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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / July 2004Frequency of BM's
OK, this really has me wondering. From the other thread, Dally's vet says 4 BMs a day is normal. Now, I'm pretty positive my cats AT MOST *MIGHT* have two a day and very ocassionally a day is skipped. I was reading a page on megacolon just now and they suggest "adjusting dosage of laxative so cat has bowel movement at least every other day", so this also leads me to think it's normal to have maybe one BM a day for a cat. What do others find is normal for their cats? > What do others find is > normal for their cats? Cheeky, free-fed dry but never finishing even a cup a day, plus 1.5 three-ounce cans of Fancy Feast (not my fault she LOVES it and I can't bear to take it away--yet!) does two every day and on occasion three. I don't clean Buddha's box often enough to know--my husband takes care of hers. As I said above--Gnarly did maybe one bm a day on dry Science Diet Maintenance. > OK, this really has me wondering. From the other thread, Dally's vet says 4 > BMs a day is normal. Now, I'm pretty positive my cats AT MOST *MIGHT* have [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it's normal to have maybe one BM a day for a cat. What do others find is > normal for their cats? One/day per cat. Cathy > One/day per cat. > > Cathy They eat (dry) SD Light & SD Senior. Cathy > > One/day per cat. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Cathy Mine eats 1 small tin of Nutro canned and free feed kibble (Wellness Lite) and has a BM once a day and pees twice. Judy My one cat has one per day. Almost like clock-work, same time every day. My other cat goes at least once a day, sometimes twice a day. I also think that 4 times a day is a bit excessive and is not the norm. I'll wait to see what others say. Sue > OK, this really has me wondering. From the other thread, Dally's vet says 4 > BMs a day is normal. Now, I'm pretty positive my cats AT MOST *MIGHT* have [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it's normal to have maybe one BM a day for a cat. What do others find is > normal for their cats? > so this also leads me to think >it's normal to have maybe one BM a day for a cat. What do others find is >normal for their cats? My 2 guys average about 1 a day. They eat Hills Prescription ID wet with a little ID dry for snacks. When they had regular Hills SD canned my one cat had much bigger stools but still went once a day generally. -mhd >>so this also leads me to think >>it's normal to have maybe one BM a day for a cat. What do others find is [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > When they had regular Hills SD canned my one cat had much bigger > stools but still went once a day generally. But was frequency greater when they were under a year old? Dally >But was frequency greater when they were under a year old? You may have a point there but I think 4 times is a bit much. I think it's diet related and as long as the stools look normal I wouldn't make too much of a big deal out of it. Maybe he is marking his territory since you let visitors use that bathroom. -mhd Didn't have Lucy here til she was 2; but in the 5 years since, never more than once, and sometimes misses a day. Only 8 pounds, eats 95% canned plua a little ground up dry mixed in. Eats about 1 1/3 cans a day. > Didn't have Lucy here til she was 2; but in the 5 years since, never > more than once, and sometimes misses a day. Only 8 pounds, eats 95% > canned plua a little ground up dry mixed in. Eats about 1 1/3 cans a > day. Mine eat mostly canned too. I wonder if that is a factor. 70% water and the rest mostly usable nutrition. Could be less waste than with dry. >>But was frequency greater when they were under a year old? > > You may have a point there but I think 4 times is a bit much. I think > it's diet related and as long as the stools look normal I wouldn't > make too much of a big deal out of it. The explosive diarrhea thing was a one time thing but his stools are often soft, maybe half the time. It's been consistant since I got him - they've been runny on a few occasions, but they're well-formed as often as they're soft: usually during the same day. I still clean his litter boxes out every day, but I gave up trying to keep his boxes completely free of all clumps (which was one idea why he might not be using his litter boxes) and went back to leaving at least one clump in there so he knows where he's supposed to go. That not only seems to not bother him, but I was truly overwhelmed by cleaning his litterboxes four or five times a day. > Maybe he is marking his territory since you let visitors use that > bathroom. Certainly possible. By the way, the bathroom door was inadvertantly left open three times today and the cat didn't get in any of the three times. I suspect he was just elsewhere when the opportunity arose, though. But each time I saw the door open I reacted with a sinking heart, sure there was another present. I closed it each time. I think the old warped wood door (they're from the 1880's) are hard to close tightly. And if it isn't closed tightly the cat noses his way in. I agree that keeping the door closed is an expedient idea. I just don't agree that I can declare the solution that I'll just keep the door closed and pick up sh.t whenever any of a dozen people don't do it right. But I'll certainly look into door closers. Dally >>> But was frequency greater when they were under a year old? >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > (they're from the 1880's) are hard to close tightly. And if it isn't > closed tightly the cat noses his way in. This still makes me think possible problem with him and his food. You said you feed dry, but you don't free feed. Could you try the canned Wellness kitten food? Honest, it could be a factor. > I agree that keeping the door closed is an expedient idea. I just don't > agree that I can declare the solution that I'll just keep the door > closed and pick up sh.t whenever any of a dozen people don't do it > right. But I'll certainly look into door closers. > > Dally > in article 2l6aueF945ecU1@uni-berlin.de, Dally at dally@myself.com wrote on > This still makes me think possible problem with him and his food. You said > you feed dry, but you don't free feed. Could you try the canned Wellness > kitten food? Honest, it could be a factor. Another thing I didn't mention is that I usually drizzle water over his dry kibble. I'm not dismissing your ideas - I'll look into wet food. I have wet food in the house, but I tend not to feed it for a variety of reasons that made sense to me that don't relate to his BM's. But I can re-evaluate. Dally >I'm not dismissing your ideas - I'll look into wet food. I have wet >food in the house, but I tend not to feed it for a variety of reasons >that made sense to me that don't relate to his BM's. But I can re-evaluate. > >Dally What would those reasons be? Health-wise, there's no reason not to feed wet food. Even if you don't want to feed it exclusively, a 50-50 mix with dry is better than dry all the time. Sherry >>I'm not dismissing your ideas - I'll look into wet food. I have wet >>food in the house, but I tend not to feed it for a variety of reasons [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > food. Even if you don't want to feed it exclusively, a 50-50 mix with dry is > better than dry all the time. I've discussed with Megan the food issue and I'm going to take her advice. I'm really not prepared to debate the wet/dry debate with you guys right now. Dally > I agree that keeping the door closed is an expedient idea. I just don't agree that I can declare the solution that I'll just keep the door closed and pick up sh.t whenever any of a dozen people don't do it right. But I'll certainly look into door closers. Good. > OK, this really has me wondering. From the other thread, Dally's vet says 4 > BMs a day is normal. Now, I'm pretty positive my cats AT MOST *MIGHT* have [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it's normal to have maybe one BM a day for a cat. What do others find is > normal for their cats? Both my previous cat and current one had/have BM's once a day. So for me - one BM a day is normal. > OK, this really has me wondering. From the other thread, Dally's vet says 4 > BMs a day is normal. Now, I'm pretty positive my cats AT MOST *MIGHT* have [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it's normal to have maybe one BM a day for a cat. What do others find is > normal for their cats? Mine each go once a day, on average. Skipping a day is not overly unusual for the girls. For my boy, going twice a day is also not overly unusual. Not surprisingly, my boy eats more than my girls. The girls went more when they were kittens, though. Like 2 or 3 times a day. I adopted my boy as an adult, so I couldn't say about him.  Signature-- ~kaeli~ Never say, "Oops!"; always say, "Ah, interesting!" http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > OK, this really has me wondering. From the other thread, Dally's vet says 4 > BMs a day is normal. Correction, she didn't seem concerned about it. I believe she made some off-hand comment about it being normal for kittens. "Normal" is a pretty loaded term. More like "within the range of normal" would be a more reasonable interpretation. I cleaned out his litterbox last night before going to bed, just as I do every night. Three distinct BM's, one I'm not sure about (please don't make me go into details) and five or six urine clumps. That was in 24 hours across two litter boxes AND he had sh.t on the floor the prior evening. Frankly, I'm stunned by this, too. It's like it's his hobby or something. My former cat had two litter boxes and generally went outside - I cleaned the boxes twice a week at most. Odin is an indoor cat and I figured maybe our older cat just went outside more than I suspected. > Now, I'm pretty positive my cats AT MOST *MIGHT* have > two a day and very ocassionally a day is skipped. I was reading a page on > megacolon just now and they suggest "adjusting dosage of laxative so cat has > bowel movement at least every other day", so this also leads me to think > it's normal to have maybe one BM a day for a cat. What do others find is > normal for their cats? Do you have any children? You learn early that they're all different. Just because 90 people here pipe up and say their cats go once a day doesn't mean my kitten is - what? I mean, what are you getting at? That's he's ill in ways that you've discovered that the vet hasn't? That I'm a pathological liar/troll because this couldn't be true? I mean I don't know what your point is. Dally >> Now, I'm pretty positive my cats AT MOST *MIGHT* have >> two a day and very ocassionally a day is skipped. I was reading a page on [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >That I'm a pathological liar/troll because this couldn't be true? I >mean I don't know what your point is. I think karen was just expounding on the informal survey that was being taken in this thread. In other words 1 BM a day is considered typical. Diets have also been discussed and dry food I believe results in more voluminous stools. Also the consensus is that kittens probably go more often than adults. Also no 2 cats are alike. -mhd > > OK, this really has me wondering. From the other thread, Dally's vet says 4 > > BMs a day is normal. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Dally No, I started this because I was curious what does fall in the normal range. It's soemthing I hadn't considered before. Though your thread made me wonder about this, the universe does not revolve around you alone. This thread is because I WONDER WHAT PEOPLES EXPERIENCE WITH NUMBER OF BM'S IN THEIR CATS ARE. End of story. >> OK, this really has me wondering. From the other thread, Dally's vet says 4 >> BMs a day is normal. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > "Normal" is a pretty loaded term. More like "within the range of > normal" would be a more reasonable interpretation. Kittens eat more food, and more frequently, so I would expect them to go more frequently than adult cats. I don't know what the range of normal is for adult cats, but I imagine it is similar to the range for adult humans, and depends somewhat on diet. Normal bowel function for adult humans is anywhere from 3 times a day to 3 times a week. Dry food produces a larger volume of waste than canned. Signaturejamie (jamiemck@newsguy.com) "There's a seeker born every minute." "jamie" <jamie@spam-me-silly.net> wrote> > I don't know what the range of normal is for adult cats, but I imagine it is similar to the range for adult humans, and depends somewhaton diet. Normal bowel function for adult humans is anywhere from 3 times a day to 3 times a week. This is true. And I don't believe that one time a day is normal for an average adult cat. I've cleaned cat boxes for six cats who went more than once a day. Nobody can be that unlucky. > OK, this really has me wondering. From the other thread, Dally's vet says 4 > BMs a day is normal. Now, I'm pretty positive my cats AT MOST *MIGHT* have [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > it's normal to have maybe one BM a day for a cat. What do others find is > normal for their cats? Most cats sh.t AM and PM. Believe me, I have cleaned up enough cat sh.t over the years to have made this observation. -L. |
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