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Jean B. - 11 Jul 2004 01:35 GMT
Today I was in Rockingham (Park?) Mall, in Salem, NH.  As is my
wont, I had to go see if there were any kittens.  (No, I was not
looking to buy one there; I now know a) that they generally come
from kitten mills; and b) there are lots of cats out there that
need homes.)  Yes, they had kittens--three in the window and one
in a cage inside.  I was appalled first to see that poop had been
tracked all over the window display area, then to see that at
least one cat was having diarrhea all over the floor.  I could not
see whether there might be other sick cats, although one of them
looked like he/she was not taking great care of him/herself, which
made me think there may be more than one ailing cat.  So, my
question is what can be done about these poor little things?

BTW, re buying cats at pet stores, there is another pet store on
Rte 28 in Salem, closer to the Massachusetts line.  Last time I
stopped in, they had some kittens for sale--for $700, and they
were not any special breed (even according to the sign), just
mongrel house cats (well, they are special too, but I am speaking
of price here).  So, why on earth would someone pay $700 for some
random cat instead of going to a shelter, or just getting some
poor kitten from some benighted person who did not have his/her
cat spayed and now is stuck with unwanted kittens?
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Jean B.

Kalyahna - 11 Jul 2004 02:10 GMT
> Today I was in Rockingham (Park?) Mall, in Salem, NH.  As is my
> wont, I had to go see if there were any kittens.  (No, I was not
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> made me think there may be more than one ailing cat.  So, my
> question is what can be done about these poor little things?

You can try calling your local humane officers - the local police dispatch
should have the number at which you can reach them. If these kittens (or
cats, for that matter) are ill and not receiving proper medical care, I
think that constitutes neglect and they -may- (note the emphasis, as I'm not
a humane officer or even a humane agent, nor do I study law of any sort) be
able to do anything from ordering the mall to see the kittens get proper vet
care within a few days' time to taking the kittens themselves and handing
them over to the local municipal shelter to getting a court order to prevent
that particular store from keeping cats or kittens ever again.

You may be able to simply speak to management and emphasize that as someone
who has had cats for years, you're familiar with basic health care, and that
doesn't seem to be met in their store (it's really appalling how many pet
store employees don't know the first thing about the live animals they're
supposed to be taking care of - our bunny expert has actually visited
several different area stores and harangued various managers into doing a
better job with their rabbits). A threat to call a humane officer may be
enough of a cracked whip to get them going.

Or you can always go into the store, pretend to peruse the "merchandise,"
and whenever someone comes by to look, point out (LOUDLY) how sick the
kittens look. "Oh, gosh, I bet that just would NEVER come out of my carpet!"
"Can you imagine having to clean that up six times a day? And steam cleaners
are such a hassle!" "Oh, that poor little thing... I'd have to take him
straight to the vet, he looks so sick, and it's so expensive!"
Jean B. - 11 Jul 2004 11:58 GMT
> You can try calling your local humane officers - the local police dispatch
> should have the number at which you can reach them.

Thanks.  I actually live in Massachusetts, so I'll have to check
that out.

 If these kittens (or
> cats, for that matter) are ill and not receiving proper medical care, I
> think that constitutes neglect and they -may- (note the emphasis, as I'm not
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> are such a hassle!" "Oh, that poor little thing... I'd have to take him
> straight to the vet, he looks so sick, and it's so expensive!"

Oh, I was certainly making comments, which folks standing near me
heard.  I was somewhat stupefied that someone else was actually
having someone get one of the kittens (not the actively pooping
one) out--and the worker seemed unperturbed by the state of the
"cage"--even though one of the puddles of poop was right where he
was reaching in.  Aaaargh.

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Jean B.

KellyH - 11 Jul 2004 02:28 GMT
> Today I was in Rockingham (Park?) Mall, in Salem, NH.  As is my
> wont, I had to go see if there were any kittens.  (No, I was not
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> made me think there may be more than one ailing cat.  So, my
> question is what can be done about these poor little things?

Contact the NH Dept of Agriculture at 603-271-3551.  They regulate pet
stores.  Ugh, I want to go to that store and buy the cats so they can get
some proper care, but I know that just perpetuates the problem. Mall pet
shops make me ill.

> BTW, re buying cats at pet stores, there is another pet store on
> Rte 28 in Salem, closer to the Massachusetts line.  Last time I
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> poor kitten from some benighted person who did not have his/her
> cat spayed and now is stuck with unwanted kittens?

I assume you're talking about SeaWorld.  I asked them one time where they
get their kittens from, as they had some regular-looking kittens for sale, I
think it was $250 each (I guess inflation has really done a number on the
price kittens!).  They told me they usually come from people who have
accidental litters and drop them off, or from employees.  The woman tried to
justify the price saying they were checked out by a vet.  No vaccines, no
spay or neuter. For $85, you can adopt a vaccinated, spayed/neutered kitten
from the Salem Animal Rescue League, right down the street.  (Which is where
I volunteer) I try not to shop at SeaWorld, but they are the only place
nearby that carries Wellness food.

If you are looking for kittens, fill out an Adoption Application online at
www.sarl-nh.org

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-Kelly
kelly at farringtons dot net
Check out www.snittens.com

MacCandace - 11 Jul 2004 09:32 GMT
<< Ugh, I want to go to that store and buy the cats so they can get
some proper care, but I know that just perpetuates the problem. Mall pet
shops make me ill. >>

I know but how sad for these particular kittens.  What will happen to them?  No
one will buy them at that price so what will become of them?  I don't know of
any mall pet shops anymore in the Phoenix area, fortunately, altho I suppose
there might be some.  It's just unacceptable and they can't compete with
Petsmart anyway for products or for animals from rescue orgs that adopt out of
Petsmart.  What that town (Salem, NH) needs is a Petsmart to run this crudhole
out of business...but meanwhile, poor kitties.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Jean B. - 11 Jul 2004 12:13 GMT
> << Ugh, I want to go to that store and buy the cats so they can get
> some proper care, but I know that just perpetuates the problem. Mall pet
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> Petsmart.  What that town (Salem, NH) needs is a Petsmart to run this crudhole
> out of business...but meanwhile, poor kitties.

There was no price on the sick cat(s) I saw yesterday--also no
label, so I have no idea what that part of the story is.  The mall
pet stores in my area in Massachusetts have, indeed, disappeared,
which is the main reason why I have to look at stores elsewhere.
 I suppose I shouldn't even look though, because that could be
construed as interest.

For all *I* know, there COULD be a Petsmart in Salem.  There are
so many little malls--just like the ones that have Petsmarts
closer to me.  Maybe our NH respondent knows the answer to that.
Also, I have just started going up to Rockingham.  How old is that
pet store?  Sea World (down the road) looks like it has been there
for a long time....

BTW, it seems that there are more stores that still carry dogs, so
I gather the lack of cats is not because of the questionable
sources, etc.

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Jean B.

KellyH - 11 Jul 2004 22:00 GMT
> For all *I* know, there COULD be a Petsmart in Salem.  There are
> so many little malls--just like the ones that have Petsmarts
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> I gather the lack of cats is not because of the questionable
> sources, etc.

A Petsmart just opened up in Salem, in the shopping center where the CompUSA
and Best Buy is.  They don't carry Wellness pet food, though.  I was really
hoping they would so I can stop going to SeaWorld.

I think that pet store in the mall has been there for a while.  I hardly
ever go to the mall, but I've seen it there the past couple years.  SeaWorld
has been there for at least 20 years.  People have told me it actually used
to be worse, if you can believe it.  The incident of the $250 kittens was
about a year ago.  It was the one and only time I actually walked around the
store.  I usually just go straight for the cat food and leave, but something
made me look around.  I went back to the area where the puppies and kittens
are.  Shocked by the price and the apparent regular-ness (no "breed" they
could pass them off as), that's when I asked about the origins.  I got in a
little debate with the employee about the appropriate age to spay/neuter, as
I thought the high price should definetely include that, and, it's the
responsible thing to do.

BTW, there's an article in the Sunday paper about how it's legal to sell
alligators and other exotic reptiles as pets in NH, and how people are
starting to call for a ban since that pet alligator has escpaed twice in
Derry.  Anyway, they interview an employee at SeaWorld, where of course, you
can buy an alligator!  Who knew?

-Kelly
kelly at farringtons dot net
Check out www.snittens.com
Jean B. - 11 Jul 2004 12:05 GMT
> Contact the NH Dept of Agriculture at 603-271-3551.  They regulate pet
> stores.  Ugh, I want to go to that store and buy the cats so they can get
> some proper care, but I know that just perpetuates the problem. Mall pet
> shops make me ill.

Okay.  Thanks.  Yes, that IS exactly  the problem, isn't it?  One
wants to do something, but then that just encourages the store to
get more kittens from whatever sources and to turn a blind eye to
any possible problems.
>  
>
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> I volunteer) I try not to shop at SeaWorld, but they are the only place
> nearby that carries Wellness food.

Ack!  I wondered if that was the case.  When did you see the $250
kittens?  Even that is very high, given the fact that you can just
as easily respond to some local sign yourself--or get a cat at a
shelter.

> If you are looking for kittens, fill out an Adoption Application online at
>  www.sarl-nh.org

Thanks.  Right now I am not thinking about getting any more
cats--not that that always works.  I still have two foster cats
here--and this house is very open and thus not conducive to
sequestering various cats for various reasons (like gradual
intros, possible illness, etc.).

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~*Connie*~ - 11 Jul 2004 23:05 GMT
So, why on earth would someone pay $700 for some
> random cat instead of going to a shelter, or just getting some
> poor kitten from some benighted person who did not have his/her
> cat spayed and now is stuck with unwanted kittens?
> --
> Jean B.

most people when they want a kitten (or puppy), want a kitten NOW, and will
do what they feel they have to to get one.  Also a lot of people don't
realize what a horror pet store pets are, and how clean and well maintained
shelters and humane societies are.  Unfortunately they have  reverse images
in their minds. they think pet store pets are healthy and taken care of,
where shelter animals were abused and beaten and can't possibly make good
pets.  Its sad.

I also i've heard of more than a few people who look at pet store pets and
think they can't possibly be mill puppies because they look in such good
health
-L. : - 12 Jul 2004 07:09 GMT
> Today I was in Rockingham (Park?) Mall, in Salem, NH.  As is my
> wont, I had to go see if there were any kittens.  (No, I was not
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> made me think there may be more than one ailing cat.  So, my
> question is what can be done about these poor little things?

Call your local humane society and file a report.  Make sure they send
someone out to investigate.  I do it all the time with the local
crappy PetCo.

-L.
 
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