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Kath - 30 Jun 2004 01:34 GMT
Help!  I have tried all the usual methods to keep my fearless feline
off the kitchen counter and nothing is working.  She doesn't mind
being squirted with water, will happily walk on foil or sticky tape,
and loud noises from falling tin cans do not bother her at all.  I
even tried wiping down the counters frequently with a lemon scented
cleanser that she appeared to dislike - the result was very clean
counter tops but she was still hopping up there.  She is only 10
months old and is allowed on every other surface in the house except
the kitchen counters.  That one area I do not want her to go and it
has become "the final frontier".  I am on my last inch of rope but not
ready to give up.  I would really love some new ideas!
Cathy Friedmann - 30 Jun 2004 01:43 GMT
I gave up on this years ago. ;-)  Really.  Some others say they've had
success, but I never did.  And cats on the counters don't truly gross me
out, so I gave up.

Cathy

> Help!  I have tried all the usual methods to keep my fearless feline
> off the kitchen counter and nothing is working.  She doesn't mind
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> has become "the final frontier".  I am on my last inch of rope but not
> ready to give up.  I would really love some new ideas!
Sherry - 30 Jun 2004 02:48 GMT
>I gave up on this years ago. ;-)  Really.  Some others say they've had
>success, but I never did.  And cats on the counters don't truly gross me
>out, so I gave up.
>
>Cathy

Oh, me too. Long ago. My advice would be...just be sure to clean it before you
prepare food. And be sure to act shocked if the cat does it when company comes
over.

Sherry
Cheryl - 30 Jun 2004 03:18 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav",
Jun 2004:

>>I gave up on this years ago. ;-)  Really.  Some others say
>>they've had success, but I never did.  And cats on the counters
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> it before you prepare food. And be sure to act shocked if the
> cat does it when company comes over.

I allow jumping on one counter, because the food is up there to
keep away from Shadow Piggy. I know it is hard for Shamrock (the
counter offender) to understand the difference between one counter
and the other, especially since I give Shadow's meds up on a
counter that is "off-limits" for jumping on. I just don't make a
big deal about it, and he gets down when I say down, and seems to
know the other counter doesn't make me say "down". I can't wait to
see how my mom is going to react when she comes to stay the week
when I go away at the end of the month. :)

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Laura R. - 30 Jun 2004 03:32 GMT
circa Tue, 29 Jun 2004 21:18:54 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Cheryl (jlhshadow@nospamhotmail.com) said,
> > Oh, me too. Long ago. My advice would be...just be sure to clean
> > it before you prepare food. And be sure to act shocked if the
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> see how my mom is going to react when she comes to stay the week
> when I go away at the end of the month. :)

Just leave little notes for her about which counters are okay for
which kitties and which aren't. ;-)

Laura
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Laura R. - 30 Jun 2004 03:32 GMT
circa 30 Jun 2004 01:48:19 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sherry
(sriddles@aol.comkitty) said,
> >I gave up on this years ago. ;-)  Really.  Some others say they've had
> >success, but I never did.  And cats on the counters don't truly gross me
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> prepare food. And be sure to act shocked if the cat does it when company comes
> over.

<cackle> I like that.

I like keeping the cats off the counters better, but that's just
'cause I'm stubborn and anal retentive. ;-)

Laura
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Mary - 30 Jun 2004 04:27 GMT
"Laura R." <UseFirstInitialPlusRobinson@technologist.com> wrote >
> I like keeping the cats off the counters better, but that's just 'cause
I'm stubborn and anal retentive. ;-)

Mine have never tried it, and I'm not sure why. I have found little tiny cat
footprints on the dining room table--clearly Cheeky's since Buddha is too
fat to jump up there.
There is a large window at one end, so she's watching the chipmunks and
rabbits and squirrels and birds, I guess.
Sherry - 30 Jun 2004 05:44 GMT
>I like keeping the cats off the counters better, but that's just
>'cause I'm stubborn and anal retentive. ;-)
>
>Laura

I'm still stubborn about the kitchen table. The steadfast, unflappable rule
here (the only one, actually) is "No cat butts on the kitchen table." They're
actually pretty good. But the dining room table is fair game since we never use
it, and they know it.

Sherry
PawsForThought - 30 Jun 2004 13:31 GMT
>From: sriddles@aol.comkitty  (Sherry )

>And be sure to act shocked if the cat does it when company comes
>over.

LMAO!
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jamie - 01 Jul 2004 05:41 GMT
> I gave up on this years ago. ;-)  Really.  Some others say they've had
> success, but I never did.  And cats on the counters don't truly gross me
> out, so I gave up.

I didn't have a problem training my cats to stay off tables and
counters.

My cats are allowed on beds, sofas, upholstered chairs, but no hard
flat surfaces like tables, counters, desks, dressers, nightstands.
I don't think they can tell the difference between the kitchen counter
and other flat surfaces you allow them on.  

To my cats, they're all "tables."  When they were very young, I clapped
loudly and said, "get off the table."  When they were a little older,
all I had to do was snap my fingers, instead of clapping.  Once they
were a couple of years old, they stopped getting on "tables" at all.

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Laura R. - 01 Jul 2004 16:57 GMT
circa 1 Jul 2004 04:41:41 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, jamie
(jamie@spam-me-silly.net) said,
> I don't think they can tell the difference between the kitchen counter
> and other flat surfaces you allow them on.  

Yes, they can.

Laura
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m. L. Briggs - 30 Jun 2004 03:47 GMT
>Help!  I have tried all the usual methods to keep my fearless feline
>off the kitchen counter and nothing is working.  She doesn't mind
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>has become "the final frontier".  I am on my last inch of rope but not
>ready to give up.  I would really love some new ideas!

Just get some Clorox wipes and clean them before using them.  Cats do
what they please.  Good luck.   MLB
Cheryl - 30 Jun 2004 03:50 GMT
In the fine newsgroup "rec.pets.cats.health+behav", m. L. Briggs
<mlbriggs@nospam.net> artfully composed this message within
<news:3ca4e0pcr0jid2g8i6ca6f4kcc1qkiseoc@4ax.com> on 29 Jun 2004:

> Just get some Clorox wipes and clean them before using them.
> Cats do what they please.  Good luck.   MLB

That's an excellent solution for me, too. I'll leave clorox wipes on
the counter for when my mom is over taking care of my kitties. I
usually just use a sponge with dishwashing liquid on it after each
pilling; weekly deep cleaning, but I know my mom would bawk at that.
:)  

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PawsForThought - 30 Jun 2004 13:35 GMT
>From: m. L. Briggs mlbriggs@nospam.net

>Just get some Clorox wipes and clean them before using them.

I use white vinegar and water to clean my counters.  It works really well and
if the cats do get on the counter and get some on their paws, I don't have to
worry about them getting chemicals on them.  I'm a bit anal about that stuff
anyway.

Lauren
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.oO rach Oo. - 30 Jun 2004 03:47 GMT
I wish I could suggest something new but like I said to my fianc? today " we
have completely lost all control of the house" and he said that we lost it
the day the cats came to live here and that's fine with us. The only thing I
worry about is them jumping on the stove to get to the counter. Delilah is
the only one to do this and never does it while the stove is on. Stella
chooses to jump up my back, sit on my shoulder for a bit then leap to the
counter.

If cats could talk, they'd tell us resistance is futile.

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> Help!  I have tried all the usual methods to keep my fearless feline
> off the kitchen counter and nothing is working.  She doesn't mind
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> has become "the final frontier".  I am on my last inch of rope but not
> ready to give up.  I would really love some new ideas!
Sunflower - 30 Jun 2004 04:37 GMT
> Help!  I have tried all the usual methods to keep my fearless feline
> off the kitchen counter and nothing is working.  She doesn't mind
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> has become "the final frontier".  I am on my last inch of rope but not
> ready to give up.  I would really love some new ideas!

Try a ScatMat, which I believe is available from Drs. Foster and Smith.  In
addition, you can try mouse traps set at the hair trigger so that any jolt
sets them off.  Sometimes because a counter is so solid and a cat is so
light footed, you  may want to balance them on a cookie sheet that's got a
knife under the middle and will rock if touched. Small bubble wrap that is
sprayed with vinegar also sometimes works. If you have barberry or roses or
other thorny plants in your garden, sometimes you can place some cut
branches on teh counter.  Or, you could always leave a couple of  small
saucers of that banana flavored pyrantel wormer on the counter.  My cats
HATE the stuff and hide every time it's time for them to get it.

Cats have different things that they find "yucky" and sometimes what works
with one won't work with another, so it's worth trying everything you can
think of.
-L. : - 30 Jun 2004 08:16 GMT
> Help!  I have tried all the usual methods to keep my fearless feline
> off the kitchen counter and nothing is working.  She doesn't mind
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> has become "the final frontier".  I am on my last inch of rope but not
> ready to give up.  I would really love some new ideas!

Take the old fashioned mouse traps (wood/metal), set them, and
carefully place them upside-down on the counter tops.  Cover them with
3-4 layers of newspaper.  When kitty jumps up, they will snap and
scare the kitty and kitty won't jump up there again.

-L.
-L. : - 30 Jun 2004 08:16 GMT
> Help!  I have tried all the usual methods to keep my fearless feline
> off the kitchen counter and nothing is working.  She doesn't mind
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> has become "the final frontier".  I am on my last inch of rope but not
> ready to give up.  I would really love some new ideas!

Take the old fashioned mouse traps (wood/metal), set them, and
carefully place them upside-down on the counter tops.  Cover them with
3-4 layers of newspaper.  When kitty jumps up, they will snap and
scare the kitty and kitty won't jump up there again.

-L.
PawsForThought - 30 Jun 2004 13:31 GMT
>From: k26mats@hotmail.com  (Kath)

> I am on my last inch of rope but not
>ready to give up.  I would really love some new ideas!

Give up now and save yourself, LOL.  I tried everything possible to train my
cats off the counter.  But they would just go on it when I wasn't there.
Besides, my husband let them up there anyway, so any training I had done, went
right out the window.

Lauren
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Mary - 30 Jun 2004 15:48 GMT
> Help!  I have tried all the usual methods to keep my fearless feline
> off the kitchen counter and nothing is working.

Kath, I know this sounds overly simple, but I have had cats all my life,
growing up and as an adult. None of them jumped up on the kitchen counters
or anything else I didn't want them to, at least with any regularity. Maybe
they did and do when I'm not looking, but I never find any cat hairs in the
butter dish, or any overt signs, so its fine with me. All I do is yell "NO"
at them when they first get up on anything I don't want them to. I am
consistent and do it every time, and my intent is to startle them. My
husband does it too. No more problem. It is hard to believe it would work
for us with several cats and not for you. The "NO" has to be strong and
loud, and you have to take a step toward them like your're going to get
them. A wispy, wimpy "no" will not work. Good luck.
Priscilla H Ballou - 30 Jun 2004 17:50 GMT
Kath <k26mats@hotmail.com> quoth:
>Help!  I have tried all the usual methods to keep my fearless feline
>off the kitchen counter and nothing is working.  She doesn't mind
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>has become "the final frontier".  I am on my last inch of rope but not
>ready to give up.  I would really love some new ideas!

Scat mat?

Priscilla
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Veronica - 30 Jun 2004 20:44 GMT
> Kath <k26mats@hotmail.com> quoth:
> >Help!  I have tried all the usual methods to keep my fearless feline
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Scat mat?

Tin foil on top. They hate that.

I found a loud HISSSSS! and a firm 'NO!' with hand in 'stop' position worked
after a time.
Now a gentle no and the hand is enough.
Took some hisssing, though.

V
Wendy - 30 Jun 2004 23:37 GMT
> > Kath <k26mats@hotmail.com> quoth:
> > >Help!  I have tried all the usual methods to keep my fearless feline
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> V

I tried tin foil on my headboard. Boots snatched it off and drug it all over
the house. When he was done he jumped back on the headboard, knocked off a
few knick knacks, curled up and went to sleep. He is the most incorrigible
cat I've ever had. I'd probably find him swinging from the ceiling fan if he
could figure a way up there. Now the girls are true ladies and don't do
tables or counter tops.

W
Veronica - 01 Jul 2004 09:12 GMT
> > > Kath <k26mats@hotmail.com> quoth:
............
That one area I do not want her to go and it
> > > >has become "the final frontier".  I am on my last inch of rope but not
> > > >ready to give up.  I would really love some new ideas!
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> I tried tin foil on my headboard. Boots snatched it off and drug it all over
> the house.

8)) <giggle> So much for the book experts!!! I have never tried it myself.

When he was done he jumped back on the headboard, knocked off a
> few knick knacks, curled up and went to sleep. He is the most incorrigible
> cat I've ever had. I'd probably find him swinging from the ceiling fan if he
> could figure a way up there. Now the girls are true ladies and don't do
> tables or counter tops.

It is amazing. I have been told  that the worst of all for sheer perversity
are Burmese but one owner added: 'but he only does it get attention.'
That creased me up. The cat just sat three inches from my nose and yelled at
me because I was 'ignoring' him.
My, but he was a beautiful cat. Coat like rich mahogany. <sigh...>

V.
Laura R. - 01 Jul 2004 17:51 GMT
circa Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:12:41 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Veronica (marrowjam@wildblueyonder.co.uk) said,
> It is amazing. I have been told  that the worst of all for sheer perversity
> are Burmese but one owner added: 'but he only does it get attention.'
> That creased me up. The cat just sat three inches from my nose and yelled at
> me because I was 'ignoring' him.
> My, but he was a beautiful cat. Coat like rich mahogany. <sigh...>

Yes, why would cats bother such elaborate things to get attention
when all they have to do to get it is to walk up to the owner and
head-butt him/her a few times, I wonder?

Laura
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Veronica - 01 Jul 2004 18:03 GMT
> circa Thu, 01 Jul 2004 08:12:41 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
> Veronica (marrowjam@wildblueyonder.co.uk) said,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> when all they have to do to get it is to walk up to the owner and
> head-butt him/her a few times, I wonder?

I was visiting this place. My mother had warned me. 'Ignore the cat' she
told me.
I did. It said hello. It did the weaving round the ankles bit. It jumped up
on the arm of the chair and stared at me. Then it jumped on the counter top,
walked straight over the books and all, sat down and bellowed.
I had to give up.
It then gave a disgraceful display of tummy, leg waving, paw stretching,
purr like a two-stroke engine on full throttle.
Then, having been told how beautiful it was it returned to lurk in the
window waiting for its next vitim.

I have met many cats who are pleased to receive attention, but that animal
was a real hog.
DaftCat is also rather too prone to flash his tummy at any passing mug. Even
toddlers.
Stupid animal.

V.
Laura R. - 01 Jul 2004 21:16 GMT
circa Thu, 01 Jul 2004 17:03:09 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Veronica (marrowjam@wildblueyonder.co.uk) said,

> > Yes, why would cats bother such elaborate things to get attention
> > when all they have to do to get it is to walk up to the owner and
> > head-butt him/her a few times, I wonder?
> >
> I was visiting this place. My mother had warned me. 'Ignore the cat' she
> told me.

Well, there's the first mistake...

Laura
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MadHatter - 01 Jul 2004 18:04 GMT
>> I tried tin foil on my headboard. Boots snatched it off and drug it all
>over
>> the house.
>
>8)) <giggle> So much for the book experts!!! I have never tried it myself.

tin foil?  that's just an invitation to do something terrible!  it's
shiny and it makes noise.

>When he was done he jumped back on the headboard, knocked off a
>> few knick knacks, curled up and went to sleep. He is the most incorrigible
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>V.

beautiful cats know that they will be forgiven, i am convinced.  Murka
is gorgeous and when she wants attention, she jumps on top of
furniture and knocks things off.  it's not just attention, it s when
she wants to be let out.  she also growls and hits.  the other
abominable things she does, i just can't explain.  we have this 2 ft
tall plant stand with a leafy plant on it.  it's not all that stable.
one day she sat in front of it, carefully measured the whatever they
measure for jumps, and landed right on top of the plant pot, in the
plant.  she doesn't like to sit on shaky things!  another time, she
did pretty much the same with a large salad bowl and when my mom
approached her, she started eating the leaves!

-L
 
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