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Barricading my balcony. Half-funny, half-serious.

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kaeli - 08 Jul 2004 15:12 GMT
Okay, so Rowan, my little *darling* (cough, cough), has decided that she
REALLY wants to be on the balcony. If the door is open, she does
whatever she has to do to get out there. She just sits there and watches
the world go by. She doesn't do anything evil that I've noticed. But I'm
still really, really nervous about her falling (it's on the second
floor) as we are in a pretty busy area with cars, dogs, and other things
I don't want her to get into. If she fell, she probably wouldn't get
hurt, but she might decide to take a walk. If she did, she probably
*would* get hurt. There's lots of cars here and she's not very afraid of
them. She is terrified of strangers and might run into traffic if
someone was trying to catch her. So, I want to keep her off the balcony
when I'm not home.
What this currently means is that despite the pretty nice weather we've
been having, I have to shut the door and turn on the AC when I'm gone.

I have a screen door, of course, but the little *princess* claws a hole
in it to get out if the glass door is open.
I tried taping up the screen. She took off the tape.

I tried putting a baby gate in front of the taped up screen. She figured
out how to move the gate, remove the tape, and squeeze through the hole
in the screen.

Yesterday morning, I dragged the big ferret cage that's out on the
balcony all the way up to the screen door. I then put the baby gate in
between the cage and the screen door so that it was on the outside. I
hoped this would keep her from being able to move it aside. I then
closed the screen and re-taped it. Then I put the cat condo in front of
the whole deal. I came home from work and all was well, except the tape
had been played with. But it seemed to work.
Well, I woke up this morning and there was Rowan, out on the balcony,
watching birds and having a grand old time. The screen's hole was
widened, the condo moved, and somehow, she managed to move the gate and
ferret cage just enough to squeeze through onto the balcony. I still
don't know how she fit through there.
*sigh*
If I wasn't so worried about what would happen if she fell off, I'd
think it was cute and quite funny.

So, I closed the glass door and turned on the AC before I left this
morning.

Anyone have any ideas on what the heck I can do to the screen to make it
a bit more cat proof? She loves the balcony and I let her go out there
when I'm home. I'm not trying to discourage her from liking it out
there. It's one of the highlights of her little life. I want her to have
a good time and be a happy kitty. Just not on my balcony when I'm not
home.

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Magic Mood Jeep? - 08 Jul 2004 15:49 GMT
I saw at Lowe's once some replacement screening, that they claimed was 'pet
proof'.

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> Okay, so Rowan, my little *darling* (cough, cough), has decided that she
> REALLY wants to be on the balcony. If the door is open, she does
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> a good time and be a happy kitty. Just not on my balcony when I'm not
> home.
kaeli - 08 Jul 2004 19:30 GMT
> I saw at Lowe's once some replacement screening, that they claimed was 'pet
> proof'.

We don't have a Lowe's near here that carries that, but you got me
thinking.
I found this. I wonder if I could manage to rescreen my door with it...

http://www.safetyzone.com/product.asp?sid=
7C5GGQCNLN648M0XXK2WWP9SS07L8618&pf%5Fid=148794zz&dept%5Fid=1050

Works in theory...

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Sunflower - 08 Jul 2004 15:55 GMT
With a couple of two by fours and some hardware cloth (bigger wire mesh) you
could enclose a portion of the balcony in where she would be safe to view
birds to her heart's content while you were gone.   Just make the entrance
through the patio door.  YOu can use a piece of plywood fitted in the track
of the sliding door and then fit it with a cat flap.  Run the cage as close
to the balcony edge as you can and give her something to perch on.
Attaching a bird feeder to the outside of the balcony railing would either
be catTV or cruel, depending on your outlook.
Karen - 08 Jul 2004 16:10 GMT
Where does she sit when she is on the balcony? On the railing? Would
anything like this work?
www.catfencein.com. I guess no matter what, I would just close the door
when I am not home and keep her in. For more reasons than just keeping her
in actually. Just seems like a better idea.

> Okay, so Rowan, my little *darling* (cough, cough), has decided that she
> REALLY wants to be on the balcony. If the door is open, she does
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> a good time and be a happy kitty. Just not on my balcony when I'm not
> home.
kaeli - 08 Jul 2004 19:36 GMT
> Where does she sit when she is on the balcony? On the railing? Would
> anything like this work?
>  www.catfencein.com. I guess no matter what, I would just close the door
> when I am not home and keep her in. For more reasons than just keeping her
> in actually. Just seems like a better idea.

She sits nice on the "floor" and not on the railing, at least when I see
her, but I just don't like the idea of her out there when I'm not home.
sh.t happens, you know? It only takes once for her to fall, get scared,
run, and get hit by a car or something. It's not like she can get back
up to home if she falls and I'm not there to rush down and grab her. Or,
god forbid, she jumps on purpose trying to get a bird or squirrel. She's
got all the makings of a great little hunter. If we lived somewhere
where I felt safe to let her go in a backyard, she'd be bringing me all
kinds of nasty dead things, I'm sure. *g*
At least she is used to going on walks and knows where her home is if
she did happen to fall, but still.

Call me paranoid. If I had kids, they'd probably be neurotic. *laughs*

I'm going to check into the idea of "pet proof" screen doors...

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Karen - 08 Jul 2004 20:37 GMT
Oh no. I would never let her be out there with out me being home or leave
the door open with just a screen. I am totally with you.

> > Where does she sit when she is on the balcony? On the railing? Would
> > anything like this work?
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>
> I'm going to check into the idea of "pet proof" screen doors...
MaryL - 08 Jul 2004 18:03 GMT
> Okay, so Rowan, my little *darling* (cough, cough), has decided that she
> REALLY wants to be on the balcony. If the door is open, she does
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> a good time and be a happy kitty. Just not on my balcony when I'm not
> home.

My brother and sister-in-law installed some deer-proof fencing (works so
far!) around their property.  It is a type of vinyl that a cat could not
climb, and it is barely visible unless you are standing directly in front of
it.  I think you could use something like that to enclose the balcony and
yet not create an unsightly view.

MaryL
kaeli - 08 Jul 2004 19:37 GMT
> My brother and sister-in-law installed some deer-proof fencing (works so
> far!) around their property.  It is a type of vinyl that a cat could not
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> MaryL

I honestly just don't want her out there when I'm gone. Knowing her,
she'd discover sitting on the railing.

I love this idea for a yard, though. If I ever get one, I'm keeping it
in mind.


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MaryL - 08 Jul 2004 20:01 GMT
> > My brother and sister-in-law installed some deer-proof fencing (works so
> > far!) around their property.  It is a type of vinyl that a cat could not
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> I love this idea for a yard, though. If I ever get one, I'm keeping it
> in mind.

No, I wouldn't want her out there, either, unless you are with her.  I had
this idea more as a safety feature, in case she gets out sometime without
your seeing her.

MaryL
Mary - 08 Jul 2004 18:57 GMT
> Okay, so Rowan, my little *darling* (cough, cough), has decided that she
REALLY wants to be on the balcony.

Kaeli, I wonder if you might secure the balcony by using some sort of mesh
or screening between the bars? Or are you afraid she will jump up and fall
off the railing?
kaeli - 08 Jul 2004 20:52 GMT
> > Okay, so Rowan, my little *darling* (cough, cough), has decided that she
> REALLY wants to be on the balcony.
>
> Kaeli, I wonder if you might secure the balcony by using some sort of mesh
> or screening between the bars? Or are you afraid she will jump up and fall
> off the railing?

That's exactly what I'm afraid of.
If I block the rails, might she decide to go up? I caught her up there
two years ago, when I first moved in, and didn't let her out there again
for over a year. When I started letting her out again, she behaved and I
haven't seen her try it since. But this is the cat that knocks down the
fireplace grate (heavy) to see what's inside. She's just very, very
playful, active, and curious. She's 4 years old and still chases her own
tail when she's in the mood. She's actually a delight, really, but her
curiosity can get her into trouble.
She'd probably be thrilled to death to be a barn cat.

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Barb - 08 Jul 2004 19:11 GMT
Thieves and worse can enter through a second floor open terrace door so I
would lock it while asleep or out if I were you.

You can get a plastic see through attachment for the screen slider at a pet
or hardware store.  It can cover the bottom half leaving the top screen
bare.  It has to be screwed onto the slider so a drill and screw driver is
needed.

I was watching the Home and Garden channel and a few times I have seen
people in a rather high up terrace with a cat that apparently was free to go
out there.  I was wondering about that.

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kaeli - 08 Jul 2004 20:48 GMT
> Thieves and worse can enter through a second floor open terrace door so I
> would lock it while asleep or out if I were you.

I'm not overly worried about that. They have too many first floor condos
to choose from to want to bother with my place. *heh*
Plus, I have a dog that sounds like she'll kill you. She's friendly, but
people don't know that hearing her. Burglars like to choose easy
targets. There's first floor units with no dogs, so why pick the hard
place?
Not to mention the fact that I live in a super-low crime area with lots
of nice, but nosey, neighbors.

> You can get a plastic see through attachment for the screen slider at a pet
> or hardware store.  It can cover the bottom half leaving the top screen
> bare.  It has to be screwed onto the slider so a drill and screw driver is
> needed.

She'd hit the top.
She's done it already when I put something to block the hole.
Determined little sh.t. *g*

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---MIKE--- - 08 Jul 2004 23:23 GMT
Another solution would be to get the "hardware cloth" (a 1/4 inch wire
mesh) and put that over the present screen.  There is no way a cat could
put a hole in hardware cloth.

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kaeli - 09 Jul 2004 14:25 GMT
> Another solution would be to get the "hardware cloth" (a 1/4 inch wire
> mesh) and put that over the present screen.  There is no way a cat could
> put a hole in hardware cloth.

Any ideas how to attach it to the screen or the door?
And where to get this "hardware cloth"? Can I get it right at Home Depot
or Menards? (if you know)

She's been eyeing the screen on the window...
*sigh*
Little shithead. *grins*

Good thing I love her to death. This is why nature made cats so darn
cute. So we don't eat them when they're evil. *giggles*

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Mary - 09 Jul 2004 15:15 GMT
> She's been eyeing the screen on the window...
> *sigh*

Kaeli--If you gave her a cat perch (mount on the window sill sort of thing)
and opened the window, making sure the screen was secure, wouldn't this
work? This is what my girls love. They never bother the screens. These are
1st and 3rd floor windows.
kaeli - 09 Jul 2004 16:32 GMT
> > She's been eyeing the screen on the window...
> > *sigh*
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> work? This is what my girls love. They never bother the screens. These are
> 1st and 3rd floor windows.

She has a perch. The window is right behind my dressing table and is
often open. She sits on the sill or the table all the time (as do the
other two). She has broken out of it before to sit on the small ledge
outside the room, but not lately. (scared the holy bejees out of me with
that one, she did)

Their cat tree is also right next to the patio doors.

Neither of the other cats do this. Just her. She was trained to go
outside on walks and adores it, so it's just that she likes to be
outside. I can't blame her. I like to be outside, too.

I actually feel like a shithead for trying to keep her in, since she so
obviously loves it, but it just isn't safe to let her go out there
unattended.

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