This had been happening for a while then stopped now he is doing it
again. When I'm trying to go to sleep the cat starts to scratch on a
cabinet in my bedroom like when they want you to open a door. There
is nothing in the cabinet, consequently nothing to interest him. He
only does this when I'm trying to sleep. I keep a squirt bottle by
the bed and shoot him whenever he starts. Now he stop's and runs away
when I reach for the bottle but he still starts the scratching again.
It's getting to be a real problem. The cycle of scratch, squirt,
doze, scratch, squirt doze....can go on for hours. If I lock him out
of the room he scratches the door.
I don't want to give him away or have him put down but this has to
stop. I am literally losing sleep over this.
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Cat Protector - 05 Jul 2004 08:00 GMT
Have you tried having a play session with him before you go to sleep?

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> This had been happening for a while then stopped now he is doing it
> again. When I'm trying to go to sleep the cat starts to scratch on a
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> Mark Heaely
> marknews(at)healeyonline(dot)com
Luvskats00 - 05 Jul 2004 13:08 GMT
The twit (Mark Healey) who uses the nickname die@spammer.die writes
>..."When I'm trying to go to sleep >the cat starts to scratch on a
>cabinet in my bedroom like when >they want you to open a door...I >keep a
squirt bottle by the bed and >shoot him whenever he starts.
>...It's getting to be a real problem. >...I don't want to give him away or
have him put down but this has to
>stop...."
It sounds like you have absolutely no clue that this squirt bottle has been
useless....you keep using it despite the failure of this method. You actually
are thinking to "put him down" for this behavior that is not too far from a
normal type behavior. Why do you have any pets at all? Your cat sounds like he
is bored. Maybe some exercise and attention to tire him out might help. You
probably don't have a clue that cats are nocturnal and don't go by our
timeclock. If there's nothing in this cabinet, why not leave it open? If the
cat scratches at the door, can you pad the door to muffle the scratches? You
didn't list any positive reinforcement or behavior modification that didnt'
involve punishment.
Mary - 06 Jul 2004 17:08 GMT
Luvskats00 wrote in message
<20040705080805.12124.00001100@mb-m01.aol.com>...
>The twit (Mark Healey) who uses the nickname die@spammer.die writes
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>It sounds like you have absolutely no clue that this squirt bottle has been
>useless....
You don't know much about Mark Healey, do you?
MacCandace - 05 Jul 2004 19:48 GMT
<< I don't want to give him away or have him put down but this has to
stop >>
Please don't kill your cat for normal cat behavior. How old is he? If he's a
kitten, he will eventually calm down. Play with him before bed as others
mentioned and leave the cabinet open. Have you tried ear plugs? Get him toys
he can play with at night in the other room, a tall cat tree, a way to look out
windows, etc.
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Cat Protector - 05 Jul 2004 19:53 GMT
I agree not to kill an animal for normal behavior. Besides when you fall
asleep you hardly hear them scratching. Al;so maybe besides playing with the
feline before bedtime that the human should consider getting another feline
for this cat to play with.

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> Please don't kill your cat for normal cat behavior. How old is he? If he's a
> kitten, he will eventually calm down. Play with him before bed as others
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> "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
> than human." (Loren Eisely)
Dennis Carr - 05 Jul 2004 19:52 GMT
> I don't want to give him away or have him put down but this has to
> stop. I am literally losing sleep over this.
Open the cabinet.

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Sherry - 05 Jul 2004 20:21 GMT
>> I don't want to give him away or have him put down but this has to
>> stop. I am literally losing sleep over this.
>
>Open the cabinet.
Brilliant. The voice of reason. I love that solution. It's exactly what I'd do.
Sherry
-L. : - 06 Jul 2004 10:08 GMT
> >> I don't want to give him away or have him put down but this has to
> >> stop. I am literally losing sleep over this.
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>
> Sherry
<shaking head in disbelief>
And to think the guy is considering euthing the cat....
-L.
MadHatter - 06 Jul 2004 16:24 GMT
>>> I don't want to give him away or have him put down but this has to
>>> stop. I am literally losing sleep over this.
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>
>Sherry
yes and one can also get earplugs
-L
Dermuid - 06 Jul 2004 17:16 GMT
: >> I don't want to give him away or have him put down but this has to
: >> stop. I am literally losing sleep over this.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
:
: Sherry
Better still, put the cabinet in another room and he can scratch all he
wants then.
MaryL - 06 Jul 2004 17:05 GMT
> : >> I don't want to give him away or have him put down but this has to
> : >> stop. I am literally losing sleep over this.
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> Better still, put the cabinet in another room and he can scratch all he
> wants then.
That assumes that the cabinet is not permanently mounted...but I still like
the suggestion to just leave the cabinet door open (being sure that there is
nothing dangerous inside). Holly can open every cabinet door in the house,
and I frequently find them open. It's not a problem at all, and a little
"help" for this cat might solve the nighttime problem.
MaryL
Cat Protector - 06 Jul 2004 18:15 GMT
Just make sure the cabinet doesn't close on the cat though. A closed cabinet
with a cat inside could be dangerous because of lack of air.

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> That assumes that the cabinet is not permanently mounted...but I still like
> the suggestion to just leave the cabinet door open (being sure that there is
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>
> MaryL
Sherry - 06 Jul 2004 18:41 GMT
>Just make sure the cabinet doesn't close on the cat though. A closed cabinet
>with a cat inside could be dangerous because of lack of air.
Oh, no worry. Most cabinet doors don't latch when closed, and aren't airtight
and anyway, the cat is going to set up a howl if he can't get out.
Sherry
MaryL - 06 Jul 2004 19:38 GMT
> Just make sure the cabinet doesn't close on the cat though. A closed cabinet
> with a cat inside could be dangerous because of lack of air.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> >
> > MaryL
Holly opens my cabinet doors easily and could also easily push them open
from the inside -- they are not heavy. My first cat (years ago) is the one
that amazed us. If visitors stayed too long, he would "let us know": he
would put his paw under a closet door to open it, go inside, turn around,
and use his paw to close the door! We thought it was coincidence at first,
but eventually learned that it was a clear signal that "time is up." They
are so clever!
MaryL
Mary - 06 Jul 2004 20:06 GMT
MaryL :
> If visitors stayed too long, he would "let us know": he
>would put his paw under a closet door to open it, go inside, turn around,
and use his paw to close the door!
This is really cute! Cheeks does what many cats do. When I am making
breakfast for she and Boo, she saunters around the kitchen opening cabinets
(they are on magnetic catches). But when she heats the sound of the can
opening she is front and center. By that time every bottom cabinet is open.
Why does she open them? Because they are CLOSED, of course.
Tracy - 05 Jul 2004 20:26 GMT
Hi Mark,
I don't want you to have to give away or put down the cat over this,
either. It's normal cat behavior. That said, yes people need to sleep,
so let me ask you a few questions and make a few suggestions. Firstly,
how old is the cat? If it's under a year old, then you're probaboy
just looking at kitten behavior that will mitigate in a pretty short
period of time. Like human babies, cat babies can't sleep through the
night. Secondly, how long have you had the cat? If the cat came to you
recently, then it probably just hasn't acclimated to your schedule and
it will, in time. Our schedules are opposite to a cats natural
schedule (make a ruckus at dawn and dusk and hunt during the night and
snooze during the day), so it does take some time living with the
humans to adjust to how things are done around your house.
Things you can try: I agree that if the cat digs the cabinet, that you
might as well leave it open if there's nothing inportant in there. Why
not? You've probably created a game with the squirt bottle by now
(i.e. cats goal is to avoid being squirted, not to avoid the behavior
causing the squirting), so forget that and try some new techniques.
Firstly, do play with the cat a bit before bedtime. Sometimes 15
minutes is enough to relax a cat and send it into mellow zone during
the period you are falling asleep. Secondly, do express some dismay in
cat terms when the cat wakes you up. He needs to understand that you
don't like it - i.e hiss at the cat when he pisses you off. They know
EXACTLY what that means. If hissing doesn't stop the behavior, then
the next thing I'd try is a time out. Namely if the cat engages in the
behavior, you hiss, and the cat does it again, then gently pick him
up, bring a toy and a blanket and the food and place him in another
room with all doors closed (an extra bedroom or the bathroom). He may
make some noise, but let him spend the night there. My guess would be
that the next night or even the night after that, he'll stop the
behavior immediately when you hiss or get up and move towards him. You
should be able to discourage it in just a few days.
It is possible that you simply have a very bright and energetic cat
and if he's home by himself all day, he may just be too jazzed in the
evening to be able to sleep all night. It may well be that a 2nd cat
would keep him occupied during the day so he wouldn't sleep all day
and therefore zing around all night. Assuming this is an indoor cat,
that may well be his problem.
Good luck and try to hang in there and improve the situation. The cat
is only expressing a desire to interact with you. He just doesn't have
his timing down yet.
---MIKE--- - 05 Jul 2004 22:42 GMT
Cats hate loud noises. Get a large can and put a handful of marbles or
pennies in it. When the cat makes a noise, shake the can hard. He will
run from the room. After a few nights of this he will probably leave
you alone.
---MIKE---
MadHatter - 06 Jul 2004 16:26 GMT
>Cats hate loud noises. Get a large can and put a handful of marbles or
>pennies in it. When the cat makes a noise, shake the can hard. He will
>run from the room. After a few nights of this he will probably leave
>you alone.
>
> ---MIKE---
well, my kitten courldn't care less for loud noises, especially if she
realizes they are coming from my direction.
-L
m. L. Briggs - 05 Jul 2004 23:05 GMT
>This had been happening for a while then stopped now he is doing it
>again. When I'm trying to go to sleep the cat starts to scratch on a
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>I don't want to give him away or have him put down but this has to
>stop. I am literally losing sleep over this.
Perhaps he wants to sleep in the cabinet. Open it and make a little
space for him. It might solve your problem. MLB
Mark Healey - 06 Jul 2004 08:00 GMT
> This had been happening for a while then stopped now he is doing it
> again. When I'm trying to go to sleep the cat starts to scratch on a
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I don't want to give him away or have him put down but this has to
> stop. I am literally losing sleep over this.
Not to worry. I couldn't put him down. I was writing 5 hours before
I had to get up for work.
The cat is three or four. I don't like the noise idea because his
brother is usually curled up on by back and purring when this happens
and I don't want to discourage that.
He doesn't like mellow petting but he will go ape sh.t with massive
forhead rubbing when his head is scratched and he never gets tired
of it. He hates to be held and wond sit on anyones lap but will sleep
on a prone persons chest.
I guess I'll try to tucker him out with the laser pointer.
--
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Mary - 06 Jul 2004 17:34 GMT
Mark Healey wrote in message ...
>Not to worry. I couldn't put him down. I was writing 5 hours before
>I had to get up for work.
What a short memory some folks have. How could anyone who remembers your
wonderful posts and pictures think you could be serious? I chalked it up to
frustration on your part. Understandable frustration.
>The cat is three or four. I don't like the noise idea because his
>brother is usually curled up on by back and purring when this happens and I
don't want to discourage that.
>He doesn't like mellow petting but he will go ape sh.t with massive
>forhead rubbing when his head is scratched and he never gets tired
>of it. He hates to be held and wond sit on anyones lap but will sleep
>on a prone persons chest.
>
>I guess I'll try to tucker him out with the laser pointer.
I do this with oour girls every night just for exercise. I assume you have
tried opening the cabinet?
Sherry - 06 Jul 2004 23:18 GMT
>I do this with oour girls every night just for exercise. I assume you have
>tried opening the cabinet?
That's a good solution, too. Sometimes a behavior just turns into a power
struggle between the owner & cat. And we alread know the cat is going to win.
I don't get it, really, the big deal. Open the cabinet! Frank likes to get in
the linen closet. He gets up there by opening the drawer at the bottom,
standing on it, and opening the cabinet door. First he opens the drawer
<<scratch scratch scratch SQUEAK SQUEAK SQEAK.>>
OK. Drawer is open. He's standing on it. Now for the tall door, which is on a
hinge and doesn't latch.
<scratch scratch scratch BANG BANG>>
Dang. Almost got it. But he has to open it wide enough for the hinge not to
bang it back shut.
<<scratch scratch scratch>> BANG BANG.
Silence.
He got it. Now he has to throw all the pillowcases and towels out. He sleeps
there the rest of the night.
It's just one of those familiar noises that you get used to. I use plenty of
Old English to cover up the scratches, though.
Sherry
Mark Healey - 07 Jul 2004 06:32 GMT
> Mark Healey wrote in message ...
> >
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> wonderful posts and pictures think you could be serious? I chalked it up to
> frustration on your part. Understandable frustration.
Either I have an evil twin or I'm the evil twin. All my posts have
been questions or attempts at answering the questions of others. I've
never posted pictures.
Someone posted:
"You don't know much about Mark Healey, do you?"
This makes me think that someone believes that I'm posting something
evil.
Go figure.
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Mary - 07 Jul 2004 17:28 GMT
Mark Healey :>
>Either I have an evil twin or I'm the evil twin. All my posts have
>been questions or attempts at answering the questions of others. I'venever
posted pictures.
Damn! I must be having another senior moment, and I'm not a senior! Who is
the Mark who has the beautiful pack of ferals he cares for? He posts here
and also in alt.binaries.pictures.animals.
Turns out I was giving you too much credit. However, you really didn't
intend to euthanize your noisy cat, so no harm done.