How do cat shelters (or other people with multiple cats) handle it when two cats
don't get along?
Some of you may remember my previous posts regarding the saga of Old Cat and New
Cat, two cats who just can't seem to get along. For those who don't, Old Cat is
an 11-year-old neutered male. Up until 2 years ago, he had a dog to play with;
she passed away from cancer. For a while after the dog died, Old Cat seemed to
miss having another animal as a companion; he would wander around the house
mewing, as if searching for his lost buddy.
So we went to the shelter and adopted New Cat, a spayed female who was about 6
months old when we adopted her. I've lived in multiple cat households in the
past, and never had any problems introducing two cats to each other. In my
experience, they always became fast friends. I figured if Old Cat would be
buddies with a dog, then another cat would be even better.
I was wrong.
Old Cat and New Cat don't get along very well. New Cat seems to stress Old Cat
out - he runs away from her whenever she approaches. In the beginning there was
a lot of hissing and batting of paws, but that seems to have settled down. New
Cat is very playful, and likes to chase Old Cat. Old Cat responds by running
away and then, when no one is looking, he craps on the carpet(!!!) In almost 10
years prior to adopting New Cat, Old Cat has never even once failed to use his
litter box; now he'll do it every time we let him out of his "sanctuary." New
Cat, on the other hand, does not seem to be genuionely aggressive; it seems to
me she only wants to play. Unfortunately, Old Cat just isn't into the whole
playing thing anymore.
It's been a year and a half since then, and unless we want to keep picking up
cat feces from the carpet we have to keep Old Cat locked up in our bedroom while
New Cat has the run of the house (or vice-versa).
So I'm wondering what people who have multiple cats do in a situation like this.
Do you just rip out all the carpet, put linoleum on the floor, and let the cats
work things out for themselves? :)
We don't want to give either one of them away. Anyone have any
industrial-strength solutions for us to try?
Thanks for your help!

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Karen - 13 Jul 2004 20:47 GMT
I hate to say it as you will probably say no off the bat, but I have seen
people solve this by getting a youngster to play with the younger cat. Then
Old Cat can be left in peace but still benefit from company. It's a thought
anyway.
> How do cat shelters (or other people with multiple cats) handle it when two cats
> don't get along?
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> Thanks for your help!
Sherry - 13 Jul 2004 21:13 GMT
>I hate to say it as you will probably say no off the bat, but I have seen
>people solve this by getting a youngster to play with the younger cat. Then
>Old Cat can be left in peace but still benefit from company. It's a thought
>anyway.
This sounds crazy too, but the newest cat always gets picked on. Till you get
*another* new cat. Then, all of a sudden, New Cat #1 immediately gets inducted
into the "in club". And New Cat #2 is getting picked on.
I've seen this first-hand this week with the kittens. Now all of a sudden
Bootsie thinks Biskit is her buddy, since we got the new kittens.
Sherry
Karen - 13 Jul 2004 21:18 GMT
> >I hate to say it as you will probably say no off the bat, but I have seen
> >people solve this by getting a youngster to play with the younger cat. Then
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> Sherry
Really?? Oh how funny. Now you make me wish I'd adopted that persian at my
vets. However, I think I got her a new meowmie!! Details soon.
Scott en Aztl?n - 14 Jul 2004 20:54 GMT
In rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Karen said:
>I hate to say it as you will probably say no off the bat, but I have seen
>people solve this by getting a youngster to play with the younger cat.
You mean a third kitten?
>Then Old Cat can be left in peace but still benefit from company. It's a thought
>anyway.
But what's to stop Baby Cat and New Cat from ganging up on Old Cat, stressing
him out even more? In my experience, kittens are not quite so "programmable." :)

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Karen - 14 Jul 2004 21:20 GMT
YEs, I did mean that. You'll notice almost everyone said the same thing. I
don't know *how* it works, but it does usually seem to work.
> In rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Karen said:
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> But what's to stop Baby Cat and New Cat from ganging up on Old Cat, stressing
> him out even more? In my experience, kittens are not quite so "programmable." :)
Scott en Aztl?n - 15 Jul 2004 19:22 GMT
In rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Karen said:
>YEs, I did mean that. You'll notice almost everyone said the same thing. I
>don't know *how* it works, but it does usually seem to work.
Hmm... Could you convince my wife, please? ;) She assumes that more cats == more
cat poop on the carpet. :)

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Karen - 15 Jul 2004 20:10 GMT
Hmmm. Well, the only poop I've ever had on the carpet is that that drops off
accidently from kitty butts. Maybe she should post here?
Karen
> In rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Karen said:
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> Hmm... Could you convince my wife, please? ;) She assumes that more cats == more
> cat poop on the carpet. :)
Wendy - 13 Jul 2004 22:14 GMT
> How do cat shelters (or other people with multiple cats) handle it when two cats
> don't get along?
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> Thanks for your help!
Well I've got an old cat, a not so old cat and a young PIA cat who are all
hooked on Feliway - a habit I encouraged to save my 1 1/2 yr old carpeting.
The not so old cat had been a diversion for the young PIA until recently
when she finally lost patience with him and now has joined the old girl in
finding him tiresome. This is not necessarily bad as the old girl and the
not so old girl share a common cause and have found more tolerance for one
another. As for the young whippersnapper he just bee bobs merrily along
oblivious to the disapproving looks from his elders.
The moral of this story is invest in Feliway and a few extra rolls of paper
towels and let them work it out.
All three of mine are peacefully sleeping in the living room so it worked
for me.
W
Sunflower - 14 Jul 2004 01:13 GMT
You get more cats. Seriously. I have had as many as 10 here, and have 8
currently. Despite that, right now, it only looks like I have 2. They make
their own friendships, and alliances and it mostly smooths out over time. I
do have a "pariah" cat, a term that is familiar to anyone who does colony
housing. No one can stand her, and everyone tries to beat her up. She's
adapted by living in our bedroom. The door is open for her to come and go
as she pleases (as well as the other cats) but she hangs out there on our
bed where for some reason, none of the rest of them bother her. Having this
safe haven has helped her to become a bit more venturesome, and also has
mellowed the others a bit. If she comes out for food or water and any of
them hassle her, just picking up the water pistol that I've used to
discourage their bully behavior seems to do the trick--at least while I'm
there. No bloodshed yet, so that's a good thing. Another not quite feral,
but not quite tame has suddenly become the one everyone pics on. Doing the
same thing for her, giving her a safe haven, seems to also have smoothed out
things a bit, and she was asleep in a kitchen chair just now instead of her
hidey holes of various cat kennels placed in the kitchen and laundry room.
So, get another young cat (or two) for your young cat. They'll probably
pair off and leave your older one alone. Once the pressure to play or even
associate with the other cat is gone, then maybe he'll feel safe enough to
venture out of your bedroom too. And yes, solid flooring like tile or stone
or something IS going in my next house. I'm even tempted to rip up the
carpet and have the industrial chic of sealed concrete floors. Carpet is
bad for allergies anyway.
Laura R. - 14 Jul 2004 02:24 GMT
circa Wed, 14 Jul 2004 00:13:30 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Sunflower (sunflwrNOSPAM@midsouth.rr.com) said,
> I'm even tempted to rip up the
> carpet and have the industrial chic of sealed concrete floors. Carpet is
> bad for allergies anyway.
The best thing I've done for my allergies in the past decade was to
move back to a home with hardwood floors.
Carpeting sucks.
Laura

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