plane.

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> > Any of these options will work. Whatever you decide, please don't ship
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> rona
rafael - 20 Aug 2003 08:12 GMT
> Any of these options will work. Whatever you decide, please don't ship
> them on an airplane in cargo. I have seen for myself what goes on
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>
> Megan

Wow.. thanks for these stories on pets in cargo. I've never had to travel
with my two cats yet and I don't plan to anytime soon. But if I ever do I
will MAKE SURE that I can take them both with me on the plane with all the
other passengers.
 
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