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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / July 2004Arizona Humane Society Needs Cat Food
The Arizona Humane Society is badly in need of cat food, both dry and canned because of the large number of injured, abused, sick, and pregnant cats they have been taking in. You can read all about it at www.azhumane.org.  SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com circa Wed, 30 Jun 2004 23:36:42 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cat Protector (catprotector@cox.net) said, > The Arizona Humane Society is badly in need of cat food, both dry and canned > because of the large number of injured, abused, sick, and pregnant cats they > have been taking in. You can read all about it at www.azhumane.org. How much have you given them? Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde >From: Laura R. UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com >rec.pets.cats.health+behav, >Cat Protector (catprotector@cox.net) said, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Laura I'd like to know the answer to that too. To CP - as much as I'd like to be able to give to every state's humane society, I cannot afford to do so. Therefore, I will be supporting my own local rescue facility. Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > >From: Laura R. UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I'd like to know the answer to that too. IMO, that's pretty crappy thing to ask. Who cares how much s/he has given them? The agency needs help, s/he posted their plea - IMO that's a nice thing to do. Why does everything have to be so freaking combative? Sheesh. -L. circa 2 Jul 2004 22:11:47 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, -L. : (usenetlyn@yahoo.com) said, > > canned > > >> because of the large number of injured, abused, sick, and pregnant cats [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Sheesh. Because CP is in the habit of posting things that *other* people "should" do without doing them himself. _That's_ why. I will bet you doughnuts to dollars that he hasn't given so much as one piece of kibble, yet he's telling other people to do so. He has a long history of letting cats suffer that he could have helped, but which he didn't hesitate to harangue others about. To wit: there were cats abandoned in CP's apartment complex, and he kept posting about how they were being fed *hot dogs* by god-knows-who. His apartment complex had *given him permission to exceed their two-cat limitation and had asked him to please foster these cats temporarily*. He refused, yet he continued to post here whining about these poor abandoned cats. He is a hypocrite beyond anything I've seen, and he's a freaking nutcase. THAT is why I asked. I, for one, think it's a pretty crappy thing to let two cats die because you refuse to help them when you've not only been asked to do so, but have been given the means to do it. And that is exactly what he did. The cats "disappeared" eventually, without CP having done a damned thing to save them, but with him posting constantly about how awful his neighbors were for abandoning them, or for not taking them in. He is a disgusting hypocrite, and I'm sick to death of his claims that his "radio show" "saves" cats. He doesn't do a damned thing to save cats. I asked the question *because* it was CP who posted the information. And it's a question he deserves to be asked. Laura SignatureWhat is the use of straining after an amiable view of things, when a cynical view is most likely to be the true one? -George Bernard Shaw << I will bet you doughnuts to dollars that he hasn't given so much as one piece of kibble, yet he's telling other people to do so. >> He delivered a case of canned cat food and some dry food to the AZ Humane Society today and his post caused at least one other person to donate. I think no one of us can save them all; everyone does what he/she can. And I'm not certain those cats at his complex died. Did someone say that at some point? I have feral cats outside, I feed them but I don't bring them all in. In fact, I've only ever made one of our outdoor feral cats into an indoor cat. Some people would say I'm not doing enough, too. Are we all helping every single cat we ever see? Candace (take the litter out before replying by e-mail) See my cats: http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other than human." (Loren Eisely) Well we did have a cat die at this complex but it might have been a coyote attack. I went looking for these cats but never saw them. However, despite coyotes some here still let their cats out. No. I can't save them all but it sure makes me feel good knowing I am doing something. I don't worry about the detractors on this group. It is obvious they have nothing better to do in life than pick on others. They accomplish nothing by doing so. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > << I will bet you doughnuts to dollars that he hasn't given so much as one > piece of [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > "One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other > than human." (Loren Eisely) circa Sat, 3 Jul 2004 09:04:04 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cat Protector (catprotector@cox.net) said, > Well we did have a cat die at this complex but it might have been a coyote > attack. I went looking for these cats but never saw them. See? Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde circa 03 Jul 2004 06:24:18 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, MacCandace (maccandace@aol.comlitter) said, > He delivered a case of canned cat food and some dry food to the AZ Humane > Society today And would he have done so had he not been called on his hypocricy? Or would he again cry poverty? > and his post caused at least one other person to donate. I think > no one of us can save them all; I never said anybody could. > everyone does what he/she can. CP tends to do a lot more preaching and a lot less actual *doing*, IMO. > I'm not > certain those cats at his complex died. Did someone say that at some point? I > have feral cats outside, I feed them but I don't bring them all in. In fact, > I've only ever made one of our outdoor feral cats into an indoor cat. These weren't ferals. They were cats that had been abandoned when their owners moved, and despite CP's complex asking him if he would please foster them and telling him that they would relax their rules to allow him to do so, he wouldn't do it. Period. > Some > people would say I'm not doing enough, too. Are we all helping every single > cat we ever see? Not my point. My point is, CP spends too much time telling others to do things that he isn't willing to do himself. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde > circa 2 Jul 2004 22:11:47 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, -L. : > (usenetlyn@yahoo.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Laura What an enormous waste of "breath." Post what you like. Or perhaps you give a Republican's a.s what a.sholes like Megan, Kelly H., Cheryl and "L" think this group should be and how everyone should or should not post. I sure don't. > What an enormous waste of "breath." Post what you like. Or perhaps you give > a Republican's a.s what a.sholes like Megan, Kelly H., Cheryl and "L" think > this group should be and how everyone should or should not post. I sure > don't. What a nice group I'm in! Wonderful people who truly care for cats and take time to help others. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net Check out www.snittens.com > > What an enormous waste of "breath." Post what you like. Or perhaps you > give [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > What a nice group I'm in! Wonderful people who truly care for cats and take > time to help others. Yep. :) And we would all do more if we could, I'm sure. :) -L. > What a nice group I'm in! Wonderful people who truly care for cats and take time to help others. This is Usenet, as yet uncensored. All kinds of people post here. Get over it. In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", "Mary" <rosefan@email.com> artfully composed this message within <news:saxFc.123673$tH1.4337930@twister.southeast.rr.com> on 03 Jul 2004: > Or perhaps you give > a Republican's a.s what a.sholes like Megan, Kelly H., Cheryl > and "L" think this group should be and how everyone should or > should not post. Yet you can't stop bringing my name up with almost every derogatory post you make. I've let the crap drop but if you keep bringing up my name I'll take that back. You're the one that wants to keep the flames going, not me. Get a life. > I sure don't. SignatureCheryl > circa 2 Jul 2004 22:11:47 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, -L. : > (usenetlyn@yahoo.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > doughnuts to dollars that he hasn't given so much as one piece of > kibble, yet he's telling other people to do so. So what? If others contribute because of his post, he's done something positive. I couldn't care less if he didn't contribute himslef- maybe he can't afford to. >He has a long history Can't be all that long becaus ehe hasn't posted all that long. > of letting cats suffer that he could have helped, but which he didn't > hesitate to harangue others about. To wit: there were cats abandoned [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > is a hypocrite beyond anything I've seen, and he's a freaking > nutcase. I remember that situation - not well, but I remember it. I agree I personally would have done something differently - either trap the cats and take them to a shelter, or whatever. But that has nothing to do with him posting this plea for help. > THAT is why I asked. I, for one, think it's a pretty crappy thing to > let two cats die because you refuse to help them when you've not only [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > constantly about how awful his neighbors were for abandoning them, or > for not taking them in. If that's what you're pissed about, then say so. Don't beat up on him for doing something positive. Besides, IIRC, that issue was beaten to death. Let it die already, sheesh. People do things differently. A lot of people don't do what I would have done in animal welfare situations. So what? Most people in this ng at least do *something*, which is a lot more than the general public does. > He is a disgusting hypocrite, and I'm sick to death of his claims > that his "radio show" "saves" cats. He doesn't do a damned thing to > save cats. How do you know? Do you live in his community? Are you personally involved in the situation? The truth is, none of us really knows what any of us do IRL. > I asked the question *because* it was CP who posted the information. > And it's a question he deserves to be asked. > > Laura Whatever. I'm sure most people have not saved every single sick and abandoned animal they have ever come across. People make mistakes, and if he learned from that situation, then good. All I know is that I appreciated him posting this alert so I could send it to my cousin and my nephew. And that's all I care about. Why does everything on this ng have to be turned into a personal attack? It speaks volumes about those doing the attacking. -L. circa 3 Jul 2004 12:23:01 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, -L. : (usenetlyn@yahoo.com) said, > Why does everything on this ng have to be turned into a personal > attack? It speaks volumes about those doing the attacking. And you could simply have ignored what I asked, which would have avoided this entire debate. Glass houses and all that. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde Laura R. wrote in message ... >circa 3 Jul 2004 12:23:01 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, -L. : >(usenetlyn@yahoo.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >And you could simply have ignored what I asked, which would have >avoided this entire debate. Glass houses and all that. No she couldn't. She's a control freak. If it bothers "L" and her little fwends you are not ALLOWED to post it. No calling caca "caca" is allowed! It just isn't NICE. :) circa 3 Jul 2004 12:23:01 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, -L. : (usenetlyn@yahoo.com) said, > >He has a long history > > Can't be all that long becaus ehe hasn't posted all that long. From: "Cat Protector" <catprotector@cox.net> Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.rescue References: <STe28.47626$WQ1.7739389@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: CAT wanted in England Lines: 37 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <iCn38.172$jv2.46025@news2.east.cox.net> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 00:38:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.2.212.184 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cox.net X-Trace: news2.east.cox.net 1011746318 68.2.212.184 (Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:38:38 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:38:38 EST Organization: Cox Communications That's two and a half years right there. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde > > circa 2 Jul 2004 22:11:47 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, -L. : > > (usenetlyn@yahoo.com) said, > >He has a long history > > Can't be all that long becaus ehe hasn't posted all that long. ?? CP's been posting here for years. Cathy > > Laura R. <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in message > news:<MPG.1b5013a728582efb98ad2d@news.verizon.net>... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Cathy Since 2002 - two years to me isn't a "long history". But, whatever. -L. > > > Laura R. <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote in message > > news:<MPG.1b5013a728582efb98ad2d@news.verizon.net>... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > -L. He was posting before 2002. This post was from 3? years ago. --------------------------------------------------------------- Message 3 in thread From: Cat Protector (catprotector@home.com) Subject: Re: Cats and New Years stories View this article only Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats.health+behav Date: 2001-01-05 13:36:49 PS --------------------------------------------------------------- Cathy Laura should be ignored. As for what happened in the past, I posted time and time again (yes because she needs to have it drilled in her head because she always gets her facts wrong) that I went out day after day to find those cats but never saw or found them. The person that told me of the situation was not exactly reliable as it was later discovered. Laura likes to twist and turn things so she can make herself look better than everyone else. She cares little about the facts nor does she care If you don't march to her tune or follow her you are slammed. If you don't agree with her, you are slammed. Get a life Laura instead of bashing someone else for doing something positive. Of course I have to wonder what you do for cats other than piss on everyone else who actually does something to save or help them. What a miserable person you are. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > >He has a long history > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > -L. > Laura should be ignored. As for what happened in the past, I posted time and > time again (yes because she needs to have it drilled in her head because she > always gets her facts wrong) that I went out day after day to find those > cats but never saw or found them. The person that told me of the situation > was not exactly reliable as it was later discovered. You don't have to explain yourself for my benefit. Like I said, the issue was beaten to a pulp before. No matter what one does, there always has to be someone who finds fault with it. Some people aren't satisfied unless they are bitching about something. IMO, if you do *anything* to help animals, you are a good egg. Too many people just don't give a damn. -L. Very true. Thanks for saying that. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > You don't have to explain yourself for my benefit. Like I said, the > issue was beaten to a pulp before. No matter what one does, there [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -L. -L. : wrote in message ... >You don't have to explain yourself for my benefit. Like I said, the >issue was beaten to a pulp before. No matter what one does, there >always has to be someone who finds fault with it. Some people aren't satisfied unless they are bitching about something. Kind of like a.sholes like you who rattle on about every post that doesn't suit you? What a hypocrite. > > >From: Laura R. UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Sheesh. Everyone who is worth a damn is going to post just as they wish if only to piss off control freak a.sholes like you. > -L. > >From: Laura R. UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I'd like to know the answer to that too. IMO, that's pretty crappy thing to ask. Who cares how much s/he has given them? The agency needs help, s/he posted their plea - IMO that's a nice thing to do. Why does everything have to be so freaking combative? Sheesh. -L. Yes it is crappy to ask. I donated quite a bit but there will always be people like Laura who question generosity and knock the person down. I have better things to do than worry about Laura or her cause of hate. The cats need help and that is what matters. I posted that info on plenty of places besides the Web Site and people were pretty thankful to have seen it because they would not have known how bad the need was and they also donated to the Humane Society as well. It has been bad for them during cat and kitten season and food is flying off the shelves fast and they are running dangerously low. I gave what I could and wish it could be more. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > IMO, that's pretty crappy thing to ask. Who cares how much s/he has > given them? The agency needs help, s/he posted their plea - IMO [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -L. > Yes it is crappy to ask. I donated quite a bit but there will always be people like Laura who question generosity and knock the person down. I have better things to do than worry about Laura or her cause of hate. She doesn't hate you. She finds you annoying and you have proven yourself to be a hypocrite, so I think it was a fair question. Laura--once you concede to this kind of crap, see what happens? Any time they like the shrill censors of the group will give you the "why did you say that" bullshit, and all the little spineless a.sholes will jump on the bandwagon. And anyone need "friends" like these because ...? > Yes it is crappy to ask. I donated quite a bit but there will always be > people like Laura who question generosity and knock the person down. I have [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > season and food is flying off the shelves fast and they are running > dangerously low. I gave what I could and wish it could be more. I forwarded it to relatives I have in AZ. I know they will donate, so it did at least *some* good for you to post it. -L. Thanks. I don't worry about the people like Laura and others who do nothing valuable for this group except try to use it as their own political playground to bash others. I'd rather do some good. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > I forwarded it to relatives I have in AZ. I know they will donate, so > it did at least *some* good for you to post it. > > -L. > Thanks. I don't worry about the people like Laura and others who do nothing > valuable for this group except try to use it as their own political > playground to bash others. I'd rather do some good. It's fine that you posted the info. OTOH, "Laura & others" certainly do contribute valuable info to the group. Cathy > > I forwarded it to relatives I have in AZ. I know they will donate, so > > it did at least *some* good for you to post it. > > > > -L. >> Thanks. I don't worry about the people like Laura and others who do >nothing [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Cathy While it's fine and admirable that CP posted on behalf of the shelter, each and every one of us has a local shelter. All shelters run on a shoestring budget and have needs. If everybody posted their own shelter's wish list, it would take up half the postings on the group. Actually, cat food is one thing we never need at our shelter really. We get so many torn bags and returned food from Petsmart, and Purina feed mill calls us regularly to pick up dry food with defective packaging or near expiration, or otherwise can't be sold. We're very fortunate in that respect. I hope the AZ shelter gets a good response. Sherry Sherry > >> Thanks. I don't worry about the people like Laura and others who do > >nothing [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > and have needs. If everybody posted their own shelter's wish list, it would > take up half the postings on the group. That's true, too. Each December the older 12-1-1 (special ed.) class in our elementary building has a drive for the local animal shleter: food, towels, toys - whatever parents/kids/teachers will donate. Whenever I buy new towels or scatter rugs, I bring my old towels & scatter rugs up to the Humane Society. > Actually, cat food is one thing we never need at our shelter really. We get so > many torn bags and returned food from Petsmart, Hmmmm... we now (finally) have a PetsMart here; I wonder if they do this for the shelter(s) in all of their locales? Cathy and Purina feed mill calls us > regularly to pick up dry food with defective packaging or near expiration, or > otherwise can't be sold. We're very fortunate in that respect. I hope the AZ [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Sherry >Hmmmm... we now (finally) have a PetsMart here; I wonder if they do this for >the shelter(s) in all of their locales? > >Cathy It's worth a try. Just go in and ask. Our Petsmart here has a little room they put returns in. They guarantee their cat food, so if someone buys it, cat won't eat it, they bring it back. So there's always large sacks taped-up. Always torn litter bags, taped up. Occasionally toys & treats, and other supplies.. Last time I went there was a gorgeous cat bed, and I still don't know what was wrong with it. If we have a special project or fundraiser, they will always donate a gift card. You just go in, tell them which shelter you're affiliated with and load it up. It's not nearly enough on its own, but it helps. The majority comes from Purina, but when they call, you have to drop everything, hook on a trailer, and *go now* They donate as much as a thousand pounds at a time, but it's hit and miss. Sometimes its Purina One, sometimes just plain old Cat Chow. Sherry circa 03 Jul 2004 17:53:08 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sherry (sriddles@aol.comkitty) said, > It's worth a try. Just go in and ask. Our Petsmart here has a little room they > put returns in. They guarantee their cat food, so if someone buys it, cat won't [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > trailer, and *go now* They donate as much as a thousand pounds at a time, but > it's hit and miss. Sometimes its Purina One, sometimes just plain old Cat Chow. You can also check with distribution centers for grocery stores- a *lot* of food gets damanged in transit and never even leaves the warehouse. Sadly, it's often just thrown away. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde >Whenever I buy new towels or scatter rugs, I bring my old towels & scatter >rugs up to the Humane Society. I wish everybody did that. It's such a small thing but they *never* have enough old towels. Bedspreads/blankets too, for the dogs. I had time to kill and leftover fabric remnants to get rid of, so last week I made "purr pads" for the shelter cats. A large fabric square, with batting in between laced with catnip. It was a real adventure, trying to sew with catnip, with four cats in the house. Sherry > >Whenever I buy new towels or scatter rugs, I bring my old towels & scatter > >rugs up to the Humane Society. > > I wish everybody did that. It's such a small thing but they *never* have enough > old towels. Bedspreads/blankets too, for the dogs. Hmmmm... I think I have an old comforter or two in the guest room closet... Cathy > I had time to kill and leftover fabric remnants to get rid of, so last week I > made "purr pads" for the shelter cats. A large fabric square, with batting in > between laced with catnip. It was a real adventure, trying to sew with catnip, > with four cats in the house. > > Sherry circa Sat, 3 Jul 2004 13:44:53 -0400, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cathy Friedmann (clfr@adelphia.net) said, > > Actually, cat food is one thing we never need at our shelter really. We > get so > > many torn bags and returned food from Petsmart, > > Hmmmm... we now (finally) have a PetsMart here; I wonder if they do this for > the shelter(s) in all of their locales? AFAIK, yes, they do. In fact, for people who really want to help get food to shelters, contacting their local grocery stores, Squallmarts, etc. and offering to transport their damaged bags of food to local shelters is much more likely to produce measureable results than posting to Usenet about *one* shelter needing food. Setting up drop-off points is more effective. Donating unused medication from one's own animals is more effective. Ditto for blankets, etc., as you mentioned. The point is, instead of posting about one single shelter somewhere on the planet needing food, go out and *do* something. I'm quite frankly sick of CP's claims about all he supposedly does. Some of us prefer simply to *do* something instead of claiming that we did. It's not the message I have issue with, people- it's the messenger. And if you're too dense to see that, then there's no point in trying to explain it. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde >In fact, for people who really want to help get food to shelters, >contacting their local grocery stores, Squallmarts, etc. and offering >to transport their damaged bags of food to local shelters is much >more likely to produce measureable results than posting to Usenet >about *one* shelter needing food. Setting up drop-off points is more >effective. Drop-off points are a good idea. I can say with certainty that Squall-Mart won't do a thing. If Squall Mart threw away enough food to feed all the shelter cats, they wouldn't give it us. Some mumbo-jumbo about "liability." It's their policy to throw it away, and toss it they do. It's wasteful and stupid. Sherry > Drop-off points are a good idea. I can say with certainty that Squall-Mart > won't do a thing. If Squall Mart threw away enough food to feed all the shelter > cats, they wouldn't give it us. Some mumbo-jumbo about "liability." It's their > policy to throw it away, and toss it they do. It's wasteful and stupid. > > Sherry Yep. Our local Squall-Mart (love that name, BTW) used to give us damaged/returned bags of food, and also let us have a collection box in the store. Then, they got a new manager, and all that ended. So much for their "we help local communties" crap. Signature-Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net Check out www.snittens.com >Yep. Our local Squall-Mart (love that name, BTW) used to give us >damaged/returned bags of food, and also let us have a collection box in the >store. Then, they got a new manager, and all that ended. So much for their >"we help local communties" crap. It *is* crap. The sad part is, they've put every long-time local grocer out of business here. They can't compete. And *they* were the folks who supported the community, schools, and shelters. Some "help". Thanks, Squall Mart. Sherry Sherry circa 03 Jul 2004 17:34:51 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sherry (sriddles@aol.comkitty) said, > While it's fine and admirable that CP posted on behalf of the shelter, each and > every one of us has a local shelter. All shelters run on a shoestring budget > and have needs. If everybody posted their own shelter's wish list, it would > take up half the postings on the group. EXACTLY. CP could have posted encouraging people to donate to their local shelters, but he didn't. It wouldn't give him that "oh, look how good and magnanimous I am" stick to wave around the next time he goes batshit. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde Laura R. wrote in message ... >circa 03 Jul 2004 17:34:51 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, >EXACTLY. CP could have posted encouraging people to donate to their local shelters I support Snowflake Animal Rescue with cash gifts because they are so wonderful. Like many "no-kill" shelters it is a network of people who foster. One lady has literally given up her entire upstairs to the cats and most of the downstairs to the dogs. There is a sick room where the ones with colds etc. stay and she observes proper sanitation such as having anyone who enters or leaves wipe their shoes with disinfectant. There are three bedrooms converted to cat rooms filled with crated and free cats and cat trees and toys, and a built-on room at the back with a large screened enclosure where the cats can hang out and watch birds and squirrels and get some fresh air. She sometimes socializes ferals by having them live in the bathroom she uses until they become accustomed to her and come to trust her. She has had great success with this. I have never seen this level of dedication, so I love to support this shelter. As much as I love animals I don't think I am generous enough to give over most of my house to them. In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", Jul 2004: > Actually, cat food is one thing we never need at our shelter > really. We get so many torn bags and returned food from > Petsmart, and Purina feed mill calls us regularly to pick up dry > food with defective packaging or near expiration, or otherwise > can't be sold. When I was volunteering for the local SPCA, a local girlscout troup had a fund raiser for animals at the shelter and they hand delivered all the food, litter and toys to an adoption show and met with us to hear about volunteering and what was involved, and learn about over- population and homeless animals. Some of the girls would come to shows after that to help play with the kitties and keep them occupied while they were stuck in cages. What a great thing for groups like the girlscouts to learn about volunteerism, and in particular, one of the "forgotten" ones. SignatureCheryl > In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", > Jul 2004: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > the girlscouts to learn about volunteerism, and in particular, one of > the "forgotten" ones. We did this with the Girls Inc. group I was involved with - the kids loved it, and I think the "message" stuck, IYKWIM... -L. > >> Thanks. I don't worry about the people like Laura and others who do > nothing [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > and have needs. If everybody posted their own shelter's wish list, it would > take up half the postings on the group. Understood, but I for example, have friends and relatives litterally all over the US - only a handful of whom do any volunteer or rescue work, but all of whom like animals. So if somebody posts a need, I'm likely to forward it to those I know will help. If a shelter is in crisis, I don't mind passing the word on. We are all in it together, AFAIC. > Actually, cat food is one thing we never need at our shelter really. We get so > many torn bags and returned food from Petsmart, and Purina feed mill calls us [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Sherry Ditto. :) -L. circa Sat, 3 Jul 2004 09:25:47 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cat Protector (catprotector@cox.net) said, > Thanks. I don't worry about the people like Laura and others who do nothing > valuable for this group except try to use it as their own political > playground to bash others. I'd rather do some good. You are such a fscking moron. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde circa 3 Jul 2004 09:23:12 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, -L. : (usenetlyn@yahoo.com) said, > I forwarded it to relatives I have in AZ. I know they will donate, so > it did at least *some* good for you to post it. I never said it didn't. I asked what CP had donated. And until he was called on it, he hadn't donated anything. Funny, that. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde circa Fri, 2 Jul 2004 23:18:01 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cat Protector (catprotector@cox.net) said, > Yes it is crappy to ask. Hey, CP- f.ck off. Laura SignatureExperience is the name every one gives to their mistakes. -Oscar Wilde Laura R. wrote in message ... >circa Fri, 2 Jul 2004 23:18:01 -0700, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, >Cat Protector (catprotector@cox.net) said, >> Yes it is crappy to ask. >> >Hey, CP- f.ck off. What a nice group I read! Really, Laura. Can't we all just get ALONG? :'p <EG > > >From: Laura R. UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > -L. And it wasn't worth saying twice. Learn to master your newsreader. >The Arizona Humane Society is badly in need of cat food, both dry and canned >because of the large number of injured, abused, sick, and pregnant cats they >have been taking in. You can read all about it at www.azhumane.org. Thanks for posting that. I live in Phoenix and had no idea. Just went and dropped some canned food off. NP. A lot of people in Phoenix don't know about it yet. Luckily having a station for cats helps. SignaturePanther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.members.cox.net/catprotector/panthertek Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com > Thanks for posting that. I live in Phoenix and had no idea. Just > went and dropped some canned food off. |
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