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Rant: People Who Dump Cats

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Sherry - 06 Jul 2004 07:47 GMT
Rant On.
We found two baby kittens in the flowerbed this morning. We live in the
country, with no close neighbors. They didn't walk here by themselves. Someone
dumped them.
This isn't the first time. Or the second or third. I hate people who dump
animals. Hate isn't a word I use very often, but I hate them. These babies are
tiny, probably not 10 weeks old. Do people think a 10-week-old kitten can fend
for itself? The are *very* well socialized. They were relatively in good shape,
except for being covered with fleas, ticks and stickers.
The last dumped cat, no, wait, it was two dumped cats ago, the one before
Biskit was sealed up in a cardboard box in the drive. Nice touch, to make sure
the cat didn't wander off too far.
What kind of a lazy-assed person won't  drive to a shelter and relinquish
animals. And what kind of mentality thinks *I* should take responsibility for
their animals.
But you what? I did. I bathed them and fed them and brought them in the house.
Now I don't have a clue what to do with them. Kitten season is hard this year.
Shelters are over-run.
If they hadn't wandered up here, they'd have starved, together. I would rather
see these jackasses put a bullet in a cat's head than dump it to starve.
I took some pictures to make a poster with. Thought I'd share them. Rant over.
Thanks for listening.
http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/graykittens2.jpg
http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/graykitten1.jpg

Sherry
MaryL - 06 Jul 2004 10:12 GMT
> Rant On.
> We found two baby kittens in the flowerbed this morning. We live in the
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>
> Sherry

Oh, what adorable kittens.  This is so sad!  I just can't imagine how people
can be so cruel as to dump such innocent little babies.

Thank you for all that you do for these helpless kittens.

MaryL
Sherry - 06 Jul 2004 16:01 GMT
>Oh, what adorable kittens.  This is so sad!  I just can't imagine how people
>can be so cruel as to dump such innocent little babies.
>
>Thank you for all that you do for these helpless kittens.
>
>MaryL

Mary, I am so discouraged. It's always one step forward and two steps back.
Right now it's hard to find a room in this house that there isn't a cat in it,
and I'm spending myself into the poorhouse. And there's always another
scraggly, emaciated stray around the corner. I used to rather enjoy
rehabilitating a stray, I enjoyed watching them blossom and it was rewarding to
find them a good home. Now I'm just overwhelmed. The shelter is full to the
seams with cats/kittens. If we have a good day and adopt six out, there's nine
incoming. Someone came in just yesterday, had been to Walmart and came out to
find somebody had put a box of 6 baby kittens in the back of their truck. In 98
degree heat. I'm just sick of all of it.

Sherry
MaryL - 06 Jul 2004 16:46 GMT
> >Oh, what adorable kittens.  This is so sad!  I just can't imagine how people
> >can be so cruel as to dump such innocent little babies.
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>
> Sherry

Sherry, do you have a branch of O'Malley Alley Cats near you, or do you know
of anyone who might take the initiative to start one (be forewarned that it
takes a *lot* of time an effort).  We have one here, and they do wonders --
TNR for adult and unadoptable ferals with numerous feeding stations and
shelters around town, foster families for kittens and cats that might be
socialized, etc.  They also can become overwhelmed, as you said, but they
have done wonderful things in adopting out cats that otherwise would have
been euthanized or abandoned.

MaryL
MacCandace - 07 Jul 2004 04:50 GMT
<< We found two baby kittens in the flowerbed this morning. We live in the
country, with no close neighbors. They didn't walk here by themselves >>

Awsww, I agree with everyone ese, how precious.  I'm sorry, sometimes it just
doesn't seem fair, and it's not.

You've probably seen this before, but I like it:

"I looked at all the caged animals in the shelter...the cast-offs of
human society. I saw in their eyes love and hope, fear and dread,
sadness and betrayal. And I was angry. "God," I said, "this is terrible!
Why don't you do something?" God was silent for a moment and then He
spoke softly. "I have done something," He replied. "I created you."
The Animals' Savior Copyright-Jim Willis 1999

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human."  (Loren Eisely)
Mary - 06 Jul 2004 16:34 GMT
>Rant On.
>We found two baby kittens in the flowerbed this morning. .

They're so beautiful! Where are you?
Sherry - 06 Jul 2004 16:48 GMT
>>Rant On.
>>We found two baby kittens in the flowerbed this morning. .
>
>They're so beautiful! Where are you?

South of Oklahoma City. You can't miss us. It's the house with a cat in every
window.

Sherry
Mary - 06 Jul 2004 17:21 GMT
Sherry wrote :

>South of Oklahoma City.

Don't know how I missed that.

>You can't miss us. It's the house with a cat in everywindow.

Ahh, the most elegant "ornamentation!"

I know your shelters are overcrowded, but my god these
are lovely kittens. Someone would adopt them if their
photos were posted.  But the dilemma is that they would
then displace two other kittens that might be adopted.
*Sigh* It never ends. Last night while we snuggled with
Cheeky and played with her, I rhapsodized on about
how unthinkable it is that there are hundreds of millions
of gray mackeral tabbies that look just like her, and
are in most ways just as entertaining and funny and
lovely. My husband said, "It is, and even worse, the
thousands who are euthanized every day just in NC."

Wish I could help. I have to say that I am glad the
f*ckheads who dropped them dropped them on you.
Goat Roper - 06 Jul 2004 17:29 GMT
My family and I used to own a small farm near Kansas City, MO.  One day I
was climbing up the ladder into the barn loft when I heard the sound of
something "hissing" behind me.  I turned VERY slowly to not startle whatever
it was, and I found a mother cat and six kittens.  The kittens were no more
than a week or so old, and the mother had probably not eaten since the
kittens were born.  She was probably dumped by some useless jerk because she
was pregnant.

I went to get her some cat food and some water.  It was sad in one way to
watch her "inhale" the food, but I was gratified to find that she would
immediatly let me, my wife, and my children pet her and even do a one finger
per on her babies.  We kept feeding her, and one day she took the
opportunity to move the kittens into our basement while I had the garage
doors open.  It was then official, we had been adopted!  When the time was
right, we didn't have any trouble finding good homes for the kittens.

We named her Tammi, had her fixed and she was quickly accepted by our two
other cats, and especially our golden retreiver dog.

She was a real blessing for the 15 or so years she lived with us!

Allen
PawsForThought - 06 Jul 2004 18:17 GMT
>From: "Goat Roper" xxxxx@sssss.fffff

>We named her Tammi, had her fixed and she was quickly accepted by our two
>other cats, and especially our golden retreiver dog.
>
>She was a real blessing for the 15 or so years she lived with us!

She sounds lovely, Allen :)

Lauren
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Karen - 06 Jul 2004 18:19 GMT
What wonderful people you are!

> My family and I used to own a small farm near Kansas City, MO.  One day I
> was climbing up the ladder into the barn loft when I heard the sound of
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>
> Allen
Sherry - 06 Jul 2004 18:42 GMT
>  We kept feeding her, and one day she took the
>> opportunity to move the kittens into our basement while I had the garage
>> doors open.

Awww. Smart mama. That's a wonderful story. What a lucky cat.

Sherry
Cowa Bungie - 08 Jul 2004 23:22 GMT
"Goat Roper" <xxxxx@sssss.fffff> wrote in message news:<orAGc.66058

> She was a real blessing for the 15 or so years she lived with us!

Your story was a real blessing for me, because my former stray is @15
years old, and it was great to hear someone else talk about an old
coo-o-  I mean an old cat as a "blessing."

Sherry, my heart goes out to you.  I happen to be a Fundamentalist
Christian, and you know what makes me doubt my faith the most?
Stories like yours.  If you believe as I do, your response to such a
painful situation is, Well, Jesus, if You're really going to come
again, why don't you get off your divine Butt and get busy
establishing the paradise where the innocent will no longer suffer?

I'm very sorry if I offend anyone by speaking so bluntly, but (as some
of the people who've responded to this thread will know) I've also had
a *major* animal-related heartache this week--see my post about an
alcoholic pet-collecting relative.  I'm spiritually exhausted this
week, and since my God just happens to have a name and personality,
I'm mad as H!&l at Him tonight.

Please don't read further if you're easily offended, but know what my
prayer is tonight?  "Poo or get off the pot, Jesus.  Enough suffering.
Enough, enough, enough."
Sherry - 09 Jul 2004 00:19 GMT
>Please don't read further if you're easily offended, but know what my
>prayer is tonight?  "Poo or get off the pot, Jesus.  Enough suffering.
> Enough, enough, enough."

Yeah, well, maybe there was a verse or two inadvertently left out of the Good
Book. Somthing like "Woe be unto the fool who dumps baby kittens on thy
neighbor the crazy cat lady. Thy punishment will be swift and sure, and thou
shalt spend eternity in a big stinky litterbox that hasn't been changed in a
year."

Sherry

Sherry
Mary - 09 Jul 2004 00:34 GMT
> Yeah, well, maybe there was a verse or two inadvertently left out of the
Good Book. Somthing like "Woe be unto the fool who dumps baby kittens on thy
> neighbor the crazy cat lady. Thy punishment will be swift and sure, and
thoushalt spend eternity in a big stinky litterbox that hasn't been changed
in a year."

LOL!!
Luvskats00 - 09 Jul 2004 03:46 GMT
Judging from the amount of incredible suffering in the world; that one man can
live in a billion dollar mansion and groups of children can't get food or
medicine for even one day, that segments of crazed people can behead/slaughter
others in the name of God, and so forth...doesn't seem that there's a ceiling
or limit on the way it's going....nor, will there ever be a ceiling or limit.
PawsForThought - 06 Jul 2004 18:12 GMT
>From: sriddles@aol.comkitty  (Sherry )

>http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/graykittens2.jpg
>http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/graykitten1.jpg

OMG, they are absolutely adorable, Sherry!!!  I don't understand how anyone
could dump these precious babies :(

Lauren
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Karen - 06 Jul 2004 18:28 GMT
I still cannot get over how really beautiful they are. I think Sherry will
have happy news soon

Karen

> >From: sriddles@aol.comkitty  (Sherry )
>
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> http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
> Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
Arjun Ray - 06 Jul 2004 20:12 GMT
| http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/graykittens2.jpg
| http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/graykitten1.jpg
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| *very* well socialized. They were relatively in good shape,
| except for being covered with fleas, ticks and stickers.

They're gorgeous.  In fact, they look exotic enough that, with
them being so well socialized already, I suspect they're from a
breeder, perhaps even one with ambitions of respectability.

Just in case, maybe you should first tell the police about having
found them (so no one can argue, they're yours right now) and
then make inquiries about breeders in your area who might have
suddenly "lost" some kittens (or worse, adopted some out too
young to people who changed their mind.)
Sherry - 06 Jul 2004 22:38 GMT
>They're gorgeous.  In fact, they look exotic enough that, with
>them being so well socialized already, I suspect they're from a
>breeder, perhaps even one with ambitions of respectability.
>
>Just in case, maybe you should

Do you think, Arjun? I know it's hard to tell from a one-dimensional photo, but
they look more just like longhaired moggies to me. But then I don't know much
about breeds.
It's certainly no problem to check with police. I'd probably have heard about
stolen/missing kittens via the shelter, though. But I don't mind checking.
The thing is, somebody brought them up to the house. They had to. Our house is
1/4 mile off the road with a private drive entrance. I just don't think they
would have ended up here otherwise. Our closest neighbor is 1/2 mile; any
others are nearly 2 miles. OTOH, they were covered in stickers, which would
indicate they either traveled or somebody had them that just didn't take care
of them. They had fleas so bad the water was red when I bathed them from the
flea dirt. But they're fairly fat. It's a mystery.
I'm just guessing somebody knows me and figured it was a good way to get rid of
them.

Sherry
Arjun Ray - 07 Jul 2004 02:03 GMT
|> They're gorgeous.  In fact, they look exotic enough that, with
|> them being so well socialized already, I suspect they're from a
|> breeder, perhaps even one with ambitions of respectability.

| Do you think, Arjun? I know it's hard to tell from a one-dimensional
| photo, but they look more just like longhaired moggies to me.

Granted.  I'm just guessing.  Longhairedness is a recessive gene,
so you don't find that many longhairs of random parentage.  Two
from the same litter, with the same coloring, though?  Short tail,
solid stubby legs, slight Persian cast to the face, exotic "blue"
coloring -- they really look like a breeder's effort, maybe at a
cross of some kind.  Now I'm beginning to think that these two may
have been "failures", so to speak.  (Maybe not Persian enough?)

| But then I don't know much about breeds.

Neither do I, but I've seen plenty of moggies, and these two are
quite unusual.  Or at least, they look it in the photos.  But
again, I'm just guessing.

| The thing is, somebody brought them up to the house.

That really sucks.  Someone is taking advantage of you.

| they were covered in stickers, which would indicate they either
| traveled or somebody had them that just didn't take care of them.
| They had fleas so bad the water was red when I bathed them from
| the flea dirt. But they're fairly fat. It's a mystery.

You should get them looked at.  They may look fat but still be
dehydrated from exposure.

| I'm just guessing somebody knows me and figured it was a good
| way to get rid of them.

Is there a regular "dump spot" in your area?  That's where they
may have picked up the fleas.  Even wilder theory: someone dumped
them there, someone else found them, didn't know what to do but
knew you.
MaryL - 07 Jul 2004 03:26 GMT
<snip>
> -- they really look like a breeder's effort, maybe at a
> cross of some kind.  Now I'm beginning to think that these two may
> have been "failures", so to speak.  (Maybe not Persian enough?)

That's what happened to Holly.  A breeder mixed Persian and Oriental
Shorthair in an attempt to create a "new" breed.  Holly was destined to be
destroyed simply because she wasn't the right color -- the breeder
specifically wanted dusty gray, and Holly is solid black.  She is gorgeous,
but that apparently wasn't "good enough" for the breeder.  Fortunately, a
woman who works at a local pet supply store talked the breeder into letting
her take Holly (called "Jinx" for "bad luck" at that time) and try to find
someone to adopt her.  The timing was just right because my beloved Amber
had died at the age of 16, and I wanted to adopt another cat.

MaryL
Luvskats00 - 07 Jul 2004 06:30 GMT
>That's what happened to Holly.  A breeder mixed Persian and Oriental
>Shorthair in an attempt to create a "new" breed.  Holly was destined to be
>destroyed simply because she wasn't the right color -- the breeder
>specifically wanted dusty gray, and Holly is solid black.

Is the breeder licensed?  Can the AKC do anything? I don't think legitimate
breeders are allowed to go around and attempt to create new breeds.
MaryL - 07 Jul 2004 06:37 GMT
> >That's what happened to Holly.  A breeder mixed Persian and Oriental
> >Shorthair in an attempt to create a "new" breed.  Holly was destined to be
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> Is the breeder licensed?  Can the AKC do anything? I don't think legitimate
> breeders are allowed to go around and attempt to create new breeds.

I don't know the name of the breeder.  All of this was told to me by the
woman who rescued Holly, and she didn't want to divulge any names -- so I
have only her word for the assertions.  I did ask my vet once if Holly's
fur, body shape, etc. could fit with this claim; and he said "yes" (which
doesn't necessarily mean the story is true, but it did seem true at the time
it was told to me -- and had nothing to do with my decision to adopt Holly).

MaryL
Sherry - 07 Jul 2004 10:41 GMT
>> >That's what happened to Holly.  A breeder mixed Persian and Oriental
>> >Shorthair in an attempt to create a "new" breed.  Holly was destined to
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>
>MaryL

I don't doubt it's true. Anybody can call themselves a "breeder" and do
whatever they want to even if  their "efforts" are recognized by CFA, TICA or
whatever. . Look at that horrible twisty cats woman. I'm not sure about *how*
new breeds are created, or how they come to be legitamate recognized breeds but
I bet there's a lot of poor "rejects" along the way.
Sherry - 07 Jul 2004 11:01 GMT
>I don't doubt it's true. Anybody can call themselves a "breeder" and do
>whatever they want to even if  their "efforts" are recognized by CFA, TICA or
>whatever. .

Woops. Replace "are" with "aren't"

Sherry
Sunflower - 07 Jul 2004 22:28 GMT
> Is the breeder licensed?

Are you that seriously out of touch?  Breeders don't have "licenses".  Any
idiot with two intact animals can breed and make new crosses or any damn
thing they please.  *If* the two animals happen to be the same breed, then
the progeny can be registered with whatever registration body they were
originally registered with, providing the breeder doesn't owe them money or
something.  Or one of the "make up your own breed and we'll register it for
you" sanctioning bodies will happily provide "papers" for the new Orange
Tail-less Alleycats with Folded Ears.  Just pay them the money.  ANd then
you can sell, sell, sell!

Can the AKC do anything?

Um, AKC is the American Kennel Club, and they don't have squat to do with
cats. They have a hard enough time trying to resolve squabbles within the
dog community.  Just look at what's happened with JRTs.

I don't think legitimate
> breeders are allowed to go around and attempt to create new breeds.

People do any damn thing they please.  Breeding of dogs and cats in this
country isn't "controlled" by any governing body that could administer
handslaps to it's naughty individuals.  "Legitimate breeders" as you term it
would not condone many practices that BYB do, but they don't have any
control or influence either.  Only the public with it's mighty dollar
purchasing power has any influence over cretinous activity.  If somone won't
buy something, then it will no longer be produced.  As long as BYBs are
receiving the positive reinforcement of dollars, they'll continue to do
whatever they want to do.  Including making trial matings to produce new
breeds and then dumping the kittens that aren't up to their mysterious
specifications.
-L. : - 08 Jul 2004 08:10 GMT
>  
> >
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> originally registered with, providing the breeder doesn't owe them money or
> something.

Or if the "breeder" merely has registration numbers of a male and
female, s/he can register the litter regardless of which animals are
bred.

> Or one of the "make up your own breed and we'll register it for
> you" sanctioning bodies will happily provide "papers" for the new Orange
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> breeds and then dumping the kittens that aren't up to their mysterious
> specifications.

Gee, someone who actually understands.  Nice to meet you.

-L.
Dermuid - 07 Jul 2004 03:42 GMT
: |> They're gorgeous.  In fact, they look exotic enough that, with
: |> them being so well socialized already, I suspect they're from a
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
: them there, someone else found them, didn't know what to do but
: knew you.

I like theories, here's two more, there must have been more than 2 kittens,
see if you can find the rest of the litter.
If you want to find out where the 2 you have could have come from, circulate
some photos to the pet clinics in and around your area, given the markings
and fur colour, long haired, the adult versions parent/s should be easy to
find as they are not your average run of the mill moggies.
-L. : - 07 Jul 2004 08:42 GMT
> >They're gorgeous.  In fact, they look exotic enough that, with
> >them being so well socialized already, I suspect they're from a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Do you think, Arjun? I know it's hard to tell from a one-dimensional photo, but
> they look more just like longhaired moggies to me.

To me too.  Cute, though.  Wish I could take them.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.  It's tough.

-L.
m. L. Briggs - 06 Jul 2004 21:43 GMT
>r
They are two beautiful little balls of fluff with innocence and trust
in their eyes.  May whoever dumped them suffer for the action.  MLB
Sherry - 06 Jul 2004 22:28 GMT
>>r
>They are two beautiful little balls of fluff with innocence and trust
>in their eyes.  May whoever dumped them suffer for the action.  MLB

You're so nice, ML. I was going to say something more like "May they rot in
hell."

Sherry
Cheryl - 07 Jul 2004 02:50 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav",
Jul 2004:

> We found two baby kittens in the flowerbed this morning. We live
> in the country, with no close neighbors. They didn't walk here
> by themselves. Someone dumped them.

Sherry, this must be so frustrating for you. I know it's happened too
many times. :(  I can't stay online long because I've got power
problems in my house (gggggggrrrrrr f'n power company) and the guy
from there told me I shouldn't hook up my laptop to power but the
battery doesn't last long enough.  Anyway, they are beautiful and
even though you are frustrated and angry, they are there because
someone knew you would do something. No, not fair. But they are there
now, and you have taken them in and your resources are limited. Purrs
that you can find them homes.  I saw them and it took my breath away.
I would take them if I could. Just like the rest. :(

Signature

Cheryl
/leaving all other posts unread until I can find an electrician, or
the neutral goes back together or whatever.

disgruntled hamster - 08 Jul 2004 16:12 GMT
What beautiful kittens! Though the responsibility never should have
fallen on you, I imagine you'll have no problem finding wonderful
homes for these two.. particularly if they're well socialized.

As far as the longhair trait being present in mixed-breeds, depends on
the area you live in. In southern New England, for example, (where I'm
from), longhaired cats of mixed parentage are very, very common. Many
of the strays and ferals trapped here- including a very handsome boy I
own who probably would have been nearly identical to these two as a
young kitten- are gorgeous longhairs. In fact, (somebody correct me if
I am wrong!) I believe the Maine Coon breed actually originated from a
population of large, random-bred attractive longhair kitties that were
prevalent in Maine. If you travel to other parts of the country, or
other parts of the world, there are definite differences in the
appearances of the mixed-breed cat population, including differences
in the prevalence of certain colors, builds, and coat types.

My guess is that somebody didn't bother to get their cat/s spayed /
neutered, and either had a larger litter, wasn't able to quickly home
all the kittens and was too damn lazy to do the responsible thing and
find good homes for them.. or only had two survivors and was still too
damn lazy to do the responsible thing and find good homes for them.

If you have a problem with selfish, irresponsible people taking
advantage of your kindness and dropping cats and kittens off at your
doorstep on a regular basis, I don't know where you live, but in many
places, this is considered an act of cruelty, and if you are able to
trace any of the cats / kittens back to their original owners, it's
punishable by law.

All three of my cats are in one way or another, a product of the
abandonment problem in our area- (one was born to an abandoned cat we
trapped, one was feral, and one was left out in the rain overnight in
the parking lot where I work in a little cardboard box that was duct
taped shut and labeled with something along the lines of ‘Abandoned
Kitty. Left Here and Nobody Wanted Her.') It makes me sick to think of
the things that each of these cats experienced (traumatic injuries,
untreated potentially dangerous birth defects, coyote attacks, minor
brain injury and resulting behavior issues from an emergency C-section
because "mom" was too small and young to carry the massive tom's
equally massive kittens to term and birth them naturally), and sicker
to think of all the cats out there who weren't so lucky.

It's time for these people to take responsibility for their actions..
low cost (and in some areas, even free) spay and neuter programs are
available nationally, and there are numerous shelter and foster groups
out there, though it may take a little searching to find one who's
able to take the kittens- there's absolutely no need for anyone to
dump their cats.

</end rant.
-L. : - 09 Jul 2004 02:26 GMT
> What beautiful kittens! Though the responsibility never should have
> fallen on you, I imagine you'll have no problem finding wonderful
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> the area you live in. In southern New England, for example, (where I'm
> from), longhaired cats of mixed parentage are very, very common.

I think they are common all over.  I have worked shelters literally
across the country and you always see all types of kittens come
through - all colors of the rainbow, patterns and fur length.  That's
why I have to laugh at people who say they want a purebred because of
the way it "looks".  99% of the time during kitten season you can find
the "look" of just about any purebred in a moggie wannabe from your
local shelter.

-L.
Tracy - 09 Jul 2004 07:49 GMT
"I believe the Maine Coon breed actually originated from a
population of large, random-bred attractive longhair kitties that were
prevalent in Maine"

That is correct. A point I often make. The "breed standard" in the
early years of the century were to certify that both the cats parents
were also long-haired cats.
Elizabeth Blake - 07 Jul 2004 04:26 GMT
> Rant On.
> We found two baby kittens in the flowerbed this morning. We live in the
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> for itself? The are *very* well socialized. They were relatively in good shape,
> except for being covered with fleas, ticks and stickers.

I live in a very urban area, and found my Otto out on the street four years
ago.  He was huddled behind bars outside a basement window of my building,
which my bedroom window overlooked.  His cries woke me up and I tried going
back to sleep for a couple of hours (it was early) but couldn't.  Finally
got up, got dressed and went outside.  He was about six months old at the
time.  I pulled him out from behind the bars, he crawled up to my neck and
started purring.  He definitely came from a home, because he was clean, very
friendly, and knew what the litterbox was for.  Several days after I found
him, I saw another kitten, the same size as Otto (but a beautiful female
tabby) across the street.  I don't remember where I was going but I was in a
big hurry.  I did stop to pet her, and she began to follow me up the street.
I knew that she had to be Otto's sister, and that someone probably dumped
them outside.  They were about six months old, and I guess they weren't too
cute anymore.  I searched for the female tabby when I got back home and
couldn't find her.  I found an empty cat food can by where I first saw her,
so I hope someone took her in.  I actually had a nightmare about her that
night.  To this day, I say to Otto, "I can't believe someone threw a
perfectly good cat like you out".

There are strays in my neighborhood (I live across the street from a big
park) and seeing them doesn't affect me the way Otto and the little tabby
did.  The strays run from people, but these cats definitely were thrown out.
I really wish I had been able to find the tabby, even though three cats in
my small apartment would have been too much.

I also think that people who just throw away unwanted animals deserve a
special place in hell.

Liz
.oO rach Oo. - 07 Jul 2004 04:39 GMT
Those kittens are beyond adorable. I guess the long and short is, there are
a lot of people in the world that are simply not willing to take
responsibility for anything. Not themselves, not their actions, not their
children, not their animals.  My one kitten was found behind a grocery store
that is literally across the street from a shelter. If the previous a.shole
owner didn't want her, why not cross the street or turn left instead of
right... whatever... and drop her off in a place she would be cared for.
Same with her step sister.  A block from the shelter eating mice instead of
a slight amount of effort to make sure she was safe. People are a.sholes.

Not to sound trite, but even though it's a challenge, in the long run you
are better off. You're the better person.  That's a lot of positive energy.

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> Rant On.
> We found two baby kittens in the flowerbed this morning. We live in the
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>
> Sherry
Alison - 07 Jul 2004 10:54 GMT
> But you what? I did. I bathed them and fed them and brought them in the house.
> Now I don't have a clue what to do with them. Kitten season is hard this year.
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>
> Sherry

Hi Sherry ,
     They are absolutely beautiful! How could any one dump themor any
kitten for that matter? I wish you could send them over here, they
would be snapped up.
Good luck with finding them a home.
     Alison
Kalyahna - 11 Jul 2004 03:41 GMT
> Rant On.
> We found two baby kittens in the flowerbed this morning. We live in the
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>
> Sherry

My aunt has a little old house out in the country. She has a dog, several
horses, but she's surrounded by woods. There ARE bears in her area - she's
seen them cross her property - and people still dump fully grown non-feral
cats on her property. Hell, people dump cats off close to my mom's because
she lives in farming country and there's a barn behind the house. In a
society where it's okay to tie a dog overnight to a shelter door, I don't
have much hope. Our shelter is staying open hours later than usual this
weekend in a last-ditch effort to get more cats adopted out. Thursday night,
we got in 8 cats after 6 pm (the doors close at 7). We were there until 9
pm, running around to move cats and find space and get meds done and clean
cages and move more cats... Someone actually surrendered a mom cat and one
kitten... because the other kittens maybe had homes already. It's a sad day
when the best you can think is "at least we got the mom, too, and she won't
have any more litters." But the bubble is burst when you consider the very
slight chance that all the other kittens in that litter will never be
altered and will get out or be let out and will breed. If more people
realized that animal shelters are quite literally trying to put themselves
out of business... gah. There are no words for the frustration and sorrow.
 
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