> Any comments about a Peter Rosenberg, Dr. Osterman, Dr. Hunziker, or the
numerous other places?
I think this is a touchy area, because people are afraid of libel and other
unpleasant accusations/developments. I do agree that it would be very
useful.
Moe Hair - 10 Jul 2004 01:49 GMT
"Mary" <rosefan@email.com> opened in news:14FHc.109794$wH4.6102732
@twister.southeast.rr.com:
> numerous other places?
>
> I think this is a touchy area, because people are afraid of libel and other
> unpleasant accusations/developments. I do agree that it would be very
> useful.
it's amazing that you can find complaints about businesses, vendors,
websites, etc., but when it comes to health and well being, you have no way
of knowing who is good and who is lousy unless you know someone in the court
system or the profession itself and he or she is clued in.
Cheryl - 10 Jul 2004 02:07 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", Moe Hair
<mohair@nospam.com> artfully composed this message within
<news:Xns9521D3A50442Bmohair@news4-ge1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> on 09
Jul 2004:
> it's amazing that you can find complaints about businesses,
> vendors, websites, etc., but when it comes to health and well
> being, you have no way of knowing who is good and who is lousy
> unless you know someone in the court system or the profession
> itself and he or she is clued in.
I know what you mean. I had a horrible experience with a vet, a
specialist; internal medicine. I tried to warn about her on another
forum when people were asking about recommendations in my area for an
internist and was told privately I couldn't mention a vets name in a
negative way publically. Granted, it was by the list owner, but
still.

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Cheryl
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> In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", Moe Hair
> <mohair@nospam.com> artfully composed this message within
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> negative way publically. Granted, it was by the list owner, but
> still.
Doesn't stop you from doing it privately via e-mail. :)
-L.
Mary - 10 Jul 2004 02:18 GMT
> it's amazing that you can find complaints about >businesses, vendors,
websites, etc., but when it comes >to health and well being, you have no way
of knowing >who is good and who is lousy unless you know someone >in the
court system or the profession itself and he or she >is clued in.
It's true. But everyone is so litigious these days. Hell, doctors for humans
are sued so often I can't imagine they would hesitate to sue for libel or
slander.
PawsForThought - 10 Jul 2004 03:48 GMT
>From: Moe Hair
>it's amazing that you can find complaints about businesses, vendors,
>websites, etc., but when it comes to health and well being, you have no way
>of knowing who is good and who is lousy unless you know someone in the court
>system or the profession itself and he or she is clued in.
Well you can contact your state department to see if any complaints have been
filed against the particular vet. But I don't think that would be as good as a
forum for it.
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If you can contact the State Board of Veterinary Medicine, they may be
able to help you, I know I had a problem with a vet in Pa. and sent my
complaint to the State Board of Veterinary Medicine in Harrisburg and
got results. I am sure they have one in your state, maybe if you check
on your search engine. I was told that when a complaint is sent in, it
is on their record..
Hope that helps, Aimee
| I've always felt that a board that enumerates the compliments
| and complaints about vets (and physicians) would be a major
| help to all pet owners.
But, how do you distinguish between complaint and libel?
Sometimes I think the real problem is that people aren't willing
to become semi-vets themselves in order to care for their cats.
That is, the biggest mistake is to trust a vet from a position of
ignorance. These days, with the internet, there's no dearth of
useful information. Read up on it, and *ask* the vet. If a vet
can't answer questions to your satisfaction, don't complain.
Just find another vet.
| That being said, anyone know a good vet in Brooklyn, NY?
Yes. Brooklyn is a large place. Email me.
| Any comments about a Peter Rosenberg, Dr. Osterman,
| Dr. Hunziker, or the numerous other places?
Jon Hunziker is both a general practice vet and an opthalmology
specialist. He solved my kitten's eye problem, and another time,
he made an incredibly good call to save a feral juvenile's life.
He has a somewhat academic air. Ask him a question, and he will
patiently explain all the details. However, be prepared to wait:
he can run late because he likes to be thorough. IMHO, he is a
good vet.
| After a blood work up, my bill came to $375 (before any dental
| surgery as I couldn't see putting the poor thing through it
| without another opinion).
A blood panel (sent to a lab) shouldn't run more than about $75,
if that much. How much did you pay just for examination?
| The 2nd vet said he saw saw very minor gum inflammation and
| didn't think any surgery was necessary, and if there was any
| needed - he would recommend a dental vet specialist with the
| Animal Medical Center here in NYC.
The AMC is the single most expensive outfit in NYC. That isn't
to say that they don't have good people. They certainly do.
Mary - 10 Jul 2004 17:04 GMT
> Sometimes I think the real problem is that people aren't willing to become
semi-vets themselves in order to care for their cats. That is, the biggest
mistake is to trust a vet from a position of ignorance.
And plain old laziness. The same reasons people place blind trust in
physicians then are surprised when they get hurt or get substandard care.
And, incidentally, the very same reasons people subscribe to the mob
mentality by simply following the crowd and/or regularly sterotyping people
into broad, easy categories. Making distinctions based on informed thought
is just too hard. Wahhh. :)